What is your honest opinon on EU?
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>>59548217
Cool idea, bad execution.
Kind of like USSR, but not as bad.
>>59548217
Shit like your country.
>>59548267
this
>>59548217
fuck the eu
See ya later Boys!
23rd of June lads
>>59548217
I want out before turkey joins
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/16/turkey-visa-deal-will-increase-risk-of-terrorist-attacks-eu-repo/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Fuck the EU
Useful community turned undemocractic, regulationist money drain tumor.
Worst is when EU shills claim Europe can't exist peacefully and productively without the EU.
>>59548539
FUCK THE EU
I feel like a virgin during conversation about how is vagina taste like.
>>59548217
BIG BULLSHIT
>>59548267
is like URSS but Germany = Moscow
Brexit when? and spexit? xd
>>59548217
We should expel all countries that do not conform to the criteria clearly written out in the Maastricht Treaty.
>>59549029
Also: fuck the Schengen Agreement.
fuck the EU
>>59548566
i genuinely hope they won't give us visa-free travel. so we can keep sending syrians subhumans to your continent.
I genuinely don't hate anything in the world as much as I do the EU.
The idea that you would secede sovereignty to faceless bureaucrats in another country is unbelievably astonishing.
OUT BEFORE TURKROACHES GET IN
>>59549155
What's the difference? If Turks don't get visa free travel Erdogun can just keep sending them to Europe as illegal immigrants, but if they/you do he can still send them to Europe as visa free traveling legal Turkish citizens.
>>59548217
DEATH TO THE EMPIRE!
>>59548217
Not doing its job (fucking up Russia) good enough.
Lessen the control the central organisation has over member states. Forcing member states to take in refugees was never part of the deal when joining it. Otherwise it's been nothing but positive.
>>59549399
That's NATO's job.
>>59549300
i don't think think we can send syrians with visa-free tourist travel. and no, we don't consider them "refugees", they have no rights here, even if they stay here 10000 years they won't get citizenship.
as i said i prefer syrian-free turkey over shitty visa-free travel to shitty eu.
>>59549406
No one likes the immigrants and the quotas so let's lessen control. But oh wait, no one likes Greece and the denbts either so lets increase control. Which one is better?
>>59549437
Why can't it be EU's job too? The monster must go down.
>>59549512
Because the EU, correct me if I'm wrong, is essentially a free trade union. The only way for the EU to "fuck up" Russia would be through trade embargoes, ultra high tolls and overall encapsulating itself from Russia. Which is what it's doing already.
>http://eeas.europa.eu/cfsp/sanctions/docs/measures_en.pdf
Necessary shit. I hope one day humanity will see there are better ways of making people united. Not even one unity in this world is sane. I have some good ideas, but I am just one human with utopic views
It's nice.
>>59549665
>Because the EU is essentially a free trade union.
>bureaucratic mess full of communist agenda
>free trade union
>>59549481
The refugees wouldn't be a problem if they were sent away.
But Germany and Sweden take them in and when they prove too much to handle then they make everyone else take some.
>>59549991
this
We have lost a great opportunity, now it's a huge mess.
>>59549991
>>59550079
>bureaucratic mess
Yes. Old news.
>full of communist agenda
Provide some examples.
>>59550375
>Provide some examples.
refugee quotas
>>59549446
no dude we want the visa free deal
syrians will never become turkish citizens anyways but the kurds will go over and apply for asylum, hundreds and thousands of them
>>59550375
>Old news.
it's gonna be old news when this shitty union is gone
>Provide some examples.
all major figures being linked to communist parties isn't enough?
>>59550484
>refugee quotas
Those aren't a thing as of yet. And really, the EU isn't build on principles governing refugees and possible quotas, it's a one off drastic measure.
>>59550590
>all major figures being linked to communist parties
What?
>isn't enough?
Tone down the cunt factor a bit.
>>59548844
You mean spixit
>>59548267
This
>>59550710
>Tone down the cunt factor a bit.
I will once this shitty union is gone
>>59548217
>What is your honest opinon on EU?
My opinion is the same as the Icelanders.
Pic related.
>>59550849
>Nie tak
>No yes
Which is it?
>>59548217
>>59548267
bad idea, even worse execution
sure, it could be powerful, but powerful countries are often shitty places to live in
the only people who support it are infants who want muh next roman empire and shiet
>>59549987
Motherfucker .
>>59548217
Burn it to the fucking ground!
>>59550882
You don't have to be a linguistic guru to guess what that means really.
>>59548217
It should only exist as a trade union, no schengen bullshit, monetary union and shit like that. You have to be rather insane to mash so many different countries and cultures into one big state. What does a Swede have in common with a Bulgarian? Or a Spaniard with a Slovenian?
>>59550882
No, thanks!
its shit,piss,blood and rotten garbage juice.
like every kike spawned "union" in history leading up to today.
if it's got a star in it, you'll end in failure.
fucked ever since we joined.
come to think of it, every union ever goes to shit as soon as croatia joins it
>>59550991
Also, Slovenia should be in union with V4 and Croatia and also maybe Austria, but they would probably prefer a union with Germany/Swizterland
>>59551118
You joined it at the worst time possible.
>>59551166
you know we could have joined 10 years earlier if you'd fucking let us.
>>59551195
I'm pretty sure you didn't met the criteria to join in 2006.
>>59550732
Underrated kek
I love it.
>>59551261
IIRC Croatia was going to join in 2007, I even remember news saying how we're breaking the record for the fastest negotiation and joining of EU, the first of which was Slovakia.
But then shit happened, and now we're here.
>>59548217
Pure evil.
Communism though bribery.
>>59548387
t. greek
It's great, could be greater.
>>59550882
pretty obvious
Even if Brexit fails, it going to crash hard in the near future.
The plans for the EU army and one-state are simply too up in the clouds. The cultures of Europe are way too different for any government to control it all. It would be a mess of coalitions that never do anything until the bubble bursts.
>>59548217
Nuke it from orbit.
>>59548267
yeah don't worry we'll get there.
This time germans convinced millions of people to walk thousands of kilometers to get to Auschwitz.
They're getting better at this every time.
>>59551195
>implying Slovenia gets to decide shit within the EU
>>59548217
It started well enough, but since then it's just been getting consistently worse.
>>59548631
underrated post
>>59552256
it did before
>>59549665
Yeah, it is but I just want to see Russians gone.
>>59548217
it's a shit idea with even shittier execution
>>59548217
Europe cucked by Germany once again
Literally only lower class scum oppose the EU
It was brought probably the most peace to our continent for hundreds if not thousands of years
>>59553562
nope, that would be nukes. If something like the EU was attempted without that we would be in the midst of World War III either as we speak or in recent memory.
>>59553675
>our continent
>nukes
wew
We finaly got our Reich
>>59553405
t. Not in the EU Johannesen
>>59553737
I'm not even sure what you're referring to. We have them, Russia has them, and France has them. That, combined with Germany basically being cucked out having a military, pretty much means there is no threat of any major European power waging anything other than irrelevant proxy wars. The peace since 1945 (which isn't even something that truly exists, there have been conflicts, albeit nothing like the ones we used to have) has nothing to do with the EU, and I'm not even somebody that is that strongly in favour of leaving.
>>59553675
>nope, that would be nukes. If something like the EU was attempted without that we would be in the midst of World War III either as we speak or in recent memory.
well, the EU has still undoubtedly brought peace to this continent. Nuclear weapons have been around for a while but we still have wars dont we, yea one in europe cant happen anymore because of nukes but its for more reasons than just that
>>59553771
Yes, and because of that our economy consists entirely of fishery. Our biggest trade partner is unironically Russia. We would literally be third world without Denmark.
>>59548217
A disaster, will collapse eventually, will drink Champagne when it does.
>>59548267
This can be said about almost every project of modern history.
>>59553901
see >>59553882
Inter-European relations are worse than they have been in decades, btw. Also wars do happen in Europe, there just aren't ones involving the major powers, who can't wage war against each other without mutually assured destruction anymore, with the exception of Germany.
>>59553882
I was referring to the possibility of one EU country using a nuclear weapon against another EU country. On our continent. That is just completely absurd.
>>59554159
You completely rule out the possibility of conventional warfare without the use of nuclear weapons.
>>59554280
You don't need to use a nuclear weapon when there are already nuclear power plants on the ground waiting to get blown up
>>59548566
Turkey is never joining
>>59554280
>I was referring to the possibility of one EU country using a nuclear weapon against another EU country. On our continent. That is just completely absurd.
So is the thought of any nuclear power actually nuking another nuclear power. It deters war regardless.
>You completely rule out the possibility of conventional warfare without the use of nuclear weapons.
When has that happened post-1945 between nuclear powers? There can be Irish terrorist campaigns, Balkan conflicts, and Russian irredentism, but as long as none of the traditional European powers (UK, France, Germany, Russia, possibly Italy) are directly involved in conflict with each other it can fairly be said that peace in Europe is being maintained.
>>59554440
That's true, but you still need to account for radiation damage... not so far away.
>your opinion on eu
where is the australian guy who is saving my comments as a picture
>>59554475
I think, pardon if wrong, that you are attributing the nuclear arms race mentality shared by U.S.A/Russia to European countries and that is wrong. The main reason why European countries are not going to go to war with each other is economy.
>When has that happened post-1945 between nuclear powers?
Regardless of there being nuclear powers... the fact that conventional war hasn't happened supports the claim of "Pax Europaea" being attributable to the concept of EU just as the original anon you replied to claimed. You're moving in circles in your logic.
>>59554159
The EU helped create a common european identity thus brought peace to this continent
>>59550484
We have an opt out from the quotas
>>59554696
>and that is wrong.
Why is that wrong? Your argument is that European countries just suddenly dropped a thousand years of hostilities arbitrarily or because of some political union (which has never in history been something that definitively stops conflict between nations before). I'm giving a definitive reason. There is no reason why mutually assured destruction isn't applicable to countries besides the US and Russia. Do we have different nukes than them or something?
>>59554703
>a common european identity
not once, in a single discussion about the EU on this board, has anybody ever actually explained to me properly what this is without using useless buzzwords like "Greco-Roman" or "enlightenment thinking". In fact, all I see is European countries that once had absolutely nothing to do with each other like Germany and Greece or the UK and Bulgaria/Romania developing antagonistic relationships and finding reasons to dislike each other.
It should be a union for rich countries where each country can support its self without the support of the union, but they have a better existence within the union
It's globalist neoliberalism at its worst (or best if you ask a lobbyist or a bureaucrat).
>>59555004
I'm saying the reason was not arbitrary, but very rational and calculated: economy. By the 21st century our economies are so intertwined that it would be a complete economic catastrophe if even the slightest conflict between us would take place. No one wants this, it's insane to even think about it.
The point about nukes: I am fairly certain, call me naive if you must, that nuclear disarmament is a thing held more close to heart by European countries that many other countries in the world, among those the ones with actual nuclear capabilities.
>>59548217
Jew's EU4 gameplay IRL
>>59555004
as in we're all europeans let's not fight each other let's fight the world. lets make a cool kids club and trade with each other and integrate n shit
The EU is a Zionist conspiracy led by Merkel and Juncker to destroy Europe by mass immigration.
>>59555247
Its more "our economies rely on each other, despite some members being so-called "big guys" it would be extremely painful for everyone if there was a was a war, more so than if we weren't in a union"
>>59555502
This is probably the first context where the Bane references are truly fitting.
>>59548575
History has proved it can't.
>>59550484
>Taking in refugees = Communism
lel
>>59555502
So that also means that one has to give one's sovereignity to faceless undemocratic and unelected bureaucrats who are bought out by various lobbies?
>>59555802
To my understanding the claim was: the quotas represent a system where everyone gets a fair share. This resonates with the good old quote:
>From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs
A liberal version of the Third Reich.
>>59555502
>our economies rely on each other
great, only problem with that is that
>a) they only are because we have made them that way with the EU
and
>b) in no other part of the world is free trade connected to ceding sovereignty to unelected foreign officials and guaranteed free movement of peoples
>>59555891
Yes, just like a macroscopic version of how sovereign states actually work.
>>59555502
>so-called "big guys"
for them
but not for the rest of the world, together we still are more powerful in the EU than say the US or China (largest single market, 500 mil etc. )
>>59556032
the UK and Germany are the fifth and fourth largest economies in the world, respectively. What manner of absolute horseshite have you been fed about this topic?
>>59548217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0
>>59552039
GERB out please
>>59556142
And the rest of us poor mainlanders are just "the mask" for Germany, the "big guy" :D
>>59556142
could the UK or Germany on its own command the influence the EU does
>>59548217
you are ruining it with gays and muslims.
The fact that the us is pushing for the eu so much is suspect
Its a whining ground for the unhappy euros. Something is wrong --> blame the EU and it's faceless non-elected rulers.
Which means that when you own country's politicians make unpopular decisions, they can automatically blame it on the whole EU.
>oh shit we fucked our economy
>i-i-its germany's fault
>indeed
>we have taken too many pakis and other brown people in our country
>d-d-damn EU and it's multikulti
>you said it!
>>59556208
so let's have free trade and remove the whole parliament in Brussels, common currency, and open borders for illegal immigrants part. We already don't have two of those three and are doing just fine.
>>59556299
give me one example of the EU as a unified body exerting influence on the rest of the world as a whole. It doesn't happen. The EU is a weak, unstable frankenstein's monster of different nations that have absolutely nothing to do with each other when not compared to completely alien places such as Asia or Africa. There is a reason why the US is probably the biggest supporter of European "integration" on the planet, and that is because they see it as utterly unthreatening and it only makes things convenient for them as they have to make less phone calls to less national leaders whenever they go ahead with something.
THANKS FOR YOUR MONEY SUCKERS HAHAHA
>>59548217
Sounds good in theory but I feel they've messed it up
If the UK wasn't already in I certainly wouldn't be clamoring to join
Before the refugee crisis and the way it's been handled I was prepared to overlook some of the bad aspects because of the economic benefits but to me it now seems the EU has a clear agenda
>>59556547
>give me one example of the EU as a unified body exerting influence on the rest of the world as a whole
USD/EUR
>>59556547
>give me one example of the EU as a unified body exerting influence on the rest of the world as a whole
the EU sanctions on Russia are what has put it on it's knees
America alone enforcing sanctions wouldn't do much as they weren't that large trading partners
Personally I'd prefer no sanctions on Russia as it's done damage to the European and UK economies but that's another issue entirely
>>59556779
>Personally I'd prefer no sanctions on Russia
I would too. I would earn a hell of a lot more money.
>>59556779
>the EU sanctions on Russia are what has put it on it's knees
are they? Because as far as I've seen it has had absolutely no effect on Russian foreign policy whatsoever, and it was something Putin 100% knew would happen if he went ahead with Crimea, so is therefor not a deterrent.
>>59548387
This
>>59556879
The sanctions have destroyed the Russian economy
15% inflation, currency devalued so much minimum wage is now the equivalent of 40 pence an hour etc.
>>59557134
Oil prices did, not the sanctions.
>>59556879
The effect is economical not a direct and obvious change in policies. No one expected Putin to change his policies (I think, might be wrong), but the oil economy which drives his war industry has been crippled. Military spending has been cut heavily and technological imports are closed off. Check the list of sanctions, you will find many, many of them have something directly or indirectly to do with the war industry. The shit that reaches the media about people not getting French cheese or what ever is insignificant "noise" or information pollution. And about Putin knowing beforehand about the sanctions? I'm fairly certain his bet was against European Union being in unison about them, which, if you think back to the beginning phase of his great epic"war" was about to be a reality because no one wanted to lose money...
>>59556674
we dont even have to take refugees wtf
>>59556182
Underrated post
Not even the economic arguments for remain stand up to reality.
The only arguments left that in favour of the EU are ideological ones based on notions of a common humanity or some other equally intangible notion.
>>59556879
do you not see the CRAZY ROUBLE THREAD #2183 in the catalog at this very moment
>>59552153
The lost the train when they choose a fag over Blair as President. At least a public politician known face would have helped the cause. Is all full of failed politicians and german puppets 'earning' 6000€ a month.
>>59557192
Yeah but in 5 years or so they'll have EU passports and complete free movement, no reason to think more won't come either
EU make brits clean their butt holes by pound notes so that their queen look everyone's ASSHOLE HAHAHAHAAAHAH
>>59557346
worst post ive seen in my life
Could have been good but the Germans ruin it like they always do.
Not even memeing
>>59556547
>US is probably the biggest supporter of European "integration" on the planet, and that is because they see it as utterly unthreatening
because they are by far the only superpower right now and would prefer the whole of the west and its allies to be strong with the balance of power shifting elsewhere in the coming century?
>>>/pol/
EU has no power.
If they had, they would have stopped our chancellor from letting the muslim plague in.
>be eurokek
>oh man I sure hate tolls and border checks
>so let's donate our sovereignty to a faceless undemocratic hellspawn
>>59557407
But it's true. Why do you hate trueness :(
>>59557538
The jokes on you will still have passport controls and border checks but still have to let in anyone with a European passport kek
![No-thanks[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4tEgZoE.jpg "No-thanks[1].jpg")
>>59548217
regulatory patronizing statist's wet dream
>>59557345
its very difficult to get a german passport
>>59557512
>One interesting consequence of women’s lack of interest in a group’s collective identity is that it may lead to important sex differences in group-related outcomes. For example, if women value a group based only on their attachment to individual members of that group, then their group membership may be less stable than men’s. Prentice et al. (1994) suggest that groups with strong common identity attachments may last longer because their existence is less contingent on good relations between current group members. It is possible that this extends to individual group membership as well. The importance that men place on a group’s identity may result in greater longevity and stability in the face of changing group membership. If common bonds dissolve, men may remain in a group for its sense of common identity, whereas the group would lose all value for women.
>What is the practical meaning of this? Women care mostly about close people, their “circle” , and not about larger groups based on common identity. If her lover is from another group, then she will (most likely) no longer care about her original group (her ethnicity).
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2016/05/02/male-vs-female-forms-of-group-cohesion/
>>59548217
Literally Hitler
>>59548217
It's better than war.
>>59548267
this
it's not the thing we want, but the thing we need
>>59548631
ayyy
>>59555999
fucking checked
>>59548217
EU bureaucrats would rather let Muslim skunks into Germany and give 'em free money than let me into Poland for a fucking week without it being a huge pain in the ass.
>>59558039
About time, thanks buddy!
>>59557407
I can only apologise.
>>59548602
>"We must build a kind of United States of Europe."
http://www.churchill-society-london.org.uk/astonish.html
Anti EU fags getting btfo and on suicide watch
Long live the EU
>>59548217
It's imperfect. But since the alternative is much worse the only way forward is to try to improve the EU, democratize it more etc.
>>59559362
kill yourself
>>59548217
It's a bureaucratic nightmare which is purposefully obfuscating and outright hiding the process in which laws and regulations are created. It is undemocratic at its very core. The European Parliament is a farce; merely a charade to hide those truly in power.
It's a socialists dream, where literally everything can be regulated and controlled in a heavy-handed top-down fashion.
It is protectionist to the point of it hurting developing nations and indeed the nations it seek to protect through tarries, legislation and other barriers to entry. The bureaucratic nature of the monstrosity that is the EU has perverted the free trade initiative that it started out as. The union at this stage is very anti free market and the lack of fair competition is going to bit the member states in the ass if the practice goes on for any longer.
It allows and indeed enables countries that fiscally irresponsible to continue that practice because it lacks teeth and isn't stable enough to withstand the pressure countries can put on the Euro. And that's the point. This is precisely what the French and Italians wanted when the EU and the Euro was conceived. These countries, though they're not the only ones, have been consistently devaluing their own currencies and when shit hit the fan the found a very easy way out: force the Germans to merge their very successful d-mark with their currencies. As a result a lot of these countries continue with their excessive and ultimately harmful deficit spending, because the more responsible northern Europeans, Germany in particular, are now propping them up.
In short, it's a union that enables irresponsible countries to continue being irresponsible. It's highly undemocratic, in fact it's anti-democratic. It's too bogged down with regulations that stifles competition, harms developing countries and artificially raise prices the end consumer.
I want out and I wish the best of luck to the Brits in their upcoming referendum.
>>59556576
this
>be european
>get EU'd
>>59548575
just look at your history
It sould be a confederation, not a federal state
I won't pay denbts
PS I AM GREEK
>>59548217
yes
>>59548217
They made Irish an official language so it's ok. They need to get rid of the other languages though.
has some good things going on but at the same time way to much bullshit and way too undemocratic
i hope brexit will occur.
People have no fucking idea what the EU is.
ITT all the proof of the above statement you can need.
>>59548217
kick all shit countries out
Europe's attempt at a united states, but every country has too much of an ego for it to ever work properly
>>59576063
try having 20 mexicos around you and then talk about ego lardass
>>59576166
I mean the south does exist and we still have a union. Many southern states are probably worse the mexico
Unrelated, but HOW THE FLYING FUCK DO YOU GET AN EU FLAG ON 4CHAN?!?!?!? Is Europe a country now?
>>59576203
we got africa and the middle east in our backyard americas wars are fucking our hole shit up my family
>>59576260
Yes "Americas wars".
I'll leave it at that because I don't see this conversation staying rational
>>59576247
plus we got the eternal russian in the neighborhood trying to fuck our relationship up with you
>>59550882
Takk doesn't mean yes, it means thank you.
>>59576302
>muh weapons of mass destruction
>destabilize the middle east
you know the rest senpai
>>59576366
I won't waste my time arguing against your indoctrination if you don't waste your time arguing against mine
>>59576410
i got nothing against america but you kinda fucked the whole world up
>>59576063
>>59576166
>>59576366
I don't know if I've ever seen a point proven so quickly
>>59558337
Close to a tribble there too Malta :DDD
>>59576439
thanks i guess...
The fact that MEPS cannot even propose new legislation in the European Parliament reason enough for the whole Political wing to be abolished.
Europe needs a trading block and a few European countries do need free movement (Particularly Benelux where the borders sometimes cross in the middle of a town) but either it should be reformed to be a truly democratic project or it should be abolished.
>>59576627
this guy knows what's up
>>59548217
It's a mafia. As long as the member states had similar wages free movement of workers might have been OK. Now it lead to mass immigration that's only beneficial for land owners and companies in rich countries and beneficial for the immigrants themselves.
Enabling of illegal asylum shopping has never been a good idea. This again is good for the ground rentiers and for the companies. If the illegal asylum shoppers couldn't work, then maybe their children will he able to find jobs.
Free movement of workers and enabling of illegal asylum shopping is both increasing the population for the benefit of the demented rich.
Also the EU court has decided more than once against worker's rights.
>>59576739
Need someone to wash your dishes Simon?
>>59576739
get out of schengen while you still can
>>59576856
The main problem isn't Schengen but the free movement of workers. We could control the borders. Nobody in the EU cares about contracts anyway. They are only paper. So if border controls weren't allowed according to Schengen we could introduce them at any time anway.
But the free movement of workers with the broken EU job market is the biggest problem of Switzerland. A population growth like that of India isn't healthy for my country and its citizens.
>>59576988
the optimal situation would be strong borders in the outskirts of the EU and a free movement of labor inside the EU. But the situation is not optimal drastic times require drastic measures
>>59577124
good luck enforcing those borders without big bad america
>>59577124
>free movement of labor inside the EU.
That's bad. Thanks to treaty of Rome a Belgian could work in Germany and vice versa. Then free movement of workers *might* have been a good idea because the states had similar wages. Portugal for instance wasn't part of it.
>>59576988
I do your dishes for low low prices cut your lawn too Florian
>>59577225
yes and that is why you kick all the poor shitty countries out of the EU
>>59577263
Yes señor senpai kick us please.
>>59577366
your only job was to shoot all niggers the niggers coming over in boats how did you even fail at this simple job?
>>59577263
>Good we don't have to fund those shitty countries anymore?
>Oh no, why aren't our exports fueled by years of intra-continental socialism being dumped on those poor shitty countries anymore??
>Oh no, why have tax flows from private entities in those shitty countries suddenly stopped coming??
And specifically for Germany
>Oh no why is our currency by far the strongest in the world right now??
>>59577415
>be portugal
>have an opinion
>>59577413
Yes, my country is a failed state, Nuke us plssss and stop our suffering!!!
this man is based.
>>59577501
The one thing I've come to realize when interacting with people like you is the true significance of the Bell Curve. A small difference in IQ at the mean of both countries does produce a lot of extra geniuses, but the average Dane is just as much of a fucking dense retard as the average person I interact with everyday.
>>59548217
A liberals wet dream, and I do mean the free-trade, open borders type liberal. It's the end result of the French Revolutions struggle to subvert the nation-states of the Renaissance, the dream of a pan-EU state.
It's also stupid, dangerous, corrupt, and mismanaged, but those are just side notes that are secondary to "muh European identity".
>>59577679
im a dense motherfucker i would never deny that
>>59577794
you're also extremely egotistical for somebody who sits on the computer and argues with strangers all day
>>59556413
you couldnt be more right and wrong at the same time
one currency, one finance ministry/economy
one borderless zone with useless border guards (at austria) one free for all to go to germany and sweden
>>59578018
>America schooling me on egotistical behaviour
wew lad
>>59578080
I mean you just proved my point, yes that is exactly what I'm doing.
>>59578080
Resorting to Whataboutism isn't doing you any favors
>>59578097
>>59578100
>being this assmad
>>59548217
The EU is the Illuminati realized, its an amorphous entity that answers to no one.
The true power still lies in the nation states: the European council, composed of all 28 EU prime ministers. But even then, its the big states that call the shots, first germany decides, then france follows, then the UK, and all the other sheep behind them.
The EU is a veil pulled over your eyes, to make you believe the era of European great powers and their "great game" for control of Europe is over. Its not.
You've all been had by a marketing trip and clever rebranding
>>59578214
Ran out of things to say?
>>59578080
>Roleplaying countries
>>59578259
Why did you claim Denmarkanon was egotistical?
>>59578259
you're calling me egotistical without refferring to anything what is there to say, you're the butthurt amerilard from before who thinks he can regain his honor by posting baseless accusations
>>59578297
jeg rollespiller skam ikke min ven jeg er pære dansk
>>59548539
Domino D-Day
>>59578334
>>59578354
Because of these posts
>>59577794
>>59577501
>>59577263
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>>59576010
If posting a picture of a time you made a mistake on an anonymous imageboard isn't the epitome of egotistical I'm not sure what is.
>>59548539
see you right back here nobody makes it alive out of this union, they're expecting somebody in the wreckage and it might as well be you
>>59555760
History took place in completely other circumstances with aspects like rising dictatorships, extreme nationalism and countries with great internal conflicts. Today we don't have these or in the worst case to a much lesser extend.
So no, it didn't.
>>59578416
>we're reaching new heights of booty bothering
>>59578634
>took you almost 10 minutes to build up the courage to make this post
Don't worry I'm going to go to bed no anyway, if it makes you feel better this board is a breeding ground for egotistical people like yourself.
>>59578669
Good night, maybe your demented trolls will be successful trolls tomorrow.
>>59578669
i was making a sandwich my obese friend :-DD
