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He is a good prime minister.
Thanks Abe.
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i will always pronounce it like the ab in abraham
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I support Abe too.
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>Asian politics

A literal clown fiesta.

Name one politically non-comical Asian country.
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japanese political affiliation is pointless since they vote for the same people anyway

after koizumi they finally had some change but it was ruthlessly crushed by scandals, either way japanese are mostly apolitical anyway
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>>59538119
Don't make a worthless thread! netouyo!
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>basically no difference in the parties
Why would it matter?
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>prease reproduce
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Abenomics is delaying the inevitable crash.

At least he's trying though.
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Arigato Abe.
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Since when do Japs care about politics?
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>>59538199
What's the correct way of pronouncing it?
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>>59538527

ah bay
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His party is the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan.
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>>59538397
Pedro, you need to be worry about Brazilian politics.
Japanese one is much better than yours at least.
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ok
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>>59538119
YOU NEED TO MAKE MORE BABBIES
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>>59538279
>either way japanese are mostly apolitical anyway
That's actually pretty great, over here everyone's either a fascist or an sjw and it's getting maddening.
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>>59539136
except it was a proper fascist country
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>>59538119
>japanese liberals
>support Abe

(?)
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>>59539197
japanese liberals are economic liberals

they hide their proper lefties
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>>59538355
He's setting up a bubble lmao

>>59538397
They mostly don't.

A vote in their parliament in rural districts is worth 24x what a vote in Osaka is worth.

The supreme court rules the elections illegal and illegitimate every time, but nobody enforces it. Lmao
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>>59538221
I'd rather have a clown fiesta than this pseudo democratic system we have now
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>>59539224
But there's like 4 liberal parties.

Only one, the LDP, supports Abe.

And it's like tea party conservatism. Not "economic liberalism".

Lmao they are using Keynesian policies, negative interest rates, QE 60000 and the economy is still overtly protectionist and anti-immigrant.

So much for "liberal economics."
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>>59539195
I'd take full fascist any day. It's the constant bickering and arguing thats annoying.
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>>59539279
they actually do have a green and a socialist party
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>>59539283
that's kind of the point

the ldp has been ruling japan for 60 years now with little disturbance
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>>59538221

says the country that's about to elect a fucking meme.
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>>59538221
Taiwan.
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>>59539321
the taiwanese fought with fists and chairs in their parliament what you on about
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>>59539331
He said country
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>>59539321
He may be a meme, but he's a much better candidate than Hernie the old Jewish Socialist or Hillary "elect me because I have a snatch" Cunton.
>>59539344
Having a passion to steer your country in a good direction and occasionally having tensions rise =/= uncivilized.
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>>59539321
Fucking kids and hipsters conquered your parliament

Literally red guard tier shit
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>>59539388
it was also a single party rule just like the ldp

they stood for nothing and they ruled through economic sucess
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>>59539388
>Having a passion to steer your country in a good direction

>Taiwan
>country
>good direction
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I'm not Taiwan, this meme is honestly becoming pretty elaborate.
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>>59539350
I bet you think Kosovo is a country because it's full of Turkbanian Muslims.
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>>59539439
it doesn't matter

the point is kmt is not the angel westerners think it is
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>>59539443
Nah they're all non countries
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This thread is so cancer
#thanks_abe
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>>59539439
Okay Burma
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>>59539443
It's literally not a country

It's Albania
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>>59539459

nobody's an angel in politics, that is an axiom, lad. In the grand scheme of things, human history is just a long continuous stream of bloodshed justified by petty reasons; man's violence against himself.
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>>59539541
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I support Abe.
Make Japan great again
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>>59539548
no, "party" in a democracy is what steals power

it takes individual right to opinion and makes a "common interest" which is pointless if you have equal say on a yes or no agenda

party interest always supersede the individual because it is greater and because the party was more leverage with their pooled resources the party can flood the media with all types of low forms of propaganda, real or unreal

basically the party system is anti-democracy in the first place due to the conflict of power

direct democracy or farce
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>>59539607
has* more leverage
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>>59539604
*Make Japan Imperial Again
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I like Abe-chan.
Chinese and Korean call him a nationalist, but it's just a demonstration.
Abe supports an immigrants policy.
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>>59540700
Nothing wrong with ethnic nationalism desu.
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abe is really zainichi corean

We cannot trust him
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>>59539426
>Taiwan
>country
nah m8
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>>59538119
>We
>We
>We

oh my god.

poor esl teacher piece of shit bastard.
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>>59538119
its imposter.
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>>59538203
you are a agent of ldp
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>>59539235
you are right
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Communists and the newspaper Asahi hate Abe.
That's the reason I support Abe.
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>>59541652
no. you are a shitty agent of ldp
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>>59538221
Vietnam.
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>>59541652
What are the "communist's" plans for Japan?
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>>59541717
the JCP is actually a peace party through national sovereignty that rightly believes that american imperialism has stolen japanese soverignty
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>>59538119
he is a grandson of A class war criminal
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>>59538119
panama

hush money 300000000000yen
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>>59541686
>agent
What??? I posted just my personal opinion. Many Japanese hate communists.
個人の意見を書いているだけだ、ボケっ
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>>59541874
but you guys are illegal immigrants...
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>>59538221
>USA
>choose between a morally and financially bankrupt fascist, a morally bankrupt but financially sucessful she-fascist, or maybe an old left-liberal jewish dude masquerading as a "radical socialist"

yeah no
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japans economic policies are fucking awful. a true keynesian nightmare

only good thing about abe is his stance on immigrants.
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Liberalism is cancer. Abe is a total amepochi and should be shot.

Neoliberal policies and structural reform re-create Japanese society to fit MNCs and capitalists while alienating/exploiting the national proletariat, and tinsel foil thin nationalist rhetoric are but distractions from this ironclad reality. Notice increase in income inequality since the 90's! These traitors are agents of American imperialism on one hand and Keidanren crony capitalism on the other.

Until every last yankee zionist bandit liberal "conservative" collaborator dog and every last leftist marxist filth is purged from holy soil, there will be no justice in our land. Return to the Kokutai and purge the soil of pollution.
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>>59538221
Canada
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>>59538119
>Abe
>Good
Holy shit man, the competition must be awful
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he seems cute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnKU5Pd5Rec
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>>59546999
It really is. Many people simply vote LDP out of fear of the opposition, especially given poor performance of DPJ in power.
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>>59539321
>Myanmar

I wonder how many of your people I've mistaken for Taiwanese. Damn near identical flags.
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i've heard a lot about this " abenomics " shit but has it actually worked?

Japan is stagnating like always.
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>>59547377
well google says its taiwan flag WTF???

and myanmar flah is like yellow-green-red colors and a white star on it

whats going on?
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Yamaguchi prefecture rules Nippon since 1868.
Hahaha sorry Fukushima nuke fuckers.
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>>59547476
It's a lot of the good old expansionary monetary/fiscal policy coupled with alleged promises of neoliberal structural reforms. Either way this trickle down stuff is gonna exacerbate income disparity and given limited nature of trickle-down stimulus, might not increase wages enough to stimulate demand across the board.

Perhaps the LDP will cave in to Keidanren demands to relax immigration regulations once the low IR and gov't spending stop working. What a nightmarish world we live in!
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>>59545266
What is SJWism like in Japan? What do they push for?
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>>59538221

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df7jOd6HcIY
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>not supporting glorious NSJAP
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>>59547864
Blind cult worship of the current constitution, LGBBQ rights, anti-racism/hatespeech yadda yadda

They try so hard to be western SJWs (unlike Zengakuren fellows from the good old days who actually made their own signs, SEALDs and so on just rip stuff from Occupy, BLM, Antifa and so on) but they also have a weird fixation for the US-made constitution and extreme anti-militarism such that some of them un-ironically advocate for unarmed neutrality.

They try so hard to copy their western equivalents that sometimes their agit seems quite out of place. For example, the LGBT paradigm barely makes sense in traditional Japanese context since it was constructed in reaction to modern western Judeo-Christian conception of sexuality.

I wonder if they're funded by George Soros or something.
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>>59548214
I've talked to Kazunari online, he's cool but those guys are a tiny tiny splinter within the scene. I think VICE just did that piece because of the striking visuals.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IumkoOmMpTU
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>>59548229
>Blind cult worship of the current constitution, LGBBQ rights, anti-racism/hatespeech yadda yadda
>>59548229
>I wonder if they're funded by George Soros or something.

Kek, that's literally what's happening here.
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>>59548229
So they just waste their time while fighting against nothing?
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>>59545290
nice
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>>59548229
>anti-racism/hatespeech
That seems kinda funny consisting it's from japan which is pretty xenophobic itself. Got any examples like vids/pics m8?

>Blind cult worship of the current constitution
What is the current constitution?
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>>59548356
They don't actually fight against nothing, they actively combat the Abe regime which is laudable, but from a completely ideologically corrupt perspective; that of an idealized late modern liberalism rather than from, say, some kind of national-revolutionary perspective or even a genuinely Marxist one. They need to be hung from trees.

For their part, the neoliberal-collaborationist bonzen paper pushers in the LDP are very good at mobilizing nationalist sentiment (especially nationalism-as-negation-of-the-neigbor rather than some kind of a positive construction of Kokutai) to push through their trickle down econ and pro-US foreign/defense policies. It's a shame many of the oldshirt rightists who survived the war turned to anti-Communist faux liberalism in '45. They need to be hung from lamp posts.
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>>59538119
Liberals support Abe.
Korean and Chinese Han support Communist.
Right wing can't support anyone.
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>>59548229
Japan was never anti gay til the Portuguese came. Sexual relations among the samurai was extremely common and never looked down at.
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>>59548725
Yes, most of Japanese are liberals.
Therefore Abe is supported in Japan.
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>>59548674
>That seems kinda funny consisting it's from japan which is pretty xenophobic itself. Got any examples like vids/pics m8?

Seach for "Sealds デモ" on youtube hahaha

>What is the current constitution?
It was a piece of work written by occupation authorities and then approved by Imperial Diet in '47; the lefties love the bits that uphold popular (as opposed to legitimate, that is to say, Imperial) sovereignty, universal human rights, and pacifism.

Ironically, the pacifist bit served as a pretty good excuse for past Japanese governments to freeride on Yankee defense, (the US wanted Japan to be armed to both serve as bulwark against Communism and to reduce US costs of defending Japan) so I suppose it was fairly convenient at the time. Abe wants to get rid of that and let Japan call it's military a military and constitutionally engage in wider roles, but I think that bit really should not be changed until the nation is liberated from the atlanticist yoke.

This is the bit on pacifism:
ARTICLE 9. (1) Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.
(2) In order to accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized.
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>>59548848
Its so kawaii when Nippon calls us Yankees.
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>>59548928
y'oulls dang ol yankee imperialist better go cross the maison dixon and make yer northern aggression ass back to union territory i tellya huhwhat

14/88
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>>59548848
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BI0GyMJSTuE

I'm centrist myself but I could totally see myself becoming a diehard liberal if these guys were thing convince me to join them desu.
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>>59549351
I hope for your sake that they get you first on the day of the rope.
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>>59538119
What do Asians think about the destruction of the Arabic Race in Asia ?
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>>59549381
Why so mean Japan Senpai???
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>>59549450
Do you mean liberal in katakana, which is what the guys in the video call themselves, or liberal as in 自由主義者 (translation of "liberal") which is what LDP call themselves?

Either way, it's a trash paradigm and needs to be liquidated, purged, etc to purify the nation. Marxism has died so that Liberalism can live; now Liberalism must die so that the Kokutai can be.
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>>59538119
安倍晋三さんはアニメが見ますか
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>>59538221
>Alcoholic nutjob
>Sex in Oval Office
>Iraq War
>All talk and no walk nigger
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>>59549571
B
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F
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>>59549376
>>59549376
>>59549376
>>59549376
>>59549376
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>>59549519
>Do you mean liberal in katakana, which is what the guys in the video call themselves, or liberal as in 自由主義者 (translation of "liberal") which is what LDP call themselves?
What is the difference?

>Either way, it's a trash paradigm and needs to be liquidated, purged, etc to purify the nation. Marxism has died so that Liberalism can live; now Liberalism must die so that the Kokutai can be.

What is Kokutai? Pls don't be rude when explaining my Nip friend.
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>>59549941
So the LDP calls themselves liberal in the classical liberal sense (sort of like how some market oriented but socially conservative people in Europe call themselves "liberal"), and in the sense that they were opposed to the Socialists, whereas the SJW "liberals" call themselves that in the same way Yank libs do.

Kokutai is like Volksgemeinschaft for Japan, is national body politic of nation.
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>>59548229
I hope you Japanese can sort out your whole immigration thing without your SJWs or our SJWs getting involved; they'd make everything exponentially worse with their two-faced, omissive bullshit.
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>>59550021
Will the Kotukai allow handsome Western foreigner immigration jap friend!
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>>59549568
Fffff, no one responds me even in board.
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>>59550021
>>59550099
Forgot to put a question mark at the end.

>>59550120
Fuck off Russia roach. Nobody likes you.
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>>59550485
But I lav spen. This fact makes me human.
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>>59550120
sorry, I was just considering a comment.
I hope some artist critisize ABE-san in their work, even if not intendedly like ZOOTOPIA.
But ad-agent companies dominating whole Anime industory won't never let it be done.
beside, I'm not KOKUTAI sensei preaching above.
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>>59549568
安倍さん自身のコメントによると、ドラマ(国内外共に)を見るのが好きだそうです。
アニメについては特にコメントしていません。

麻生元首相は漫画好きです。これは日本でよく知られています。
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>>59550701
>beside, I'm not KOKUTAI sensei preaching above.
What are you then?

>>59550594
>russian giving me a (you)
Yuck. Im trying to cut back on the alcohol you scumbag! And
>slavic
>human
TOP KEK
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>>59550708
麻生さんの場合はアニメ(動画)でなくて漫画本です
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>>59550799
Japanesn centrist.

beside, Abe won't watch any Anime though for he has no children and Animes thesedays won't get.along his feeling I suppose.
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>>59550708
>>59550820
>>59551123
ありがとうございます
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>>59551123
What is Sealbds?
I mean I get the anti-war/anti-homphobia crap but what else are they about?
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>>59550820
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnXWym1gL0M
14:20
麻生さんはサブカル自体にかなり詳しいと思う
Asou, pre primeminister, know anime and manga well.

He said "Pokemon don't speak but best friend. This is Japanese culture".
True. This is Jomon culture and still maintain in Japan.
Jomon has some idea like communism but those are clearly different from soviet communism.
Such Jomon culture is used in anime many times.
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>>59551422
REEEEEEEEEE ANSWER ME->>59551268
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>>59551525
Phh, subhuman
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>>59551268
I am not a person who have great interest in those issues, but what I barely heard is they were originates as student group of a some sociological professor in a university in Tokyo.
Maybe they had been ordinal youth but maybe the professor could blow idea into them and they thought carrying on some action is chilling.
Then they implemented and made some resonance. Obviously some old lefty dude sneaked into their group, but seems not influence them so much.
Most Japanese regard them as powerless young but have vague sympathy of of dread about amendment of the constitution and to be sold as part-time mercenaries for US.

They might dismiss within years, but I think the leader is likely to become some politician someday.
And at least, they are far acceptable than their counterpart I think.
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>>59538221
Singapore. The PAP has been running the show for 60 years
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>>59551268
http://higan.net/apps/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&id=29
He is one of supporter.
Goyuu Satou
Tibetan Buddhism Nyingma
Researcher of Tibet

But he always say "Tibetan invaded Han before" "You should change mind from propaganda like Han invading Tibet" "Tibetan are not one people. Some come from Han area. Some is Nomad. People of forest is such a ethnic group"

He managed to reduce Han crime.
He managed to increase Tibetan crime.
He managed to show Tibetan is idiot.

Such one become a Tibetan researcher in Nepalese University and support sealds.
Chinese pretend Japanese to make Han great.
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>>59553080
Hmm okay.
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>>59538221
>Implying we are any better.
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>tfw the only country with non-meme politics is Finland
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>>59553835
T I M O
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>>59538119
>we japanese liberals
Why "liberal" exactly? In what way is Abe liberal? What do you japanese liberals consider as being liberal?
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>>59556479
His party is the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan.
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>>59548229
Hmm I want the old Zengakuren back...
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>>59556980
Yeah but why are you "japanese liberals"? What is "being a liberal" in japan? What do you advocate?
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>>59557504
afaik the LDP is everything right from center... so from Conservativ, "neoliberals" to fascists... maybe missing right wing libertarians.
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>>59548848
didnt Abe get rid of that pacifism bit already? I remember seeing it on the news a while ago
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