How long could Europe hold against Russia without US support?
>>59992482
Indefinitely. US army cannot even fight Vietnamese farmers and Gook farmers.
>>59992533
This 2bh
>>59992533
Neither could the French. Brits got their asses handed to them in Afghanistan before it was cool. Name a quagmire the US is in that Europeans haven't been in.
>>59992533
>>59992482
About 10 days
>>59992533
US beat those farmers into submission to the point where they signed a peace treaty and re-invaded years after the Americans lost.
Well, UK and France both have nukes and most others share them under NATO so what kind of war are you talking about?
There wouldn't be any full scale conflict because otherwise the nukes would fly and even on a small scale that would make the war pointless.
>>59992606
>>59992533
You win. I subconsciously wrote lost instead of left.
I never understood this Europe vs Russia fear we have. If Europe was forced to unite and militarize against Europe, they would probably annihilate the Russians. It's only when Europe is divided and fighting each other is when Russia becomes a serious threat.
>>59992533
1) Fighting guerillas =/= fighting another modern army
2) You fought alongside us in Vietnam
>>59992642
fuck, this is supposed to say "unite and militarize against Russia"
Long. Even Italy has a bigger economy and the combined forces of the major euro military powers would be more than enough.
>>59992626
They don't have the balls to use nukes. Also, you know what happens when you nuke Russia? They nuke you back. Except they have a lot more and better means to deliver them.
>>59992642
You don't "militarize" overnight. European militaries are laughable right now and they won't change that within a week.
>>59992725
I imagine it would be a lot like the Germans invading the USSR. Massive initial push by the Russians, but Europe would probably have enough time to get it together and launch an overwhelming counterattack. I understand that militarization takes time, but let's not underestimate Europe's ability to go from 0 to suicidal warmongering fuckface at the drop of a hat
>>59992763
This is not the Europe of olden days, where they have pride in their countries. Half of Europeans are mudshits who will be happy so long as Russians buy their kebabs. The other half are gay transgender hippies who would welcome the Russians with open arms for finally destroying ancient oppresive colonialism countries. So long as they are being cucked they are happy.
>>59992725
UK definitely does if it was seriously threatened. And that is still part of my point, what would Russia have to gain from a nuked country?
>>59992482
Not sure how the Balkans would react, but the Russians could probably push to the France-Germany border before being stopped. France, Italy, and UK would bomb the shit out of them and then they'd just push them back
>>59992814
American post/10. Memed extremely well.
>>59992482
Nigger pls. Finland could do it alone.
poland will stop the fucking commies single handedly again.
>>59992863
Ofc, you could. And lose your clay in the end again.
>>59992885
someone pls post the pic of russian grills posting on /int/ and acting cute, then a pole comes in and demands to know why the soviets stabbed them in the back
>>59992628
>>59992666
Deep down, Americans know they never won a war.
Only thing that can beat Su-35 is F-22 and Europeans don't have one.
>>59992814
who knows what they'll become once we stop coddling them. they'll probably return to their murderous, genocidal ways if history has anything to say. It's sort of cool to think we pacified the European savages though with our culture and fast food
>>59992938
Has Australia ever won one
>>59992565
This.
Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, all these places.
Euros were first. We just didn't learn from their mistakes.
>>59992972
Never and it is irrelevant anyway because we're not the ones that are banging our chest in provocation.
>>59992938
That's why we took Texas from the Mexishits, and Guam and Puerto Rico don't fly the Spanish flag. US doesn't pay taxes towards the crown and to this day the US still occupies Japan.
>>59992972
well, they sort of won the pacific war, even if it was with us
>>59993002
>implying we are ever the provocateurs
>>59993002
You can't pound your chest when your the wimpy nerd of the Anglo nation. Your that guy that waits for the main fight to be over and come and kick the loser in the ribs as he is laying on the ground.
>>59992628
>>59993007
>Ausfailian participation in the Pacific theater
LMAO
>>59992533
This
>>59993084
Not even him, but they did
>>59993122
I know
ALL of Europe ?
Europe wins.
Poland + France + UK > Russian Military.
Then add the other countries, Italy, Greece and Germany have a good army.
If Turkey = Europe, then Russia has even less chance.
If you add in nukes then it's mutually assured destruction.
>Hold against
We'd beat them.
>>59992907
I didn't say that we were good at politics.
>>59993350
There's no "beating" Russia.
>>59993435
Of course there is, kill enough of them until the surviving ones start a Revolution against their government and are forced to abandon a bunch of stuff to avoid getting even more rek'd. Take Kaliningrad that way, Crimea too.
>>59993435
>he says to a Brit
Crimean War ring a bell?
>>59993350
Depends entirely if France would want to fight, really.
>>59993478
Revolution wasn't about losses.
>>59993503
Brits were fucking useless in Crimean War. In fact if they weren't there, Russia would've lost quicker, since Brits were just jeopardizing the war effort.
>>59993311
What's so great about the Polish military?
>>59993478
>>59993503
>what are nuclear weapons
Are you guys this fucking retarded?
And do you even know what tenses are American? Why would them beating Russia in 1844 have anything to do with 2016?
>>59993547
You have a point. But if war breaks out against Europe and Putin keeps on sending you to war against everyone else, and people keep dying and taxes are raised to feed the war machine. Wouldn't he face a bunch of revolts of people wanting out ?
We are in the 21st century, invasion of Russia is possible and easier than before.
Kaliningrad could get blitzkrieged by Poland.
>>59993552
Absolutely nothing but butthurt fueled angst.
Honestly might be the key to victory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpH5L8zCtSk
F
>>59992533
This. In fact Europe will gradually grow even more strong and shake off the American yoke.
>>59993581
Umm yeah sure, enjoy ballistic missile rain, mr. armchair general, sir.
>>59993581
>You have a point. But if war breaks out against Europe and Putin keeps on sending you to war against everyone else, and people keep dying and taxes are raised to feed the war machine. Wouldn't he face a bunch of revolts of people wanting out ?
No lmao.
>We are in the 21st century, invasion of Russia is possible and easier than before.
No. Not at all. Russia is far better armed and prepared than it was the last 4 times anyways.
>Kaliningrad could get blitzkrieged by Poland.
And Poland would likely get beat by the Russian forces in the Kalingrad. If not, they would get nuked.
>>59992954
Or a rafale, typhoon, and a f-15
>>59993552
They, along with Greece, Estonia and I think the UK, are the only ones (with US) spending over 2% GDP on military (NATO) they've been getting more and more modern stuff, when the Crimea stuff happened they started increasing army size.
And I'm pretty sure they are like the second or third NATO country with the most troops committed in the Middle East. Polish military could beat most of Europe, Germany included.
>>59993567
>>59993616
See post up there, mutually assured destruction, we are talking nuke less war, because were is the fun in nukes.
France and the UK are number 3 and 4, respectively, on quantity of nukes, the Netherlands have some and there is anti nuke tech on Eastern Europe, courtesy of the USA.
>ITT: The entire Europe is being gauged in a middleman war between USA and Russia
I would kill myself if my country was this insignificant that it was just a mere buffer between two superpowers.
>>59993641
>Rafale
Shit
>Typhoon
Shit
>F-15
Maybe
>>59993567
>Why would them beating Russia in 1844 have anything to do with 2016?
That's not what we're talking about, you said that Russia cannot be beaten even though it was
For a more recent example, just look at the Mujahideen in the 1980's when the USSR's military was actually mobilized and they were still beaten. Russia's not invincible just because of "muh winter"
>what are nuclear weapons
These thread are circlejerks where it's assumed that it won't devolve into nuclear war. If nuclear war were an option, there would be no winner and there wouldn't be a point in having the thread
>>59992938
>Deep down, Americans know they never won a war.
Deep down we know we ended the Japanese, USSR, and Spanish empires nigel
>>59993671
And it's still nothing. Greece? Joke! Estonia? speed bump for Putin.
The only ones in Europe worth a damn are the British and everyone here knows it.
>>59993727
France military > Britbong.
Are we including Turkey in the mix ?
I think we should, NATO and all.
>>59993754
>French military better than British
My sides are in orbit.
Argentina isn't one to talk either.
>Are we including Turkey in the mix ?
I said Europe you fucking beaner.
>>59993695
How is the rafale shit
>>59993677
It is. Canada and Mexico are the real superpowers
>>59993798
French military is better than Brit tho. Look up all recent wars where two of them participated - other than ww2, Brits were riding on French success.
Also, Russia+ China could beat Europe easily.
>>59993831
It's shit because he's a faggot that likes to post about things he knows nothing about
>>59993865
I laughed
Eastern Europe would collapse in a matter of days, Germany and France can hold out for a month or so if they entrenched.
Russia has a little over 30 times the number of tanks, 4-5 times the amount of jets and three to four times the number of active service members. The number of russian spetznaz paratroopers is about a third the size of Germany's entire army. Not to forget, Russians also outclass the German and French military industries and field better equipment.
A naval war might be a bit fairer though.
>>59993866
Where were the French when the Brits kicked the Argies out of their clay?
>>59993831
If it's so good how come no one wants it
>>59992938
Neither has australia mate
t. emu nation-boo
>>59993942
The French and Egyptians use them
