>In 2009, as hard as it may be to believe, Russia's overall life expectancy was a bit lower than it had been in 1961, almost half a century earlier.
>Over the 40 years between 1965 and 2005, for example, the death rates for men between their late 20s and their mid-50s virtually doubled. Death rates for women in that same age group generally rose by about 50 percent.
>According to estimates by the World Health Organization, life expectancy for a 15-year-old man in 2008 would have been lower in Russia than in Cambodia, Eritrea, or Haiti.
>In 2008, according to World Health Organization estimates, mortality levels for Russia's working-age population were 25 percent higher than those for India's.
What the fuck?
Why do Russians die so easily? How do countries in darkest Africa and places with designated shitting streets have less deaths than Russia?
>>59220735
>he fell for the "Russia is not a shithole" meme
>The GDP growth is consistently negative.
>The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Russia contracted 4.10 percent year-on-year in the third quarter of 2015, following 4.6 percent drop in the previous period and below market expectations.
>http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-growth-annual
>Russia has the highest heroin usage in the world, second only to Afghanistan who happens to be the lead producer of opiates, controlling 93% of the world' market.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_prevalence_of_opiates_use
>Russian Rubles are complete fucking ass, with an exchange rate of 1 USD equal to 65.8560 RUB
>http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=USD&To=RUB
>Salaries shrinking regularly, despite inflation.
>Amid soaring inflation, the average monthly salary across Russia shrank to 31,200 rubles ($500) in January, Gazeta.ru reported Tuesday citing the Economic Development Ministry.
>Inflation is over 15%
>Consumer prices in Russia increased by 15.6 percent year-on-year in October of 2015, down from a 15.7 percent growth in the previous month.
>It was the second straight month the inflation decelerated, as cost of food, transportation and housing rose at a slower pace while clothing and footwear prices went up.
>http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/inflation-cpi
>1 million Russians officially living with HIV
>“It has not justified itself,” Pokrovsky said, noting that the official number of Russians with HIV has grown to some 930,000 people from around 500,000 in 2010.
>http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/15/russian-hiv-aids-epidemic-worsening-under-kremlin-policies-says-expert
>In 2012, the rate of teenage suicides in Russia was three times higher than the world average.[7]
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_in_Russia
>Russia has second worst suicide rate in the world
>http://themoscownews.com/society/20111011/189114308.html
>>59221493
HDI disagrees.
>>59220735
The 90's were a helluva ride.
>>59221546
>HDI disagrees.
What are you talking about?
Russia is in 50th place for HDI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index
>>59221583
That's not what the first line in your copypasta indicates.
>>59221593
50th place is pretty bad m888
>>59221615
50/192 is not a shithole you stupid faggot.
>>59221649
t. Vladimir Ivanovich
>>59221493
>>he fell for the "Russia is not a shithole" meme
he just live in Moscow or Saint petersburg. its rully not a shithole, i'd say it much better than 90% of eastern europe and 50% of central europe. it has european quality of life. probably some other big cities also.
thats why he think that all russia is like this
outside of big cities russia is white camboja
>>59221649
Yes... Yes it is.
Which place does it need to be at in order to be considered a shithole by you? Dead last?
It's LITERALLY on the same spot as Belarus, a country that almost no one in the US even knows exists.
>>59221649
>don't even place in the top 25%
>good
I like Russian people, but their country is a fucking shithole.
>>59221693
i pretty doubt sweden exist
>>59221693
Umm.... Shithole indicates at least in the bottom half of countries.
This says Russia is in the top fourth.
>>59221717
Shithole != not good
Are you this autistic or do you not have reading comprehension?
>>59221678
t. ?
>>59221744
It isn't, it's sitting just outside the 25 percentile.
>>59221770
>Shithole != not good
It being a shithole means it's a shithole you autistic Ruskiboo.
>>59221744
>This says Russia is in the top fourth.
That fucking sucks for a "world superpower".
It's in the same bracket as countries the majority of United States citizens don't even know exist let alone know anything about them. That crosses into shithole-status desu
Come on man I know you're Russian and no one is insulting you personally as a person but let's be real here, it IS a shithole.
:(
>>59221493
I know the suffering of Russians
>>59220735
Cut all infantile alcoholics/junkies from distant villages/northern cities in the middle of nowhere and asian republics like Yakutia, Tyva, Buryatiya or Zabaikalskiy krai (these are extremely violent shitholes with just african level of crime, drug abuse and all that stuff) and it will be on polish/Lithuania level. I mean I drove all the Eastern Europe except balts (From Czechia to Bulgaria), so central Russia is not really worse than any of those countries. Some spects are even better, some (especially our villages) are worse, but not like in that statistics.
>>59220735
>Why do Russians die so easily?
Instead of 1000 words: suicide, heroin, vodka
>>59221686
>50% of central europe.
Good joke ivan. Your country is a shithole
>>59226801
He is right though. Moscow and Piter are better than the whole Poland or Prague for example.
>>59226801
they are not going to invade you again, Pekka, stop shitposting
russia a shit country
full of shit people
and shit everything
that turn everything they touch into shit, just like they are.
The joke is that russophiles don't know anything about Russia but insist that it's better than living in the "hurr durr urh muslim flood" of Europe
Asking the real question:
Was USSR better than actual Russia?
>>59226856
>>59226867
>thread about russia
>buttblasted poles and mongols shitting the thread
every time
>>59226875
Yes. Except 80's though.
>>59226875
it was better so long as these commie kikes were raping the wealth of their "state members"
but no one told them that socialism works so long as you dont run out of the other guy's wealth.
The main issue is that Russia is a big country
>>59226875
>>59226898
wtf are you doing here worrying about the ass end of the world?
it's not like your shitskinned ass "country" has to border them.
>>59226907
In reality if you look at transfer statistics all money in soviet union were transfered from Russia to another soviet republics. The most supported regions were balts, then Ukraine and then central asian republics.
>>59221686
But Russia is a wasteland with famine and anomalies outside of Moscow, St. Petersburg and Tchelyabinsk.
Live fast, die young.
Some don't understand it.
>>59226954
You forgot Yeakterinburg, Novosibirsk, Kazan, Belgorod, Rostov-on-Don. Krasnodar, Nizhniy Novgorod and Sochi.
>>59226843
>>59226898
Why is a poopskin shilling for russia? Shithole defending another?
>>59226801
Welcome to Moscow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvhMjHfT3os
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX6BmsyxVvk
>>59226980
How do you live fast?
>>59226980
Why not just live?
>>59226856
But Russia is touching Poland. Oh...
why do russians take the credit for things ukranians did
>>59227014
Just live like there's no tomorrow for you, it's easy.
>>59227029
Booooriiiiing.
>>59227034
shouldnt you be worrying about uncle samuel getting ready to pounce on your mestizo ass and make you build a wall?
really why you latrino faggots worry about us?
yous got no business here.
>>59227035
Like...? (genuinely want to know what ukrainians ever did).
>>59226929
>>59226999
First of all, I'm white.
Not slav, not mongol. White.
Spout all the memes that you want, you are still being slavs and mongols. I'm still being white.
And second, Russia is a country with many accomplishments, that's why I'm interested in their amazing culture.
Stay butthurt.
>>59227000
Welcome to Russia
>>59227097
>First of all, I'm white.
yeah stopped reading there.
>>59227047
>Just live like there's no tomorrow for you
So turn your whole country into a filthy third world shithole? Oh wait.
>>59227000
>0.01%
>>59227000
But these are literally the surroundings, like 50 km away from Moscow.
>>59227107
I know a different one tbqh.
>>59227097
>memes are true
>>59227114
You live for yourself, dingus. Countries can go fuck itselves.
>>59227089
t-34, sputnik, chernobyl, etc
>>59226999
>>59227107
Welcome to Sochi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTVX22fBsPo
>>59227157
Why not both?
>>59226826
Lel. I've spend few months in Petersburg and I come from a 180k Polish city. It wasn't better, not at all.
Where do you get opinions like that? I mean it's utter bullshit yet you post it.
>>59227144
Wow you got tarmac! That's progress
>>59227186
Defeats the purpose.
>>59227173
How's that ukrainian achievements?
>>59227179
>sochi
Didnt like half of the funding for the olympics go missing due to corruption?
>corruption
welcome to russia
>>59221493
>Russian Rubles are complete fucking ass, with an exchange rate of 1 USD equal to 65.8560 RUB
Nominal exchange rate doesnt matter, it depends on how the currency is set, what matters is how it moves compared to dollar.
>>59227097
Here comes the white Argentinian
>>59226826
Yeah keep telling yourself that. Warsaw is miles ahead of Russia in terms of having a western city feel. Prague is the richest city in all of eastern europe.
>>59227191
>Drive in Finland
>The highway on the map turns out is non asphalted road
>Have to drive for 90kms on non-asphalted roud leaving clouds of dust on farmers' housed around it
>>59227189
I was in Krakow and Lublin for some time, both were worse than Moscow or Piter.
>>59227217
how is it not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCy68CWDKVE
>>59227097
>I'm white
>>59226826
Rude
>>59227267
>Drive in Finland
>The highway on the map turns out is non asphalted road
>Have to drive for 90kms on non-asphalted roud leaving clouds of dust on farmers' housed around it
why lie?
>>59227260
>t. a person who wasn't neither in Moscow or Piter
I was in all of these cities. So no, I would prefer Moscow over any city in Poland or Czechia.
>>59227227
I'm not shilling. I just think Russians have good taste.
>>59227179
>Sochi
>$200 million for 1 kilometer highway
Good example.
>>59227302
Not lie, I was driving to Oulu and that really happened.
Why do people here care so much happens inside Russia? Sure, they are far from the best and got some horrible places but how does that effect you in anyway?
> This thread
>>59226826
But Moscow is like 90s Poland.
t. been to Moscow last November
>>59227142
Putin and his politicians friends take this route everyday, it can't be that bad.
>>59227267
Nice story, too bad you can't afford a gps or read signs
>>59221686
>i'd say it much better than 90% of eastern europe and 50% of central europe
Lol.
Even our shithole is better than yours.
>>59227348
No highway is a dirt road and I'm pretty sure there aren't any dirt roads as long as 90kms
t. I actually come from Oulu
>>59227313
I was in Moscow(yeah 10 years ago) but imho Prague is much better place to live
>>59227364
No one can read those runes Sergei
>>59227267
Worse in what? Tell me, so far you're throwing only generalizations.
When I was in Piter people were poorer then in my city. Sure, the center is nice but not "wooah superb" as in some parts of western Europe. Additonally when I went for a meeting to a commieblock I nearly vomited - the smell of trash and piss was insane on the staircase, not to mentio nthe buldings surroundings. And that was a place where a university PROFESSOR lived, for fuck sake. Literally 4th world tier.
You can't shit me Igor because I've spend too much time in Russia to fall for your bs.
>>59227373
>26 kilometers in 28 minutes by car through Moscow
el o el
>>59227418
> so far you're throwing only generalizations.
Isn't that 99% of the thread?
>>59227452
oh look it's a kike
these "chosen people" turned russia into the shithole it is today.
>>59221686
>muh whites
>>59227313
>I would prefer Moscow over any city in Poland or Czechia.
glad to hear have fun out there and spread this opinion among your friends. Poland is a shithole and you would not like to live here, taste of our gravel can't compare to yours.
>>59227366
Warsaw is like 90's Moscow to be precise.
>>59227376
That was gps that lead me there tbqh.
>>59227387
I doubt you were driving from Petersburg to Oulu.
>>59227418
First of all-greyness, you like to paint even your new houses in grey/brown colors for some reason. Terrible parking/road organization-there are cars driving all around the main square in Krakow, that's not how it should work. There wasn't hot water in my hotel in Krakow and I payed 100$ for a night, people looked poorer, cars were cheaper, everything looked like it was used once and then installed (i mean traffic lights, fences around rounds and stuff. Lack of highways, the most way from Krakow to Lublin I had to drive on 2 sided roads inside some villages with 50km/h speed.
>>59227505
You still didn't answer my question tho
>>59227573
>arguing with a kike and expecting nothign butt schills and lies.
There's only one form of arguing with you bandits and murderers, and thats with a blad and bullet.
Your daily reminder that if youre a none jew and havent killed a kike yet you have failed to avenge your ancestor's lives.
>>59227624
So basically you come to this thread and shit on everyone without providing a single real answer just to feel better about yourself somehow, got it.
>>59227667
Get pipe bombed by Hamas. you fucking nasty kike terrorist
>>59227566
>That was gps that lead me there tbqh.
Let me guess, you were stealing peoples boats from summer cottages?
>>59227566
>Greyness
That's subjective
>Terrible parking/road organization
No idea what you on about, especially considering in Petersburg most people park in fucking mud near commieblocks
>There wasn't hot water in my hotel in Krakow
I traveled all over my God-forsaken country and not once did this happen to me, you must have been born under a unlucky star
>Lack of highways
We've got more and more, but sure it's not western EU level yet.
Still it's rich comming from a Russian because last time I drove from Tallinn to Petersburg I nearly lost a tire because the roads are non-existant I mean I saw holes that were like 1 fucking meter deep. ONE METER DEEP ON A INTERNATIONAL "ROAD".
>some villages with 50km/h speed
We're a high population desity country, much more craped then Russia. 50km/h is the limit in tiny villages, don't see the problem.
>people looked poorer
Where? I can take a picture of people who walk at Nevski next time I'll be in Piter and then a picture of people at Kraków old town and we'll compare it.
But the poor factor is funny because last week I had my mothers friend from Russia visiting us and she also asked us to help her son move to my 180k "poor shithole" from Moscow.
>>59227721
>Let me guess, you were stealing peoples boats from summer cottages?
Is this the new craze Ivan ventures into funland for?
lol go figure.
>>59227720
No I won't
stop picking on russia, Russians on /int/ have done nothing to deserve their country being shit on
>my shit country is better than your shit country: the thread
>>59221693
I visited Russia and I visited your shithole country. I have bad news for you
>>59227798
fuck you too murka
you fucks are no better than they are.
>>59227725
*cramped
>>59227816
That's the thing, Poland is actually not shitty.
>>59227876
>Poland is actually not shitty.
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHH!
>>59227971
You can't even quote posters properly you disgusting fag.
>>59227914
How so? Because you saw few people memeing about it on the Internet?
>>59227914
It is Gregorkzyk.
>>59227995
So I missed a click
So sue me....faggot
>>59228015
Fuck off, you can't even properly post cuntbrain.
>>59220735
Diseases connected to alcohol and tobacco, homicides and accidents. Also cost of human life in Russia has always been low, we have pretty big birth rate compared to the West so human losses are balanced with wombs.
Here is a tip. If young people don't want to live in your country and are looking to emigrate it is fucking shit.
It's literally that simple. No amount of interenet arguments can change that fact.
>>59228048
I gave your mother and sister an sexually transmitted disease.
>>59227743
Breaking and entering to cottages is also pretty popular amongst them
>>59221493
>31,200 rubles ($500)
Only in Moscow, it would be 300$ in provinces.
>>59228111
iktf bro
>>59228088
>he hits and misses
Nice try shiteater. I thought all the kids are in school by now.
>>59228163
you thought shit
shit for brains
>>59221686
lel. serbia is better than russia in literally every way except size
>>59221493
2 million crocodile users
Vodka
Russians doing shit on youtube and liveleak
>>59228142
>>59228142
What???
How can your money have different rates across the country?
>>59228556
top kek
>>59220735
Russians are just animals and they deserve being butchered like pigs
>>59226875
Yes. USSR had #26 HDI
>>59228639
most western folk dont understand is that russia isnt really a country.
It's a "union"
like the american "union"
or the yuropean "yunion"
>>59221686
Even such a backwards depressive shithole as Poland (And we know that a lot of Poles prefer to clean British shit) is a paradise compared yo R*ssia
>>59228698
this tbph
russia = jews + orthodox poles + mongols + tatars (and various other turks) + eskimos + chinks
>>59221686
>he keeps ignoring "third capitals"
>>59228639
Salaries are different in different regions.
>>59227097
>I'm still being white
Oh boy, this old song and dance again...
>>59226875
Mostly it was worse. You could get an apartaments and dacha from the goverment, but you had to queue for decades, you could get a reletevily cheap car, but it was shitty and again you had to queue. Free healthcare but it was like on the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XaCjhkVFds
Products for people (like furniture,appliances) were shitty and people couldn't get any better even if they had money (but mostly they didn't lol)
>>59228938
Yes of course, but that's not what I'm asking.
How can 31,200 ruples be 300 dollars in provinces, while it's 500 dollars in Moscow. If anything it should be the opposite.
>>59228684
t.chechenyan
>>59229016
I once read that getting money in USSR wasn't the problem, the problem was finding stuff to spend it on
>>59229052
(You)
>>59221493
>Ukr*nian diaspora
wew lad
>>59220735
>What the fuck?
>Why do Russians die so easily?
Russia is a hardcore level of difficulty, only for pro players who are playing in game tournaments of life.
Get wrecked noobs, only true gamers play on Russian server.
>>59229052
It's a form of politics moskvite jews are executing to keep the dollar high compared to the ruble.
russians have to come to terms that moscow is as kike dominated as jew york.
and kikes dictate how much currencies exchange for throughout the so called "first world".
Doesnt matter how productive your nation's goyim are, only if they dance to the tune kikes play them.
>>59229066
I'm Tatar
>>59229209
Nice to meet you.
>>59226801
>>59226954
>>59227382
>>59227524
>>59228556
>>59228853
wew lads ever been in Moscow central district? i pretty sure that Warsaw, Bucharest, and Belgrade have nothing to compare with it. you can saqy what you want, but last 5 years Moscow very comfy and good city. and yes it really better than any other european city, including Prague. dont remember that we have 150 millions of people in russia, and 30% of russian companies (from whole russia) working through Moscow, also Moscow aglomeration is 20 mln people. You cant compare Prague Warsaw Belgrade or Bucharest to Moscow, its nothing they can compete in. level and quality of living is much higher here that in any of above. also i think it on level of Berlin or something like that. and yes i mean central Moscow, not outskirts. though London or Paris outskirts is silled with arabs and niggers and whatever else so it even worse. we talking about good parts of the cities. Moscow have nothing to compare with in eastern/central europe. tahts for sure. maybe because it wasnt such 10 years or even 7 years ago you dont think it is, but it is such. comparing Moscow to Warsaw or else if ridiculous. they have nothing to compete. it wasnt such 10 years ago, yes, but it is now. so you can think what you want you can laugh you can say russia is shithole so moscow cant be such, but it is. accept this fact or please leave. and i dont talking about all other russia. its good saying "Moscow is not a russia" which is completely true
>russia
lmoa
>>59230069
![500px-MIBC2016[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cCrCt8t.jpg "500px-MIBC2016[1].jpg")
>>59230337
and now compare moscow center with warsaw center.
![2016-0102-168-Moskva-City-at-Frosty-Sunset-Moscow-Cityscape[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RhpcwWC.jpg "2016-0102-168-Moskva-City-at-Frosty-Sunset-Moscow-Cityscape[1].jpg")
>>59230409
this is not bait cause people really think such way
>>59230447
>le skyshitters
very third world
>>59230482
You think we don't have tall buldings?
I mean are you that retarded?
Plus, do you think it's some kind of fucking progress if they buld a few of those and the rest of the city is shit?
>>59230498
we have this middle ages loads too enough. saint petersburg is enough to compare with warsaw wroclaw and krakow one against three. dont rember it was capital of biggest european empire in history of europe (russian empire rest in peace). i mean placed in europe not in india and australia
>>59230581
>we have this middle ages loads too enough. saint petersburg is enough to compare with warsaw wroclaw and krakow one against three.
>>59230581
Russia got 2 cities that are "ok". Literally 2. Both of them are shit besides the strict center.
The rest is fucking despicable and even a farmer Chink would run from the life that people have there.
>>59230069
true,moscow looks like new york
are there any old buildings left there?(not commieblocks)
>>59230447
it's doesnt matter when you've got a little gem surrounded in a pit of shit.
it's rather pathetic kacaps show off your little "moscow" when the rest of your "country" looks like a poverty stricken medieval war zone.
>>59230537
you have tall buildings i visit skyscrapercity.com and know even name of warsaw skyscrapers. nice tall buildings, now please bro compare it to moscow. and moscow city is not even center it place in outskirts. good outskirts but not center. center of moscow is berlin or higher. you can copmapring russian province with poland or any and it alwyas would worse, but you cant fing any central/eastern european city better than moscow. its on level of good western europe city. worse than london/paris but better than lisbon. and i approve this message
>>59230694
I think you never went to NYC...
>>59230581
>>59230581
>petrohrad
>middle ages
Sure m8
But you are just trolling
>Moscow and St. Petersburg are 1st world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Haha, Russians are so fucking deluded.
>>59230713
But center of moscow is shit. The scrapers don't change anything. They're half empty and just "there" you can even fucking visit them.
That's one of the reasons Rome will be always better then some random city with scrapers. Rome is a city, a organism, it's good and interesting in so many places, unlike Moscow.
>>59230667
i never said russia is good. where in my words did you saw that? russia is white camboja, i wrote it above before. we talking about moscow and i never talked about something other. read my messages with attention please. moscow is better than any city from eastern/central europe. and you cant beat it cause it is true. YES ONLY last 5 years yes. but it is such now. and so whatever you want with this fact
>>59230710
i never denied that. why do you think i deny it? i agree, it is true. why you think i disagree with your point. just we talkiong about moscow. so i said what it is.
>>59230786
>more skyscrapers hurr durr
>better
lad that's not how you measure civilization
by your logic chinks are the masterrace because they produce shitton of huge skyscrapers in their multimillion cities
>>59230732
cmon m8 i know you hate russia,i'm not fond of them either, but you have to admit moscow looks first world with all those skyscrapers
>>59230735
sure i trolling. why the facts is so offensive here. i though i on 4ch not on tumblr. "moscow cant be nice place" "i dont care about facts it just cant be" "my vision is correct cause i agree with it"
>>59230779
better than lisbon for example. what wrong with accepting simple facts? is facts offending you? myabe its time for reddit?
>>59230858
No. I've been to NYC and Moscow. Moscow is far from it. There's like a few skyscrapers in Moscow and if you go 200m away from it it's old windows, shitty rotting wooden doors etc.
>>59230069
What an idiocy. London/Paris shitty outskirts = good outskirt neighborhood in Moscow. Moscow centre is shit with horrible traffic, decaying old buildings and permanent reconstruction. Sobyanin is idiot who spends ton of money to idiocy like bicycle roads and ceased paying the benefits for Moscow people.
>>59229066
>>59230783
>>59230855
come lads why fact that moscow is good place so offensive to you? do you really hate russians that much guys? we are orthodox people now which means christian mental and stuff. thats changing our country into good way. maybe slowly but changing and changes are real.
>>59230779
germans seems hating russians very much. and i was such a friendly to germans all my time in internet... sad
>>59230713
>moscow city is not even center it place in outskirts
What a bullshit, outskirts are Yasenevo or Vyhino, Testovskaya is centre.
>>59230946
yes. why does it cahnge fact that moscow is good european city? just how? we can be bad country with one good city, no?
>>59230977
I see you're a reasonable guy. Why do Russians keep voting for Putin when he's literally Russian version of Aleksandar Pussymouth Vucic?
>>59231036
Don't you get it? I'VE BEEN TO MOSCOW.
IT'S NOT GOOD AS YOU MAKE IT OUT TO BE.
You fucking move your finger over the google maps and make judgements while I'VE BEEN THERE and judge it basing on my irl EXPERIENCE.
I hate you fucking centraal Asians, you lie so much.
>>59231064
>moscow
>good
by Russians standards, yes.
>>59230069
>yes it really better than any other european city,
Fuck off
>>59220735
America nuke please let's end this.
>>59230873
Like I said I was in Moscow and its really meh imho(liked st pete tho)
Its just big(wide streets full of cars)and now with few(empty thanks to crisis) skyscrapers
Vienna, Prague, Krakow, Budapest are all more intersting and comfy cities full of history
Moscow have Dubai complex, its expensive for no reason, hectic and with 1 million rich people and 19 million poor people
Thats just 2nd world city fueled with oil money
>>59230786
>last 5 years
Moscow is becoming more shitty. Sobya in build parks and subway but he also destroys business, Moscow is more and more expensive city to live. Luzhkov took 60% from any deal, Sobyanin takes 80%.
>>59231058
testovskaya? what does that mean? maybe typo i never herad of it?
do ever been in moscow or just heard about in internet. i assume that yes which means that like all russians you hate moscow cause we have much better life here, so come on say bad things about our city. russians always hated moscow past years cause we live better. envy isn't best thing man
>>59231098
where do i lie? how just where? poland was under mongol rule also so you not less mongoloid that me
Moscow is 167 and Petersburg 174 in terms of Quality of Life in cities around the world.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/feb/23/vienna-named-worlds-top-city-for-quality-of-life
La Paz in Bolivia is a better place then Moscow.
>>59231250
>poland was under mongol rule
>pidorussian education
>>59231220
Railway station near Moscow City.
I am from Moscow myself and I've been to Europe, Moscow is comparable to Mexico city or so. Our city is typical developing country megapolis. Mexico city, Buenos Aires or that tier.
>>59231250
>poland was under mongol rule
Ok, now I know you're either baiting or you're just a total retard without any education.
THIS THREAD IS JUST "MOSCOW CANT BE GOOD" "RUSSIA IS WASTELAND" you are such a bigots guys. i thought people on 4ch is only reasonable community in western internet now i see it depends on topic. you behave like tumblr or reddit on things they dont want to here. okay think what you want, i thought you really better guys, my friedns
>>59231289
Here it's in the 2nd 100 as well:
http://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings.jsp
>>59231345
>>59231314
okay okay i cheked poland is exact place which was placed on border of mongol empire and wasnt conquered. it just on border i messed up, sorry. anyway you polacks just same slavs as we russsians dont make it "you asians while we not" no you same slavs that we, you have no differences with us. accept the fact that you just same like ivan but with other names or leave
>>59231468
They aren't the same as you, Russkies are basically finno-ugrics in denial.
>>59220735
> World Health Organization
A.K.A. Jewish Data. Thanks, based russophobe Soros.
>>59231468
Eat shit vanya. We have nothing to do whith you, mongolian subhumans.
>>59220735
I hope you reborn in Russia for this unstandable banter.
wew lads, the memes were true
>>59231496
russia is stretched from europe to japan fron northern pole to middle asia. we can be finno ugrics slavs and whatever russians is mix of all above. exists pure white russians and exists almost asian with narrow eyes russians. we all called russians like same nation without differencies. its because we orthodox and in orthodoxy we all like brothers. like with serbs
by thread topic.
we russians created periodoc table and first color photography in the world. we was only nation that obtain color photography in 19th century as working technology not experiments in labs. and west make it as working technology only in 1940's or so. we was ahead like 50 years. and we was really nice place before 1917. so say what you want but we are not total subhumans and "have our moments". also. so we can build a good nice city that better than other europeans cities, which is true (not better than paris but better than mostly). yes it one city but at least we have one really good city that is really nice. we cn do it till we now orthodox like we was before 1917 when we was russian empire and we wasnt just better than POLAND OR FINLAND WE OWN POLAND AND FINLAND AND WE OWN LITHUANIA AND LATVIA AND ALL OF IT. sorry. russian reflexes
>>59231672
what meme bro?>>59231538
>>59231538
you are pure mix of white people and eskimos you are less white than me, european russian, swed.
>>59231707
You own shit now though, you can even own yourselfs Putinslaves.
>>59231707
you own jack shit, kacapie
>>59231384
>>59231707
>nice place before 1917
>99% of populace can't read, are poor as fuck etc. etc.
"ok"
>>59231736
Butthurt belt
>>59220735
Shill
>>59231771
>>59231794
poland triggered
so now i understand. we cant have good city cause you all hate russians especially >>59230779
this guy
kek.
hate us we russians owned you polaks for 200 years (or whatever i dont remmber) cause we was strong.
>>59231538
AND WE TOOK WHOLE FINLAND FROM YOU SWED AAHHAHAHHAHAHAH WHOLE FINLAND HALF OF YOUR COUNTRY YOU WOULD NEVER TAKE IT BACK AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHGAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
i just mean that we can build a one nice city that all that i want to you understand. we was big one day and ncie country and could conquer all europe. we already owned poland and finland and this wasnt really hard
>>59232046
Just a part of it for 123 years, but you're too dumb to know.
I mean a person from South America can come to this thread and call you a poorfag and it will be true despite the fact that your land shits natural resources.
>>59231957
i can just throw in few memes about straya and it would be same. it applied to any european country also and to usa canada.
britain? muslims
sweden? muslims
usa? fat
straya? rednecks
its just less harmfull. i can do it much better
>>59232086
WE OWN YOU 123 YEARS
123 YEARS BEING OWNED BY RUSSIANS
BY IVAN
STUPID SUBHUMAN IVAN
AHAHHAHAHAHH
AHAHHAHAHAH
AHHAHAHAHHAHa
AHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
AHAHAHHAHAH
>>59231707
>we was really nice place before 1917. so
After.
t. Fix
>>59232046
here's your (you), kacap pussy
>tfw cozy far eastern city
>>59231707
>>we orthodox and in orthodoxy we all like brothers. like with serbs
>he fell for le orthodox brothers meme
>>59232098
I was talking about the other anons
>>59232140
Well it was 3 vs 1.
Even the Spartans lost against Persians when outnumbered.
>>59232162
get off commie. you existence is the reason why polaks and finns laughing at us in this thread. before you jew commies appeared we owned them and you ruined it all. we was strongest country in europe with european life. we was beautiful nice place. we was in top tier in terms of science and all of that. and now what? you commie jews ruined it all.
leave the thread please. its me, white russian (not race but "non commie" meaning) against europeans. i'm all alone and happy now here with my empire and you commie comes in to ruin it all. i won in this thread with russian empire map and you comes to ruin it. when we win to europe we have people inside of us who ruins all anyway. it such a sad moment. MUH EMPIRE REST IN PEACE
commies you ruined it all. our country. whole our country. and now you spreading you ideology over /int/ here.
>>59232265
sorry straya. you comes to thread to support me and i didnt appriciated this. sorry. i really sorry
pretty much this
>>59228684
If there is anywhere in the world faggots die and I truly rejoice its in that mordor to the east of us.
>>59230447
considering the fact Warsaw is like 8x smaller it doesn't even look that bad
>>59232375
COME ON POLAND DONT BE SUCH WE TREATENED YOU VERY GOOD WHEN YOU WAS PART OF OUR EMPIRE. DO YOU REMEMBER THIS?
This is another attack on the Socialist system. The evil empire, spewing ash and smoke and clearly placed in the East, is an image of the workers’ class, which, with sweaty brows, jointly builds heavy industry. They’re supposed to be the repugnant and evil dwarves.
Of course, the son of a bourgeoisie family cannot see anything beautiful or ennobling about hard labor. The residents of the west – a land flowing with milk and honey – are elves (or the aristocracy), people (bourgeoisie), and hobbits (landholders) and live on the other hand in affluence (it’s not explained how they gained this) and the only thing bothering them is the “threat” from the east.
The “forces of good” are presented as a collection of the exponents of these reactionary circles, whose hands have never been touched by hard labor. Their leader is Gandalf, the spreader of this retrograde ideology, with whose help the people are kept unconscious and fearful of Progress.
It comes as no surprise that Saruman, the defender of the oppressed and a friend of Progress, is proclaimed a traitor, and his residence is destroyed by the fanatical retrograde fighters.
When he spreads socialism in the Land, he is caught and punished without trial by the Hobbits, who are supported and paid by Gondor, the Capitalist.
But Socialism luckily cannot be destroyed by throwing some relic, even the holiest relic, into the fire.
Hold on, Mordor, surrounded by enemy reactionary neighbors
>>59232430
it was look even better when we russians owned it before commies ruined it all. finland and poland inside of russia was prosperous till it was part of empire. same baltic countries. you really was prosperous under our rule of you. and then commies ruined it all. what for? just what for?
>>59232355
All g
>>59232473
i would not read commie copypaste. leave the thread and took it with you please
Communist dogshit ruined the entire country
>>59232641
we both was really strong someday. and we was two best empires ever existed. okay three with bizantium.
>>59232517
wow dude we don't want to be a part of any empire we want a country on our own
also we weren't really any prosperous compared to the West
>>59231010
Nohcho pride
![3666px-1867_Moscow_panorama_megapanorama[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UA4U86w.jpg "3666px-1867_Moscow_panorama_megapanorama[1].jpg")
REST IN PEACE SWEET EMPIRE
i will never see you again
>>59232887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5TAJj2_qzQ
>>59232741
look warsaw 19th century photos. if this not prosperous than i dont know what is
and we builded whole helsinki center. and finns love this empire architecture and still have monument for alexander II cause he was very good to finns, in center of helsinki.
you polaks just never appreciated good things russia and austria did to you. you just cant be grateful like finns was to empire. after in 1917 was first NON COMMIE revolution finns even wanted to join new russia back. themselves. but then in october commies made second revolution and russia falls forever, so finns diceded to go on their own. good for them i need to say.
ЛAКEИ ЮHКEPЫ BAЛЬC ШУБEPTA im crying
i really can cry now
commies ruined all of that
>>59232741
You have to understand that since forever russia's national idea is "sword creates power", not humanitarian enlightenment and development.
anyway russia has something good now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1DzZ-AMYuM
new russia have it moments also
>>59233199
and you have to understand we aren't interested in such national idea
>>59220735
High suicide and murder rates
Alcoholism
Drugs and smoking
>>59233344
I know, I'm explaining why you two don't understand each other.
The butthurt belt is real
They're lurking Russia threads 24/7
>>59233476
no
he actually says Poland under the Russian Empire was a prosperous and developed place
>>59233537
You still don't get what I said in the first post. Oh well.
moscow is good city anyway and it's better than any central/eastern european city in terms of quqlity of living. all this thread is just proved this. you cant say nothing against it except saying how bad is other russia. which means that i'm absolutely right folks.
>>59234140
I've been living in Moscow my entire life and the only thing I can say is that you have shit your pants in this thread. Moscow isn't that good, but it's still very good city in post USSR standards. But remember, that almost every Dutch village is better overall.
>>59226856
Russian women are qt.
But dangerous on the other hand.
What happened with your GDP, Russia?
>>59234676
i think you are not from moscow. i never seen guy from moscow think such way. you envy us like all russians
>>59227000
I can feel the mafia from here.
>>59220735
>Russia's overall life expectancy was a bit lower than it had been in 1961
Lets invite anti-communist faggots to explain this.
>>59234723
>>59234827
>>59234790
russia has bad quality of life moscow has very good. i think on same level as spanish cities
>>59234807
+1 to this.
Moscow is way better than most of cities in Europe.
>>59234807
You can protect your wet dreams as long as want, but don't claim that this is the only truth.
>>59234928
>Moscow is way better than most of cities in Europe.
lel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_most_liveable_cities
>>59234866
Either every person on earth lied about 1 billion people dying or the communist government make fake statistics.
>>59234866
whole ussr was a poor country same quality of life like on northern korea. some values like this cant change nothing. you commie just cant see real things. in ussr you coudn't buy car tv or any of that. you even wasnt able to buy normal food. what else need to be say about it? some numbers that was good cant change allother numbers that was awfull. ussr was worst place to live than african countries. it was worst country on the whole planet, maybe even for whole it history. not maybe. it really was.
modern russia can be bad in something but it never would same bad as ussr was. and russian empire was bteer than ussr in all ways with very rare exceptions. such rare that it is even really ridiculous to discuss it. ussr was worse than zimbabwe to live. and zimbabwe is wasteland of wastelands
>>59221686
Well, if you compare eastern parts of Hungary, and average Russia, you get the same shit levels.
>>59235012
>every person brainwashed by anti-communist popahanda
Fix'd.
>>59234999
Well, we have total sitholes like Kuzminki but as overall Moscow bit cleaner than London for example.
>>59234957
envy russian provincial. why you are all non moscovits so envy to us? just build good life where you live. if you cant make it as awesome as moscow have dont blame us blame yourselves.
>>59234999
tell me about paris suburbs french. just tell me and try not to cry while you would do this. ill do it for you, dont worry: niggers, arabs, niggers, niggers, niggers, arabs, and some more arabs and some even little more arabs. and niggers. and even more niggers
>>59235050
>whole ussr was a poor country same quality of life like on northern korea.
Sory but i lold hard here and wasn't able to read all your excuses.
CCCP > Russian Empire
>>59235144
Sort of, I suppose. If 1 billion people didn't die for nothing I don't think anyone would have that big an issue with communism.
>>59235132
avewrage russia is low qulity of life i never said its good in this thread. i only talked about moscow. and no one envy russian provincial, angry polaks, jewcommie russian, and angry finn cant cahnge the truth. moscow is better than any central european or eastern european city
>>59235144
>anti-communist popahanda
how funny you called the facts. no commiejew truth and facts isn not propaganda. just communism was as bad as it was. see to the eyes of truth if you cand are to do it
>>59235189
go live north korea and lol even more hard how bad is life in there. also it pretty same like it was in ussr. its exact copy of what ussr was. ussr was even worse cause ussr have not china aid, which north korea have
>>59235208
nice proxy.
