https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCK2CgY3yTc
>>59964570
>Fox News
sensationalist, slanted news network
Not clicking on that
>>59964570
Socialism at its finest.
>>59964611
Hey I see you found us from Reddit! Hope you enjoy your stay buddy, make sure to blog about us on your tumblr.
>>59964666
Nice trips.
I think Venezuela is a shithole but what if this whole Latin American shift towards US friendly governments is really orchestrated by the US to fuck us over and benefit the jews?
I want to believe that we'll become more prosperous but what if history repeats itself and we get fucked again? Then we'd get another shitty populist government which will inevitably fail and be replaced with a neoliberal government which will fuck us over again and this cycle will go on ad infinitum.
I'm skeptic about the world in general so idk.
>>59964570
Are there any prosperous countries in South America?
>>59965247
No. Any country with a large portion of brown people is a shithole.
>>59964570
why are whites so fucking stupid
>>59965360
That explains why the UK is so shit
>>59965397
>Venezuela
>white
>>59964968
South America will never change and became developped because as long as they blame the US for anything commie always get support no matter how retarded and corrupt they are.
>>59965360
Ah, I see, that must be why Korea doesn't allow Thais and Viets to have any say in internal politics
>>59965553
I hope you're wrong, frogfriend.
I'm learning French so, if shit hits the fan, I'll probably be your nouveau voisin :^)
>>59965584
You're not white either.
>>59966277
Not brown as well
>>59965553
Tbh they've been under pro-US governments for almost their entire history and look where that's gotten them.
>>59965733
>his country is a shithole on the brink of civil war
>alright let's move to fucking france of all places
lmao why
if you were a jew in 1935 you'd be like alright let's leave poland and emigrate to germany
>>59966415
kek
>>59965402
Still salty cuz of Falklands War?
>>59964968
Liberalism is what made Chile what is Chile today. You may like it or not, but the Chicago boys are responsible for its development.
>>59966606
This. Numbers confirm.
Government intervention in the economy is the worst thing that can happen to a country. Just look at venezuela or Argentina.
KARL MARX GOOD BOY DINDU NUFIN
>>59966606
Neoliberalism and liberalism are different things. Neoliberalism is currently the cancer eating away at the middle class and eroding democracy the world over.
>>59966606
>The Chicago boys
Wtf are you talking about? They where pretty shitty
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/mar/03/chile-earthquake
>>59964968
>but what if this whole Latin American shift towards US friendly governments is really orchestrated by the US to fuck us over and benefit the jews?
t. Maduro
>>59967050
To be fair, if I was in CIA, I would play candy crush everyday.
>>59964968
Jews before reds
>>59966810
MILTON FREIDMAN DINDU NUFFIN HE JUS ABOUT TO GET HIS LIFE ON TRACK
>>59967104
>some people are getting richer
>everyone else is almost equal
sounds like communism to me
>>59967228
Ur a cheeky cunt I'll give ya that m8.
>>59966913
>Neoliberalism and liberalism are different things
Please explain.
>>59966917
>the Guardian
>openly defends PT in Brazil
Top kek. Even a moderate sources would defend the major role that liberals had in Chile's development.
>>59967228
I don't know why, but in the first second after seeing that flag I thought you were some southern American country.
>>59967228
damn son
>>59967104
>the countries where those 62 people live are by far the most desirable places to live in the world
>but they have TOO MUCH MONEY so that makes them BAD
Commies are dumb.
>In a note to the CIA, advising them on how to undermine the Allende government, Henry Kissinger wrote succinctly: ‘Make the economy scream’. Former us officials are openly admitting today that the same strategy is applied in Venezuela: former us Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger said of the Venezuelan economy on Fox News: ‘It’s the one weapon we have against [Chavez] to begin with, and which we should be using, namely the economic tools of trying to make the economy even worse, so that his appeal in the country and the region goes down’.
>>59967446
Neoliberalism is a subset of liberalism. Liberalism is just the generic term for liberal democracy, but within such a society there's room for social democracy, Keynesianism, libertarianism, and all sorts of subsets of liberal capitalism.
Neoliberalism is characterized by extreme right wing economic policies leading to inequality and poverty and internationalism expressed through free trade deals that erode sovereignty.
Liberalism is fine because it's open to more sane policies, neoliberalism is right wing nonsense invented by international plutocrats to destroy democracy and inflate ther profits.
>>59967104
Old answer for the same question.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnOGaQX04Cs
I ain't taking no fucking refugees.
>>59967562
You realize that this amount of wealth concentrated in the hands of so few is not only extremely destructive to economies according the IMF, but is a serious threat to freedom and democracy right? Power corrupts anon, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
>>59967634
>Liberalism is just the generic term for liberal democracy
Lol are you really trying to conflate liberalism with democracy?
>>59967776
"Liberal democracy" as in western polyarchy yes.
>>59964570
>fox news
good goy.
>>59967767
The IMF itself is destructive to economies and a serious threat to freedom and democracy.
>>59967634
You are talking about consequences, not policies/ideals. It is like saying that X -> poverty, Y -> wealth and therefore I prefer Y.
I would rather prefer to have the diferences in policies between X and Y.
Regarding policies I align a lot with Friedman's ideas, including less "libertarian ones" such as the negative income tax. Am I a liberal or a neoliberal?
>>59967877
Exactly, and even they admit that trickle down economics is complete bullshit.
>>59967710
Is Colombia going to build a wall?
>>59967228
I know you're being sarcastic, but sadly this is how communism works in practice
>>59967710
Build a wall. Make Colombia great again (thoigh its pretty good right now)
>>59967877
How so? What does IMF do?
>>59967888
>Regarding policies I align a lot with Friedman's ideas, including less "libertarian ones" such as the negative income tax. Am I a liberal or a neoliberal?
Don't know, I don't know enough about Friedman's ideas apart from his pro-market stance. But neoliberalism is generally associated (at least in my mind) specifically with the deregulation of the economy, the hollowing out of social programs, and support for free trade.
on the plus side it'll be easier to get a brown gf
>>59967960
>(thoigh its pretty good right now)
Funny thing is, if you are a kid your chances of not starving are better in Venezuela (or ecuador actually).
>>59967925
Things likely would have turned out differently if there had actually been democratic mechanisms in place to ensure that the state was responsive to the interests of the people. After all, it's much easier to fight corruption when you can just vote comrade Breshnev out of office.
Leader of this country is an idiot. He declared 2-day workweek to save electricity. His decisions are literally killing the country. Maybe NATO could remove him and install there somebody with brain to help these poor people.
>>59967710
Too late Daniel. There are already 600k venezuelans taking our jobs. Just last week I went to a job interview, we were 15 candidates and 2 of them were venezuelans.
One of them got the job and there were only 3 job openings.
>>59968017
>deregulation of the economy, the hollowing out of social programs, and support for free trade.
I agree with all these policies. However I would prefer a "unified" and efficient social program like the negative income tax rather than no program.
>>59967964
It's a gathering dominated by the world's richest nations that essentially engineers favourable economic conditions for themselves and bullies everybody else into accepting it. They often use debt as a weapon, getting countries to sign unfair deals and when they inevitably default on their loans the IMF swoops in and basically reposses their country and tells them how they can and can't run it.
Doesn't sound very democratic to me.
>>59968103
Your child poverty rate is higher than Venezuela?
>>59968244
>I agree with all these policies.
These policies have caused unprecedented income inequality, the hollowing out of demosestic manufacturing leading to the severe decline in both the number and quality of jobs, the destruction of the middle class, and the increased political power of multinational corporations and plutocrats at the expense of democratically elected governments.
>>59968274
COMMIE GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEe
>>59968172
>600k
to much RCN for you.
>>59968274
way higher, our inequality is worse, in some cities getting gas is a fucking problem. But you wont see that on CNN.
>>59968166
They could always use black magic to bring Chavez back.
>>59964719
Kek
>>59968362
Wasn't Chavez a president of Venezuela when oil price was around 120 dollar per barrel? I think that it was easier for this country to prosper with huge stream of petrodollars
>>59968320
The history is crystal clear. No country has become developed without large amount of free trade/markets.
Also, about inequality, old bud goldie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg
>>59965402
Fucking rekt
>>59967500
It's the colors senpai. You look like a vertical Colombia desu.
>>59968249
The IMF is just a glorified mafia. Thanks for detailed explanation bud.
>>59968341
H-he'll be gone next year....
>>59968360
Oh shit i didnt knew that. At least theres not as much cartel violence as before (i hope im not wrong on that).
>>59968360
Dude I live in Bogota and see venezuelans on a daily basis. I just can't imagine how it might be in Bucaramanga, Cucuta and other cities closer to the border.
>>59968274
There's more inquality over here than in venezuela but the poverty rate is way lower. Child starvation is an issue especially in Choco and Guajira departments, more specifically among indigenous tribes as they expect the goverment to give them everything and won't move a finger to find a job or get food.
>>59968362
They would rather use black magic to bring the oil prices back.
>>59968444
Yes, on top of that oil exports represent 96% of their revenue. They're one of the least diversified countries on earth.
>>59968458
You can keep posting Maggie all you want but the thing is that top economists (even those working for the IMF) recognize the danger of destroying the middle class. Who is going to buy all those products if nobody can afford them?
Free markets may be fine for developing countries but in developed countries your consumer base has to be firmly consolidated. You do that with social programs, sensible regulation, strong unions to keep wages high, and strong barriers in place to keep big money out of politics.
>>59968444
It was the oil that gave the dipshit the confidence to get the country into his commie shenanigans.
The problems came from way before, but shit really hit the fan when oil crashed
>>59968750
That probably had a lot more to do with their country going into the shitter than "lol commies r dumb"
>>59968612
Cartel violence still exist but is not as bad as in Mexico. it is heavily concentraded in cities on the pacific coast, so the average colombian living in big cities or small towns in other regions is not affected by this kind of violence.
>>59967500
They stole our flag and left it under the sun for a bit too long.
>>59968612
Is the same shit with different names.
We had the cartels, then the paras and the guerrillas, now we have bacrims, the cocaine is still being produced, and the big deal now is the illegal mining.
>>59964666
Satan checked
>>59968896
yeah don't worry kid, you are safe in your private high school.
>>59964570
can someone please explain to me in simple words what is happening in venezuela and why?
>>59969017
Their economy was almost entirely built on oil. Oil prices went into the shitter and everything went south. Also sanctions from the U.S. and a lot of ther commie policies make it hard to invest there so it's difficult for them to get out of it.
>>59969017
- Highest inflation in the world
- Second highest murder rate after El Salvador
- Shortage of basic good (food, hygiene products, medicines)
- Electricity rationing
- Rampant crime
- Worthless currency
>>59969017
Quick tl;dr
>Be country with a fuckton of oil
>Literally 93% of your exports are oil or derivates
>Commie gets into power
>Country has a lot of money from oil so he starts giving free stuff to everyone (even foreigners like us)
>Oil crashes
>Economy crashes
>No more free food
>No more food at all
>>59969139
>>59969017
Even before the drop of oil prices there were regular shortages of everyday goods. Toilet paper is the most famous one.
>>59969017
See
>>59967582
You can't attribute all of it to ruling party incompetence.
>>59969237
There's no toilet paper, razors, condoms, painkillers, etc... People are literally dying in hospitals as some medicines are impossible to find.
>>59969334
Yes you can.
Russia is under sanctions by USA and west europe, but they manage to not let their people starve, atleast not on the same level.
Blaming USA for a failing socialist regime is like blaming democracy for terrorist acts.
>>59969334
You can't justify this.
No matter what, you just can't.
>>59969334
It seems that military Coups are not cool anymore. But they still have the touch, is the second L.A president that they are going to take down this month.
death is overall benefitial to undeveloped countries
This is why you should never trust money.
Cant eat money, cant build a bridge out of it, cant build a shelter out of it, literally zero usage value.
Just hoard canned food, copper, zinc, consumer electronics, etc. These things have practical, usage value, and can not fail, not even during economic crash.
Piling a lifetime of food is really easy to do in this day and age as well. I unironically intend to build myself something like a bunker, and maybe retire in it when I am done working.
>>59969017
Socialism happen
Socialism fail
>>59968103
>if you are a kid in the Guajira
Fixed that for you, indio
>>59969602
you can always invest in gold, since even with economical crash gold value would still be more or less the same
>>59969229
Seems like a horrible idea basing a entire economy on a single commodity.
so what would save venezuela? how to make venezuela great again (or for the first time)?
>>59969686
well being a kid in the streets of Bogota, Medellin or Cali is better because you wont starve, there are like 10 other ways to die faster there.
>>59969434
A) Russia has a MUCH bigger, stronger, and far more diverse economy.
B)Russia is a shithole and gets shittier by the day.
C) You actually can blame democracy for terrorism because democratic western countries keep bombing the Middle East and provoking terrorist actions.
>>59969835
Absolutely nothing can save Venezuela.
If they ever get out of the meme hole that is socialism, their country would take decades to fix itself into a decent state.
>>59969866
>C) You actually can blame democracy for terrorism because democratic western countries keep bombing the Middle East and provoking terrorist actions.
9 out of 11, you almost got me
Who cares, If Venezuela disappeared today, nobody would notice.
>>59969835
Get rid of socialism.
>>59969835
They need an influx of cash that will buy them time and allow them to diversify their economy. Private enterprise won't save them since nobody is going to invest in a crumbling economy, and privatization/austerity will likely only worsen the crisis since what little services are available will almost certainly become more expensive. At this point they basically need a miracle jump in oil prices to give them a chance to diversify and get on their feet.
>>59969958
but CNN, Fox, Prisa, et al, do care a lot.
>>59969835
Things can either go terribly wrong (civil war) or start improving very slowly if they purge the commies and oils recovers.
>>59969728
>gold
Sure it's pretty and shiny, just like money, but other than limited application in electronics, usage value of gold is not that high.
Honestly I'd rather hoard food, medical suplies and tech manuals instead. That's really important to me. I'd rather be surrounded by those things than gold or money.
>>59968360
>>59968612
>falling for that mamerto bait
really?
poverty in Venezuela is twice as much as in any other country including Colombia. that faggot is probably a troll (no way someone could be that deluded).
>>59970001
>Economist Martin Wolf analyzed the relationship between cumulative GDP growth in 2008–2012 and total reduction in budget deficits due to austerity policies (see chart at right) in several European countries during April 2012. He concluded, "In all, there is no evidence here that large fiscal contractions budget deficit reductions bring benefits to confidence and growth that offset the direct effects of the contractions. They bring exactly what one would expect: small contractions bring recessions and big contractions bring depressions."
>Changes in budget balances (deficits or surpluses) explained approximately 53% of the change in GDP, according to the equation derived from the IMF data used in his analysis.[35]
>Similarly, economist Paul Krugman analyzed the relationship between GDP and reduction in budget deficits for several European countries in April 2012 and concluded that austerity was slowing growth. He wrote: "this also implies that 1 euro of austerity yields only about 0.4 euros of reduced deficit, even in the short run. No wonder, then, that the whole austerity enterprise is spiraling into disaster."[36]
>>59969845
In which city do you live? Are you planning to move out of the country? It seems like you're not too happy living here.
>>59970037
>Prisa
How I hate them. Since Chávez won the first elections they has been flooding with bullshit about Venezuela in Spain.
>>59969958
The US would sure miss that cheap ass low quality oil though
>>59970237
have*
>>59970122
BUT MUH RCN
>>59970037
Nobody watches those outside of Hispanic countries.
So let's say i own a factory in Venezuela.
The crisis happen, so i propose to my workers to be paid in food instead of worthless money, i make food come from somewhere.
Did i just jewed Venezuela ?
>>59970211
Not yet. Im taking this approach: >>59969602
Learning survirval tips, how to grow my own food and stuff like that.
>>59970237
Prisa has a lot of power in colombia, they talk about Venezuela every fucking day. The other day they made a big drama because there was no purina for the lap dog of some old lady.
>>59970387
Who really watches RCN? I'm not him, but those are facts. Poverty here is around 20,6% while in venezuela it is 70%+ due to inflation and lost purchasing power. Have you ever traveled abroad? If so, I'm sure you've noticed that these issues you complain so much about exist pretty much everywhere.
>>59970425
what do you watch in Germany?
>>59970458
Nope, you jewed yourself. After people find out that your company has supplies of food, they will attack and plunder it. It is better to sell food on black market for much higher price and hire soldiers/criminals who would distribute it to those people in Venezuela who still have money, gold, savings and so on. You could also exchange food for children that could be sold to the USA: a lot of rich people there wait for transplantations
>>59970458
>i own a factory in Venezuela
You don't.
http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=95f48ecf-84e3-4d4c-a272-54c68f3a57f5
http://www.janes.com/article/60349/state-of-economic-emergency-increases-expropriation-risks-in-venezuela-but-unlikely-to-change-economic-policy
http://www.havanatimes.org/?p=113001
>>59970554
I was pretending to be the other with my "MUH" statement.
>But my very specific type of communism has never been tried!
I'd try to help but it goes against te fiber of my being to help a dirty red.
>>59970577
BBC
>>59964968
Just join the US, amigo, together we can be called American without dirty spic- without friendly Latinos complaining about it.
>>59970387
>>59970709
Dios, qué puto retrasado.
Yo sí soy >>59970122, pero como ya lo dijo >>59970554, son hechos.
Y no, en Ecuador hay mayor desnutrición infantil que en Colombia.
En Venezuela, actualmente, los niños se mueren por causas relacionadas a la falta de insumos hospitalarios y de alimentos a una tasa mucho mayor a la de Colombia.
>>59970606
He could do that then hire private guards and shit. Also, I wouldn't call being raided being jewed
Holguín-Serra pact for the annexation of failzuelan territory by Colombia and Brazil when?
>>59970745
Tbh the whole "muh specific brand" argument doesn't make any sense as an argument against socialism.
>socialist government comes to power
>socialist government fails
>other socialists say "hey this socialist government failed, maybe we should look at why and try to fix these problems"
>retards launch into the whole "hurr durr lol muh unique perfect communism" argument
>>59967767
>The IMF
>That organism created by a communist spy
>>59968104
>>59967767
>>59967634
>>59966913
>>59964611
>>59968017
>>59968249
>>59968320
holy shit Pablo Manuel Iglesias, you are a proxy master
>>59970458
>i make food come from somewhere
if you can :^)
>>59970761
kek
>>59970577
I dont watch TV at all.
>>59971159
He's a peruvian fag living in Leafland. Definitely not a proxy, Jordi.
>>59971159
>IMF
>communist
Are you high?
>>59971155
Or, more realistically:
>other socialists say "they weren't real socialists, socialism can't fail only be failed"
>continue to leech government money into their own pockets
>>59964570
>Venezuela
around 300k spanairds are living there...they emigrated there in the spanish civil war...and now is a shithole
>>59971538
Sure that happens, but anybody with half a brain would look at the specific reasons for failure, and try to determine how to fix them.
Only regards would either A) try the exact same thing again or B) Assume that the entire concept was worthless instead of actually finding out why things went to shit.
>>59971814
Spaniards are the cancer of nations.
>>59971538
This so much.
>>59971852
>Spaniards are the cancer of nations.
says a fucking amerilard
>>59971852
they ruined south italy too. It was under spanish rule, and look nowadays, it's a shithole
just bomb spain already
>>59971913
>says a fucking amerilard
whose country is getting invaded by spaniards
>>59971837
The trouble is, every time socialism is tried, it results in millions of people in slums eventually. I get that you want to perfect it, but after socialism kills millions upon millions of people via starvation, will it be worth it to finally have your one socialist nation that works?
>>59971837
The failure was that they were corrupt as hell, and still are. And that failure will kept repeating because most people that advocate socialism are corrupt as well.
>>59971975
>>says a fucking amerilard
>whose country is getting invaded by spaniards
they are not spaniards...they got independence since early 1800,faggot...
they mixed with us ....nobody is spaniard there.
>>59972026
Every time centralized authoritarian state socialism is tried it leads to disaster. If you think that that's the only kind there is then I advise you to pick up a book.
>>59972062
Don't be ridiculous, there are corrupt people on the right and left, no side is particularly worse than the other. The opposition is always the champion of clean government and transparency until they get into power.
>>59972441
I recognize that socialism often does work on a small scale, but fight for it in your town or even a city, not on the national scale.
>>59971034
SOON
>>59972632
Except if you have it operating on small scale everywhere, then its operating on a national scale isn't it?
>2016
>not supporting Minarchist syndicalism
>>59973051
But the cool thing about small scale government is that the people within those constituencies get more say in how their government is run. So you can't force ever municipality to run on socialist policy, you can just let ever municipality decide for themselves.
In that I agree. The smaller scale the more powerful the government can be, and the national government should be fairly weak in comparison.
>>59973051
>supporting meme philosophies
>>59973232
>So you can't force ever municipality to run on socialist policy, you can just let ever municipality decide for themselves.
Depends, I would make the argument that in practice capitalism unless properly restricted inevitably results in the disproportionate growth of wealth and political power of a small minority of citizens, resulting in oligarchy, a shrinking middle class, and massive inequality. The U.S. is living proof of this. I think that in order to preserve freedom and democracy there ought to be constitutional protections for workers, specifically guaranteeing them the right to a minimum level of ownership of the companies they work for.
>>59973256
>being a spic
>>59973420
Wealth inequality is preferable to equality in squalor in my opinion.
even Americas poorest are living better thank he average Venezuelan. I do think a healthy amount of socialist policy is good, I just lean right most of the time.
>>59973464
>being a fucking leaf
>>59973749
>rare pic of the average Brazillian
>>59973622
>Wealth inequality is preferable to equality in squalor in my opinion.
Venezuela pushed things too far too fast imo. I would promote the gradual growth and cooperatives competing in a free market and gradual decline of corporations.
Not to mention that inequality leads to squalor.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_inequality-adjusted_HDI
>>59973464
is that your best comeback? We know we're spics and that doesn't offend us.
>>59973989
>>59973749
Why can't y'all just get along?
>>59973622
communists hate prosperity, that's all there is to it
>>59974016
It's a comeback to a non argument.
>>59974174
The argument is that you support non usable at a large scale philosophies.
>>59974268
If you have a decentralized economy and federal state, then small scale becomes large scale if everybody is doing it.
I'm basically just promoting free market based around cooperatives instead of corporations.
>>59974341
If it is so effective, then why hasn't it been adopted by capitalist countries, which are always looking for the most efficient and at the same time cheapest way to do business?
>>59974499
>If it is so effective, then why hasn't it been adopted by capitalist countries
Because corporations and plutocrats have a vested interest in maintaining the current system? Why would the owner of a company want to give his workers more power and have his profits more evenly distributed?
>>59969017
>previous ruler sucked
>Chavez gets into power
>uses oil money to keep things somewhat ok
>nationalizes oil, kicks out foreign oil companies (gotta burn those bridges)
>doesn't sell their poor quality crude to the one nation with good enough refineries (that'd be America)
>buys expensive military hardware from the Russians instead of diversifying the economy
>blames any economic problems on "wreckers" and the CIA, and sets prices on tons of shit
>trades large amounts of oil to Cuba and China, who immediately sell it to the US
>Chavez dies
>oil prices plummet
>Chavez's successor, Maduro, is fucking retarded
>economy goes to shit
TL;DR They used oil money to keep things OK, but oil prices are very low right now.
>>59974341
Merely wishful thinking. In reality, if that were to ever happen, you get a balkanized state of cooperatives fighting each other for resources, if they don't group up into de facto big governments.
Similar reasons to why anarchism, and anarcho capitalism especially, will never work either.
>>59964570
>>>59966606
>This. Numbers confirm.
>Government intervention in the economy is the worst thing that can happen to a country. Just look at venezuela or Argentina.
by govt intervention you mean commie shit and not regulation like anti monopoly laws and minimum wage and shit right?
>>59975118
Which is why I said minarchist, not anarchist. It's literally impossible to not have a state since everybody agrees that there should be a monopoly on the legitimate use of force.
>>59976051
Yet it fails into similar problems, the more entities there are, the harder it is to collaborate and have a cohesive government, and the easier for splits to happen.
>>59975352
Yes there are some necessary measures like minimum wage and anti monopoly but protectionism, fixing the exchange rate, nationalizing or expropiating companies is going too far and quite detrimental to any economy.
>>59964968
Can confirm. South America being shit greatly benefits the Jews. Now we can pay a shekel less for tacos.
>>59975352
Yes. I am not anarchist.
>>59974783
Still the best that Latin America has to offer.
>>59964968
They want to get us into TPP and enslave us forever
and also cut us of from Russia and China
WW3 is being fought over whose currency is going to be the next new world reserve
this is the 70s all over again only that there are so many niggers theres no return
and then the cycle thing repeats
>>59980541
estas diciendo que están asfixiando económicamente a Venezuela por el petroleo?
>>59980808
The petrol price dip is completely artificial, only time it happened before was when the US invaded the whole middle east after WW2 and the US knows how to create instability in a country
but regardless i was talking about pro US governments getting elected around latinamerica, they all magically want to join TPP
>>59981139
>elected
not in brasil. huEhUeHUe
Oh well, we will be there soon with crony capitalism.
