Is it the right time to restore Commonwealth?
>>59401523
>muh gommonbelt
Giving the same rights to everyone doesn't end well.
Just polonize Ukrainians and bathe any rebellion in blood.
>>59401829
It's like one massacre didn't teach you anything.
Let's "Union of Krewo"
>>59401960
You have no right to exist as a nation.
You're polonized Russians anyway. We were too kind for you.
Try that again and we will massacre your people this time.
>>59401523
Ukraine is a mess and would drag you down so no
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>>59401999
Just keep to this western border
>>59401960
Let's partition Poland again!
>>59402064
Ahmeds are partitioning your women as we speak.
>>59402064
I think Belarus would like it more.
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>>59402083
XDDD ebin meme friend
Now shut up and gib Silesia.
It would fail. Poles are too stupid and primitive too successfully run a country as history proved countless times.
>>59402130
Don't forget the pasta, you attention whore.
Also this one too, pic rel.
>>59401523
take moldova and give me bugeac,
>>59402161
I just stated the truth my butthurt friend
As long as we get to rule half the commonwealth like in old times, I'm okay with this.
>>59402227
You don't take country's matters into public.
You fix everything inside.
Just look what post-commie gov is doing now
Poles...Poles never change
You know what to do, brother.
>>59402295
And you do?
Cossack uprisings = milions of deaths, ends in poverty and Tsar's intervention.
Modern day Majdan = milions of Ukrainians run to fucking Poland, POLAND. Putin's intervention on eastern border.
>>59402344
>Cossack uprisings = milions of deaths, ends in poverty and Tsar's intervention.
Deluge was worth it.
>Modern day Majdan = milions of Ukrainians run to fucking Poland, POLAND. Putin's intervention on eastern border.
Dismantling "post-Soviet space" was worth it.
I knew Polish was difficult, but even some country names don't even seem to resemble the original.
Tbh, Polish academics I know are really nice, especially the head of my former department. Why did I leave academia... Why am I so bad at life, I don't know.
>tfw rumunian
>>59402239
We will establish one polish-lithuanian dynasty that will rule everything - as it's always supposed to be
Can't let you do that, slav fucks.
>commonwealth
>that big, ever
>>59402394
>Deluge was worth it.
Of course it was.
Even more Ukrainians dying, starving. Also, being under Russia was so nice, wasn't it?
Because they didn't even give a shit about your cries. They just put rebellions down in blood.
>>59402457
But Sweden is our greatest ally.
>>59402458
OP's map is wrong.
I'm not even a patriot or nationalist but Ukrainians should be slaughtered and exterminated t-bh. Even worse nation than Poles which is an impressive score.
>>59402550
didn't know PLC controlled latvia desu
>>59401523
We would agree only if capital will be Kiev, it twice bigger than Warsaw anyway.
>>59402618
Duchy of Courland was its vassal.
They also had colonies which is pretty cool.
>>59402618
and half of estonia
it was 1,153,465 km2 at the biggest peak
>>59402618
Latvia existed as Duchy of Courland and Semigalia (if you played CKII they were known as Kurzeme and Zemgale provinces) which was a vassal state of P-L
>>59402113
Even Chechs have more rights to Silesia than germans.
>>59402739
Silesians have the most rights to Silesia you racist Poolack XDDDD
>>59402504
Ukraine must be independent, not a slave to poles nor russians
>>59402777
>silesians
>humans
>>59402781
Look how that worked out for ya.
ANTHEM OF SWEDISH "ARMY" 2030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncie8_lhdgs
>>59402503
>was so nice
At least we have increased our territory several times, Poland instead got under Russia by forse and was divided 4 times.
>>59402913
We got betrayed by the people we considered to be our brothers.
>>59402940
Krul should not be a shlahta's bitch and do something to prevent this.
>>59402671
>and half of estonia
Its called greater Latvia
>>59402940
The case was exactly what was stated in >>59402130
Ukraine was administered by szlachta (and Jews in cities) in such a shitty inhuman way it was fucking obvious sooner or later shit would hit the fan. Just read about it, there is plenty of sources.
>>59403093
Obviously, absolute monarchy would be better.
But then again, serfdom would be similiar to western countries.
>>59403216
Blame kikes and """""democracy""""" then.
>>59403216
Jews were the lowest caste lol.
>>59401523
So let's say...
We grant Ukrainians and Belarusians Polish citzenship at start, let them stay Orthodox and Polonize "softly". - Would they still rebel?
>>59402130
this but unironically
I demand a Lithuanian ruling dynasty, no elections, krokuva can be capital since varšuva is a stalinist abomination now
>>59403505
>I demand a Lithuanian ruling dynasty
but they have to speak polish or latin
>>59403427
Give me one ruler who Ukrainians didn't rebel against.
>>59403471
Sheep leading lions.
>>59403533
within 2 generations after we're all dead
the region has always been a shithole ( inv4 muh feudal kingdoms ) so there's no point in uniting all those shitholes to one
>>59401523
inb4 it works and Poland gets partitioned AGAIN
what is it like the 8th partitionings now already ? damn
>>59403587
>the region has always been a shithole
Gommonbelt was probably in top 5 before colonization.
>>59403624
>damn
AYYYY HOL AP WE WAZ FRENCH N SHIT XD
KARL DE MAYNE RULED DA PARIS AND HE WAS BLACK CROATIAN XD
>>59402105
Ti ne prav.
>>59403427
>let them stay Orthodox
No way, send the normal catholic priests they are so much better than our fat and lazy muh ruzke mir bastards. Orthodox followers are too stupid anyway to understand the difference.
>>59403538
Leonid Kuchma.
>>59403624
>>59403850
You're gonna have to build a lot of Biedronkas.
Commonwealth was shit anyway
You are beter off in EU
>>59404005
Poland has 2 personalities
'FUCK THE EU'
and
'please EU give me the monies'
>>59404025
>'please EU give me the monies'
>>59403814
I meant foreign ruler
>>59401523
Because the first commonwealth totally wasn't a decentralized mess that could barely hold itself together.
>>59404082
It was ahead of its time.
>>59404052
;^)
>>59404100
It gave the nobles so much god damn power that they could sit on their asses not fighting any wars. While the crown had to fight outnumbered more often than not.
I will give the commonwealth one thing. Despite being an administrative mess, the army that actually did fight were top class.
>>59404081
All rulers of Russian Empire except Peter the Great.
>>59404169
the EU money barely cover the cost of additional bureaucracy needed to redistribute them and the regulations hurt our economy and cause millions euro losses. the farmers literally throw away their products to meet some imaginary limits imposed by the EU
>>59404183
You're right about that.
>>59404052
You're welcome
>>59404100
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazimierz_%C5%81yszczy%C5%84ski
>Kazimierz Łyszczyński, also known in English as Casimir Liszinski, was a Polish nobleman, landowner in Brest Litovsk Voivodeship of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, philosopher, and soldier in the ranks of the Sapieha family, who was accused, tried, and executed for atheism in 1689.[1][2]
Wow, so progressive!
>>59401523
commonwealths are cool anon, make it happen
t. member of a commonwealth
> Muh commonwealth
You don't even deserve the title since the only one that matters is still around.
>>59404228
Want to take out dirt?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Zdunk
>was an ethnically Polish alleged arsonist and witch who lived in the city of Rößel, now Reszel in Poland but between 1772 and 1945 part of Prussia. She is considered by many to have been the last woman executed for witchcraft in Europe. This is doubtful because witchcraft was not a criminal offense in Prussia at the time.[1] It is thus likely that she was convicted, formally at least and most probably wrongly, of arson.
>>59404052
uhh, well done proving his point..?
>>59403201
rich coming from Northern Lithuania
>>59404217
yeah fuck the eu for making sure companies don't fuck you over by giving you harmful shit amirite? no consumer protection like the grand old commonmeme days.
>>59404283
You realize everyone else in the EU has to abide by the same regulations. The only difference is Western & Northern Europe is contributing more and getting even lower returns than you are.
>>59404326
Tough talk from Northern Latvia
>>59404258
>a polish criminal beeing executed
so, where is the problem?
>>59404376
>yeah fuck the eu for making sure companies don't fuck you over by giving you harmful shit amirite?
You're an absolute imbecile if you really believe that.
>no consumer protection like the grand old commonmeme days.
What does it have to do with anything? We always had the best and cleanest food in Europe.
>>59404391
It makes us lose all of of money.
>>59404402
:^)
bebin
>le eu is bad for poland
please, don't respond to him
Execute Western scum
>>59404422
Wait, youre actually convinced the eu regulates foodproducts because they like to bully you? are you fucking stupid?
>>59404431
t. szKODnik
>>59404489
>Wait, youre actually convinced the eu regulates foodproducts because they like to bully you? are you fucking stupid?
To destroy the idea of Polish owned companies and Polish industry.
Now fuck off. I'm not wasting my time on retards.
>>59404489
No Polish soil and food is blessed by Jan Pawell himself. Poland is the cleanest place in the world even though they use coal as their main power source.
Regulations are for faggots anyways. POLAND STRONK. JAN SOBLEWEISOWIZ COME BACK AND DESTROY THE EU!!!
>>59404422
i am serious
she was an arsonists, after all, its not impossible that people died because of her
I dont support death penalty, but those were different times back then
>>59404397
As long as you keem dem šprotes coming I got no beef with you Jānis
>>59404489
Do not listen to him. We purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.
kek sure
>>59404524
yes brush me off as a retard, clearly I am the one making the retarded claims. if you are actually convinced the EU doesn't benefit poland you are one thick skulled retard.
you literally make use of everything the EU offers to the fullest extends, every subsidy gets used. half your country population is working across Europe to later return to Poland a build a house. Polish truckers are everywhere. consumer protection laws are imposed to protect you and even that's not good in your eyes. amazing
And yet le eu monies retards strike again. They didn't even deduce the costs the newer eastern bureaucracies experience for expanding their institutions and creating new organs. Likewise administrative harmonisation, increasing process/product standards up to European level and coordinating supranational/national communication is a lot of expenditure which in its total isnt even covered by the funds they receive. I want this fucking meme to die.
Impolite sage.
The only thing that is going to happen is Visegrad Federation. Prepare your anuses Western Europe and fear not, we will take you under our wings, if you will beg enough.
>>59404801
See:
>>59404431
>>59404705
He's a retard but to our misfortune people like him elected our current government and you can see how this worked out for us...
>>59401523
>Belarus pro russian
>Ukraine in a civil war
This would be one unstable commonwealth..
>>59404922
i wish you the best of luck fampai
>>59401523
Why onlylosers on the internet dream about Commonwealth? Lack of proper educatin? Complexes?
Let's see which countries would bein:
>Poland
powerless country, the only dream of a Pole is to earn the same amount of money like a statistical German
>Lithuania
germanboos, they dream the same
>Belarus
russiaboos with shitty economy, they don't even speak their own language
>Ukraine
poor and pathetic russian speaking country which lose crimea without fight after sucking russian dick for years
>>59405016
>germanboos, they dream the same
So true, for us Germany was the perfect country before this whole rapefugee thing.
>>59401829
>Bath any rebellion in blood
I visited Poland last week and from what I gather your history has literally just been about getting slaughtered and fucked up numerous times over the past 800 years.
Poland and Polish people still exist and will always do at this rate.
Don't you learn anything?
>>59405981
>the past 800 years.
last 300, we used to do the slaughtering previously but nignogs gangbanged us
>>59406233
well I mean 800 as your country has been around that long.
I know Poland was kicking ass, your people are so proud of it's history/culture. It's a shame you guys were wiped off the map a few times.
Just proves my point tho that no matter how bad it gets the Polish culture and language will always exist.
>>59404922
>He's a retard but to our misfortune people like him elected our current government and you can see how this worked out for us...
t. szKODnik
Go cry for military intervention in Poland, you traitorous fucking piece of russian rapebaby shit.
>>59401523
No more Union with ruthenian backstabbers. I don't want another polish -X yugoslavia. It's their business to deal with Moscow now. Cossacks chose Moscow in 1654. Well then fuck them
