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Is this really the worst state in the U.S.A.?
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Is this really the worst state in the U.S.A.?
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ye
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Don't believe the memes. The worst is Mississippi, in pretty much every measure.
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>>59697029
No, that honor goes to Michigan.
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why? Don't know too much about Calofornia
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>>59697083
Ohioan detected
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>>59697029
It doesn't look like the worst from a foreigner point of view
I'd rather be in California with beautiful mountains nearby rather than in bumfuck nowhere in the Great Plains
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>>59697291
For Europeans it would probably be one of the better states because you guys would be used to the type of laws and other shit it has, in fact it is probably much better than what you are used to but still shitty for us.
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it's pretty bad. tons of poverty, really bad education system, no water, literally full of just the ugliest mexican shits you've ever seen. also, too hot.
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California without Californians would be pretty cool. Just the spics, commies and "like, you know" weed lmao & surf idiots that ruin it. But even then it's still too warm and dry, at least away from the coast. Mountains seem nice though.
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>>59697029
>All that spanish names
GIVE HORO
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Rightful Mexican clay.
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>>59697848
daily reminder that mexico city was conquered by american troops in 1847

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chapultepec
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>>59697412
>really bad education system
Is it really? I have heard stereotypes, that to pass and get a GED is so easy that a 9 year old kid from China or Japan can do it.
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>>59697029
Alabama, Mississippi, Michigan, Georgia, New Mexico, and Ohio are worse. But yeah it's in the bottom 10.
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>>59697083
This
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>>59697029
california seems to be the most successfull and rich state and in the same time the least white state
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It's not necessarily the worst per se, but it's definitely the state that's fallen the farthest.
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>>59697911
Delet
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>>59697029
California, along with New York and maybe Texas are the only relevant states in the US.
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NO WATER
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>>59697029

>heaven on earth
>filled with the worst people on earth
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>>59697029
yes
filled with liberals, spics, SJWs and chinks. biggest gungrabber state. huge tax drain on the US. no water. incompetent as fuck state government. and they think theyre hot shit
>>59697911
dont worry they know
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>>59697029
they have great landscapes and amazing real estate but they have terrible "culture" and goddamn are they stupid
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>>59698143
Pic related.
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>>59698181
>huge tax drain on the US
does it also have the most extensive welfare programs?
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>>59697987
ya california's education system is notoriously bad. one of the worst in the country.
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not the worst but it should be MUCH better considering how much money is in the state
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>>59698239
yes, so if youre paco the illegal and need to support your family of 25, its no problem
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>>59698276
>best
>nebraska
wtf
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>>59698359
It's a pretty good place if you've ever stayed more than a week
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>>59698276

What the fuck is that map based off of, hot opinions?
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>>59698359
white people, extremely low unemployment, low violent crime, good schools, low cost of living. it's a very nice place to live. omaha and lincoln are usually ranked among the cities with the highest livability scores.
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>>59698359
the flyovers are really cheap and peaceful to live in which is a lot of what those lists are based off of
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>>59698359
>lol flat and boring lmao !

Fuck off. I'm from Minnesota but Nebraska is bro tier. Safe, clean, relatively healthy, pretty smart. I wouldn't live there personally but it's a stable midwestern state
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Living in California is the best. The people are happy, friendly and outgoing. In a lot of other places in America I lived and visited, it hasn't been nearly a good. Maybe CA residents deal with their stress better, maybe its the moderate climate or beautiful sunsets.
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>>59698276
Source: my ass
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>>59698479
Unemployment Rates
Median income adjusted cost of living
Education (Spending per student and low Student Teacher Ratio)
Commute Times
Crime Rates
Weather
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>>59698232
MISSOURI MENTIONED
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The only reason I don't live in Cali is the general politics. I like guns and low taxes, so Cali really isn't for me. Don't believe the memes though, it is a beautiful state. I live in Arizona and I drive to SoCal every now and then when the weather is nice, driving through that landscape is pure bliss.
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>>59697029
Canada is the worst US state tbqh
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>>59698589
>Living in California is the best.
well, according to literally every quality of life study done ever, you're wrong.

>also, nebraska is one of the happiest states, lel
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>>59698589

This isn't Reddit. Liberal American hubs like California are hated like Canada.
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>>59698645

OK.

How does Virginia match up with any of its ranked peers in the Midwest?
Why are Vermont and New Hampshire so high, but Maine so low?
In what universe is Florida close to Alabama/Mississippi in any of those regards?
Why is Michigan so low compared to similar Rustbelt states like Ohio and Pennsylvania?
Why is Arkansas so low compared to Texas and Oklahoma?
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>>59697075
>t. Califag
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>>59698232
NEW HAMPSHIRE IN GRAPH
NEW HAMPSHIRE IS RELEVAAAAAANT
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>>59698134
What is going on in Mississippi?
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California government budget
>247.0 billion 2016-17
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_budgets

Canadian government budget
>288.9 billion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Canadian_federal_budget

wut the hell does california spend it's money on? canada has to pay for a military and healthcare, california doesn't have any of that.
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>>59698915
it was an agricultural state that didn't adapt after the civil war. +niggers.
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>>59697029
cuz gringos be haters ese, we took our land back and they is extremly buthurt fressa
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>>59698850
Different poster here, but in what way is Florida NOT close to Alabama/Mississippi in those regards?
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>>59698850
I have no idea. The map is pretty consistent with most others posted itt so I dont see why you are so surprised.

You can press the arrow next to the post number that shits out a source if you wanted to look it up yourself
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>>59698932
Nigger, California has extensive welfare programs, including healthcare and education.
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>>59698850
>Why are Vermont and New Hampshire so high, but Maine so low?
desu i dont know why but maine has always been poorer than it's new england counterparts. maybe because the ground is rockier and less fertile? i don't know the reason but it's been consistent throughout history.

Michigan is low because the entire state was based around detroit's automanufacturing and detroi's lake port. both of which died so the state suffered. pennsylvania is a rustbelt state too but they were never as dependent on a single industry like michgan was so it was easier to recover. pittsburgh, for example, was a big steel city. once american steel faded out, the city quickly diversified it's economy and now is a pretty good city to live in.
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>>59699020

Well Florida'd unemployment rate is 1.5% lower, its cost of living is substantially higher, commute times are radically different due to population density, and its climate is only really similar in the northern part of the state.

I just looked it up and I'll give you education and crime though.

>>59699035

Google search yields pretty much nothing but unrelated maps, and it's surprising to me because of some of the states with similar rankings being so different at a glance.
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>>59698589
>The people are happy, friendly, and outgoing
>happy
>friendly
>outgoing
>Californians
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>>59699058
well canada literally has a singleplayer system so whatever california has shouldn't be as expensive because it's not as extensive. and maybe they need to get a refund on their education prices because california has one of the worst education system and consistently produces the dumbest kids and some of the lowest test scores in the nation.
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>>59698758
>implying politics and religion are the root, and not poverty
Causation doesn't mean correlation, especially considering these things in America:
>poor people are fat these days
>people enduring economic hardship turn to religion more
>poor people commit more crime
>more crime means higher incarceration rate
>low taxable income for the state means worse education
>poverty typically means poor prenatal care
>stress plus other issues of being poor shorten your life
After making note of all of this, look at where the worse states are most of the time. Southern states, whose industry got killed by the civil war and took a long time to do any meaningful reconstruction, and other states where their original profitable industries have died.
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>>59697029
No. Thats a pol meme. There's nowhere I'd rather live.
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>>59697029
It's not THE worst state but it's definitely one of the worst. The only nonshit thing about the state is its environment.
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>>59699382
California has high Medicaid limits so some 45% of the populace is covered by it. It's one of the only states where you can be solidly middle class and not have health insurance.

UC schools are good, but most of the students that go there are foreign students. Californians themselves go to mostly community colleges which, while low cost, are very poor in terms of education quality.
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>>59698415
>>59698488
>>59698498
>>59698534
i mean im sure its nice but im biased against the plains because i like trees and hills and shit
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>>59697029
For a white male? Yes
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>>59699533
Truth on the schools, my aunt teaches at USC and she says 85% of her students are from India or the Middle East.
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>>59699543
2bh with you senpai, eastern nebraska is endless rolling hills and lots of trees and rivers. omaha has like 4 rivers flowing through/near its metro.
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>>59699524
Yeah, its too bad that most of the people who advertise getting rid of the National Parks are from California.

>>59699543
We have hills, and we have some trees.
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>>59698534
It's also a glorified corn field.
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>>59698589
>Californians
>friendly
>outgoing

They are like New Yorkers in a sunshine state.
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>>59699700
memes.
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>>59699744
>one picture disputes it's second flattest state status
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>>59698589
Not true. Most people in California are either ghetto or snobby. When I moved to Arizona the people are much friendlier and happier, and much more approachable. Not to mention we have better sunsets and much more than 2 stars at night.
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>>59699826
but it's not even that flat wtf

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/03/science-several-us-states-led-by-florida-are-flatter-than-a-pancake/284348/

it's averagely flat. not even that different from the memest of memestates that is california.
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>>59699826
>Half the state isn't flat
>"The entire state is flat because I saw one picture guys"
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>>59698134
>tfw life long Massachusettsen

Everything west of Springfield and south of Fall River is a filthy 3rd World wasteland desu
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Rest of the country is just jealous of our cars and our ability to cruise around to pick up bitches and race.

Vid related; what the average Californian does on Friday and Saturday nights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2OoxzYqgNY
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All Nebraska haters need to GTFO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD_iSqmypfg

This video gives me feels.
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>>59699962
It isn't the amount of small hills, it's the complete lack of mountains, depressions, or canyons.

It doesn't have to be the flattest averaging out the standard elevation change, it has to be the most uniform elevation changes.

>>59699987
You didn't make sense there but I understand.
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>>59700006

I would completely agree with you if it was 60 years ago. California has changed anon.
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>>59700185
ur a big memer. western nebraska is full of buttes, cliffs, and canyons and eastern nebraska is full of big hills and bluffs. "no mountains" != flat.
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>>59697029
>Is this really the worst state in the U.S.A.?
That's Peru, my friend
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>>59700006
>jealous of not being able to significantly modify your cars
>jealous of strict emissions restrictions
>jealous of having to go in for emissions tests
>jealous of that traffic
>jealous of those gas prices
KEK
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>>59700318

>be me
>Californian
>go to Santa Barbara for the Halloween event thing
>Santa Barbara is still like 80% white
>and it's in SoCal
>girls are hot sluts
>party all the time
>race cars
>go to the beach
>go to the mountains and forest wilderness
>get to eat bomb ass Mexican food and Asian food
>get to fuck Latinas and Asians and blonde white girls

lmao rest of you inbred flyover hicks can't do that
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No. Mississippi is.
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>>59699990
lad......................springfield and fall river are 3rd world wastelands....
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>>59700848
>Entirety of Midwest is 90% white
>Girls are qt and will give their lives to you
>Get to relax with your friends and dick around without consequence
>Race cars down the interstates and have nobody get after you
>Go to the lake
>Go camping in the pine forests or at the Dells
>Eat kuchen, fried chicken, and puppy chow (pic related)
>Get to have wonderful dates and frisky bedtime activities with a wide variety of European lookalikes

Pls
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>>59697029
tied with Florida, yes
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>>59700848
>no argument about the heap of facts presented
>starts raving about fucking fat spics and crazy gooks and making shit up about how he, a 4chan poster, is r9k's idea of chad
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>>59700033
Work on your image, I thought your state was just pic related
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>>59697029
Arkansas is the worst.
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SoCal is rightful clay lads.
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>>59698134
>tfw Connecticut

Muh HDI
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>>59700033
Hello there neighbor :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRjDJWeypUM
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>>59698915
Peak negro
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>be a literal 4/10 in California
>go to the Midwest
>get a bunch of compliments and pick up lines
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>>59698134
>tfw green surrounded by reds

spooky shit desu
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>>59698181
Lel stop meming. California gives away more in taxes then it gets back.
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>>59699744
How is this not flat?

Lots of bumpy """"hills""""" does not make it not flat. Nothing in there is high. It's flat. It's flat as fuck.
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>>59702258
We are nice folk, even to the disabled :^)

>>59702490
>Picture of rolling hills
>"No those don't count"
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>>59702527
If that's the case then midwesterners are so desperate to fuck somebody half way good looking even if they're retarded lol
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>>59702527
They literally don't. When people say a place is flat they mean it's all basically that. If you can get on top of one of those "hills" and see around for miles and miles, it's flat. It's fucking flat.
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>>59701528
le ebin reddit meme

fuck off
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>californians calling anyone flat
lmao. most of your state is flatter than a pancake.
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>>59702258

That happened to me when I went to Idaho. These flyover hicks are impressed when they see a city boy Californian. We're like gods to them.
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>>59697291
>beautiful mountains nearby
Totally depends on where you are. Most of the mountains are barren or have sparse vegetation with unpleasant weather.
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>>59702669
>>59702879
Cute bait idiotnerdface

>>59702765
In that case most of California is flat, and therefore a flat state.
See how that doesn't work?
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>Hollywood famous people, actors and singers living in their meme world and talking only about them and relatives at every interviews.
>Production of porn
>Street Gangs memes
>Full of illegals and chicanos
>Niggers gangsta shit retardation: origins
>Left is the good side: the state
>"Everything in america is like us just because we shown that on TV and movies"
>"In the future there will no whites on the country anymore just because is the case in our shithole state"
>Baby Boomers: the state

But i guess the south is worse than the north?

Los Angeles is probably the most cancerous city but San Francisco is near to be no?
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>>59698201
Why is montana so smart? Aren't they just farmers?
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>>59702817
nigga you are delusional, you think that is not flat. Travel to another states and you will realize why you sound so silly.

>>59702978
I didn't say shit about California.
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I'd rather be flat and have high living standards than be nonflat and be full of 4 foot tall aztec gremlins :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gj1gbKW_Wgk&

Daily reminder that in addition to having the highest effective poverty rate, one of the lowest rankings for education, and a myriad of other embarrassing statistics, California is literally a white minority :)

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2013/07/01/2238421/california-latinos-equal-white-population/
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>>59698201
can confirm we have an obscene amount of stupid people.
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>>59702879
Just putting a slight amount of effort in makes you hot there

I wasn't used to all the attention tbqhwy

>>59702978
here's your (you)
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>>59703174
>W-we are not flat!
>L-look that other state is shitty! Stop talking about how flat we are!
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>>59703174
doughy midwesterner looking up graphs again


>>59703066
Montana is objectively the best state ever
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It's not the worst state, but it's also not the best state. It's just a big state, which is why it gets a lot of attention. Like New York, Florida, and Texas. Although New York is at least important in its own right.
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>>59699744
My grandfather grew up in the sandhills of Nebraska and told me all these nice stories about riding his horse to school and the whole family being extremely excited when they got something in the mail.
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>>59703066
Farmers are smart people.
You need to be able to balance a budget for hundreds of acres of land, do all the math to know what to plant in order to make profit, know what fertilizer to use and in what quantities, know optimal times for watering, know which pesticides to use in safe quantities, be able to test for optimum soil for plants, and be able to repair buildings and vehicles.
Agricultural science in the first world is more complex than just throwing seeds in the ground and sprinkling some water on it.

>>59703126
No you didn't but California isn't really considered a flat state even though by your definition is should be.
It's an example.

>>59703236
We don't care but you coasties keep making such a fuss about it we're obligated to tell you to fuck off.
Stop making mountains out of mole-hills and get some actual dirt on us for once.

>>59703292
>Doughy
Fried dough would be better
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southern half is poor, too hot, full of mexicans and devoid of water. top half is good.
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>>59699744
>That no-mountain horizon
>Not flat
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>lived in alaska for most of my life
>just moved to California two months ago
I havent lived here long enough to have a valid opinion but i'm getting more and more convinced that a majority of californias issues involve mexicans and liberals.
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>>59703397
>coasties

inferiority complex much?
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>>59703397
>Stop making mountains out of mole-hills and get some actual dirt on us for once.

But you were are the one trying to make your mole-hills seem like mountains :^)
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>>59703429
tha's a cool picture
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wow this is absolutely horrible look communism everywhere pls send water
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>>59703618
Looks like a Cuban resort: ie commietown
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>>59703618
>1994
C'mon, Pedro.
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>>59703498
I'm not the one trying to make my state look like Shangri La, coastie.

>>59703503
I wasn't, I'm the guy telling you to try harder at actually making people upset.
Honestly you coasties are a real drag with your inane obsession with nature and trying to prove that that somehow makes you the best people on Earth.
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>>59703498
>>59703503
You guys seriously just got outbantered
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>>59703694
It looks exactly the same today, I ran by there two days ago
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>>59703990
>endless ugly condos
>tiny houses on tiny lots
>wasteful landscaping that doesn't make sense and just looks tacky
>no shops or businesses within walking distance; they are probably a 30 minute drive away
>beach with nobody in the water
yep, it's california
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>>59703066
They're not smart, just coddle white people. They have every environmental/demographic factor working in their favor

>Fully funded schools
>No diversity or minorities
>No gang warfare or other things that usually bring down intelligence scores

They're sheltered and spoiled and don't have to face any real challenges, so look good on paper
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>>59697029
no, california is good
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>>59704130
Sounds like they should cut ties from the USA to avoid getting niggers pushed into their neighbourhoods and stay a viable society.
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>>59703481
>mexicans and liberals.
the reasons this is a problem is becase they're 90% of the state
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>>59698134
What does the purple mean??? What do the numbers mean? Shit chart desu
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>>59703066
>Why is montana so smart? Aren't they just farmers?
Because it's a map of "average IQ" with no source and no description of the methodology used, i.e. useless and meaningless.

Better indicators would be things like state-level PISA scores, SAT scores, ACT scores, % with college degree, etc.
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>>59704213
They don't have an economy
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>>59704125
>none of those are condos, that's a hotel
>the houses are huge because it's valuable land, if you drive 30 minutes east there are ranch houses with horses
>???
>most neighborhoods have shopping centers, and it's easy to get anywhere because of good highway system
>there are always tons of people in the water, I don't see how that's a good thing

The no water thing is leftist ecology bullshit. We built a desalination plant and can't use it because we already have too much. My dad actually bought into this and stopped watering our lawn for no reason
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>>59704588
why would you lie on the internet?
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>>59704588
>The no water thing is leftist ecology bullshit
https://www.revealnews.org/article/california-is-sinking-and-its-getting-worse/
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>>59704684
Just wondering but why wouldn't the pole sink with the land?
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>>59704684
Fuck California

In the military, I have met a lot of people from CA. They are some of the most self-righteous, vain, and vapid fucks you will ever meet. Not to mention they are dumber than all hell, and arguably the reason why foreigners think Americans are stupid.
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>>59704977
It is
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>>59698181
>>59698239
>Huge tax drain
California gives more in taxes to the Federal Government than it receives.
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>>59702859
>most of your state is flatter than a pancake.
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>>59705483
Just goes to show that no one in this thread knows what they're talking about
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>>59697029
>Hollywood
Yes, It's a shit.
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>>59707503
ur moms a shit

California is without a doubt the best state ever.

t. ex tourist
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>>59697998
why Michigan

because of Detroit and Flint (two places Michiganders never even visit)?
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>>59697029
The worst state would be Mississippi. Still, California sucks.
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>>59699990
most of the state is a wasteland tb/h

t. 781
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>>59707715
Michigan is a great place. Expecially Mackinac Island

I lived there for 9ish years and the only issues I've seen is Flint and their ugly-ass flag.

>>59707659
>a tourist telling an American Citizen what state is good.
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>>59697029
If i'm correct in the late 80s/early 90s it used to be one of best states.Nowdays it's infested with SJW's,literal homosexuals,liberals and other undesireable elements and it's far from it's old glory.
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There are some fuckrural places in Alabama and Mississippi where the people don't even know slavery ended and electricity is an urban myth
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>>59711391
It's always been that way. I was born here
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>>59711627
Why do you avoid the truth?California DID change a lot.Just look at Compton for example,it has changed so much from the 90s that today is practically a completely different place.You were born there and all so you probably know it yourself.And the liberalism and degeneracy could have existed back then but it wasn't even as half as strong as it is now.
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>>59698134
Happy to see that the states with the highest number of Norwegian immigrants per capita are blazing ahead of the rest

When you go to bed, thank Norway for giving you some good immigrants
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>>59711578

source?
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California is basically Sweden but with the opposite weather
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>>59712649
California
YES
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>>59697987
Something like 90% of white kids in LA go to private school.
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>>59697029
absolutely beautiful state, shit government and shit population
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California is good for the food as there are a lot of different type of people of all races. If you ignore the liberals, SJWs, homosexuals, and Mexicans, and high cost then it's a good place to visit. The strict laws can make it very hard to live here though if you are more used to 'freedom.'
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>>59713810
paying inordinate amounts of money to live in a state full of liberals, illegals, and gungrabbing isn't all it's chalked up to be lad
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I live in Newport Coast, CA

Anyone wanna hang
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>>59703066
>just farmers

So if those hardworking self sufficient farmers are stupid, then where does that leave the ghetto dwelling leeches
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>>59714059
yes
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>>59714118
I'm too rich to kill myself
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>>59697029
Yes and no; California has a few nice aspects and a whole bunch of reply bad aspects but other places have no really good aspects and only moderate bad aspects.
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>>59714223
That's because it has a huge diverse population, you're going to tend more toward the overall human average

Countries like Finland can be successful because they have small, culturally homogenous populations. When you get more people from different cultures, you tend more toward the human average like the central limit theorem you feel me senpai, so California would inherently overall look worse than like Massachusetts (where I live)
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>>59714321
like I bet if the US was 300 million Finns or whatever it would be the world leader in all stats, but wen you have tyhese huge internal differences it sets a bit hairy you know what I mean lol?
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>>59703429
The top half WOULD be good it it wasn't governed by the southern half. If the state was split up so that everything north and East of Marin county was it's own state then I'd move there in a heartbeat.
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>>59714321
Apart from the civil war, the US was doing just fine on the homogeneity front until we gave niggers rights and enabled mass third-world immigration.
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>>59697184
Mexicans
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