Question for /nord/: if Russia was to collapse, would you agree with Karelia becoming a Nordic country? What about Ingria (Leningrad Oblast), Murmansk Oblast, Nenetsia (Nenets Autonomous Okrug) Arkhangelsk Oblast and Komi Republic, basically the Russian Barents region? And should Murmansk Oblast become an independent country for the Sami?
Well?
I would like to see the Finno-Ugric people become independent countries.
>>58992203
Me too
>>58992290
What part of Russia do you live in?
>>58991326
>Russians
>Nordic
>>58992802
Karelia could sneak in with its finnic population, the komis too
And why not russians? Everything is possible, we were a third world country a hundred years ago
btw what do you think, is it likely for Russia to collapse like the Soviet union after Putin?
>>58993008
>Karelia could sneak in with its finnic population, the komis too
Karelia is something like 88% Slavic.
>btw what do you think, is it likely for Russia to collapse like the Soviet union after Putin?
No, I haven't heard of any separatism in non-islamic republics. We can't exclude Chinese or American intervention though.
>>58993528
There was some arrests in Karelia a couple years ago due to separatist actions and I heard that there is a strong regionalist spirit in Yakutia and Siberia
I think it would be better for russians too that Russia would be in smaller pieces, it would be easier to control corruption and all money wouldn't flow into Moscow and big cities from other part of the country
Where in Russia do you live in?
>>58994203
>There was some arrests in Karelia a couple years ago
Nothing surprising. There are always people who want to get their own piece of power. I doesn't necessarily mean that people really support them.
>Where in Russia do you live in?
Saratov, Volga region
>>58993528
Slavic-speaking =/= Slavic
Even Putin is a fucking Finn (Vepsian)
>frozen shits discuissing frozen shit
top lmoüö
>>58995276
Croa.. Croazia? Croatia? What is it, a brand of paprika?
>>58995491
F... F... Finl... Frozen shithole.
>>58994932
I wasn't talking about languages, it's about self-identification. We doesn't differ Finno-Ugric Russians from Slavic Russians (they're mostly mixed anyway), most of the people doesn't even know that we have Finno-Ugric admixture.
>>58995668
>We doesn't
*we don't
>>58995608
>50% percent less money
Wow, you're just jealous because you can never be a part of greater finnic northern union :DDD
>>58991326
If you'll get all this territory so finns become a minority.
Also.
we don't mind
>>58996805
The idea was that the oblasts would become independent countries, not that there would be a Greater Finland
>>58995905
and see 200% more sun each year
>>58997046
Nouse Inkeri!
>>58998937
Viel päiväs' koittaa!
>>58991326
Vyborg is righful Swedish clay
>>58998937
But in reality tho, Ingermanland is pretty much lost
We would need to pull some next level reforms and mass assimilations before Leningrad Oblast could be Ingermanland again
>>58999324
>Hide post
>>58999375
>Deletes your bank account
>>58999375
I live in Oblast' whole my life, all people here know Finland as shop, not as friend.
And I saw separatists once, they aren't Inkeri or local Finns in general.
>>58999375
look at this
>>58999989
There's a lot of pictures of finnish stuff, is it some kind of pro-finnish separatist page?
I can't read cyrillic
>>58992802
>What's Holmgard.
>>58999698
Finland as shop? Are things cheaper in Finland than in Leningrad Oblast?
It's too bad you don't see us as friends, it would be good that russians and finns would get along especially due to the sanctions and whatnot which causes us both to suffer
>>58995905
>>58997047
Croats making less babies than Finns? WTF?
>>58991326
yes, pls annex.
t. former Karelian descedant
>>59001359
Do you live in Karelia?
>>58991326
But if Putin's "Grand Mother Russia" party has been so popular in recent years, shouldn't that mean the majority of Russians are patriotic and not want for Russia to break up?
Is Russian break-up / collapse a real possibility?
>>59001571
Putin is the main reason why the party is popular
When Putin is gone, what then? Is it going to be the 90's all over again in Russia? If the next leader is incompetent enough I believe there will be feelings that "we would be better off as our own country"
>>59001794
Does Putin have any protégé?
What about Mevdevdev-sama?
>>59001443
unfortunatly not. But I'd come back to the roots in that case.
>>59001263
>Finland as shop? Are things cheaper in Finland than in Leningrad Oblast?
No, just USSR mentality of people, who think that all foreign goods are better than our. Nowadays after 2014 almost no one comes to Finland for shopping.
>>58991326
That's literally how Finland looks like every time I play any autistic strategy game
>>58993008
>finnic population, the komis too
how do you distinguish them
>>59001934
Medvedev was a substituting president thou.
>>59001934
If Medvedev becomes the next leader after Putin authoritarian style of ruling, Russia is kaput
>>59001968
Where do you live at the moment?
>>59002238
If they say that they are karelians or komis, in my eyes they are karelians or komis
Of course talking the language is also a good indicator
>>59002464
South and I suffer. I miss that frozen full of ice Northern land with autistic ppl. I mean I miss genetically since I was born here.
>>58992802
>Fingols
>Nordic
>>59001105
Yes, I sure they are fapping on Finland evry night :DDDDDD
>>59001263
about friendship (and magic :DDD) I
totally agree with you.
>>59004591
>>59004780
Hai guis its spurdo spärde time :DDDDDD
>>58991326
Wat? :DD Komi Republig? :DDDD More liek GOMMIE REPUBLIG :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>59007833
N
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0wK6s-6cbo
>>59007793
Pekka you dun goofd
It's funny that I ask a question for /nord/ and I get a shitposting croat and turks :DD
The russians I understand, since the question was practically about them
>>58999324
Mykola, pleeeez
>>59009622
But we ARE /nord/ nao :DDD Allaxu Eggber :DDDDDDD
>>59001934
Putin-sama wa tsuyoi tiimu ga arimasu.
It's wrong to think that Putin is a Jack of all skills, an ompipotent omnipresent Halfgod.. His lieutenants are managing a lot for him.
If he would die, they will stay.
>>59009622
Thank you for this Thread, bro.
I hope that Russian-Finnish relations will be as well as this thread.
>>59001263
We Will Never Forget.
>>59009938
They are good since Paasikivi-Kekkonen.
>>58991326
sure, Ingria will become it's won country with 3000 ingrians and 10+ million russians
use your fucking brain
>>59009848
Muhtar, you are not invited ITT.
>>59010121
Just like Eesti. LOL
>>59010210
900 000 and 250 000 LOL
>>58991326
Idk. I'd rather karelia be part of finland as it had always been but present karelia is not really worth anything and would be a financial strain to develop for finland
t. 75% karelian in diaspora
>>59010169
Why do you make me sad mountain friend? ;_;
>>59010334
dorks no friends
>>59009998
Nice, have you been in finland?
t. Fennoswiss
>>59010254
I used to think that you actually WON that war...
Now, I see that you delivered Karelians to Russia.
>>59010436
Try to be nice, at least he is in his homeland just bantering and not actually one of those guys living in germny going 100% germanic muslim mode
>>59010519
This cheese was imported in MEGATONS by the Soviets.
That's why "We Will Never Forget"
>>59010597
Visa-free for dorks in EU soon.
Congrads, my friend!
>>59010436
Rude people no friend.
Friendship ended with Swissland, Now Finland is my best friend
>>59010597
Thanks cousin :DDD
>>59010718
You...
>>59010836
:DDDDD
>>59010962
"Volodya, dat turking guy... What should we do with him?"
>it's a "finnish cuck makes a thread sucking russians off and wishing they'd dominate his asshole" episode
>>59011098
Would you categorically oppose Finland's joining NATO?
I doubt it.
So, whose benis is in your mouth?
>>59011068
''Let's give Tatarstan independance because he's a funny guy :DDD''
>>59010114
Not lately. I wish the goverment would stop jacking over NATO and EU at the expense of our relations to Russia.
>>58992203
Would they get along and former an economic union? Open borders? Agreed military alliance with joint command?
>>59011300
You see, a real independence is a thing you first have to afford.
Being too independent by choosing your friends yourself would get you labeled as a "bad guy".
hello turanic lads :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
praise turan and tengri desu lads:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>59011285
Redpill me pls on why this was built.
>>59011587
because russkies are homos and they like colourful thing :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>59011587
What this guy said :DDDD >>59011614
>>59011300
Probably because trade with russia makes up under 10% of all of our trade while trade with EU countries and the US makes up well over 60%.
>>59011587
its disneyland, built for children
What would happen to all the Russians living there?
That would be nice, but sadly it is rather unrealistic with Ingria. There need to be extremely devastating clusterfuck for this to happen.
Second largest city, main cultural center, large trading hub and so on.
I need to move my ass to Scandinavia, but who needs me? (white and nordic as it can be, but autistic neet without money)
>>59011768
You can come here and work with me
>>58992203
>So many languages on the brink of extinction
>>59011642
mehmet you're GREATEST ally :DDDDD
>>59011803
That would be nice too, but how? Immigration in USA, as I know, is extremely hard and slow.
>>58992203
I'm sorry but three Finno-Ugric languages are enough.
Need space for superior Indo-Europeans
I want all swiss to leave this thread
>>59011831
Thanks Mustafa :DDDD
>>59011907
Maybe if Trump fixes USA/Russian relationship it will be easier
>>59011614
>>59011642
Then, Ruskies fucked dorks.
>>59011098
When did the destruction of Russia turn into sucking Russias dick
Aika jutkut metkut natolaisella
>>59012071
Linkkaan sut viestiin jonka jokaisen putinjonnen tulisi lukea >>59011685
Muistutan samalla että pitää olla aika helvetin tyhmä jos kuvittelee että ryssät on täysin harmittomia. Toivottavasti liitytään jo huomenna natoon.
>>59012069
Kazan>>Swissland
Are you jeaolous? :DDDDD
>>59010539
Karelia went to russia, 300000 karelians came to finland
>>59011098
basically this desu
>karelia independent
what the fuck son
swissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>59012275
Germany lost the war
Sudeten went to Poland, 500'000 Germans came to Germany
Finland won the war
Karelia went to Russia, 300'000 Karelians came to Finland
>>59010836
Turks haven't changed a bit. Still angry, still manlet :D
>>59012282
>Putinjonne
>Toivottavasti liitytään jo huomenna natoon.
noniin, takas ylilaudalle
>>59012668
That's what happens when you're on the losing side.
Of course if finns hadn't managed to kill and maim 400,000 russian soldiers there would have been no finland for them to go to
>>59012204
I can't understand you natocucks. Your statistic doesn't amount to anything because trade with russia was practically banned by eu.
And why would joining nato help? We're better off as a buffer zone. We'll be the first ones to get fucked by russians if we join nato. Nato won't help us even if we were part of it. Right now finland has not much strategic interest for finland and it is more interested in us as a gateway to west in trade and politics.
>>59012695
I am 2.15 meters fug u :DDDDDD
>>59012282
>Karelia part of Russia or Finland
Basically what the fuck son
>>59012850
*russia has no interest
>>59012766
I don't understand Finnish, but this is... beautiful
WE
>>59013376
WUZ
>>59013492
MÄMMI
Anybody watched this movie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un-3xYAUg6I
>>59012850
Sucks to live near us, I am really sorry.
>>59013689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUreNSvBs4I
>>59012850
>Right now finland has not much strategic interest for finland
And Russki spotted, ja sitten saunan taakse vain.
>>59013595
I don't understand what's going on
The video is recorded from finnish national channel
But the video loader has written it all in cyrillic
And the video consists of the pair having a sauna and discussing how Vatanen catched a pig
>>59012850
You russiacucks always argue that finland should quit EU because it hurts trade with russia, but when someone posts cold hard facts that trade with russia was always insignificant compared to trade with EU countries you get defensive as fuck and start backpeddaling like the bitches you are.
Then you go on a tirade making up fantasy situation that ignore reality like a neet ignores work. In a conflict between nato and russia finland will become a part of the conflict whether we like it or not. 1400 kilometers of unguarded border and a short hop to sweden and baltics + control of the entire baltic sea are strategically more than enough for russians to take interest. Besides with ukraine they've made it clear that they are more than ready to invade and annex parts of their neighboring countries. Finland is not a special snowflake "gate to the west" which is immune to this no matter how much you wish.
As for nato article 5 clearly states what will happen when a member state gets invaded. There's nothing to argue about unless you're a putincuck.
>>59013880
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulitikkuja_lainaamassa_%28vuoden_1980_elokuva%29
>>59013961
I've seen the version from 1938
Is the newer any good?
>>59013883
>You russiacucks always argue that finland should quit
Being a drunken Russian thug, I argue that Finland, Sverige and others should fucking grow up.
>>59013808
https://youtu.be/gVZC_suHmQM?t=3s
>>59014041
The Finno-Soviet production. Funny as hell with charismatic actors on the Russian side. I love this movie.
Big red line was the border back then. Red dash lines are Soviet demands, blue dash lines are Finnish offers and the numbers are dates. In exchange for that land the Soviets even offered us much larger areas in Olonets and White Karelia. But moving the border as far north as the soviets wanted would have cutten our main defence line making it much easier for the soviets to invade us after the border change. So Finland couldn't accept that border change and the Soviets attacked.
>>59014041
Levan polka is dated back into 50's.
I fringin love it too.
>>59014183 this is a reply that post >>59013212
sorry I'm drunk
>>59014057
fuck off, vatnik
>>59014183
I'm sorry to a certain extend.
>>59014294
Checked
>>59013883
Seems like your "always" goes only so far as to back to the annexation of krim. Trade with russia was a significant portion of our outward trade but has now collapsed thanks to eu.
Are you really so naive as to think that nato would protect us because it is written in some book? Nato military power is nothing eithout usa and they would weasel out from defending us very fast. Come war finland is fucked. But getting natofucked will cost us royally more than getting fucked without them.
>>59014322
umad?
>>59014582
Staying out of NATO, Finland is on its own with the preveledge to negotiate its fate itself.
Being just another murrica's bitch in the NATO, Finland is an oppressable small chess figure. Low-tier in drunken Russian eyes.
>>59013883
I thought Russia was our biggest single trade partner after Germany. We haven't benefitted from the EU sanctions at all.
>>59015092
It's now the second time ever a foreign country has significant military hardware in Finland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxc0xZt6LQI
>Memorandum of undestanding (MOU) between the gorvernment of the Republic of Finland and Headquarters, Supreme Allied Commander Transformation as well as Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe regarding the provision of Host Nation Support for the execution of NATO operations / excercises / similar military activity.
Finland has been Honorary NATO tier for the last two years since this was signed.
>>59014582
I'm pretty sure that Nato would join if Russia attacked but I'm also sure that Russia wouldn't just attack Finland alone if we were a part of Nato. I think it would be best if we stayed out of the alliance and let them fight with Russia if it comes to it.
No one would object to it becoming a Nordic country, only delusional Russians who think that the native Russian population wouldn't flee during the war, But I think more people would be in favor of giving Karelia and the Kola peninsula to Finland. Finland, if we use Karelias natural boundries on the fennoscandinavia peninsula would look more aesthetically pleasing. Plus, it would be less work for the rest of the world if we gave that shit all to finland. Including lost territory during ww2. Ruskies would move out and Finns would move in. Karelians are more like Finns so maybe Finns will assimilate or the reverse.
>>59014582
We can discuss russian occupied parts of georgia or transnistria as examples of russians fucking their neighbors up if invading ukraine is such a sore spot for you poor putinshill. Either way being part of nato is the only realistic guarantee that russia won't fuck with finland, because they're scared shitless by it. Probably because article 5, which you should go read it since it's clear you don't actually know what it reads.
Also like I said, trade with russia was not significant when compared to all of our trade with the EU even before russians showcased how little they give a shit. It's also nothing that can't be replaced.
>>59015702
Russia hasn't been our biggest trading partner for a while now.
Also who the fuck has ever said finland would benefit from the sanctions. Do you retards even know why the sanctions got put into place in the first place? Protip: the same reason why finland should have joined nato back when the baltic states did.
>>59016332
Sanctions were put in place to punish Russia for taking Crimea. They haven't worked and it's none of our business anyway.
And where did you get the idea that we can only trade with EU or Russia? We had been trading with them both for years before the recent bullshit.
>Russia hasn't been our biggest trading partner for a while now.
Maybe try reading my post before calling me a retard. I said they were behind Germany
