http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/19/britains-vast-new-aircraft-carriers-will-make-enemies-think-twic/
>Longer than the Houses of Parliament and able to launch up to 108 air strike sorties per day, Britain’s new aircraft carriers will make potential enemies “think twice” about starting future wars, their senior naval officer has said.
>less than half the air complement of a 40yo Nimitz
>make enemies think twice
Yeah I'm sure the Russians and Chinese are shaking in their commie boots.
>>59637561
*yawns*
let the yanks be the world police, i literally could not care less
>A FUCKING RAMP
>>59637561
I would like to know if Britain's new aircraft carriers can avoid Japanese missiles exceeding Mach 5, XASM-3.
>>59637561
I love the QE class, but headlines like these make me cringe.
>>59637561
>that ramp
>>59638855
are you even allowed to fight outside of japan?
>2016
>a fucking ramp
>3.1 billion pound vessel
>one airstrike and it's down the drain
what a waste of money desu
>>59637561
Empires tend to make stupid decisions before they disappear forever
>>59637561
>commie
fuck off
russia is not communist since 1991
and if you truly belive that china is communist to this day you are a retard
>>59640777
Can some economist tell me how producing something internally could ever be a mistake?
A FUCKING RAMP!
RAMP
A
M
P
have the english became poor or why cant they afford a catapult system
>>59640867
If you exclude the memetardy, i.e >ramp, the QE class wasn't a mistake. She's a very good decision.
It's a good way to use a good chunk of the budget so there won't be cuts for the following year, it'll stimulate industry and provide jobs, and it's not radical/different enough to provoke reaction from green/peacefags. Good idea, 2bh.
>>59641020
Steam catapult uses the steam made by nuclear engine. This glorified fishing boat does not have one and no one AFAIK has made working electoric catapult yet.
>It'll only be operational by 2020
Yeah, I'm sure Russia is terrified
>>59641020
>have the english became poor
Yes
>>59641071
Well, they were being built already under the previous government, but good thing they'll actually be used instead of being mothballed to save a few shekels like Cameron wanted.
TWICE
>>59641020
The Royal Navy wanted to operate the F35B because it allows the navy and RAF to share aircraft and aircrew between each other.
It also reduces cost, maintenance time and allows for a higher sortie rate.
Crossdecking between other F-35B nations is also a thing.
For steam catapults you'd preferably have nuclear power and the yanks hadn't got EMALS working (major reason why the Ford class has be delayed) or costs under control.
>>59641194
Poverty has nothing to do with it.
Royal navy wanted the continuation of operating STOVL aircraft as they had proved their worth during the Falklands.
Trying to keep costs down and availability up is a very reasonable thing.
Declaring war on France desu
>that cu.ckramp
>>59640947
Cost vs benefit and opportunity cost.
You can build a big gold statue of yourself or something similarly stupid, but the labor, capital and time could have gone in something more useful in the long run.
>>59641456
Half the carrier crew will be women. British househusbands will wave with their wives sons as the ship departs.
The weak spot is laughably obvious. Just hit the supply boat carrying earl grey. GG, huge boat sinks in a week.
>>59641681
>The weak spot is laughably obvious. Just hit the supply boat carrying earl grey. GG, huge boat sinks in a week.
DELET
>>59637561
Airstrip 1 dumping their entire budget into another floating fortress, huh?
>>59641773
Nah, both ships were £6.2bn out of a yearly budget of £45bn.
A
>>59641901
Really Pierre, you shouldn't criticise her as you were looking to buy the class up until 2013.
>>59641977
Ski jumping when out of fashion here.
>>59642137
Was it ever in fashion over there?
>>59641754
>crowd of angry sailors rioting on the landing strip and blocking planes from taking off or landing because they didn't get their daily tea injection
It's like pottery.
>>59641901
FUCKING
>>59637561
>that ramp
not again
JUST
the fuck is this ramp meme
I haven't been visiting this shithole for months
>>59642894
Did you enjoy the sunshine brother?
>>59642894
>months
Truly summer has started.
>>59642894
They don't have that dank meme on /r/int ?
>>59642941
if it's older then it's 4+ years older
>>59643151
What?
>>59638855
I would like to know if Japan can dodge British sub launched nukes.
>>59641108
The new Ford Class carriers uses an electromagnetic launch system.
>>59644971
And is it operational? Nope.
Ford has been severely delayed because of it.
I think that's what the Finn was saying.
>>59637561
>China and Russia only have one shitty carrier each
>>59637561
>As english men are too pussified these days [21], the aircraft carrier will be manned exclusively by pakis [22]
Interesting
>>59646800
proofs
>>59637561
Holy shit, I am impressed
I better stop bullying brits on /int/
>>59646867
It's right here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Aircraft_Carrier#Manginas
>>59637561
The cutest!
>>59647019
This is that fabled Teutonic humor, yes?
>>59647054
Page does not exist.
Ironic that Italy is making jokes about cowardice.
>>59647249
>Page does not exist.
Dude you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
>>59647342
Oh I'm well aware you are pulling my leg.
>>59647210
>>59641364
>Royal navy wanted the continuation of operating STOVL aircraft as they had proved their worth during the Falklands.
Basing equipment on a war fought 40 years ago in a tiny theater of operations against a vastly inferior opponent.
Sound choices.
>>59647734
>Cuck_and_Bull.jpg
>>59637561
Memes aside it looks like a pretty nice carrier. Though it's weird seeing 50 year old helicopters on a brand new carrier. When are we gonna come out with some newer shit?
>>59647766
Are you deliberately trying to misconstrue my words? You also are underplaying the importance that the Falklands war had. It had a impact on the US navy and their own approach.
And no, Argentina wasn't a "vastly inferior opponent", they were considered a peer force.
>>59647766
we based our equipment around two irrelevant and aimless conflicts instead, great trade off
>>59647214
you are very smart, my american friend
>>59647734
LITTLE
>>59637561
Think twice about building a carrier like this?
>>59648177
>British navy fallen so low Argentines considered a peer force
How does it feel to hit rock bottom and them keep going down
>>59637561
>a
>fucking
>ramp
>>59650747
Saying shit like this only makes you seem ignorant.
>The Falklands War was the first modern anti-access/area-denial (A2/AD) war, pitting a joint expeditionary force against a regional power with modern land, air, and sea capabilities fighting over control of territory close to home. As such, it may prove far more relevant for the future … than any conflict in the past two decades. -- Commander Jim Griffin, Proceedings Magazine, May 2012
Argentina had a modern well equipped force during the 80s, kindly provided by the UK, USA and France to ensure the commies didn't take over.
>russian navy
>chinese navy
RRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMP
>>59650747
I wouldn't say it was exactly a peer force, but they had modern western equipment in the 80's
Now they still have western equipment that was considered modern in the 80's
>>59651174
The only real let down the Argentines had the chunk of the army was poor, young conscripts.
But that's not really why the war is considered important.
>>59651323
yup
if their army was motivated beyond any sort of nationalism and managed well, I think we may have lost the islands
>>59647792
The Special Relationship: A Cuck & Bull Story
>>59637561
>2016
>aircraft carriers
First time it fights a competent enemy, it will go straight to the bottom.
>>59637561
Hello this is TU 160 and he like to see ships and carriers from troposphere.
>>59656216
What is better than aircraft carriers then?
>>59638855
When Japan would want to start a war without America permission, Japan will be nuked again. Sorry buddy but Japan out of big wars games for today.
>>59656454
Can russia still afford to fly them?
>>59637561
*thinks twice*
?
>>59656968
They are experts at waging war when their country/economy is fucked.
>>59656968
>Can russia still afford to fly them?
ISIS can answer on your questions, and also ask them what they are prefer X55 or FAB 9000.
>>59644971
Can't use*
>>59646287
>Liaoning
>shitty
Second best operating class
>>59657468
Second hand 1980s soviet "aircraft carrying cruiser" incapable of operating away from shore
>People making fun of a ramp.
Just good old fashioned British ingenuity; a great design with a simple and cost effective method. We did invent the Aircraft carrier after all, using only sticks and glue.
>>59642582
RAMP
what is this carrier meme? aren't they pretty easy to destroy?
>a floating ramp
Scary
>a ramp
I mean... like India or Thailand?
>>59637561
>catering section
>28,800 rashers of bacon
Haram
>>59637561
Goddamn it, do we have to do everything for you guys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PItPL7EZEc
>>59637561
>ramp
>>59637561
How are we commies?
Or have you not heard?
>>59637561
>there's no pool or shopping center
Shit cruise ship
>>59662472
They are, the power of modern attack submarines is largely untested and exercises show that since anti-submarine warfare is very difficult, it is very hard to stop a sub from sinking a carrier.
See this for example: http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/162488/how-a-30_year-old-french-sub-sank-a-us-carrier-group.html
>>59650747
The Americans even said that it would be impossible for the British to mount a successful retake of the islands.
Thanks for having faith in us you fat fucks.
>>59650747
love it when dumb cunts like this get BTFO
>>59671148
>how do wargames work
>>59637561
Will Britain's new aircraft carriers save Britain from mudslime taking over?
>>59673347
No, they're pathetic on purpose so that when the muslims overthrow the current anglo government they don't inherit any useful military equipment.
building carriers seems like a really retarded move considering that a hard counter now exists that pretty much makes them obsolete. look up df-21d and WU-10 / df-zf missiles for more info.
here's a video with pretty music and graphics for the americans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_GHE2DjsqQ
>>59656454
b..brother?
>>59675920
If a country doesn't keep building carriers then that knowledge will be lost. Look how difficult it is for Russia and China to build a decent carrier.
SUPERIOR BRITISH TECH
>>59676515
>If a country doesn't keep building carriers then that knowledge will be lost.
This. It's to continue to keep people in these skilled jobs to build them, and to keep the skills in the navy to operate them, as well as to pass them down to the next generation and beyond.
>>59637561
>still has a ramp
AhahahahaAHAHAHAHAHA
>>59637561
>Half the ships components are built by American companies
This is just easy to digest Conservative party propaganda which is what the Torygraph puts out in both their printed version and their website.
