Why can't modern people built anything so complicated and so beuatiful? The best modern architects can come up with is some glass cube. Or some randomly shaped wierd shit. Ridiculous
Ugly and/or simple is often more material efficient and cheap
>>59062674
Why do you care about how buildings look if you're not the one living in them?
>>59063001
Don't americans live in the buildings? I thought you were at least somewhat civilized.
>>59063001
It's like beautiful art, when I come near op-pic I can't help but stare at it.
>>59062897
Even when modern people try to make something impressive it's shit
>>59063130
As a kid I thought we'd have flying cars and live in domed houses made out of smart material by now.
Instead homes are being built closer together, they're still made out of cheap shit and apartment complexes are becoming a trend, they're also made out of cheap shit. And they're all ugly as fuck.
>>59062674
The Kremlin is ugly.
It's colors don't match, the architecture is laughable, it looks like a fun house or cheap amusement park.
>>59063001
How fucking retarded does one have to be to derive a conclusion such as this?
>>59063869
>kremlin
global boker face
>>59063869
>Kremlin
>>59062674
in the past large masses of people could be forced to build some dream project for the almighty tsar. today you won't even make a tajik work for more than 40 hours. the need to actually pay the workers makes such a project cost more than the new spider man movie. without any box office!
>>59064007
Explain yourself so people can laugh at your stupidity.
>>59064581
It's not just money that's an issue. Russia doesn't have the culture to produce beautiful architecture anymore.
>>59064831
Ironically neither does US
One simple reason:
The people have to much power.
There was a bishop here just a few years ago. He build a new center at his church for 30 million or something. People went fucking mad and he was called back from Rom.
How the hell are you supposed to build anything great if you don't have the money/workforce/power to do it?
Pic related is just some random chruch in some random city. Imagine what it cost in todays money... an no fucks were given back then. It is simply not possible with our societies anymore.
>>59063869
>Kremlin
American education
>>59063372
>tfw I watched this shit heap get built
>>59065058
How dare you mock the monuments to the God-Emperor
>>59062674
>Why can't modern people built anything so complicated and so beuatiful?
I'm sorry I can't take you seriously when you posted that cathedral. It looks like a mish mash of everything but the fucking kitchen sink. Every tower is colored differently, has alternating pattern, and has absolutely no unity and harmony. It's literal trash.
Take the nationalism googles off Vladimir. Russians have good architechture, but the one you posted? Not one of them.
>>59063372
Wow, it looks sooooooo shitty
>>59065058
Oh shit
Bombs fired
>>59065058
weeew even taj mahal in Atlantic city looks better than this golden shit
>>59065729
>cathedral
Kek
That is an orthodox church
>>59065911
>Update
>9/11
>>59064581
Somehow this. Building nowadays have purposes Op, it's not like hundreds and Thousands of years ago when they built just for show off...
>>59062674
Did you know that Russians don't have a word for tacky?
This architecture proves it.
>>59065625
Sören-Malte? Please...
http://kremlin.ru
>>59066064
No, i didn't.
>>59065326
Modern "architecture" is expensive and unpractical too you know, so money shouldn't be an obstacle. Also there's other buildings besides churches.
The thing is we tend to look at all these old edifices through nostalgia goggles. There's a good amount of impressive modern architecture. How do you think architects from the Renaissance would've reacted to say the Sydney Opera? It's impressive in its own right.
>>59064181
Except that is the Kremlin you utter mongoloid.
>>59065326
>an no fucks were given back then.
Even worse, those churches were built over the course of centuries. Imagine nowadays if you can't use your building the year after you started flattening the land.
>>59066309
>Turkish """"education""""
>>59062674
because simple and minimalistic is fashionable. It will change like every fashion
>>59064831
it's not about russia, have you seen what they build in the west today?
1) any "wonder of the world" tier project will not be profitable, since you can just look at it from the outside.
2) you can't force people anymore to build a giant temple for the glory of some jewish god.
>>59066064
OP could make several $100,000,000 and he'd build a home for himself uglier and more tasteless than any modern building. He thinks he's different but he's the same as all the other plebs.
>>59066064
tacky is the same as tasteless (бeзвкycный)
>>59066064
Maybe in your village-like suburb town this would look tacky. But in Moscow at the heart of the red square this looks perfect as major dominant.
Anyway this is not even typical of russian architecture and you are probably some 14 year old know-nothing
They could have done something humongously beautiful when they were building our new capital in 1960, but they did everything with shitty modern architecture.
At leats no one mentionned the Sagrada Familia
>>59067543
I've never been to Brasilia, but everything I've read about it makes it sound like the perfect storm of bad decisions. Like Canberra on cocaine.
>>59062674
I agree. Modern architecture is awful, unfortunately the old ways of building stuff are too expensive. Modern architecture is usually about effectivity, the beauty of a building - the art, is gone.
It was a loooong and expensive process building those castles and churches you see in historical parts of European cities. The vast majority of houses were just small wooden houses that are long gone (at least in northern europe) - its not as if the ordinary person lived in a stone castle.
Theres some Swedish finance guy building a new headquarter for his business in some Swedish city. He has chosen to build it in 1890's style, not that old but better than the glas boxes of the 2000's, anyway it is going to cost an extra 30 % in construction costs compared to normal modern buildings.
Anyway, if anyones interested in old architechture they are currently building a castle in france using techniques and materials available at that time, I think they have been building it for 20 years or something, and plan to finish within 10.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%C3%A9delon_Castle
>>59068015
> some people unironically defend modern architecture
>>59062674
everytime i see this i think the building is made of candy because of the colors, like the house made of candy of Hansel and Gretel story
I would love to see that bombed to shit by B52s.
>>59062674
a fucking doll house
>>59062674
There's some modern architecture copying old styles.
>>59066405
take off the ugly commie stars already
>>59067024
>Anyway this is not even typical of russian architecture and you are probably some 14 year old know-nothing
I know that. St. Basil's looks nothing like a normal Orthodox church and nothing like normal Russian architecture. It's a completely singular construction and it isn't quite clear where or what the architects were inspired by, except that Ivan the Terrible was so awed by the cathedral that he had the architects blinded so they could never design anything so beautiful again.
>>59064581
>in the past large masses of people could be forced to build some dream project for the almighty tsar
eg. St. Petersburg
Because architectural beauty really comes over time.
For example, everyone thought the Eiffel tower looked like an eyesore. Now it's one of the most recognizable structures in the world.
>>59071736
the church on your pic was built in this century actually. a reconstruction but still...
>>59071798
Nobody is ever going to think the soulless glass buildings going up in London right now are anything other than they are today. Which is to say, fucking SHIT
>>59071903
I kind of figured that commies demolished the original building.
There are several reasons
1) Beautiful buildings worth preserving are present today, not everything built in the past was a masterpiece, but most "generic" and ugly buildings were replaced.
2) Contemporary architects are actually capable of designing a "classic" building, and often do, but it is usually expensive and is not what most clients are looking for. People forget that the client is a huge influence on the overal design of a building.
3) We have access to a wider and more efficient range of materials and that allows us to create buildings that take better advantage of its environment, but in order to do so the building must adapt a different morphology. Thanks to this we have more access to natural light, are able to capture rain, use solar power, etc.
I could continue listing more reasons if you want me to, but this should cover pretty much everything.
I'll post buildings designed by several pritzker prize winners, just to shed some light on the beauty of contemporary architecture (not to be confused with modern architecture).
I think everyone can appreciate the Sydney Opera House by Jorn Utzon
>>59063869
>Kremlin
>American education
>>59068124
Hahaha I thought I was the only one.
>>59072071
>>59063372
Blame new age art.
>>59067024
Ignore that dipshit. Summer cabin architecture is often pretty nice, shame my photos were on my old pc. Do you have any?
I think Italy is the only developed country that actually has a semblance of traditional architecture. Our towns are well preserved.
>>59074608
Have any examples?
>>59074641
Google literally any Italian town and you'll see mostly traditional architecture unless it's some place with a shitton of industries like Milan.
>>59074690
I don't disbelieve you, I just wonder if you have any particularly nice towns in mind, I can google my own photos
>>59063869
>Kremlin
>>59062897
beautiful buildings increase the area's land value
>>59074716
Florence is an obvious example. The entire city is basically a museum.
>>59062674
Because everything must look the same, no place for uniqueness and culture in the future.
>>59063372
kek it looks like a Transformer
>>59068124
You're not the only one.
The desire for further efficiency in all things, as well as our ability to produce lighter and more structurally superior materials has, naturally, refined the designs for projects that are so large and resource draining. This is a good thing.
The problem is in artists applying the resulting aesthetic from refined utility designs to artistic designs, which by definition are against resource efficiency to begin with, because the purpose is art.
Also, take into account the new standards for earthquake safety, technology, and utility integration.
Can you imagine the state announcing that it would fund the construction of something as grand as the OP image? At least where I live, there would be an outrage because it would just require so much money and resources. It'd be a waste.
As long as old structures still remain, I doubt many architects see the need to go back to them. It's always about the hot new thing. Times were different back then. It'll only get crazier from here on out.
Not enough of the right kinda knaves anymore. Decadence like that is reserved for private residences of rich people.
>>59072273
Dude that designed that never saw it finished. I think he was a pedo who was banned from Australia.
the west has entered its final stage of degeneration by rejecting tradition and embracing ugliness
>>59067543
I quite enjoy this architecture, makes the unbelievable shitshow of Brazil's politics even more surrealistic
I did neoclassic design but I think I'm in the minority on here. I've always had a hard on for ancient Rome though. Probably my favorite monument on earth.
>>59067935
Brazil makes the US government look like saints when it comes to domestic policy. They rip off their citizens in plain sight and don't fucking care who knows it.
>>59062674
Jesus fucking Christ that's ugly
>>59065058
Russians confirmed as trumps new target
If I had to guess it's because old beautiful architecture all relied on very similar shapes and angles, and those designs now make those buildings look old regardless of if they are or not.
So people these days try to use unconventional angles and shapes and building end up looking like hot garbage because of it
>>59075578
It's fantastic and easily the most beautiful building on the planet.
>>59062674
Why you think onion domes are complicated and beautiful?
>>59062674
Because crafting takes time, and time is money. So people consider them "unafordable" nowadays.
So be thankfull and pretend to be impressed by the huge cubs.
>>59062674
No attention to detail, no pictures and statues, no ornaments. No floral motives especially.
