>used to be the largest country in Europe
>now it's one of the smallest
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET REKT TREACHEROUS SCUM
LITWINAS
JEDZAS
GOWNAS
>>59596874
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>59596874
This is what I call KEKED
Chachachacha
>>59596874
You and lithuanians should have just tolerate orthodoxy and make good relations with Musqovy but you fucked everything up.
Why so mean Pooland?
>>59597137
no we should just have burnt Moscow to the ground when we had a chance and kill all its population
>>59597137
Nah, fuck Russia.
Better rich and degenerate (a la EU) than poor and degenerate.
lol Lithuania btfo
>>59597194
>>59597191
We could form an alliance and nobody would be poor since there would be no endless wars. Eastern Europe would become something great.
>>59597203
african flag
>>59597255
>no endless wars
>Russia
You would then just war with Germany. Your country simply can't have friendly relations on equal terms.
>>59597255
no it would be better to just murder all the russians
eastern europe wouldn't be rich anyway but much better without these retards with their great economic concepts
>>59597338
When your "friendly" neigbour tries to capture your capital and grab every land he can every moment he can it's hard to be peacefull.
>>59597380
You literally just described Russia. Congrats.
>>59597380
are you talking about Muscovy?
>>59597360
Sadly for you it was just impossible, creating an alliance though was realistic option.
>>59597409
When was the time Poland didn't try to grab land or fight with Muscovy before partitions?
>Poles pretending PLC was peacefull in any meaning of this word.
And yet you call Khmelnickiy a traitor lmao
>>59597452
>Sadly for you it was just impossible
nah, our rulers were just fucking pussies
>creating an alliance though was realistic option.
>alliance
>with Russia
an alliance where your tsar would be ruling all of the """""""""""'allied"""""""""""" countries?
>>59597566
Yes, just like that.
>nah, our rulers were just fucking pussies
No, they just weren't almighty gods and got rekd.
>>59597499
>implying PLC ever wanted to conquer the Duchy of Muscovy
>implying the Duchy of Muscovy wasn't the one to start extremely agressive and expansionist policy, aiming to conquer all of Kievan Rus' lands
nice revisionism
>>59597641
It was PLC who was holding huge amount of lans with people that were speaking an alien for PLC language with alien religion. And PLC didn't just want, it tried to conquer Muscovy. Did you forget 1612?
>>59597639
>Yes, just like that.
you can go fuck yourself with such """""""""""'alliance"""""""""""""
>No, they just weren't almighty gods and got rekd.
nope, it's just even when we were winning we didn't even try to capitalize on that
also our kings never aimed to conquer Moscow, when we captured it in 1610 it wasn't even official king's expedition
>>59597747
>also our kings never aimed to conquer Moscow, when we captured it in 1610 it wasn't even official king's expedition
Oh thanks, that changes a lot, I mean like nothing.
>you can go fuck yourself with such """""""""""'alliance"""""""""""""
This attitude is the reason Poland dissapeared for a century.
>nope, it's just even when we were winning we didn't even try to capitalize on that
You simply had not enough forces and integration in your state.
>>59597719
>It was PLC who was holding huge amount of lans with people that were speaking an alien for PLC language with alien religion
according to r*ssians "holding lands they claim for themselves" is agressive towards them
it's like in this post you can clearly see what Russians are - agressive, expansionist imperialists
>>59597719
>an alien for PLC language
anything but alien
Lithuanian was much more "alien"
>And PLC didn't just want, it tried to conquer Muscovy. Did you forget 1612?
it was some polish nobles
as I said our kings were retarded, they never tried to take the opportunity, they were unable to capitalize on their victories
>>59597191
>>59597360
>>59597446
>>59597566
>>59597641
>>59597747
It's time to stop posting.
1. PLC was in top 5 economies of the world.
2. Most advanced country of its time, too bad retarded system crashed it down.
3. Not annexing Teutonic lands after they got wiped out was a mistake.
4. Letting Ivan the Terrible go because pope said so was another mistake
5. in a 1v1 war, there was no match for PLC
6. It wouldn't colappse if it had central, absolute power.
7. People of PLC ought to be polonized quicker.
>>59597840
>This attitude is the reason Poland dissapeared for a century.
but according to your reasoning we didn't dissapear at all we were just """"""""""""""""""""""'allied""""""""""""""""""""""'"" with you
>You simply had not enough forces and integration in your state.
we easily could have enough forces with a population over 10m+, but our rulers were unable even to execute traitors
>>59597955
>PLC was in top 5 economies of the world.
nice meme
>>59598013
Before full blown colonization?
1600-1630 was easily in top 5.
>>59598054
What happened
>>59598599
golden era died off :DD
>>59598054
Is this accurate? The US is that high up that early on? I suppose with the gold rush and hitting oil, but damn our population wasn't nearly as high as most of the others
>>59598599
Communism
Which made us 100 years behind niggers and 50 years behind West.
>>59598599
poles were pussies
instead of establishing absolutism and murdering ruskies they were playing with """"""democracy""""'" """"""tolerance""""""""""'
>>59598717
It's not accurate at all.
The US was actually the largest economy in the world around 1900 though.
>>59598741
so the west is 50 years behind niggers?
wait, i see your point now
>>59598799
>It's not accurate at all.
t. i don't know what I'm talking about
>>59598874
these are just projections they aren't accurate at all
I like panslavism
>>59599064
Your life is just a projection and not accurate at all.
>>59597191
dance you fat fuck
>>59599087
panslavism would be good but without the russians, for them it's just imperialism
>>59599478
Panslavism would be good if you excluded the Orthodox Slavs, who are without exception just poor, warmongering, genocidal trash.
>>59599595
that's true, they are nothing more than human trash
>>59599595
But Andy Warhol
>>59599943
What about him? He was Greek Catholic.
>tfw no protestant or catholic union between PLC-Sweden under the vasa dynasty
>>59600098
Wait you're right what the fuck
>>59600178
I don't think Sweden wanted any union