>2016
>Religious people still exist
>implying the average person doesn't need religion to prevent him from being a degenerate
It works like this. Most degenerate behaviors carry objectively negative consequences for one's health and mental well-being. The thing is, the average illiterate Neanderthal doesn't quite understand the scientific or medical reasons why he shouldn't inhale white powder or have sex with a dude's butt, but he sure will restrain from those things if you tell him that a magic sky man is going to zap him down to eternal torment for it.
>there are people on this board who actually believe that there is an inherent meaning to our existence
>>59383777
>caring
M'lady
>>59388111
Have you been outside lately?
Literally everyone is wearing a Hijab
That's some crazy shit
>>59388193
Once again
>caring
M'lady
>>59388447
what does caring have to do with anything
you guys are backwards as fuck
All of you.
>>59388867
You have your ideologies reversed dude
>>59388940
Arguing about religion, especially with such a baity OP, is /pol/ tier. That was the implication.
>2016
>Still thinking god is a bearded guy in the sky
That's the real question
>>59388193
>hijab
>australia
how?
>>59388988
>>59388988
you're a fucking retard
>>59388193
Where do you live? Melbourne?
>>59388193
Where do you live?
I can't remember the last time I saw a Muslim in full dress.
Culturally religious people > regular believers >> fedora tippers >>>>>>> hardcore fanatics
Today atheists are far more annoying than religious people, if we dont factor in muslims.
>>59386845
evangelicals are pretty degenerate as well desu. Needs to be more acceptance for personal religion instead of institutions or government. It's hard facing that the teachings of great thinkers and teachers which one practices are perverted by the likes of baptist and mormons.
I wouldn't mind being culturally religious if the Islamic fanatics weren't pissing me off so much with their bullshit.
Muhammad was a fucking medieval warlord with a 9 year-old wife. All these prophets are a bunch of blokes.
I don't understand religion.
I didn't realize people were actually religious until I was probably 17-18, my family and neighborhood had basically 0 religion.
I legitimately thought it was something that people used to do and no longer do besides some old people.
keep up the good work 1st worlders
when you can't drink alcohol and all women are wearing burqas you will remember christianity fondly, bunch of weak faggots.
>>59389562
USA is one of the most 'religious' western countries and our women are all whores
>>59389602
religious people= more kids
more kids= not having your country overrun by immigrants
it's a simple equation.
>>59389657
I don't want niggers and spics to have kids
for the first time in like 4 decades white birthrate is above black and hispanic because of abortion clinics
>>59389657
spics are catholic
we aren't europe
>>59384286
>western Roman Catholic
>Islam
DIS GAN ONLY ED IN BEACE
>>59387645
>there are people on this board who actually believe that there is no inherent meaning to our existence
>>59389718
why wouldn't it?
lick the feet, white man.
>>59389682
do you have a source for that number? i'd like to see it.
>>59389688
exactly.
they are religious, most americans are not. By 2050 whites won't be a minority in the US because of latinos.
>inb4 you aren't white
the logic applies to every race and country.
south african niggers (which are only slightly better) are having problems with niggers immigrating from other countries to south africa.
>not a single fedora posted in the whole thread
D-does this mean "memes" are dying? Can we really be actual people again?
>>59389754
>Christians
top cucks
>>59383777
>2016
>A*stralia hasn't been nuked off the face of the Earth
>>59389791
you mean catholics
>>59389789
this post can kinda count as a fedora, a slight one but a fedora still >>59389499
>>59383777
>2016
C U R R E N T Y E A R
Is this what passes for an argument here?
>Still being this retarded no matter what year it is
>>59389785
>do you have a source for that number? i'd like to see it.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/births.htm
it's in the data
>>59387645
okay, so lets say there is
what makes your god right? why is it more right than other people's god(s)?
>>59389840
except the source you just linked shows the opposite
>>59389791
>*Catholics
fixed.
>*Catholic
fixed further
>*the goddamn pope
Adjusted for accuracy.
>>59389836
You realise shiggy diggy aka ISHYGDDT is a meme from 2011, right?
How are you this new?
>>59389725
I just ate for the first time in two days, as I haven't eaten for 5 out of the last six days, and now I'm going to pleasure myself to pornographic manga
Then I'll think about killing myself again before watching some slice of life anime
let me know where the meaning is senpaitachi
>>59389874
Historical fact
Truth
Reality
These are what makes one religion correct and others not, and these are the only things that can do that.
>>59389840
I couldn't find it here
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_12.pdf
did I look at the wrong place?
>>59389874
nothing, but most decent people are actually gnostic (they believe there is a god/creator, but not one in the molds of religion)
>>59389894
no it doesn't
in 2008, whites made up 53.38% of all births
in 2011, they made up 54.40%
latino decreased from 24.50% to 23.07% in the same period
>>59389874
>what makes your god right? why is it more right than other people's god(s)?
This doesn't matter, if and when people pray to their gods, they all pray to the same god. They just have different folk tales for each. Faith is merely a small part of religion anyways, the main thing is culture.
>>59389072
Who is this? I see this face shopped onto images all the time.
>>59389970
proofs?
>>59389970
>they all pray to the same god
Says who? Is God a trinity, or not? He can't be both a trinity and not a trinity.
>>59389874
The only thing that can validate a god is the manner in which his followers exert their own will on the world, because no gods exist, they're just a vehicle for the will of a people
>>59389725
I really think the truth of the meaning would only disappoint you and the answers given in religion are pretty much all lies. But you can always take solace in being a good person.
>>59389970
>they all pray to the same god
Came in here for laughs and am not dissapointed.
>>59389900
If you're not going to defend your retarded argument then I'll just assume that you can't.
>>59389983
assburger
>>59383777
I find it impossible to believe in God, it just makes no sense to me.
>>59389041
Hijab is literally made for Australian climate
>>59390044
>>59390004
>because no gods exist
Oh, wow, nice argument.
>dude lol the universe just came into existence lolll dude just random i swear lol
I remember having arguments with people on 4chan because I was agnostic solely because 4chan was 100% pure atheist
until reddit's atheist subforum became popular
then 4chan was suddenly religious.
>>59390044
>post a literal meme
>newfag consfuses it for an argument
top wew, lurk moar
>>59390096
Looks like I was right.
>>59390116
confuses*
my b
>>59390099
dude.... i just like.... feel.... that god exists.... lmao....
>>59390110
Considering 99% of the observable universe is just arbitrary processes that aren't really accomplishing anything with significant meaning that's not a difficult stance to take. If the universe was created why did whoever or whatever create it decide to exert so much energy and time filling it with nothing? It just sits there.
>>59390116
/int/ is being flooded with new people, I don't even know what's happening.
They keep posting all the "are you guys REALLY racist?" threads too, you can tell because they don't understand any of the "board culture" at all
>>59390001
>Says who? Is God a trinity, or not? He can't be both a trinity and not a trinity.
This is irrelevant and a triviality unfortunately created by the early catholic church for some strange reason. God is an abstract concept much like what >>59390004 says, what man says he is doesn't mean anything. What I says he is doesn't mean anything. "God" might as well be the fundamental forces of the universe like gravity, electromagnetism etc.
>>59390025
Why? It doesn't really make sense to believe that there is a pantheon of gods which are specific to one of each of the 10,000~ religions. If there is a single god who's creation is humanity, whenever any member of humanity prays, why would their worship go to anyone but the creator.
Even if God is real, it's impossible for man to comprehend him.
So it's all fucking pointless to argue about.
Go figure out what it means to you.
>>59390182
Where is the universe?
>>59390241
by this argument then it doesn't matter if you worship or not because they're all wrong
>>59389318
Matthew 24:5
Jesus warned you of phony "holy" men.
>>59390241
Occam's razor that shit, it makes far more sense that most all religious worship is simply false over a god we can't feasibly quantify existing that everyone directs their prayer to indirectly.
>>59390116
it's the /pol/ influence, most people on that board are new posters with a large overlap with reddit
>>59390182
>"no it has some purpose definitely...we just don't know it yet"
>"god works in mysterious ways, man"
>>59390400
heh you sure showed them
now hurry up and lick jamal's feet
i don't understand the logic of anyone that claims that they can comprehend the universe
this includes atheists
>>59390261
Somewhere awkwardly sitting in a of complexity we don't know the bottom or top of.
>>59390419
This shouldn't be funny.
>>59390479
*scale of complexity
>>59390400
I guess the time has come.
KKKhristians are the people who use ancient story books as a justification for preventing two consenting adults in love from marrying because their ancient book says that you may only use your penis in ways that some bearded sky ghost approves of.
>>59390543
ban masturbation NOW!
>>59390293
>>59390344
worshipping is senseless, culture is what matters. You can learn a lot from the philosophers who have come and gone. Like my main man James once wrote:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2%3A14-26&version=NKJV
You are all getting the wrong idea of what I'm trying to say. What I'm getting at is that you can learn more by listening than blindly following any doctrine, and it's best if man were to live by discipline and principle instead of wasting so much energy on being religious or atheist fanatics debating on trivialities like if a story is real or not, or who's god is less real. No one finds a problem telling their kids the story of little red riding hood to teach them not to speak to strangers, likewise it shouldn't be an issue telling kids of when Jesus argued with the pharisees who criticized him when he was doing good deeds on the sabbath.
>>59390261
The universe is where everything that is not within the universe isn't.
>>59390259
This honestly.
>>59390664
>The universe is where everything that is not within the universe isn't.
Absolutely meaningless.
>>59390261
my dick is the universe
seriously though, thats as good an answer as any
CURRENT YEAR
>>59390810
>2016
>doesn't know a five year old meme
Are the mods asleep?
>>59390704
Of course it is, it's a mathematical answer based on set theory, and one should be satisfied with the answer because we're never ever ever going to get a better one.
I am honestly troubled by this often, all of this is accomplishing NOTHING. At least nothing from what we can see. It all just sits there. I feel like consciousness is a fluke, not necessarily that we weren't supposed to wake up but that the universe never really accommodated for anything waking up. There is so much fucking space for nothing. If nothing conscious ever existed it would still just sit there and finish out it's processes and then die out. An ant is already so tremendous compared to an atom, how did shit expand so much that it ended up like THIS? THIS MUCH FUCKING NOTHING. Impossible to even comprehend this much nothing.
>>59390934
/int/ doesn't have mods, come on sillypenis
>>59390994
A janny is """""cleaning""""" our general.
>>59390990
it's nothing because you think it's nothing
>>59391191
Which is why I said our consciousness feels like a fluke. It could be serving a purpose but we have no idea. To us it's just a bunch of energy, we can't do anything but look at mostly all of it. I feel like it's the main reason a god wouldn't exist, at least not a moral one. Why would they care about us but make us in a universe where we hardly fit? It could be scaled down by a factor of how many and the same effect of awe would be given.
>>59391116
I think the janitor is an American from St. Paul, Minnesota who is throwing a fit because he doesn't think /asean/ is """quality"''" enough
>>59391337
you can believe in something that could constitute a god/s while also believing that our existence is a fluke and we are insignificant
you are very anthropocentric
>>59391422
But that belief would be entirely meaningless. It certainly wouldn't serve any purpose towards whatever that god was, at least from what we can tell from our current situation. Should I do a backflip at 3:37 AM every day just because. I could but it wouldn't effect anything. Belief in these circumstances is completely arbitrary and self created.
>>59391494
>Should I do a backflip at 3:37 AM every day just because.
Why not?
I really hate the "you can't get something from nothing" argument, because that isn't at all what scientists hypothesise happened. The thing is, we know the universe was an infitessemally small point which expanded outward and eventually became the thing we have today, but before that we have absolutely not a damn clue.
We have guesses, like that the universe expands and contracts infinitely, going through big bangs and collapsing to the singular again and again, and it's just as likely as any other hypothesis that a being somehow caused it, but what isn't likely is that said being knows or cares about complex little biological machines on a speck of dust on the arm of a little swirling cloud.
>>59389754
>lick the feet, white man.
>white man.
>white
finally... confirmed.
Due to how pathetic human understanding of the nature of the universe is I simply cannot call myself an atheist.
>>59383777
>there are people on this board right now who believe that there is a man in the sky watching them while they are masturbating to japanese cartoons
Certain religions are forces for good. I think the reformed strain of Christianity in the west has been a good thing for the world. If it helps people live virtuous lives and give them a sense of identity, then I don't see an issue with it.
The types that overly fanatical like most strains of Sunni and Shia islam and the Shamanistic ones in Africa need to be destroyed though
>>59389902
If you're so miserable why do you keep doing the things that make you miserable
>>59389983
Irrelevant finnish actor that became associated with autism by finns autistically spamming him.
>>59392629
Include in your list of fanticals the people who say the earth is 5000 years old because "muh bible"
I get that people need to believe in God. Mortality is overwhelming sometimes. It can kill your joie de vivre. Sometimes I find it hard to feel when I really think about my place in the universe.
Religious life isn't for me, I don't think I could ever go back to it without feeling I was lying to myself. But is it really so hard to expect people to turn to religion? Especially on an image board where people love to talk about how depressed they are and how meaningless life is.
>>59383777
>2016
>people still think they're ahead of their time for being atheists.
ITT but especially >>59387645
>>59392772
The imageboard itself is a coping mechanism
>>59392772
>need to believe in God
you don't "need" to believe
you just accept facts or ignore them
if anything people feel they "need" to not have faith, but really it boils more down to apathy than anything
>>59392676
It used to be I thought drinking made me miserable, so I stopped. I've done that for many things but as it turns out basically nothing makes me happy
These things aren't making me miserable any more than anything else I've done, I'm just doing them and I'm miserable due to unrelated issues
>>59392610
FWIW, you tried to get rid of religion for 70 years and failed.
>>59392837
If you want to go over my diction with a fine-toothed comb I'm sure you'll find a few things that aren't necessarily true. No they don't strictly "need" to believe in God, but dealing with the implications of that—especially if you were brought up religious—is hard. If I had the opportunity to convince myself forever that I was going to live forever after I died I can't guarantee I wouldn't take it. Just one less thing to worry about, right?
>>59392610
I'm a Buddhist but I also follow Jesus and believe in a absolute creator.
>>59392841
I feel the same way sometimes, honestly.
>>59392841
You may have clinical depression, go to a doctor.
In the end, agnosticism is the only valid answer since God's existence can neither be proven or disproven.
>>59393177
Bringin' the bait, I see
>>59393177
Russell's teapot, flying spaghetti monster etc
>>59393177
>>59393226
>>59393228
Logically though, you could not prove for certain that there's no god unless you were able to scour every inch of the universe.
>>59393177
>agnosticism
>not scrapping the idea entirely
>but if I scrap the idea of religion, I'll become an atheist le fedora tipper
your memetic buzzwords are literally the garbage that humanity is forced to ingest
The other thing is that, shit, if fedora-tipping brings freedom and enlightenment, then why are most atheists butthurt as fuck.
>>59393276
That's the point of Russell's teapot. You can't prove the absence of anything so absoluterly anything can exist by that logic.
>>59393276
Look I don't want to be rude but you clearly don't know what you're talking about. I don't know if you're new to this or underage but you should really look up Russell's teapot as our Russian friend suggested.
>>59393343
Kind of, but the thing that comes off as funny to me is that you never hear of aSanta Clausists or aSpidermanists or aHarry Potterists.
>basing your entire identity as a person around a negative
>>59393343
Because christfaggots and especially muslims can't stop pushing their archaic bullshit down everyone's throat.
>>59383777
God's not real so who cares if anyone believes in Him?
>giving a shit about god being real or not
holy fuck who cares just live life the way you want and try not to rape or murder anyone. if god exists you'll probably get a pass and if he doesnt exist you have nothing to worry about. these debates are so fucking dumb they never go anywhere and no one ever changes their mind
saged.
The statement often used by religious people "You can't prove there's _no_ god" is in of itself a fallacy because it would require the Devil's Proof in >>59393276
Bertrand Russell, the British atheist, once countered this form of argumentation by calling it the “celestial teapot argument.” In response to the assertion, “but you can’t prove God doesn’t exist,” Russell in essence said, “neither can one disprove the idea that there is a teapot orbiting the sun, but the odds of such a thing are so small that there's no reason to believe it exists."
Atheism, by definition, is itself negative — from the negative prefix, a (no) and theos (God). It is a baseless assertion without the support of logical argumentation.
All the same, atheists themselves are not immune to making illogical arguments. They believe that life, at the beginning, spontaneously generated itself. When asked for evidence of this thesis, an atheist might say: “Prove to me it didn’t happen that way.” No one could; that’s the sort of negative that cannot be subjected to testing. The issue is: show me the evidence that life “jump-started” itself.
The Christian does not challenge: “Prove to me that God does not exist.” Rather, the legitimate approach is this. Here is the evidence for God’s existence. If my case is valid, one is logically driven (by default) to the conclusion that there is compelling evidence for God’s existence. In legal jargon, this is called a prima facie case; if there is nothing to refute it, it reasonably may be accepted as true, and atheism — its opposite — fails.
>>59393464
bump :^)
>>59393464
You're acting like you're above this but your response is just as clockwork as everything that's already been said in this thread. There's always one:
>I don't want to talk about it! Stop talking about it! I don't like it!
Relax. The thread isn't hurting you.
>>59393365
Yes but on the flip side, saying the only things that exist are what you can currently prove is the death of science not the heart of it.
According to the logic your average 21 year old atheist lives by, the planet Neptune didn't exist until 1846.
>>59393409
There is almost no Christian nation where in this day and age you can be persecuted for atheism, but you sure as hell can be persecuted for atheism in most Muslim nations. Yet never will you hear atheists go over to Iran and complain.
>>59393409
It's going to be that or some ruling power's version of humanism.
Which usually wind up even more complicated and ridiculous than the religions it replaces.
>>59393485
(1) All known evidence indicates that matter is incapable of creating itself. The first law of thermodynamics states that “matter” is neither being created nor destroyed; it only changes from one form to another. There is not a shred of evidence that any material object has ever created itself.
(2) All evidence suggests that matter is not eternal. The second law of thermodynamics states that as matter undergoes transformation, there is a negative effect, a running-down process. This implies a commencement point (just as a wound-up clock implies a starting time). Since matter is incapable of creating itself (and yet it exists), and since it had a commencement point, logic suggests it had a non-material cause.
(3) All evidence indicates that inorganic matter is incapable of generating life. But since life exists, a reasonable deduction is: there must be an explanation for life that is extraneous to, and independent of, the material.
(4) All evidence indicates that no strictly material object has moral sensitivity, i.e., a conviction of right versus wrong. In view of this, it is a reasonable conclusion that mankind’s moral sensitivity is to be found in a moral source beyond the material.
(5) All evidence indicates that objects characterized by design have been produced by an intelligent designer. The universe, earth’s environment, molecules, cells, biological organisms, etc., reflect design. They thus point to an intelligent Designer.
Atheism has nothing to compare with this line of positive argumentation. All it can say is, “I deny, I deny!” It is the “religion” of negativism. As a Texan might express it, “They're all hat and no cattle.”
>>59393527
No, not really. You're suggesting that science considers itself complete even as it discovers new information. How could that be right?
>>59393570
He's Russian. Ask him what 70 years of anti-religious ideologies did for his country.
(Citation needed): The Thread
>>59393485
God himself is clearly alive, so it's not an answer to the life's origin, it just pushes the question further back: if god created life, who created god?
>>59393177
factually correct and anyone who disagrees can explain the origin of the universe in objective terms
>>59389499
I'm sorry to hear about your having been adopted and raised by two vicious lesbians.
>>59393527
>being this stupid
>>59393616
citations are a spook
>>59393615
It was still better than tsarist Russia which was complete and utter shithole. Also modern commieblocks are ok.
I do believe in God. I some times have doubts about about it in my specially hard times, but I grow my faith stronger after that and try to be a better christian.
You either pick one set of axioms or another. If you're atheist you still take some things on faith.
>>59393519
That or he realizes that at the current point in time it is literally impossible to prove one side or the other correct and therefore there is no point in caring
For at any price we must keep those with too clear a conscience from living and dying in peace
Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.
The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo.
Criticism has plucked the imaginary flowers on the chain not in order that man shall continue to bear that chain without fantasy or consolation, but so that he shall throw off the chain and cull the living flower.
>>59393900
"There's no point," is such a lazy thing to say. And you agnostics just love trumpeting it like it makes you better than every scientist and philosopher and theologian who has debated this topic. It's incredibly arrogant. More so, I think, than saying "I [don't] believe in God."
>>59393760
Lets not pretend that the Tzar's hadnt put Russia on the path to industrialisation, hell the revolution probably only delayed Russia's modernisation by a few years. In fairness though, the three year plans probably helped "encourage" rapid growth
What >>59386845 said.
It's sort of like how Socrates was prosecuted for corrupting the youth of Athens by telling them to not believe in the gods. For intellectuals such as himself, unbelief meant freedom and enlightenment, but for most of his followers, it merely removed whatever restraint they had from becoming degenerate.
>>59393574
Your first two points contradict each other. The Universe has a beginning - the big bang - and supposedly an ending - the heat death of the universe, but matter wasn't created in the big bang, it was contained in a singulairty and it will not be destroyed in the heat death, it will be just spread out in a thin layer throughout the entire space.
Moral is subjective, it's a human concept which didn't exist until humanity invented it. Like language or art it doesn't exist the same way material objects exist. It's created by human thoughts and feelings and disappears if you take humanity out of the picture.
The blind wahtchmaker shit has been refuted over and over. And again, it just pushes the question further back. The designer has to be infinitely more complex than his creation, so who designed the designer?
The origin of life is the only question modern science doesn't truly have an answer to (yet)
>>59394115
The backwardness of Russia in 1914 was exaggerated anyway, mostly thanks to generations of communist propaganda that everyone pre-revolution lived in caves and wore loincloths..
Is God a yandere?
>>59394162
The tzar was pretty incompetent and callous though. He did the bare minimum needed to keep the people from revolting, and even that he couldn't keep up for long.
>>59394262
>God
>creating Hell
LOLno. Hell is the default condition. You're already in Hell, you have to get out of it by accepting salvation.
>>59394082
>People debating with lack of fact
It's not about being above anybody else you fuckwit, it's about realizing that we literally do not have any way currently to know what the answer is and that arguing about it has zero power over the outcome when or if we eventually do discover the answer. That is not disputeable and I can't comprehend how you can logically come to a different conclusion. Debating about anything with as little raw fact as we have so far is on par with writing fanfiction.
i'm atheistic and i don't care
let people be religious if they don't hurt anybody
>>59394294
While true, it's still worth pointing out that the Romanov dynasty lasted 300 years while the USSR didn't crack 80 years.
>>59394082
I am an agnostic and I think the kind of people who say "there's no point" are just failing to understand or too lazy to take the next logical step that everybody makes their own point.
We each decide what we want to do and do our best to do that, it's kind of scary to think about, but we don't really have any built in purpose, but that's no excuse to be a lazy piece of shit.
>>59390228
Shut up racist.
>>59389688
Idk mang. There's plenty of people who claim an essence of Irish or Italian and attend Mass, and I live in the Midwest.
>>59394297
But according to your bible god created everything, so if he didn't create hell, were did it come from?
>>59394329
How is it being lazy, it's just ignoring an argument that can't logically be made and continuing with your life until either you die or one side can be proven. Nothing lazy about it unless you consider not actively pursuing the answer to a question that has no immediate affect on your life lazy.
>>59394297
>Hell is the default condition.
Sauce
>>59394400
I think I misread a post, I was talking about people who say that life has no point and use that as an excuse to do nothing. I have no quarrel with you.
if jesus came back tomorrow, how many of you christians would call him a beta low test cuck jew shitskin?
Science is a meme and all scientific "truths" are explained the Quaran.
Personally I believe that not only is Islam Allah's (swt) gift to humanity but also that it is the job of every Muslim to spread the Ummah until every human on earth accepts the teachings of Allah (swt) revealed through the prophet (pbuh).
There is no god but Allah and Muhammed is his prophet.
don't reply to the brit bait
>>59394446
Ahh fair enough, I agree that the whole life is meaningless nihilism stuff is a crock of shit
>>59394398
God didn't create Reddit either, yet it...
>>59394505
Poe's shitpost
>>59390228
Every board's like this. Nothing new.
>>59394407
I'm surprised this guy doesn't just use a trip since he's a de facto tripfag anyway.
>>59394398
You act as if Allah (swt) wanted to give us the entire story. No, he only revealed to us what he thinks we need to know.
>>59390228
It's summer I'm not really sure what else you expected
>>59394546
Humans created Reddit, however cuckéd they may be, but I don't think that humans would have built hell
>>59394709
>but I don't think that humans would have built hell
Reddit doesn't count as Hell? ;)
>>59393140
Nah he's just an American under age 30 who didnt buy into consumerism yet
>>59394747
>1995+21
>using emoticons
>>59394786
>>59394747
Hell is America since January 20, 2009.
People are stupid, get over it.
>>59394881
To be honest I had to google your country because I don't think I've ever heard it's name, thanks for enriching my day anon
Who else /catholic/ here?
>>59394954
You learned about my country?
Now you shall die, m8. Nothing personnell.
>>59394982
>catholicucks
>in my /int/
Away.
>>59390112
Is that why it seems like there are a fuckton of people on 4chan these days who are unironically Christian? It's just contrarianism?
>>59395023
from what I've encountered, most Christians on this board are neo fascists who can't wait or an apocalyptic war with the Islamic world.
>>59395023
It's purely contrarianism. Used to be that 4chan was full of militant atheists and anyone who believed in sky ghosts was laughed out of the place. Then because of /r/atheism, 4chan had to pretend to be extreme Christfags who spam original fedora neckbeard memes whenever someone says they don't believe in ancient fairy tales.
>>59395060
Sounds about right.
>>59395022
Fugging cucks.
i was never brought up with religion. whats wrong with people that believe in it? of course i mean when it's not affecting anyone else in a negative way
>>59395060
Or you know, not everyone is an atheist..
>>59395133
>4chan
>not everyone is an atheist
Lmao.
>>59395109
Literally nothing, except what you describe. If it doesn't halt scientific progress, or restrict my freedoms, I couldn't give less of a shit.
It used to be that people actually bothered to debate religion and the existence or lack thereof of God here. Now they just spam fedora memes and call it a day.
>>59395175
*Tip
>>59395305
Am I doing it right?
>>59389754
>Argentinian
>White
>>59389041
To guard your hair from parasites that might jump there, breed, and suck your brains out
>>59395060
What really happened was that the religious fundamentalist and evangelicals were making asshats of themselves and it was the cool thing to attack them. Then it caught on a bit too much and the same atheist turned into fundamentalist and became insufferable so now people don't want to associate with atheism.
>>59395569
Are parasites that big of an issue in Islamic nations?
I honestly used to think 4chan users were smarter than your average wigger but then I realized most of you honestly believe in jewish fairy tales. Get fucked senpaitachi desu.
prove to me right now that existence isn't a semi-solipsistic experience of one sould manifested in multiple outlets and that we don't reincarnate to learn from previous life lessons
>>59395109
>>59395239
Because it is *false*. Thinking false ideas are true is dangerous. You are not that far off from otherkin.
>>59396864
>Prove
Impossible.
>Make an argument for why that seems unlikely
Sure.
Suppose you come into existence in a sealed room together with Descartes' demon. You come to know that the room follows a certain set of self-consistent rules, which the demon seems to enforce, though you do not always understand them or the causality between them. Still, when you perform a certain action a certain result seems to follow; logic and induction are possible - as far as you can tell - because there is cause and effect.
Given that you are trapped in this room, and this method of induction seems to let you accurately manipulate your situation in that room, then the most reasonable thing to do is to follow the apparent rules of logic because they get you results. Now you can't tell whether the rules are absolute, whether our genius malignus isn't merely manipulating your perception so that you perceive positive experiences and negative and vice versa, but given the tools at your disposal accepting reality at face value is your only road to potential happiness. You don't punch yourself in the mouth to feel less hungry on the off-chance that your perception of reality isn't accurate. What's outside of the room - if there is an outside - does not matter.
God, Solipsism and other such ideas you are absolutely not forced to accept. Worse, as there is a nigh-infinite variety of them and no support of any kind for any of them you have no way to pick one apart from all of the others. Pascal's gambit posits a situation wherein it pays off to believe in God but ignores the fact that there is an infinite number of potential deities whose whole thing could be "fuck with people who bought into Pascal's gambit forever". We simply have no way to make use of the sort of knowledge we cannot prove by induction/deduction.
>>59397153
Good post.
>>59391925
Under-(you)'d post
>ITT
>>59396828
I don't think that most of actually believe it, personally I don't actually believe what I say in around 30% of my posts.
But I don't think people here are smart at all, in fact the older I get the more convinced I become that everyone is just dumb.
Want to ask a Serb:.
What religion dominates in your country and does it have political power?
>>59383777
Yes actually, religion isn't necessary for today to keep faith in G-d.
But it helps you with saving time and protect you from making tons of mistakes.
