What's ur cunt current service rifle?
We still use FAL.
>>59891421
g3 it looks similiar to fal but it'll be upgraded to a different rifle in a few years
>still use
o fal é bom pra crl, nao vejo pra que trocar por outro
We use pic related. Even the Muhreens are switching from the M16A4 to the M4A1.
Carbine masterrace tbqh
>>59891421
This thing, we bought the rights to make our own shit from the Belgians in the 80's but we've modified it between the years to fit Northern landscape and climate.
>>59891421
Depends on the branch/unit.
>>59891852
Forgot image ffs
G36
>>59891885
YO DUDE (WEED) IS THAT A CHINA LAKE??
This beauty
C7A2 is Standard issue service rifle
FAMAS
>>59891421
The god tier "PM Vigneron M2"...
...seriously I don't know.
>>59891689
>This
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2fA_YHrNyDQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5MK_R4mIk_I
>>59891936
It is an M79.
>>59892024
You use this m8
>>59892024
Belgians use F2000
>>59892075
Fucking weak compared to our glorious rocketshitthingy
>>59892192
Do you guys still use AKMs or have you all switched over to AK-74s?
>>59892221
>comparing a gustav to a hand held grenade launcher
You'll appreciate the "tube" action in this picture then.
>>59891608
>>59891421
we recently upgraded to this one, it's blessed by kek(pbuh)
HK416, replaced the AG3 which was a slightly modified G3 produced domestically.
We changed to IA2s now.
>>59892192
Why hug the guns?
>>59892263
Kek m8.
You done service yourself, or just interested in the military?
>>59892297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XV9RbE8IWI
Get with the times, grandpa
>>59892323
Slav thing
>>59892339
You guys are sticking with .308 / 7.62x51?
>>59892339
>>59892297
We'll need to produce couple hundred thousand of these to be able to say that they have replaced g3s. And the numbers arent near anything that yet
>>59892326
Indeed, got out recently. Just your average 11b (infantryman), nothing exciting.
Normal jaegers use rk 62 but I am special and so I have rk 95 tp :))))
>>59891936
China Lake never left prototype stage.
It's Russia who uses a China Lake style gun since the 90's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0IEvOrrtjw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXxZ2K0G3J4
>>59892395
well i don't know much about guns so dunno lad(haven't done my service yet)
We develop our own, it looks like ( and mostly functions like ) ARs but it has some different things that give it the upper hand
>>59891421
It depends on your section, but infantry use FAL and FAL-M5
Steyr AUG
>>59892419
Nice man, well i myself haven't done any service yet. I have gotten a letter from the Finnish government calling me to service now after i'm finishing my studies.
My dad did tours in Afghanistan and in the Balkan
Granddad went to congo and since he's a American he also went to Vietnam.
L85(A2)
>>59892323
>We changed to IA2s now.
Most conscripts(as in most of the Brazilian military) still using the FAL, they're grabbing 50k FALs a year and upgrading them to IA2, they just change the metal parts and put those green ones. The IA2 is just the FAL with a coat of paint.
>>59891689
Mas já trocaram...
>>59892625
This shit is the FAL. Except now it melts.
>>59892599
Aaaaamujaaaa :D
>>59892624
Actually most of the Military uses 5.56 versions.
Although the 7.62 versions is just a fal with Polymer.
>>59892616
Looks like it's clumsy, but hey what do i know.
>>59892687
Perkele :DDDDDDDDDD
>>59892599
>Finnish conscription
You'll have fun bud, I miss being in the Army already, deployments were the best and worst times of my life. Everything seems much more dull compared to service life.
>>59892235
AKM used by oldschool guys from Spetznaz from very far places, those who do not trust VSS Vintores or Val (9x39), because for AKM there are a suppressor and special ammo for it (7.62x39).
Some special forces (especially who often travel to Dagestan) used AKM because of 75-rnd drums. But often they use AK-100 series for it (AK-103, AK-104).
Most army used AK-74M.
Most
>>59891421
SA80
I think it looks pretty neat.
>>59892701
good gun mate, us Brits have a history of making good guns.
>>59892395
Yes we are. Turkey is highly mountainous and there are very large open ranges at times. So battle rifles will always be our main services rifles
>>59892323
>Why hug the guns?
order not to release the weapon from the hands
>>59892875
Yeah i don't doubt it's good but it just seems like an odd and clumsy design.
>>59892755
Well i'm getting sent into the only Swedish speaking regiment there is. Probably gonna get homo'd by Sven.
>>59892863
Terrible rifle in my opinion, has a lot of core mechanical issues with its feeding system that create jams.
Isn't the British Army moving away from them? When I was deploying most of the British guys weren't using SA80s.
>>59892822
cпacибo
>>59892877
Interesting, You would only need to carry 1 ammunition type for both rifles and GPMGs
>>59892435
Its a GM-94.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOMMozYzt0g
>>59892974
You will be having good times in Dragsvik :)
Colt Canada C7/C8
This shit
FALs and IA2s mostly in the Army.
Navy uses HK and M16.
>>59893267
lol
Most infantry use micro-Tavor nowdays, some still use the M4A1 and M16A4
>>59892975
I've heard it's pretty unpopular, what were the Brits you deployed with using?
>>59891421
Pretty much FAL
People also cosplay as our service rifle with our service rifle.
Thanks Japan.
>>59893264
Dutch version looks cooler than ours lol
>>59893267
These are sold in Canada although they are not select fire
>>59892428
I thought they upgraded that shit already.
t. c babber
>>59893111
If I know right we already use 7,62 for all of them . PKM and MG3 are main machine rifles and they all use same rounds
>>59893318
>no galil
This is disapointing.
>>59893318
Wish these would come to Canada, The fullsize Tavor is a bit bulky
Main one is Beryl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mtUK7qUobI
But our army is supplied also with newly developed modular weapon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyek6e2VPDo
>>59893431
Close, Both the MG-3 and your Service rifle use 7.62x51 but the PKM uses the russian 7.62x54R round.
>>59893529
here you go
>>59893389
Some 2/16 policedogs gets to use rk 62m and there is no hurry to upgrade that fast because rk 62 and 95 are pretty solid picks.
>>59893436
not since the early 90's bruh
>>59893431
> PKM and MG3 are main machine rifles and they all use same rounds
Buy PKM (and SVD, i know it used by Turkish army) used 7.62x54, but MG3 used 7.62x51.
Isn`t it?
>>59892593
what is this, cs 1.5?
Some M4's show up too.
>>59892693
I served last year, we all used FAL manufactured in 1970.
Spanish Civil War
SIG 550
it's alright
>>59893638
>>59893531
I dont know about the details but then they are probably different rounds
>>59893267
They want to change it for the galil ace.
>>59893852
Conscription? Yeah they always give shitty equipment since the boys there dont last a year.
t. Did conscription.
>How to take corners, finnish style
WHY IS IT ALWAYS BRAZILIANS WHO MAKETHESE RETARDED THREADS
WHY
WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH GUNS
PLEASE GO TO /K/
NOBODY HERE CARES ABOUT YOUR FUCKING SUPER TUCANO
>>59892303
>mfw I was issued a goddamn MP5
No fucking way I would want to bring a pea shooter like that into battle.
kroejšn produkt
>>59894401
Id prefer to carry an MP5 desu atleast in training, way lighter
>tfw I will never be able to buy a Para-fal
>>59894157
is she using a mirror or genuinely retarderede?
>>59894401
Pretty looking weapon is usually shitty for warfare. Weapon should be simple and effective.
AK-74, AKS-74
>>59894637
man you're gonna love my club then
PKM > KVKK 62
>>59894247
>NOBODY HERE CARES ABOUT YOUR FUCKING SUPER TUCANO
shut up the super tucano is fucking baller
>>59891421
All kinds of Kalash desu.
>>59894247
Super Tucano is good for Counter - Insurgency.
So looks like some countries still use the FN FAL.
Is the FAL considered a decent rifle? can I get some US weapon guys opinion, I have literally no idea.
>>59892343
>tfw CoD Ghosts and AW
FX-05
Its cool
>>59894820
They're pretty decent for jungle warfare, since lots of stuff in the way, 7.62 must be used. But since 2012 the military been replacing them with 5.56 IA2 rifle, even though it has a 7.62 that will go for the jungle warfare units. Basically a lighter version of the FAL.
>>59892875
it was fucking awful in black ops 1
>>59894982
lel bitch u even golden famas?
>>59894551
Of course he's serious! We were in the army, serving our fatherland!
>>59892875
it was in fact such a geat gun that we got it sent over to germany to marvel at its magnificent engineering and learn a thing or two!
wew lad
>>59894452
>entire army bullpups
Aren't those a pain in the dick to reload though?
>>59895288
>mfw remembering 74u+GL faggotry
Are there actually any differences between the same types of guns? Have they not made guns that shoot perfectly straight and stuff?
>>59894468
It made sense to give it to me because I was artillery crew, not frontline soldier. And running in and out of cramped vehicles, a small weapon is handy.
But if you got in an actual fight, the range on an MP5 is horrible. Iagine being out in the woods, and the bullet drop is insane. Not sure exactly when the bullet starts dropping but over 100 meters I'd say you're fucked and you have to start lobbing your bullets at your target. It's only good for short engagements.
>>59894737
Onko tästä se epävirallisen taistelijanoppaan täysversio jossain?
>>59895603
>Galil+Silencer faggotry
>mfw I carried PKM and Apilas for 5 days on a exercise
>>59895930
i feel like i was literally the only person that used the flamethrower attachment. shit was cash. i don't care what anybody says.
>>59893585
Good lad
>tfw no service militaire so will never hold the glorious FAMAS in my hands
>>59896134
Me too, that and the masterkey. I remember when playing MW2, i used too. People used to call me cheater even though it was literally one of the attachments.
>>59896302
ayy, remember those dual wield HS-10's? my friends would always shit on me for using them. but they just didn't understand.
>>59894982
They always make our guns out to be shite, did the same on MW2 with the LMG version, quite annoying desu
It's probably because it doesnt look tacticool enough
>>59895446
why would you krauts need to learn from others when you literally invented the assault rifle
>>59896454
Yeah lel. But i used to run around with a Silenced SPAS. Fun as fuck.
>>59892822
You forgot 45-round magazines for RPK-74
>>59892822
>russians using EOTech
wot
that's an american company
>>59896809
Russians always used some foreign gear.
>>59895753
Basic physics man.
Different situations will require different barrel length and ammo for example.
Fighting in a desert with clear view is a lot different than fighting in a forest.
>>59896920
i doubt our gubment would let them sell to russkies tho
>>59896809
You can buy one in the gun shop if you have enough cash.
>>59896809
You can buy EOTechs on the civilian market. They're not cheap (like $4-500+) but you can.
>>59896107
HYI VITTU, lohtajan helvetissä tuli juostua tämän perkeleen kanssa koko ampumaleiri
>>59896986
I don't think gun sights are such "military secret" to the point on not being sold, even for Russians.
>>59896632
the joke was that the first L-85 was so fucking bad they had to give it to heckler and koch to fix it rudimentarily and it STILL is a piece of shit. there are some statistics floating around the web that show just how horrible (i recall sth like >80% failure rate in cold conditions) it was before h&k patched it around, but i can't be arsed to find them right now.
>german humor
I have a gun from FN Herstal sitting at my grandma's (They live 5 minutes away from Herstal). I think it's a P90 but i'm not quite sure. What should I do with it? Both my grand parents used to work there as engineers but my grandpa passed out. My grandma (who is still alive) told me once they were gifted a gun from FN Herstal.
>>59897306
Clean it, take care and keep it.
>>59897306
>but my grandpa passed out
Then wait till he wakes up.
>>59897339
I need to get ahold of it first
>>59896954
I get that basic principle in the picture, different types of guns have different uses, but I was talking about within the same type, e.g. a sniper and a sniper, is there really that much difference?
>>59897510
Oh. My grandparents kinda live isolated in the countryside. They have 2 pistols and a Pump Shotgun.
>>59897623
Shoot them out somewhere in the woods t b h
>>59892624
>rotating bolt and tilting bolt are the same thing
The 5.56 IA2 is the MD97 carbine in a polymer shell. The 7.62 NATO one is indeed a polymer FAL.
And answering OP's question, H&K G3 and G3A3 because we're poor.
>tfw your country's army doesn't even produce its own ammunition
JUST
>>59894247
Wealthy teenagers have a weird obsession with military and guns here in Brazil for some reason.
The Brazilian military is a rusty piece of shit more corrupt than the government and yet they worship it as if it was a gigantic military powerhouse that makes the world tremble in fear.
I think it's what happens when a country is so unequal, the elite's children live secluded from society so they have these weird fantasies of power.
>>59897734
We do, quite fun.
>>59897851
i think he meant your parents famalam
>>59897742
>me
>wealthy
Yeh no, what's the problem with liking guns?
>>59898161
kek
>>59897851
I wish I could do that if I were to get ahold of the gun. But then again it'd probably be a struggle to get some ammunition. Everything is controled here, especially when it comes to owning guns and shit
>>59898161
Nah, love them too much.
>>59897577
A rifle might be better at handling moisture than a similar rifle is better at handling dust and sand depending on how they are built thus we have a lot of different types of similar rifles that essentially do the same things in different environments.
In the military I mostly blew stuff up so I'm no expert but this is the basic understanding that i have.
>>59898337
They got no ammo?
>>59898181
>but anon, you like GUNS? Like, the ones that kill people? That is WRONG, why do you do this?
>>59898399
Dont think so.
>>59898413
G-Got a taste after conscription...
>>59898579
Oh... but the chances are zero to get it? Or is ther a (long) way to do it?
>>59898605
At least you enlisted and can use it as an excuse.
I just sound like a possible school shooter.
>>59898858
reported for underage, alberto
>>59898858
Don't have conscription there?
>>59898912
School was a generic term, I suppose Chang wasn't called a "college shooter"
>>59898947
tfw no mandatory service
its not fair I want to serve
[spoiler]they're not letting me in due to autism its not right i want to end the foes of her majesty the queen[/spoiler]
[spoiler]send help and or firearms[/spoiler]
>>59898947
Couldn't get in because of my slight club foot.
>>59899060
Why not enlist then?
>>59898947
They use leather pants?
>>59899140
Oh... ew.
>>59899196
Yep, they have to due to sharp rocks, trees and can cut, cactuses and venomous insects.
>>59899180
brazil please be into reading comprehension
autism does not allow me into the army
not even the navy
NOT EVEN THE RAF
i want to believe that they would accept me in the royal signals because tech autism but I fear for my autism flaring up if I phyiscally go to a recruitment office
I want to sit next to these lads in the snazzy beret and feel like I have a use in this world
>>59899140
That's too bad. I think that our conscripts that get relieved of duty for minor health issues like that can still volunteer.
>>59899399
do you actually have autism or are you just memeing
>>59899451
literal clinical autism that I get disability shit for
I hate this I could be someone that doesn't leech but they won't even let me try since the medical exam and records are checked first
>>59899399
I'm a fucking autist and they let me drive Tanks.
>>59897735
IA2 7.62 = Imbel FAL
IA2 5.56 = MD-97L
>Isso significa que lotes e lotes de fuzis 7,62 mm massivamente empregados pelo Exército Brasileiro, Força Aérea Marinha e Fuzileiros Navais (em menor número) serão recolhidos, e os em melhores condições submetidos a um processo de upgrade, transformando-os em novos Imbel IA2 7,62 mm com a substituição de diversos componentes antigos por outros novos, na forma de um kit industrial capaz de ser entregue pela Imbel aos Batalhões Logísticos de Material Bélico, local onde os fuzis serão “modernizados”.
http://www.planobrazil.com/exercito-brasileiro-adota-oficialmente-o-fuzil-imbel-ia2-556-mm/
The 7.62 version and 5.56 aren't even related to each other(except for the fact the Imbel MD-1 was Imbel's attempt at making a 5.56 FAL). Originally the IA2 5.56×45mm was called MD-97A2, but the MD-97 has a really bad reputation for jamming all the time and magazine falling out if the gun gets heated up and even firing by itself even when set to safe, so they gave it a new name.
Another thing is that Imbel can only manufacture around 8,000 rifles per year. That's why Brazilians claiming the Brazilian military uses IA2 is bullshit. It will take at least 10 years or more to fully equip all Brazilian soldiers with the IA2.
>>59899516
oh
they
they changed the website
autism isn't on the b& list anymore
but allergies to nuts still are
I literally think that I might just hop on over to RAF Prestwick and get some cunt to shoot me
>>59899684
godspeed anon
>>59899575
>Another thing is that Imbel can only manufacture around 8,000 rifles per year. That's why Brazilians claiming the Brazilian military uses IA2 is bullshit. It will take at least 10 years or more to fully equip all Brazilian soldiers with the IA2.
They've been producing since 2012, i think at this rate a large number are already in hand. Without counting the Police force who also bought some batches. Of course, the majority still with the 7.62(pic related), which it should be desu. Plus we're not in war either, so of course it will be quite slow.
>>59899684
So they accept autists now? Good, go for it, be a Royal Marine or Pilot.
A.FUCKING.F2000.
I fucking hate this shit. Our soldiers could've used the old Zastava rifles but no, got to make deals with fucking NATO.
>>59899863
brazil im going to buy a plane ticket and fucking stab you if you dont stop responding before you've read my post
>>59900131
Stop being such a bitch, i fucking read it. Don't blame me because you're a little bitch who has allergies to nuts.
>>59900131
But what would you do once you bought your ticked?
>>59900288
>>59900261
Stop bullying him lads, he doesn't deserve it
>>59899818
>propaganda picture
>guy in the background with original FAL
Fail kek. If not even their propagandas have the green FAL.
>>59900368
>Of course, the majority still with the 7.62(pic related), which it should be desu.
Nigger did you even read my post?
>>59900288
i would purchase a knife and then walk with my head down to the british embassy to hand myself in for possesion of a weapon
>>59900261
WHY DID YOUR POST INSINUATE THAT I COULD STILL JOIN THEN IF I EXPRESSLY STATED I COULD NOT
ALLOW ME TO BE A BITCH THIS ONCE YOU THIRD WORLD FUCK
>>59900447
BECAUSE YOU FUCKING SAID IT THAT THEY ACCEPT AUTISTS AND DON'T BLAME ME FOR YOUR COUNTRY MILITARY BEING SUCH A NITPICKING BITCH FOR NOT TAKING GUYS WITH SUCH A BITCH ALLERGY SUCH AS NUTS
>>59900440
Operation Agata was a propaganda operation to show it to American, German, Russian, Chilean, Argentinean officers who were visiting Brazil to see it.
It was made like a movie, with cameras set up like a film set and even a script.
The fact they couldn't equip everyone with IA2 to impress the gringos is hilarious.
>>59900833
So? Everybody does that. Actually that's exactly the point, why so surprised?
But the point is, the majority still with the old FALs.
Viet fag currently living in US
most of the armed force now use Galil Ace 31 as to keep using the same ammo and magazine.
SF use TAR 21 and some time they use FN FNC
>>59894452
theres a new version out
they also made a whole bunch of new handguns
>>59901624
>>59901833
A E S T H E T I C
>>59895446
>it was in fact such a geat gun that we got it sent over to germany to marvel at its magnificent engineering and learn a thing or two!
>wew lad
H&K was owned by BAE Systems at the time and all the upgrades were made in Britain, Germans did fuck all.
G36E
>>59892593
Same here
>>59892323
It's quite comfortable to hold a rifle that way tbqh.
>>59905162
That's actually an old Soviet technique of holding the rifle:
https://youtu.be/bHkQ72XpxCk?t=1m50s
>>59894452
>>59901833
I wish you guys would hurry up and make a semi-auto version so I can live out my Helghast fantasies.
>>59894157
Any Finns care to comment on the rk62's stock? I know it's being replaced, so I'm wondering if it's uncomfortable.
>>59905757
I haven't shot one because I skpped the conscription and only own a 95, but I think th biggest problems were the downwards angle thst increased muzzle flip and lack of customidable length of pull, not so much the comfort
>>59892975
SA80A1/L85A1 was the shitty version. The A2 fixed the problems, what they have now is a good piece of kit that's accurate and reliable.
At least according to the people who have actually used them.
>>59906025
Thanks man. What did it take to get the 95?
>>59906289
Maybe half a year of shooting at the range, some paperwork. Nothing too involved.
It doesn't have the funswitch though, that would take a lot more work, though even that's not impossible.
>>59906342
Hot damn.
>>59895883
Uppasin sulle
>>>/tg/47446217
>>59894820
I've heard vets talking about using the C1 (Canadian variant of the FN FAL) they said it was a heavy beast but liked the extra power of the 7.62x51
>>59901833
cyberpunk af
>>59897179
Actually EOtechs and ACOGs are export controlled. Civilians here can buy them (sold in every gun store) but its illegal to send them outside the country. Its kind of a silly law because they end up being bought by chinese and russian spys here and shipped back to the homeland to end up on their special forces weapons. Every once in a while it'll pop up in the news that a russian or chinese will get arrested for it (though normally its night vision or thermal sights).
>>59910639
All Russian special forces use EOtech.
The elite FSB units even have the PSQ-20, which is pretty much the best night vision googles on earth right now.
>>59891818
i find them ugly
>>59910708
Yeah, but they are obtained illegally. This guy is serving 15 years in prison for exporting night vision goggles to russia.
https://www.ecustoms.com/blog/?p=611
>>59910708
Russia has its own EOtech copy, but the SF guys will try and get the real thing when they can.
>>59910639
Bullshit, at least EOtechs are common as fuck around here, so I'm pretty sure they aren't covered by ITAR. Pic related, an EOtech at the last range session.
>>59896107
Best GPMG ever.
>>59894982
No it wasn't, you just sucked.
>>59896498
They are shite though.
>>59892323
>why hug the guns
You see, Pedro, when is show love to rifle, rifle love you back and shoot more the accurate.
>>59894247
Shut up fag, go suck Muslim cock and beg for for forgiveness for the white mans sins.
>>59892875
Not since the SMLE.
>>59911100
http://www.opticsplanet.com/eotech-512-holographic-red-dot-sight-aa-battery-aiming-dot-reticle.html
"Government Export Restriction
This item may be regulated for export by the U.S. Department of State or the U.S. Department of Commerce. Please see our Export Policy prior to placing your order."
reading up on it, i think it depends where you are shipping it to and what kind of license you have. maybe they can be imported into certain countries.
>>59911275
https://viranomainen.fi/EoTech?_tm=1541
![sa80-2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qIDheM9.jpg "sa80-2[1]")
