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Congratulations Denmark! You have finally beat Sweden!
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>>59389471
Sweden is shit because it takes millions of scum from underdeveloped shitholes, not because of its LGBT policy
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this means nothing, what will change with this?
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Animal fucker yes!
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lol what pretty sure trans isnt considered a mental illness here
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how is gender dysphoria not mental illness?
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>>59389471

Being Transgender literally IS a mental illness, this isn't even up for debate.
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>>59389899
It means they're messing with medical terminology to reclassify a well researched mental condition, that honestly is tragic and should be cured rather than accepted as normal.
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>>59390026
well 30 years ago or so faggots were considered mentally ill and nowadys its just whatever, and transgenders are in much less numbers
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>>59389875
That, and feminism taking over the countries politics.

Otherwise upstanding place.
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>>59390026
It can't be "cured", but there is an effective treatment for it.

(it's transitioning desu)
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>>59390065
>well 30 years ago or so faggots were considered mentally ill
Except gays don't need to get surgery and take hormones to be considered "true" to their sexuality.

You can't even use the nature argument like you can with Homo's as animals don't completely mutilate their gentiles and ingest hormones.

Being a tranny is literally a delusion, while being gay is just a sexual preference.
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>>59390240
Well, im of an opinion that everybody can do whatever they want as long as it doesnt hurt others
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>>59390073
This is literally worse than all the shit i saw in my /b/ days and im not even kidding
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>>59390233
Bullet to the brain is better

They end up killing themselves anyway
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>>59390073
>Read filename
>Hope it's at least an attractive tranny
>Click it
>Mfw
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>>59390277
Ugh how intolerant I can't even
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Danish women werent the onces making twitter posts about they should fuck refugees and that they dont want the protection of Swedish Men.
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>>59390233
It can't with modern technology, but it's possible. We know more about the brain and how it affects us every day.

Transitioning is a measure of last resort, and not does it only prove to be a stop-gap measure, but it's also extremely dangerous and potentially life threatening even with the best medical care available.
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>>59390320
>abominations
>attractive

Sorry that you turned out this way
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>>59390331
nobody wants the protection of swedish men
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>>59390073
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>>59390271
Maybe, but I'm of the opinion that to ignore the problem only makes it worse in the long run. Making transitioning normal instead of seeking to develop a cure is just avoiding the issue.

Transitioning is far too dangerous to be a permanent solution, like putting duct tape over a hull leakage.
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>>59390482
how is it dangerous
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good news to be honest

>>59390522
it makes him uncomfortable
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>>59390073
>seen this before
>I still opened it
I was not ready
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Im a big boi now
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>>59390617
What the fuck is wrong with your dick...
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I'm excited, waiting for news about discords between sane people, muslims, and attack helicopters.
The year is going to be awesome.
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>>59390651
That's what a ftm dick looks like.
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>this is the future of humanity
JUST
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>>59390617
Looks like they literally grafted a sausage to her
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>>59390522
Ingesting large amounts of Hormones changes the brain structure, and could lead to mood swings as well as psychosis, not to mention they interact with the body in ways that are often painful or uncomfortable to experience.

The surgery itself is something that very few professional surgeons learn to perform, as it's classified as cosmetic surgery, which doesn't have the same standards as medical surgery. This means that the procedure, which is extremely difficult to perform correctly mind you, has a high margain for medical error, which could result in excess bleeding, infection etc. It's also irreversible as you well know, and should something go wrong they are not held liable as the patient always signs a waver excusing the doctor of any charges of bodily harm. That's all before the person who went through Transition even attempts to fit into their new body and deal with the horrific pain in episodes of "phantom limb", the limb being their amputated genitalia.
>>59390563
Doctors making money off exploiting mentally ill people with potentially life threatening surgery is a cause for concern imo.
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I don't really see why you are so angered by this. Its good news desu, Liberal democracy pisses off Muslims. We should all take a leaf out of Pim Fortuyn's book. Obsessive authoritarianism and religiosity should be a thing of the past for Western society, by discrimination against people based on their sexuality or the like is literally Muslim tier
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>>59390073
I'm scared guys... I don't wanna click that... just tell me what happens.
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Feels good live in a undeveloped country where fags are seeing as mentally retarded and excluded from society. I mean, In Rio de Janegro is "normal" suck cocks. In south we deny them the use of buses.
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>>59390921
>Obsessive authoritarianism and religiosity should be a thing of the past for Western society
Okay kike, strange how we think that after only 50 years of killing homos.
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>>59390956
What do you think happens? THEY CHOP HIS DICK OFF
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i'm pretty sure it's not considered a mental illness here

neither govt or people
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>>59390905
The practices around SRS clearly have room for improvement but it is still clear that transitioning appears to be the best course of action for those with this issue
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>>59390921
but modern forced progressiveness is a form of fascism

you no longer can speak your mind lest you're ostracized and declared an enemy of the state or a racist/bigot/hick
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>>59390271

Do you support incest?
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>>59391007
how does believing that humans have fundamental human rights make me Jewish? One of the things that makes the West so superior in terms of culture is the fact that we all enjoy freedom and liberty, principles foreign to shitskins.
>>59391096
I'm not talking about modern forced progressiveness, I'm talking about social libertarianism
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>>59391134
yes
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>>59391096
shut up bigot. Don't like grown men going into the bathroom with your daughter? Well say hello to the gulag for me.
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>>59391096
>racist/bigot/hick
This is what i understand as normal.
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>>59391087
It's still a stop-gap, and always will be. I'm not saying it should be illegal, but the procedure and the doctors that perform it need to be held under heavy scrutiny.
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>>59391134
as long as it doesn't produce a child then whats the issue?
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It's already not defined as a mental illness
It's a mental disorder, sure, but not illness
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prouda'ya
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>>59391181
HAHAHA
What come next? faggots picking children in orphanages?
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>>59391160
>Well say hello to the gulag for me.
that's not funny

but i guess only holocaust's off the menu
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>>59390363
The majority of trannies never get sex reassignment surgery, so it's generally not as dangerous as you claim.
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>>59390073
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>>59390271
Necrophilia! Hell yeah!
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>>59389471
psychiatry etc. are meme disciplines
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>>59391305
That's true, but considering that it's the only known effective cure for Gender Dysphoria, to most it's seen as the logical conclusion (that or suicide).

Regardless he rate of fatalities during SRS itself would be considered completely unacceptable in any other medical field.

Doctors who do it regularly report being depressed and often even traumatized afterwards because of how many of their patients die both during and after the procedure.
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For the most part this thread looks like it's entirely made up by redditors trying to fit in.
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>>59390073
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>>59390956
A beautiful and brave woman is set free from her male appearing shell.
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>>59391273
Hollywood don't produce movies about white genocide. So, yes. No one cares.
Jewish rules.
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>>59390073
At least he looks happy
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>>59390065
Homosexuality is a mental illness. Psychiatrists decided to redefine it as "healthy" because of political pressure, not because of any new scientific revelations. That delegitimizes psychiatry, not legitimizes homosexuality.
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>>59390073
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>>59391046
>god bless our conservative country
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>>59390482

Transitioning is not effective at all. Post-transition trannies have higher suicide rates and are not happier after a few years.

Best solution is either psychological help or a quick bullet.
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>>59391650
>A mental disorder (also called a mental illness or psychiatric disorder) is a diagnosis of a behavioral or mental pattern that can cause suffering or a poor ability to function in ordinary life.
With shifting attitudes towards homosexuality it no longer met the definition of a mental disorder.

learn the definitions of the terms you use before posting please
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>>59391046
There's literally nothing abnormal or wrong about loving boipussy. Dykes are a meme though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-9_rxXFu9I

I quite like this guy's view on the subject.
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>>59391736
It helps in the short term, but you're correct unfortunately, many die to drug abuse, murder, suicide etc. It's honestly sad, because psychological help only goes so far for so many of them. CT scans of people with Gender Dysphoria show that they do have brain patterns similar to those of the opposite sex, hence why they think they're stuck in a different body.
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>>59390073
fug

benis off DDDD: D:
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>I can't help that I was born in the wrong body
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>>59390065
except faggots didn't feel physical body dysphoria
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>>59391856

One study shows that. Not conclusive enough. It's much more likely that trannies exist because of various societal factors.
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>>59390073
anyone just tired of this century already?
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>>59390233
This is a meme that has basically fucked a lot of closeted homosexuals over.

"Homosexuality cannot be cured with current medical understanding so we should just all give up lol".

FUCK leftist political idealogues dictating medical research.
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>>59391173
>>59391153

Du you think transracial people like Rachel Dolezal should be given the same treatment that transexual people in the west get? That is promoting their acceptance and funding cosmetic surgery for their transition.
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>>59391736
If you control for those who still have a support network at the end of it they don't have higher rates of suicide compared to the general population

Its pretty clear if you actually look at all the evidence that transitioning while maintaining a support network is the most effective treatment by far.

Those that do not transition still have higher suicide rates than the general population, regardless of support networks

Try doing actual research on the subject instead of just spouting "slt-right" talking points
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>>59390921
Because we're seeing leftism basically begining to redefine actual physical illnesses that people have. Gender dysphoria is real and isn't trivial. Delegitimising it discredits transgeder people completely.
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>>59391917
Possibly a combination of all the above, it's like anorexia. Their perception is different from the reality, it's delusional behavior but taken to an extreme where it's normal to them, that's what makes it near impossible to treat.
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>>59392047

But why other people with different delusions don't get the same treatment?
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>>59390233
Thats just reinforcement, they will see past the delusion after a while and kill themselves.

Its not cure.
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>>59391960
Except with a Homo, they usually come to accept that they're gay unless they're a closet fag, Trannies are the opposite, they deny that they're male/female.
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>>59392129
Because Doctors need money. It's cosmetic surgery after all, not covered even in countries with Universal healthcare.
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>>59390073
Que nosso senhor jesus cristo tenha piedade de nossa alma, pois nem o anti cristo pode nos salvar.
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If trans people feel like acting like a woman why don't they just dress like a woman and stuff like that instead of cutting their penis? After all, they say sex and gender are two different things.
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>>59392383
fucking fascist bigotted shitlord, delet this
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>>59392383
many don't opt for SRS but there are many others who feel such profound discomfort with there own bodies that they end up receiving SRS
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>>59392193
Closet fags accept they are gay but try not to act on it and as such they were betrayed the medical community.

Trannies don't simply deny that they are male or female, they actually believe they are their preffered gender to the point where they feel dysphoria which impacts their ability to function.

They are certainly mentally ill and to claim they are not is basically turning your back on a group of people that need medical assistance.
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>>59392155
Crazy idea, but what if they kill themselves because assholes like you reinforce it?
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>>59390065
But being gay is a mental illness

It's just a lot less than transgender.
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>>59389471
Dont worry, Sweden will eventually declare being male and female a mental sickness.
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>>59390271
Almost none of our laws and government is needed based upon your logic.

95% of government is "just how people feel."

Only 5% is even needed.
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>>59390921
Modern Leftism and progressivism is basically reverse fascism.
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>>59390271
Le everyone lives in a vaccum meme.
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>>59391160
Go to bed, Ted Cruz.
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>>59389471
there is nothing wrong with doing wathever you want to your own body
media promoting it as a great choice that has no consequences and should not be questioned and politicians baning the ones that may want to try real therap should be burned to death tho
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>>59392603
No, Female is the new norm. Being a normal male is defective, a sickness.
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>>59392920
>Reparative therapy
>Real therapy

wew
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My country doesn't have this "problem".
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>>59392976
with all the pandering, bias, censoring and big buisness investments i dont even know whats science and whats magic anymore.
And its all your countrys fault
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>>59392560
It's not illegal to tell someone to kill themselves though. If it was, then everyone who posted on 4chan would be in jail.

Threatening to kill them is a different story, but it's not the same thing even if the outcome is the same.
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>>59392506

Shouldn't people that wants the opposite sex parts but still want to act like the typical person of the sex they were born with exist?
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>>59393072
>le big science meme

Consider suicide, you gullible fuck.
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>>59393135
>le social sciences are as reliable as physics meme

fuck off.
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>>59392585
The West is so far left. Shitdicks are accepted as normal to the point that they're almost seen as traditional. Fags are arguing with trannies so it's mentally ill vs mentally ill.
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>>59392920
There problem is that they're treating it like it's normal and that they aren't mentally ill. Would you trust a mentally ill person to make sound decisions?
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>>59393135
>gullible
except all the big decissions regarding how to hide the truth where made years before i was born
congratulations murrika you killed rational thought
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>>59393172
Gender dysphoria has been proven by neruoscience.
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>>59393212
Cultural Marxism was invented by an American?
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>>59393240
Define Cultural Marxism
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>>59393238
And what is your opinion of it being declassified due to political pressure from leftist organisations?
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>>59393212
http://www.infowars.com/
You seem lost

>>59393238
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Bolshevism
>Using literal Nazi talking points

Get the fuck out of my country.
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>>59393176
as long as he can only hurt himself yeah, i would let him do wathever he wants, i belive individual rights are the most important thing in the world, i have no buisness getting in the way
however when you go on tv claiming hat dropping your dragon gear and pressing alt f4 multiplys it i get mad
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>>59393118
You aren't speaking very clear English but I think you're asking if people who are cis but also decide they want the opposite sex's genitals should be allowed to do this

I'd say yes, so long as they pay for it themselves.
However I have never seen a case where a man who feels comfortable as a man would decide to get a vagina. That doesn't make sense if they felt comfortable in their assigned gender, now does it.
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>>59393291
>A mental disorder (also called a mental illness or psychiatric disorder) is a diagnosis of a behavioral or mental pattern that can cause suffering or a poor ability to function in ordinary life.
Reminder that what is considered a mental disorder is dependent on the societal norms in which an individual lives.
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>>59393307
>the us goverment never hid the truth about anything and europe is not currently involved in any conspiracys
>2016
>the current year
>three years after the nsa shit
wow cuckest nation in the world
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>>59389471

But wouldn't that eliminate the evaluations you need to take and shit to reaffirm your status before hormonal therapy?

That's not a good thing, those checks help find and treat people who are suffering from other disorders than gender dysphoria but are being confused for gender dysphoria.
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>>59393288
The use of critical theory to dissect societal norms in order to spur societal change, for better or for worse.
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>>59393502
if you think cultural marxists invented conspiracys and contrling the population you are a bigger retard that your national average
and thats an achivement on itself
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>>59393321
Yeah, but imagine if it was say your son or daughter or someone you cared about? Remember, these people often have the mental capacity of a teenager despite being fully grown. What's the limit?
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>>59393420
>Argie
>Conspiracy minded retarded.

I'm betting $50 right now that you voted for Kirchner
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>>59393569
i would grant any person the same rights i hold regardless of how much i love them. In fact i would specially support it in a person i love because if i love them i wouldnt want to take freeom away from them.
Nobody single person is capable of the evil a state or big corporation (same thing) is anyways, worst case scenario they kill themselves, they would have lived a shitty life anyways
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>>59393551
It didn't, what it did was make it so that things we consider normal and easy to understand are called into question, like marriage, sex, gender, race etc.

Basically, it claimed that ones perceptions of reality were entirely subjective with no universal value, which is inherently unscientific and something that gives them a lot of heat from others, but it's used by political groups as an argument for whatever agenda they're pushing.
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>>59393622
i voted macri. But thats irrelevant, if you knew enough about my country you would bring up the fact that the last president run away with 300 billion dollars
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>>59393420
just because something is a conspiracy doesn't mean everything is

Or do you believe the US government also developed crack cocaine and AIDS to wipe out black people?
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>>59393690
we learned whats safe to eat before there was any science, im sure we learned what race was, what uniting man and woman achieved and what being born a man or a woman meant too.
Please explain to me how gender is a social construct and a man can be born with a woman brain gender at the same time because thats where i draw the line
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>>59391980
"Support network"? You mean "enablers", right?
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>>59393716
just because a scientific study comes from murika or the european union it means that its a conspiracy
ftfy, i have less trouble beliving that unicorn remains where found in north korea
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>>59393786
The person you are talking to is a delusional retard probably from Reddit that is obsessed with the "alt-right" boogeyman. Don't excpect any honest replies from him.
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>>59390073
i thought yankees did this at birth 2bh
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>>59393344

It makes sense if people feel uncomfortable in their own bodies and gender and sex are two separated and unrelated things. I mean, if 100% of the people that "changes" their sex also act like the sex they "converted" to then sex and gender aren't so separated after all. Or maybe cis men that wants a vagina exists but they aren't well represented in the media.
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>>59393783
You're absolutely correct, it's not rational, but Cultural Marxism doesn't claim to be rational because "life isn't rational". It's literally "I reject your reality and replace it with my own": the idealogy.

I don't agree with any of that just fyi, i think it's all crackpot shit, but it's undeniable that its influence in academia and on progressive movements has been toxic.
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>>59393395
Well you forgot the first part of the definition. That being the suffering.

Gender dysphoria almost certainly fits that criteria.

Anyone who acknowledges gender dysphoria while simultaneously denies those that have it are suffering a mental illness is performing some impressive mental gymnastics.
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>>59393869
>america turnet yolo into an university deegree
>here is my science
>its not rational
>its also sciene
>but not science at the same time?
thing is im ok with people being irrational as long as they dont hold the power to affect other peoples lives. You are right, trans people are vulnearble, much more vulnerable than your average citizen. This means they need protection, protection from you
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>>59393849
Delet this
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>>59393978
Cultural Marxism is under philosophy, which isn't a hard science, and at best a social science. Tbh, the field itself is a clusterfuck of conflicting logic and understanding that it's utterly worthless for anything but learning how to write 5 different methods of doing citations.

I wouldn't expect someone with that degree to be anything other than a SJW.
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>>59393981
It's too late. Equating circumcision to trannie ops is possibly the most retarded thing a Swede ever posted.
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>>59394093
is cultural marxism sciense?
if yes it has to be logical
if not you dont have any rigth to make scientific decitions or claims
im not giving you a third option
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>>59394148
spotted the mutilated jew
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Do yuropoors really see trannies as normal and not
mentally ill or they just pretend? I mean, the trannies I have met are pretty mentally ill in aspects that don't have to do with their gender dysphoria.
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>>59393956
It's so fucked. I know plenty of people who are gay who are uncomfortable with the "T" part in LGBT, but are called hypocrits and "traitors". It's madness.
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>>59394190
No, it's philosophy. Philosophy sometimes deals with science, but it's not inherently a science. There are some who'll tell you otherwise but they are delusional.
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>>59394148
seriously you guys need to stop that shit. If you still do it only because you have been doing it for centuries and no other reaon you should sit and think about it for a while.
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>>59394315
you chose no, good for you, you can stop filling posittions of power now
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>>59394268
in this country nobody cares about them because nobody knows any

we're talking about a group of people that 99% of the population will never engage with
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>>59394342
Preaching to the choir here m8
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>>59394227
I'm just a guy who's educated about biology. Swedes are "intact" yet Swedish men are the most effeminate and sexually confused losers on the planet.
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>>59394373
Can phosophy fix my computer? Can philosophy make my car run? Then why do you think philosophy can cure an illness.
By the way its not philosophy it's sensationalism, it doesn't have any philosophy roots, it was invented by reporters
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>>59394268
No. It's just the political elite trying to appease the extreme left and the media.
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>>59394365

What if you knew one of those ones that totally pass and fucked her m8?
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>>59391957
lol
yes
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>>59390073
Dear god
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>>59390073
i aint clickin that shit nigga
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Tranny fucking shits can go fuck themselves (literally)
This garbage is stupid as fuck.
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>>59390073
I haven't been this sickened in a long fucking time
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