Will america forever be the world's greatest super power? There are literally no other good contenders
>china
>will collapse under its own weight and shitty investments
>india
>implying
>any european country
>too small to be significant
>a truly united eu
>IMPLYING LOL
>will rome forever be the world's greatest super power
>will ottoman empire forever be the world's greatest super power
>will British empire forever be the world greatest super power
>will X empire forever be the world's greatest super power
Does this answer your question?
>>59029706
No, obviously not.
The celebration?
>>59029706
>fallacies up the ass
Finns are mad today.
>>59029722
No empire has ever lasted. Even the greatest empires have fallen due to many small mistakes/enemies/threats not necessary because they had one big contender. And then there's empire which have just fallen because their ship has become too large to steer, eventually hitting the iceberg.
>>59029706
not even a comparison
the entire EU combined has, at tops, 10% the military power of the united states. what kind of cucketry is this
>>59029756
>finns still butthurt about their lost empire in they hyperwar
>>59029706
The Finn is right.
It's all relative, we would think that America would be the super power forever, cause it's big and it seems so stable.
>People thought that about Rome.
Even on the platform of Democracy, and how much the Romans advanced technologically and socially, they fell.
>No country will last forever.
>Every country's days are numbered.
>>59029756
Had you asked Islamic world in the 1000 AD how would they think their empire/society would collapse, they sure as hell wouldn't think it would because of Mongol invasion or European nations getting their shit together. Had you asked Chinese empire pre-1400 they sure as hell wouldn't have said they would be obsolete world power due to closing their borders. Things just happen.
No
The greatest power will move from place to place
>>59029880
Funny how the jews always seem to travel along with it.
>>59029914
It's almost as if they should be totally destroyed. Forever.
It's almost as if Hitler was right.
Poland is the next super power 2bh
>>59029706
Nah we're fucked in time. But you want us to be in power. Without us, you're all fucked militarily. You need us.
But you guys are always right, Americans are foolish.
all empires fall, that is a historical constant
except ours though, lol
>>59029775
We have enough nukes to destroy all your biggest cities and bases, and litteraly make USA a 3rd world cunt.
Army is pointless at this point.
>>59030090
You are clearly not informed of the word "Defense"
Bitch there is a reason why we survived the Cold War
>>59029822
America may lose its position as the world's number one nation but barring some kind of apocalyptic situation it will never be destroyed like Rome was. Great Britain would be a better example, they were the world's #1 superpower, completely lost their empire but britain itself still exists and it still has strong ties to its former holdings. The same with the Soviet Union, they lost their empire but Russia isn't going anywhere.
>>59030048
this. already invested all my savings into eastern Poland
>>59029706
Ottoman Empire HAHAHAH
You mean those slavers and rapists sitting atop a trade route? Yeah they were totally not Europe's dying man for generations.
World power #1
After they lost the siege of Vienna it was literally a path to destruction from there propped up by necessity from world markets.
>>59030090
sure nukes are great at keeping people from invading you, but they don't do shit to project power. How exactly does having nukes allow you to keep extremists from seizing power in burkina faso?
>>59030128
You think rome was destroyed in a week,or a year? It took centuries, 476 ad was an arbitrary decision.
>>59030151
>>59030128
>>59030114
>>59030087
Do you Euros notice how different these countries' posts are?
Nice job Canada. You failed. You established a reputation below Aussies. (Aussies are fun af desu though)
>>59030194
of course, but what I meant was that Rome was dismantled to a degree that I don't really see as possible for America
a case could be made that Italy itself is simply a geographical construct and that no true successor state to Rome exists
>>59030179
There comes the projection force of France and UK.
We have both aircraft carriers, cargos and France has a lot of good allies in Africa.
You seem to forget that France and UK together are probably the second most powerfull army in the world.
>>59030260
What about Russia + China? Or Russia + India? LOL
>>59030260
I haven't forgotten, and I do admire France's interventions in west africa but the capacity to project power of france/britain is truly nothing compared to america's.
I think the russians might argue against your claim btw.
>>59029756
>fallacies
Finally another intellectual thinker on 4chan.org. I tip my hat to you good sir.
>>59030253
Eh,unthinkable things happened throughout history..
I can't see how italy could be seen as a Rome successor anyway, our strenght comes from the diversity tha came after
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI_Oe-jtgdI
About time you all remember this song. We got trouble. We are invincible, but we can easily rot from the inside out - as all great civilizations do.
>>59030296
Shitty equipment, no aircraft carrier atm.
Huehueh
Dumbass.
>>59030298
Of course you're the most powerfull oh jesus Christ nobody said otherwise.
But here come the nukes.
Russia's projection approaches zero. Since we fucked them with the mistral's sale.
>>59030128
Isn't Britain still the largest nation in the world? If you combine Canada and Australia and Britain I net its bigger than Russia
>>59030114
>Bitch there is a reason why we survived the Cold War
Because nobody fired nukes you fat ass
If you seriously think your defences can stop 500 nuclear warheads travelling at Mach 24, you're delusional.
>>59030364
I'm educated.
You are a shitposter.
>>59030128
You don''t know how long humans will be around. Do you really think America will be here 10,000 years from now?
>>59030353
They don't make money off of you kiddo. But they do make blood.
>>59030435
>kiddo
>But they do make blood.
What the fuck are you talking about
>>59030451
Really? They used your people for war.
Ergo, since they don't make money from you like he French do from their colonies, They 'make' blood.
Understand? Or what too complicated.
>>59030491
>Ergo
>Understand? Or what too complicated
Please tell me you're memeing and not this much of a fuckhead
>>59030510
They used you blood for their own circumstances. And you're what now? Defending it?
If we're talking memes here, Straya Cunt, you're a Cuck.
>>59030545
Wow you really are that much of a dickhead...
Good luck with that
>>59030558
I'd rather be a dick than a pussy.
>>59030572
>>59030605
Hey man, I had fun shitposting with you but I gotta sleep. Take care.
>>59030635
nn tc
China is making some ground, but they're too commie to get anywhere and they have a large peasant population that just might revolt
>>59029662
You are not superpower anymore. Yet.
this trigger """"superpower"""" citizens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3twxDhdAoY0
China won't be a superpower because it's a totalitarian state and dictatorships always run terribly and inefficiently. The best you can hope for is an ersatz superpower like the Soviet Union of the 70s-80s which however had numerous structural weaknesses that led to its downfall a few short years later.
>>59030699
only cucks agree with 100% free market
>>59030732
We're supposed to be triggered by your bydlo army and its rusted 1970s equipment?
USA has the worser ideology that just people can imagine. Cucks in culture sphere, free market in economics and best friends with sand saudi fanatics.
Fuck off, I non inronically hope that your ancestor will speak spanish and mexican will rule you.
>>59030769
Take Crimea "back", kurwa. Just try. It will be new Vietnam.
Also Poland is our allie
>>59030769
Why you are bying 70's-tier techik, kurwa?
>>59030769
If you are powerfull why are you so small?
>>59030782
I agree, we are reaping what we have sown.
>>59030893
>>59030869
>>59030796
>>59030755
This is the same Kremlinbot from yesterday except he doesn't have his proxies on. Same grammar and phrasing, plus he's on /int/ at the same time of day.
India and China are both facing such severe environmental catastrophes that either's reign would be short-lived.
>>59030921
I didn't write anything yesterday about USA, retard, I'm not even a big patriot of modern Russia, because it's going into islamization, but I respect it because it shows your ""superpower"" it's real place.
Not commiefag, but even in USSR people had more rights that in your cunt. You are really retard if you agree to live in modern USA.
>>59030921
stay cucked
I hope it will be 180 mln of mexican bros in USA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZByZlcxUVjM
60 millions yet
and you know what
they are better than anglo cult followers
This is the future of mankind. The Chicano revolution will steal 1/5 of America's economy and most of its oil and gas
>>59031015
Parle humain. T'es un canadien.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0giWOmO6_M
I hate your anglo cucked """civilization"""
you created feminism, multiculturalism and another shit because can't solve the national problems in your cunts
>>59031023
Nice try, but west Poland never will be germanian again. Fuck their imperialism. If they are imperialist - they always can make a german communites in USA.
>>59030921
I genuinely thought it was someone trying to mock Russia using a proxy, kek
>>59029662
>Thinking a superpower can last forever
>American Education
>This threads still continues
And it doesn't even have anything to do with OPs post anymore... as usual. But do keep posting.
>>59030796
>Poland is our allie
KEK
>>59031064
It is not part of Germany
>>59031046
>>59031064
>>59031019
Wow I sure am sad that I live in a society where gay people have rights, and we don't go randomly beating up people just because they look different from us.
I sure am sad that our leadership isn't a corrupt narcissistic midget syphoning off our wealth to his own pocket.
You sure showed us Russia.
>>59031067
https://desustorage.org/int/thread/58979019/#q58981916
This is him yesterday spamming Putin propaganda points with Poland and Latvia proxies. Note again that it was at the same time of day as the current thread.
60 millions, 60 millions
>>59031095
russian imperialfaggots hate Poland, but the truth is 10% of """russians""" are poles by blood (or west russians from Belarus, but in cultural sense it's the same things)
and Poland is our allie against Ukraine
Americans are fucking retards they are making a reason why NATO will go to chuj, because poles never will support ukrainian nazis
>that russian who deleted his post real quick
wew lad
>>59031138
I didn't do this, kurwa.
>>59031121
Don't mish up gay and LGBT. I can understand that gay can have feeling, but LGBT is totally degeneration for retards. They have more sexual """partners""" at 1 month that normal people have for the whole live.
And you are brainwashed if you think that muslims can bring their arabian culture at Canada.
>>59031121
abortion should be banned, you are cuck if you don't think so
also anglos always talking about tolerance, but you are language nazis
French will be great again at North America
French and Spanish
>>59031139
Stop using memes. Poland hates you
>>59031175
>I think these people are sluts so I'm going to beat them up
>they are the degenerates
Also here is what you don't understand about America (Canada is basically America, don't kid yourself), after a few generations everyone becomes american. The "muslims" here will be just as muslim as we are christian in a few decades anyways, it really doesn't matter.
>>59031194
What does abortion have to do with your country being a shithole and mine being amazing?
>>59029662
Everything will be better with more Greece.
>>59031224
Poles didn't burn russian flag and didn't make this kind of music about russians:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxSfnrh1l8Y
and a lot of """""russians"""""" are poles by blood
>>59031244
you country isn't principially better. you have A VERY BIT better building, but have total crazy herring whores.
we have hiding feminism too,but not TOO KEKED as yours
>>59031293
>I will just ignore the evidence and continue with my delusion
The advent of the internet literally changes *everything.*
There will be no cataclysmic collapse of a major world power in the modern day. How could you be so shortsighted as to claim such?
a pole sing that NATO should be destroyed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gni78FkSnKg
>WE ARE ALLIES IVAN(((99999
also fuck Kosovo, this country shouldn't existed
>>59031293
God your english is shit
>>59030151
Of course it would be the Kurd diaspora
Hello my friend how have you been
Only if they start celebrating Easter.
>>59031342
Я гoтoв oцeнить твoй pyccкий.
>>59031313
you are cucked too, in your cunt feminism is crazy and if wife will beat you YOU will be arrested
so go to chuj
I understand why catalonians wanna run from it
>>59029662
America debt is more than 17 trillion. At this point, it is not about finding the superpower but about finding which one will survive.
>>59031317
Sure thing. America as we know it is alredy changing. Chicanos are the future of America,and lets see if they feel any connection to the current US.
>>59031388
I don't speak your heathen gibberish
>>59031342
we are calling feminist bitches "herrings" on 2ch, because they are herrings
>>59031388
>Russia
>Talking about cucking
You abort more children than they are born. Your country is 15% and rising, and your woman are the most degenerate on earth. No one likes Russia except Siria. Sorry,Poland hates you,and it makes sense looking how you treated them through out history
>>59031412
Why are they herrings
You're talking shit. Explain yourself
>>59031406
You don't know who English sounds for non-natives. French is better in everything.
>>59031121
Fuck off you faggot
>>59031435
lol, a real pro-feminist cuck on imageboards
they are herrings because they are smell like herrings
>>59029662
>shitty investments
Amerifats trying to act like their gouvernment and big jew banks aren't in an economical war trying to slow and kill the chink economy, i'm glad you're failling
>>59031445
how*
And no I don't because we fucking won so you must learn my language not the other way around.
>>59031448
Boris! I see you found a german proxy.
>>59031397
>Chicanos are the future of America
No biggie. Latinos come here to seek better lives, not suicide bomb cities. God bless people that come to the U.S. to free themselves from the oppressive shit they lived in. That's the American dream.
>>59031433
>your womEn are the most degenerate on earth
>>59031456
Hmm that's pretty pedestrian.
Just call them what they are: Whores who need forced blacking
>>59031471
You're just an idiot. If you seriously believe the LGBT community deserves any respect you're probably a faggot yourself. I have nothing againsr Gays but the Gay parades in America make me fucking sick
>>59031433
>your woman are the most degenerate on earth
>>59031462
No, I don't do this. I know it only because I was learning it at school, but, seriously, for what I need English? To read retard shit about how feminism is great? Or read about 6000 years old Earth? Or about how sharia is good for anglos?
>>59031525
this
and this kind of faggots are always showing their families, but actually they can even have sex in toilet with strangers
>>59031525
Oh, the parades?
We like them here because they bring in lots of tourism money for the city. Nobody really thinks about the fags anymore.
>>59029775
>10%
France and UK combined would already be close in everything but the number of aircrafts. Add in the lesser armies of EU countries and it would be close match.
>>59031562
Europe like parades too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7EbAsWux-w
but don't be sad, I think Quebec will have the same soon
>>59029706
willl rome forever be the world's greatest super power
Technically they still are. Our entire society is build on their foundations and planning , not to mention that the Papacy is almost a direct descendant of the Roman government
>will ottoman empire forever be the world's greatest super power
They never were, they were a pirate super state that only conquered very weak lands and never invested in them.
>will British empire forever be the world greatest super power
Same for the British , they never really conquered anyone, India being the exception although it was dually ruled with the local Kings, they simply colonized and empty and weak lands.
>>59031592
No one that matters cares about Catholicism
>>59031586
t. Pierre posting under a proxy
Put your leaf back on.
>>59031479
Chicanos may idenyify more with Mexico as time goes,thanks to people like Trump. Places like California and Texas (the 2 most important states) alredy have majority Chicano. Your future will have some inner tensions for sure,like it or not.
>>59031642
I know but it's the fact that the body still exists indicate an indirect continuation of the Roman government
>>59031666
Show me one part of my post where I would disagree with you, Satan.
>>59031683
Rome has nothing to do with Catholicism besides >muh symbolism
Shit's ancient, modern Catholicism is cancerously universal
Probably the end of the US Empire would require:
1 - Mexico collapses into drug warlord statelets that is able to extend their tentacles into the USA.
2 - Major trouble with non-white minorities. Asians and Native Americans are too small to cause any trouble, and the former are too rich in general to be a problem. Muslims, while a problem in Europe, are also too thin on the ground and to devised to cause a major crisis.
So it the aforementioned Mexican cartels, plus perhaps a newly (re)-radicalised Black population lauching large terrorist attacks. Maybe the SJW will (stupidly) agitate for a Palestinian solution for African Americans?
3 - The upshot is that, for the first time since 1860, the USA has domestic trouble on such a scale that requires large number of police and army forces to be deployed in the USA and its intimidate neighbours.
4 - This would leave US allies in East Asia, the Middle East and Europe in lurch, as they have developed their military spending and planning (or lack thereof) on a US alliance.
5 - Somebody in "anti-American" sphere (Russia, China, North Korea, Iran or Sunni extremists) will realize this weakness and press an attack against US allies (South Korea, Taiwan, the Gulf emirates, etc). Then another one will attack, either coordinating with other or (more likely) opportunistically taking an opening. The US, burned with domestic commitments, will have now choose which wars to fight.
6 - This encourages others to attack, and for the USA to abandon lower priority allies. The remained begin to reorient their future around a post-US future. Japan fullish abolish Article 6 of their constitution. The European nations rearm in the face of Russia, either as a single entity or as separate nations.
>>59031727
The structure of the Papacy is based directly on the Roman government, us you ignored everything I said about our society
t. History student
>>59031765
The pope is a fucking muppet
Who cares about him/her? Oh, another ELECTED interpreter? Can't contain my laughs
>>59031817
>her
>HER
Nigga what
>>59031833
Maybe I'm ignorant. Is Catholicism sexist enough to prevent a female Pope?
>>59031817
Your missing the point. Dont be a fool. All the empires after the fall of Rome have tried to resemble it. First it was the church,then Spain,then France,then France and then the US.
>>59031866
Sexist? Wtf is wrong with you. You must be trolling.
>>59031906
What are you trying to say? I was talking about the similarities of how western societies worked with respect to the ancient Roman empire.
>>59031938
Tell me how fast the ancient empires' internet speed was
>>59032003
What? I was talking about the similarities between Rome and the later european empires.
And internet is a double edge sword. It can also speed up revolutions and allow to coordinate strikes faster.
>>59032003
>Tell me how fast the ancient empires' internet speed was
Four times as fast as modern Australia's.
>>59032058
Congratulations for responding without seeing the chain.
>>59032070
Don't talk to my hat like that.
>>59032091
What chain retard. I was talking about culture and you just linked a comment about america being untouchable.
>>59032137
You can talk about unrelated, irrelevant topics in /lat/ or /esp/ Diego. Peace out, you're high or drunk.
>>59032195
>Israel guy talks about how Roman ingluence is still alive
>You miss the point
>I clarify it
>You miss the point again
How can you be this dumb?
>>59032070
you think that's funny
i will penetrate you anally
>>59032340
>I" was talking about culture"
>no one else was
Wew!
I thought Americans were supposed to be the retarded ones :^)
>>59032421
>Technically they still are. Our entire society is build on their foundations and planning , not to mention that the Papacy is almost a direct descendant of the Roman government
>>59031592
Ok Retard. Just learn how to read.
>>59032477
That's entirely political, not cultural you fucking mongoloid. You live in Spain, you should know what culture is, yeah? :^) "Muh Yuro" and all that, right?
>>59032393
>>59032393
>i will penetrate you anally
>I'm not penetrated monthly by my cell phone carrier and telcoms.
>>59032523
>Politics have nothing to do with culture
The cultural influence of the current political entities with the ancient Roman empire are obvious. Just take a look at things like a central goverment or trying to homogenize society with a dingle language. You mongoloid should stop making a fool out of yourself.
>>59032601
>i'm drunk, high or confused so i'm going for damage control
Loud and clear bub.
Not all russians mad like this one, I swear.
>>59029706
The past (isn't always) applicable for the future.
Situations are complex, man.
>>59029662
*Cries in Portuguese
>>59034244
But it usually is especially when there are near infinite examples of the same thing repeating over and over again
Empires will undoubtedly fall. We've learned this from history. The question is if it will be 100 years or 500 years from now.
What happens if China ends up taking over?
>>59029662
forever is a long time you know
>>59029662
>>59034573
I don't think China will take over, objectively speaking America has won the cultural war through Hollywood, at least while we're alive, but it may be different for our grandchildren.
China only assembles iPhones, they're the factory for the world
>>59031317
>There will be no cataclysmic collapse of a major world power in the modern day
The internet would actually be one of the factors enabling the collapse to spread further than ever before, because now we will experience a global collapse as a result of America colapsing.
>>59031023
>Greater ISIS
>not Great Israel
>>59030151
FUCKING LEAFFFF
