Invited: Turks, Arabs, Farsi people, Jews; North Africans are also welcomed
gotta love eating bacon and drinking wine while fucking a man with my uncircumcised penis during ramadan while doodling muhammed
>>59966870
You can do the same thing in turkey -except the penis thing.
>>59966776
Absolutely Haram
Die you kaffir scum
why are turks so ugly?
>>59966934
>>59966977
bc they are turcs
Are there many secular people in the Middle East? I mean they're still a minority in the West, but in the Islamic world? Man that's gotta be rough.
>>59966977
There are ugly people in every nation.
>>59966776
irtidad uprising soon brothers
im jew. haha so how does it feel beoin an atheist? or how does the fairytale of gettin 72 virgins in your afterlife feel? islam is fucked up.
>>59966934
This
Turkey seems like a relatively chill place for non-muslims. Is it fine or do you still need to look out for discrimination?
>>59967019
I don't know the situation in Middle East, but we have secular people in yellow and orange zone.
>>59967080
Not in the zones i mentioned. I mean, we have internet muslims, but that's not a big problem. But, people still scare to explain their real feels about religion.
>>59966776
Out of interest.
If pic related got caught as an atheist, he'd die right?
>>59967202
Muslims would fuck his corpse.
>>59967019
My mother has been telling me about how her friends are sturggling with their sons abandoning Islam
She has no idea I'm an ex-Muslim as well because I still practise Islam normally like I always did, I'm probably never going to change that and live my entire life as a Muslim
It seems like it's a spreading problem..
>>59966776
>>59966890
>>59967025
>>59967044
>>59967142
FUCKING MURTADEEN GO BE DEGENRATE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
what muslim cunt has the most fedoras
>>59967257
waddup nignig
>>59967202
Sure
>>59966934
die you fucking infidel. go and jerk off. i fucking hate your influence on moderate muslims in europe. what do you want, a cheeseburger or your fucking head sliced? welcome to the new europe you fucking degenrate piece of shit. im jewish btw.
>>59967248
So you essentially just pay lip service/pretend to be Muslim for other people's sakes then? Also why do you consider it a problem?
>>59966776
Holy shit, is that how Kaaba look now? Damn that's ugly, Saudi what are you doing
>>59967248
>I'm probably never going to change that and live my entire life as a Muslim
I guess if you went to some more secular country you could relax a bit on that.
Say, is it true that around 25% or even more of average muslims hold views that can be considered radical?
>>59967248
Wait, if you still practice Islam then it still makes you a muslim
>>59967248
>My mother has been telling me about how her friends are sturggling with their sons abandoning Islam
how is this possible in the middle east
>>59967665
Middle East would be secular if USA didn't fuck it up
>>59967739
yes saudi arabia funding wahhabism has nothing to do with it ok
>>59966776
*Tips fedora*
Will we ever avenge our curry rapist bros?
http://thediplomat.com/2016/04/another-secular-blogger-murdered-in-bangladesh/
I want to live in world of smiles!
>>59967759
Guess who's sucking Saudi's cock :')
>>59967248
I used to think like that a year ago but thought why force myself into a religion I don't agree with restrictive and hateful towards other beans
just ffs dont pretand being someone that you're not bee yourself
You do realize that Atheism is a religion.
>>59967848
>UMNO dog pls
Mat pham.
>>59967816
me ;)))
>>59966776
>>59967879
Where's our book, goi?
>>59967896
I'm not Malaysian Indon-kun
>>59967848
If he declares he's an atheist in Jordan, he probably won't survive.
>>59967879
I do. Atheism is a belief juts tlike theism. I'm not an Atheist myself, I just used that word because "Atheism" represents secular and irreligious (deist, panentheist or whatever) people in Middle East.
>>59967961
I'm sex tourist, pham.
>tfw agnostic mustard race
feels good famalam
>>59967976
>>59967248
>>59967848
Just for the sake of research before you lads became MURTADEEN were you sunni or shia.
>>59968045
I was Muslim but not that into religion.
>>59968045
Also any extra specifics about why you became atheists would be very welcome.
>>59967947
Here is a bunch of over 9000.
>>59967976
Then just use nonreligious/irreligious instead. Using a known mistake only makes it harder to fix.
>>59967879
im dyin to k now but are the sefardi jews in Israel bigger in numbers then the azhkenazi jews?
>>59967879
Yeah and my favourite hobby is to not collect stamps.
>>59968045
Sunni
>>59968126
>Dick Dawkins
Sorry, i m a feminist, so I can't read his cis-male white trash.
>>59968126
You're right, my mistake.
>>59968114
It just doesn't make sense, dude. As I said earlier, I'm not atheist but I'm not Muslim either. Islam is unnecessarily strict, it prevents people from researching and questioning. Tasawwuf is a bit okay (it's more spiritual and it encourages reasoning), but traditional Sunni Islam with retarded hadiths? No thanks.
>>59968237
That's a huge philosophic/probability gap between:
a. Having a hobby of not collecting stamps (hobbies>0%)
b. No hobbies (hobbies=0%)
Well I'm not an atheist or non-muslim, but I don't feel like I really believe Islam either and I dislike sharia, what am I? I'm currently confused about my own faith
>>59968114
Idk I was hit by a fedora out of nowhere
revelations loomed at me and made my eyes open to reality
>>59968479
>a secularist
>agnostic
>cultural muslim
One of these
FYI, some American Jews have already invented a clever religious stream of questioning
the existence of god,
while not having to be part of the Atheist religion,
and still being able to
celebrate all Jewish holidays:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstructionist_Judaism
the question is. do you muslims belive in 72 virgins in your afterlife?
>>59968479
You're beginning to see through the layer of propaganda you've been subjected to throughout your life. Once you start to see how much of it doesn't make sense the whole thing starts to crumble
>>59968578
Some of them actually do :D
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/1387874/15-girls-die-as-zealots-drive-them-into-blaze.html
just a prank bro LMAO
>>59967879
Atheism isn't a religion. Neither is theism really. They're religious positions
>>59968533
Allah being the one true god is acceptable, but I doubt the more fantasy-like sories of Quran are true
And I still agree with common muslims in some things like girl's virginity, gays, and how woman should behave
>>59968660
Idk, I've been like this since I was 16 and I think I stopped at this point
>>59968698
so you, who is from turkey that is a muslim country doesnt care about your afterlife? the question is towards you too. and not armenia.
>>59968758
If there's so much of the Quran you believe to be not true, why believe any of it at all?
>>59968568
>>59968751
All Atheists have a believe regarding a divine being (not existing)
Yet many Atheists do tend to preach to people of other religions to convert to Atheism.
>>59968758
Cultural Islam, I guess.
>>59968806
I'm the OP, who is irreligious.
>>59968487
>>59968350
>>59968291
Hmm as i thought,i used to be a sunni aswell and i almost went fedora due to the amount of retarded shit that made no sense like dogs being dirty,music being haram,gays getting instantly beheaded etc,i almost went fedora until i came across this website some japanese guy linked me and found out that all of the trash that infests modern islam is sunni hadiths with their autistic extremist gimmicks (aka wahabism) so i became a quranist and suddenly things actually make sense now.
Thanks for the responds lads this is the website if anyone's curious.
http://submission.org/misconceptions.html
>>59967494
Yeah, I don't really mind doing it though
I don't consider it a problem but the general population does
>>59967561
Define "radical"
For instance most people here support killing homosexuals, apostates etc. because these things do exist in Quran and hadith but the majority here are also strongly against all these terrorist attacks in Europe
>>59967581
Whatevs
>>59967665
The country is pretty secular compared to other ones in the M.E., but the people generally aren't
You aren't breaking any law by being an atheist in Jordan, but the average Jordanian person would want you dead so it's better to stay closeted
>>59967848
Honestly it's just because I want to save face for my family
I can't just bee myself
>>59968947
no, you have a religion if you doesnt understand. everyone does.
>>59968045
Sunni
My parents are also salfists
It sucks
>>59968947
and you have muslim and your 72 virgins. deal with it. i have a jewish soul.
>>59968813
First of all, I don't really know what's the truth, I've never died before so I don't know what's afterlife like, I guess it's better be safe (tho I rarely pray)
I just feel magical stories illogical, but I don't think the idea of Allah is illogical at all and it's the main idea of Quran
And as I stated before, I agree with common muslims in some things, maybe manny or most things, except sharia and violence
>>59968899
I guess so, good thing my friends still consider me as muslim when I talk about this to them
>>59969037
I'm completely agnostic about afterlife.
>>59969108
wat
>>59969159
im a swedish jew.
>>59969149
If there is a god, do you think he has the same beliefs as you about girl's virginity, gays, and how woman should behave?
>>59969222
What is a Muslim soul and how can I get rid of it?
>>59968022
My brother :^)
>>59968751
Quite. All religions have tenets. Atheism/agnosticism/Gnosticism (which is a meme)/theism have no tenets and are not religions.
>>59967248
>It seems like it's a spreading problem..
Why do you think this is happening? Better education? More exposure to non-muslim world through internet? Or something else
>>59969319
Definetly internet.
>>59967080
They've been criticized for not protecting or condoning attacks on their Christian minority. I know a few killings on priest took place with one getting decapitated.
>>59966870
>uncircumcised penis
>flag
you master ruseman
>>59969259
I don't know, but I don't have any problem if does, he's the god after all
>>59969385
I didn't hear such thing, but at least 5% of the population are isis-level extremist Muslims.8243
>Here is the actual meaning of life by a Jew:
To have offspring and secure your future lineage for as long as could be.
>>59969571
I accidentally typed 8243.
>>59967879
>bald is a hairstyle
>His cunt doesn't have freedom of religion
>>59969642
>morocco
>highest muslim percentage
>freedom
>>59969684
And yet we still have freedumb of religion
>>59969319
Yeah, it is because of the internet
A lot of people also think that they're just doing it for fashion statement and they're actually still Muslims at heart who just want to attention whore/are too lazy to practise the religion
>>59969632
bald is a hairstyle.
>not styling your hair is the exception.
just like atheism (believing that god doesn't exist) is a religion.
not believing in anything is the actual exception.
>>59969744
that's bcuz you gave borders with Spain, also your children run away to France and become Minister of Education there.
>>59967142
Wait what about the area where Istanbul is? Wouldn't that be more secular considering it has the biggest city and its proximity to Europe? Also I thought the black sea coast would be less religious as i head it was whiter and most developed.
>>59969812
have*
>>59969834
Istanbul and Europe Zone(cities that are located in the west of istanbul) are secular too. People living in Black Sea coast are more nationalist than religious, but still, they're not (usually) secular (except the leftist groups located there).
>>59969777
In my experience, the ones who lazy to practice their religion are usually the most durkas and be the first who'll go crazy when someone insults Islam
The ones who look into their religion are generally calmer
>>59969812
That's quite retarded post
And no, having borders with a cunt doesn't meanit influences you
Sweden is ultra-cvck, meanwhile Finland is one the last bastion of white supremacy along Polska and Russia
And if anything, we influenced spain more than it influenced us
And ffs, it's not a new secular thing in here, jews lived here for milennia unharmed and in harmony with mudslime for quite a while, there are as many Maroc diaspora in France as in Israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moroccans
>>59969572
How much,pimpdaddy?
>>59970008
>In my experience, the ones who lazy to practice their religion are usually the most durkas and be the first who'll go crazy when someone insults Islam
Ha that happens here as well
There are so many young guys who would curse god whenever they're angry and yet still chimp out when they find out somebody has left Islam, it's hilarious
>>59970055
Unlike Saudi Arabia, we have freedom of religion here too. It's the goverment that makes minorities' life worse gere, not the people. We have very open-minded people here.
>>59970203
Same here in Turkey lol. Most teenagers are being atheist to be edgy (i'm the OP btw), butg still we have intelligent teenagers here who actually knows what philosophy and reasoning means.
>>59970234
Yeah I know
>father fought against the Soviets in Afghanistan
>is now rabidly anti-Islam and anti-religion in general
who /lmao/ here?
>>59970356
>people fought against soviets long time ago
>so everyone has to choose their religion
>>59970466
???
?
?
?
>>59970203
>>59970319
Does this means ISIS aren't real muslims meme is true?
>>59970356
I'm not anti-Islam nor anti-religion, I just think people should believe anything they want
>>59970466
sorry, my bad. i misunderstood your comment desu.
>>59970573
Only Muslims can answer this question.
>>59970564
>sorry, my bad. i misunderstood your comment desu.
I also tagged myself by mistake.
>>59970466
>>59970694
>>59970738
Now this is some hardcore shitposting
Fresh from /b/ I presume
hadiths are cancer
>>59970800
i made typos repeadetly, my bad.
>>59970884
That and you post rather fast and make lots of mistakes
>>59970356
stop lying pashtun ghol
>>59970573
Anybody who identifies as a Muslim is a real Muslim
Just because some Muslims have different views than the vast majority doesn't make them any less real
ISIS are extrems salfist Muslims and they do follow quran and hadith word by word
They're not making anything up
>>59970978
>Tajik monkey
Off yourself
>>59968852
Religion is the positive belief in a divine being.
Atheism is the lack of a positive belief in a divine being.
Atheism is as much a religion as shooting someone in the face is saving his life.
Atheists try to convert people away from all religions and all gods, theists try to convert people away from all gods but their own.
>>59969798
Not believing in anything
God is included in anything
A (without) theism (belief in god)
One of my Turkish friends said that even the most conservative Turks living in the east of Turkey aren't as radical as arabs. Is that true?
>>59973683
No. There are ISIS-lovers are in Turkey too, but they aren't more than 1/500 of the population. There are lots of internet militants though.
>>59967257
>MURTADEEN
what the fuck is murtadeen google returns no results for stupid languages
>>59973870
>murtad
>queen
top zozzle
>>59967248
I'm the same as you friend. I don't follow the rituals closely, never pray and only pretend to pray for juma while I go hang out somewhere. But for the sake of keeping peace with others I just pretend to be a muslim.
>>59973870
Apostates
>>59974644
>>59973870
I was wrong, murtadeen IS a real world. Are you sure you used google?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=murtadeen
>>59969028
>For instance most people here support killing homosexuals, apostates etc
Yeah, that's as radical as it gets.
Damn, i'd like to be understanding, but if those things aren't reformed islam definitely doesn't deserve a place in the western world.
>>59967407
>im jewish btw
t. mohammed ibn omar al waleed
>>59967248
This is why I hate Muslims. You're not a muslim so have the fucking balls to fully not be a Muslim you god damn pussy
>>59968211
If you go by country the most Jews come from Russia but if you go by white or middle eastern then most Jews here are middle eastern. Like there's 1 million Russians and 800000 Moroccans but when you add the Tunisians, Algerians, etc the majority are mizrahim
>>59975051
There is such a thing that I care for my family and don't want to put them down or have them disappointed in me, especially my mother.
>>59975220
>There is such a thing that I care for my family and don't want to put them down or have them disappointed in me, especially my mother.
How about you care for your country and do the right thing? Your parents need to learn to question themselves and they need to learn to trust you.
>muslims
>europe
CHOOSE ONE MUDSLIMES
>>59975628
KEK
>>59975628
>>59975674
samefag
>>59975710
Nope
>>59975710
not at all faggot
people live in my country
>>59967285
germany
>>59968578
it's not even in the koran, it's in one of those extra things like the book of mormon
>>59975515
I'm also a non-muslim born to Muslim parents. My parents are the most liberal Muslims you can see, they drink alcohol, wearing a hijab is not even something they'd consider, they dress and act modern etc.
And yet when they found a fucking bible in my room they were REALLY upset. My parents would probably stop paying my college tuition fee and what not if they found out. It's not easy being an ex-Muslim, I live my life like any other Westerner but I have to call myself a Muslim in front of my parents because otherwise I'll be screwing myself over. And also because I genuinely don't want them to be upset. Religion is a deeply rooted thing for even the most liberal Muslims (mostly anyway) and it's not something you can debate them about. They won't understand you. They are incapable of understanding, they have been hearing the same shit ever since they were born, they are essentially brainwashed.
>>59975628
>>59975674
>>59975753
>>59975759
too rare to be differentfag
Reminder that ebin fedora murtads as found on /int/ and r*ddit are a tiny tiny minority, and that there are far more people becoming Muslims than there are people leaving Islam. And if anything, people are getting more and more religious. Suck it, pseudo-intellectual nerds.
>>59975937
Proof?
>>59967879
Yes and sleeping is a sport
>>59967879
>
agnosticism is the only true lack of religion because there's no such thing as a hardcore agnostic
>>59975845
If your parents drink alcohol, then they're simply not muslims. Perhaps your dad is a pseudo-muslim because muslim men have been drinking since the inception of the religion, but a drinking "muslim" women? No such thing.
>>59976093
Yeah? Are Christians who have sex before marriage also not Christians then? I could count you hundreds of things that Muslims and Christians do everyday that goes against their book. My parents let me drink alcohol too, they even found a bottle of vodka in my room and didn't care. My mom even tried spacecakes apparently when she was young lol. But trust me they are Muslims, they fast at Ramadan and pray often, they ask me to pray every now and then too.
>>59976191
>netherlands
>trying weed
checks out lads
>>59968852
>All Atheists have a believe regarding a divine being
No atheists have a lack of belief. It's the opposite.
>>59968852
>Yet many Atheists do tend to preach to people of other religions to convert to Atheism.
You can't convert to atheism because it's not a religion.
>>59975220
Ok I may have been a tad too edgy but shit that pisses me off. Fight for your freedom to now be Muslims. Either redpill your parents on shitslam or learn to live while disagreeing but if they can't then they're shitty people
How accurate is this picture?
>Proud to be atheist
That's so dumb
>>59969016
Do you believe Mohammad cut the moon in half and flew to Jerusalem on a horse with wings and a woman's head?
This thread is so shit. It has everything I hate about /int/. And can someone please gas that abrasive, obnoxious, straight-from-/pol/ Russian piece of shit, please.
>>59975937
Fuck off you backwards sand nigger, you'll be found with your head cut off by fellow Muslim if they saw your anime porn you hypocritical little faggot paki
>>59969016
Quranism is nice, we have a Quranism called Caner Taslaman here, he sometimes actually says reasonable things.
>>59976391
You are so shit. You're everything I hate about Muslims And can someone please gas that abrasive, obnoxious, straight-from-/Isis/ Paki piece of shit, please.
>>59969798
>not believing in anything
Does god not count as anything?
>tfw good friend became durka
>>59976303
True
>>59976663
Send him every violent Quran quote, testimonies from Ex Muslims, and videos how Muslims really are. Then show him pew forum poll of Muslims. That shows it's the religion that's evil and not a minority of people that follow it, once he sees that and fellow ex Muslims he'll either quit or kill you
>>59970055
>Sweden is ultra-cvck, meanwhile Finland is one the last bastion of white supremacy along Polska and Russia
?????
Why do jihadist fighters look so badass? Assad troops look like garbage when compared to warriors of Allah.
>>59976663
Buy him a flight to Brazil, he should be fine when he returns.
>>59971000
What about Ahmadiyya?
>>59976908
They only look badass when they're fully covered. Other wise they look like dirty homeless people with pubes on their faces
>>59976933
>Ahmadiyya
>Islam
Pick one.
>>59976511
fucking libyan jews
>>59976974
this
>>59977027
Lel I'm not Libyan I'm Russian son, but fuck all Muslims. When's your Isis draft date?
>>59976498
Quranist*
>>59966870
>uncircumcised
Must be nice!
>>59977155
You can always have a surgery.
>>59977314
Yeah I actually looked into that once but I rather get a nose job.
>>59976803
I actually did similar thing to my other friend (I showed him violent quotes and illogical parts of religion) and it partly worked(he stoped talking about namaz 24/7 and became much more secular and even fucked some prostitutes later) but this friend is just aggressivly religious and is in close relationships with chechens and lazgis who are also durka as fuck. I think I've lost him.
>>59976908
Kurtadeen are the best
>>59975937
>and that there are far more people becoming Muslims than there are people leaving Islam
not true btw. Muslims in Chad are having tonnes of kids, that's about it.
>>59975845
>leaving Islam
>converting to christianity
why?
but yeah, I understand. I wouldn't take risks if I lived in a crazy country like Jordan. I'd still try to make my parents understand though.
>>59977368
>Chechens
Dear God is over
Btw how are you the only Muslim cunt that's Israelis ally?
>>59976663
>tfw good friend became durka
Does he have some psychological problems?
>>59967879
dumb jew
>>59975925
>we finally have imported internet from europe.
>>59976908
Assadists look like slavs
>>59975979
His country
>>59977766
Mountain Jews are bro tier + plus our government tries to hold the image of tolerant and multicultural country.
OLA SENHORES MINHOS SOU ATEO TAMBEM
>>59978524
That pic looks like the intro to a gay porn movie.
>>59978524
Unmossadable warriors.
>>59966934
This
>>59966934
lol he mad
>>59977732
I didn't convert to Christianity though, I was just reading up different religions because I was in a confused state of mind regarding God and religion, it was during my teens of self exploration. I'd never in my life become a Christian, it's not much different than Islam.
>>59977077
t. amir bin yahood
>>59977155
i actually am circumcised, i was just shitposting
though i don't regret not needing to name the slime trapped under my skinflap desu
>>59979892
I could care less about smegma, unlike you I shower everyday.
>>59966776
(USER WAS BEHEADED FOR THIS POST)
>>59979892
I have gone like almost two weeks without a shower back when I was a neet and never had smegma desu. I fapped almost daily too.
>>59975051
you forget to change proxy schlomo
>>59975845
it baffles me when people who dont follow rules want to consider as one..why?
>>59978686
Some are, my grandpa is one actually, but Dagestani Jews are horrible here.
>>59979809
t. Muhammad al Muhammad
>>59981257
Are you a retarded turk roach or just handicap? I'm Israeli, we openly hate Muslim frequently. Not proxy needed, all those western flags hating you just hate you after dealing with your smelly savage kind. Now back in the palm tree monkey.
