>In a blatant slap at the European Union’s authority, Hungary’s Supreme Court on Tuesday paved the way for a referendum defying an E.U. order to resettle tens of thousands of migrants among member states
>In response to insubordination like Hungary’s proposed plebiscite, the E.U. may levy heavy penalties for governments that do not comply with directives for the resettlement of migrants.
>There have been reports that these fines could be as steep as 250,000 euros (about $288,000) per migrant, but E.U. officials would not confirm the exact amount to The Washington Post. Details are scheduled to be revealed in Brussels on Wednesday.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/eu-may-levy-heavy-fines-against-member-states-who-defy-directives-on-migrants/2016/05/03/95f2fcde-1139-11e6-a9b5-bf703a5a7191_story.html
Why can't US states be as progressive as European nations?
>Why can't US states be as progressive as European nations?
They are remember when Obongo forced all those border kids to refugee centers?
Good. If you get money from the EU, you need to follow it's policies, whether you like them or not. If it's that much of an issue, you're free to leave. Perhaps you can start a union with Britain.
EUSSR's not gonna last much longer my cucked burger friend. Nationalist Europe is coming.
>>58844055
You mean when people blocked the buses filled with kids until they were turned around?
we just gona sue the EU and wont pay until the next century
fuck migrants
Why is it okay for a group of totalitarian bureaucrats to tell sovereign nations what to do with something as basic as their migration policy?
>>58843618
Hungary's a shithole anyway, why would they want to go there?
>>58843618
thank god rapefugees don't want to come here
>>58844492
Because Hungary receives money from the EU? Nobody is forcing them to be in there.
>>58844543
nobody said we will have to accept gypsies the germancucks dont really want, its not in any contract or agreement
the rules say every single country has to agree to a decision, we dont agree and there are a few others
fuck off jew, stick your dollars up your asshole
>>58844492
That's federalisation. Just one step closer to being the USE
>the dogs of germany turn against their master
KICK THEM OUT OF THE EU
YOU EITHER SHARE THEN PAIN OR GTFO
>>58844671
Ok then, leave the EU if you don't like it.
Fuck the EU.
>>58844095
>Perhaps you can start a union with Britain.
like we need MORE socialism than now
>>58844939
how about no
we played by their rules, now they want to change the rules because it doesnt fit them, spineless fuckers
>you'll have to pay fines for denying refugees
>77,000,000 turks will be given visa-free travel
RIPIP Europe
>>58845029
Well guess what? Again, I don't see the issue here. When the rules change to fit their agenda, you can leave. So you wouldn't have joined originally if you knew the consequences? Alright, now you know the consequences, so you are free to leave.
>>58843618
While a quarter million €uro golds for each nigetity nog not accepted sounds lika a lot of money, I think it costs more than that to house and feed them till they die. And if you count in the fact that they keep shitting out nigglets and half-nigglets all the way to the grave, that's even more money wasted.
Still I think this is all bullshit. Most Europeans aren't responsible for this flood nor they want it, but fuck your soveregnity! Here comes progress:DD We really should GTFO ASAP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q94syUDDhxA
>>58845137
the worst thing is that as soon as they get citizenship they are free to go wherever they want in europe
>>58845190
not for us
>>58844505
EU force countries to keep refugees.
But everyone want go to germany/france/great britain
lmao why would anyone join the EU?
Switzerland and Norway seem like the only sane ones in that entire continent.
>>58846109
It seemed like a good idea a decade ago. It boosted trade but then it started to crack under its own megalomaniac power hungry faggotry
>>58845110
It's not fair.
We are forced to follow EU's rules to be allowed to trade with them, just because we live in Europe. While New Zealand, Israel, China, Japan, USA can trade without being punished by EU. We are so oppressed just for being on the same continent, why can't we trade like all the non-Europen countries do, without being forced to follow every single EU rule.
The EU is working hard to make enemies of its member states, at this rate the union will be forcibly dissolved within 30 years.
>>58847724
Yeah that's the weird thing, it's like they are doing everything they can to make people want to leave.
>>58843618
Sounds like a good way to break up the EU in this political climate.
>>58843618
T-thank you Merkel
>>58847724
They want to destroy the identities of the countries via mass immigration.
Why the fuck is our leave campaign not screaming about this and the Turkey visa deal?
>>58843618
>EU may fine countries for rejecting refugees
try it cunt and see what happens to your country when millions of spiders suddenly start raining down on you
>>58848420
>Turkey visa deal
You aren't in Schengen, so it doesn't affect you I think.
>>58847724
>Germany* is working hard to make enemies of its member states, at this rate the union will be forcibly dissolved within 30 years
Agree. Fuck Germany.
>>58848497
Still shows they're probably letting the roaches in later
>>58843618
Hopefully they kick Hungary out of the EU because it's a shitty country with shitty people.
>>58845110
>burgers in charge of knowing eu politics
Leaving is the worst possible case scenario for the EU, and the governments know that well. The whole penalties shit is just barking to see if people fall in line or not. The fact of blackmailing is plenty enough to piss people off though.
>>58848690
>kike siding with muslims
Is this bait?
>>58848548
most german ppl hate merkel now, she should be chancellor of africa, not of germany - she takes care that all of africa can come here while slashing welfare for germans. oh, and she licks erdogan's ass.
>>58848906
No, man. I simply side with whatever's bad for your country.
>>58843618
Will they give us 250,000 if we take one?
>>58849253
>most german ppl hate merkel now
When are the next elections?
>>58849285
Guess you gonna move here too then, we already have the largest jewish community in Europe, and so far they have been nothing but leeches.
>>58849350
Hell no, man. I wouldn't move to your disgusting country even if I got paid to do so.
>>58849404
At least take some of your rat brethren with you though, we don't need any more in Budapest.
>>58848690
you seem upset friend
did we kill some relative of yours?:^)
>>58843618
The fines can only happen to one, or a few, weak countries. If enough countries tell auntie Murkel to fuck off, she won't be able to do shit.
Daily reminder that there was no "migrant crisis" before the dumb kraut invited 800k illegals to come to Germany. Even though they were landing on Malta, in Greece and Italy for years prior to that. The "problem" became a problem when shit hit Germany.
>>58844492
its our duty to take in refugees
they're not saying open your borders so everyone in the world can freely travel it, are they?
>>58849448
I'm not doing anything to help you, faggot.
>>58849453
Actually no. I just think you're a bunch of scumbags who need to be put down.
>>58849313
2017 are the next elections and the anti-refugee AFD is projected to get about 15% of votes. merkel will have to go. i dont care who will be next chancellor, even a hobo would do a better job than opening our doors to millions of africans.
>>58849528
Well I guess that's a praise then, being hated by literally the scum of this planet.
>>58844095
you get money from eu but that money does not come for free.
>>58849571
But Hungarians are the scum of this planet.
>>58845190
yea in 8 years or whatever
>>58849606
Whatever you say mr happy merchant.
>>58849544
>2017
Welp, she still can do a lot of harm.
>>58845190
This makes me wonder. What will they do if those "migrants" keep wanting to migrate? Is it really OK to detain people who come here to keep them here against their will? Who are we to keep some olive-skinned fellows from visiting Berlin or whatever?
>>58849253
>most german ppl hate merkel now
Sure they do. Come elections and it'll be more of the same shit.
>>58849544
15% ain't making them winners, innit?
This shit means jack shit.
>>58844141
Based aussie
>>58849629
My word is the law, scum. It's good that you know your place beneath my boot.
>>58848391
whos "they"? Its a economic and political union, of sorts
>>58849682
Not sure if bait or just autism. But nice proxy there Ahmed.
>>58849650
>>Come elections and it'll be more of the same shit.
No. People are beginning to see that the raping hordes that are stealing and laughing at our police are different from poles, turks, yugos. Even leftists see that these "doctors and engineers" cannot read nor write and only want one thing: welfare money.
>>58849746
It's neither. Now watch out before I crash your economy and finally pull the plug on your cesspool of a country.
>>58849830
By shitposting on 4chan? Ok.
>>58849823
I doubt it, the retarded short sightedness of libtards knows no bounds.
>>58849865
You're the only one shitposting here because Hungarians are literally made of shit, man.
>>58849865
>m0she hackvr4/\/\ pulling a DDoS on Hungarian economy via 4chan api
plausible
>>58849948
Wait a minute, I know what's going on now, you're not even Ahmed, you're Alexandru aren't you. Seriously you guys can't help but shitpost on any opportunity.
>>58850013
Even the masterjew left this place though, we're ruled by the chinks now.
>>58850023
I don't even know what you're talking about but your continuous replies are a further proof that you'er owned by Jews. Feels good, man.
>>58849691
>whos "they"?
corporations and their puppet politicians
>union
At this point it's a german dictatorship and you even want to leave it because you can't do shit to change it policies.
>>58849823
Ain't so sure mate.
France was supposed to see change too and all that happened was leftie shitters banding up to not let new guys in. Simple as that.
>>58850088
Your old memes have no power in this realm.
>>58846109
You're still bound by the laws the EU makes up. If you're not a member, all that happens is you don't get a say in matters.
>>58850088
is that you papadopoulus behind an israeli proxy?
>>58850264
No it's Alexandru, our gravest enemy in shitposting.
>>58850218
You say it like small population countries have a say in EU matters lol. Finland's vote matters shit all in anything and our politicians love everything EU does even if it fucks Finns over.
>>58844437
>won't pay
as long as you get more than you give, the EU can still make you "pay" those fines by stopping your funds
>>58844543
>Nobody is forcing them to be in there.
I think you don't really realize how the EU works.
There is NO legal way to get out of it, if you don't have an opt-out option in your accession treaty.
>>58850346
So they'll invest less into french and german run companies in Hungary. Oh no, whatever should we do now. Btw which they won't do anyways because those company heads hold more decisive power than the whole of EU.
>>58850337
You're wrong, the Parliament's influence has quadrupled over the past two decades. If only more people would vote in the EU elections then it would be the most powerful instance.
But people are lazy and think they're "protesting" the EU by not voting. Some Danish guy had a great quote about this, "I'm pretty sure Riksdagen exists whether you vote or not"
>>58850264
>>58850316
>"pls take teh J00z from my shithole cuntry waaaah"
>"omg y aren't u upset when I call J00z names?!"
>accuse me of being some faggot instead
Hungarians are my bitches.
>>58850436
They will invest same in those companies while investing less in other stuff like infrastructure or domestic agriculture which probably costs the most money.
>>58850480
Nah I just realised that jews are way too smart for this kind of shit so you have to be someone way dumber.
>>58850464
Finland has 12 MEP's. Oh my, we make a difference OF SHIT ALL! Let's not forget that they vote according to Germany anyway! And that Commission can fuck up any vote in the parliament if they so please! Abd that commiasion is full of globalist corporate dicksucking cronies who are in the pockets of lobbyists!
>>58850498
What are you even talking about. Our infrastructure are the french and german companies and our domestic agriculture is being bought out by chinese companies.
>>58850518
It's funny how for the last few posts you've been doing nothing but accusing me of using a proxy. Hungarians really are dumb pieces of shit.
>>58850587
>oh shit the jig is up better call him stupid again!
This is just embarassing.
>>58850551
but it's still you using it and benefiting from it, no matter who owns the roads or railway, it's you who will suffer when it's shit
building a new highway or railway costs some serious ammounts of money and EU funds are nowadays crucial in this way
>>58850531
Finland's power in parliament is directly proportionate to voter turnout, and you barely get 40% of your population to give a shit. And that's HIGH compared to most nations.
http://www.idea.int/vt/countryview.cfm?id=74
If more people want to influence the EU then they have to participate. That's it, there's literally nothing stopping representatives from basically running the show.
>>58850627
What's embarrassing is that Hungary and its "people" are allowed to exist, my man.
>>58850629
We managed to survive here for 1500 years, I doubt having slightly less comfortable seats on the train will affect me. Also it's still french and german companies that benefit from eu investments, so those companies will just tell the eu to shut the fuck up and then they will. The power is where the money is, all the political fluff around it is worthless.
>>58850637
>Finland's power in parliament is directly proportionate to voter turnout
haha no, it's proportionate to total population, that's why it fucks over anyone who is not Britain, France and Germany.
>>58850316
mircea is a funny guy who is only nasty on the surface, his baits are very obvious
the greek one is full of hate towards everyone, like this "guy"
>>58850703
Well it's very clearly bait, and a very low level at that. I just wasn't sure who was behind it.
>>58850637
>Finland's power in parliament is directly proportionate to voter turnout
Okay...
>And that's HIGH compared to most nations.
Then why doesn't Finland run EU parliament?
>>58850629
the cashflow stop after 2020 anyway so who cares
>>58850745
i want to steal his angry pepe, can we summon him?
>>58850767
All voter turnout, not just yours. Currently parliament does have the power to stop suggestions they don't like, so the only explanation is that the representatives YOU elected chose to let it pass.
>>58850698
No.
>>58850833
That rare pepe might cost your soul. Are you sure about it?
>>58850637
>If more people want to influence the EU then they have to participate.
And still, we have only 12 MEPs out of 751. Only a retarded liberal Swede would think that we have any say in the EU. Enjoy your immigrants fag, you will get 100 000 new asylum seekers this year.
>>58850937
Misguided hate is no way to go through life my friend. Learn more about what you're talking about or I will gladly humiliate you some more next time.
>>58850851
Can you even math, Håkan? 12/751 is and will always be ~1,6%.
>>58850851
>13 MEPs vs Germany's 99
>LOL YOU GUYS TOTALLY RUN THE SHOW BUT YOU LET IT SLIDE
are you high or something? EU's parliament seat allocation is proportionate to population you autist.
>it is stated in the treaties that distribution of seats should be "degressively proportional" to the population of the member states.
t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apportionment_in_the_European_Parliament
>Degressive proportionality is an approach to the allocation (between regions, states or other subdivisions) of seats in a legislature or other decision-making body. Degressive proportionality means that while the subdivisions do not each elect an equal number of members, smaller subdivisions are allocated more seats than would be allocated strictly in proportion to their population.
t. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degressive_proportionality
What is this means is that while EU's parliament "wants" to have fair system, it still fucks over anyone who isn't the biggest 5(Spain, France, Germany, Britain, Italy).
2 seats per country would be ideal, but because EU wants to be centralized as fuck around France and Germany that can't be allowed.
>>58851026
>>58851053
That's not how it works, you're implying the 98,4% are pitted against you which isn't the case.
>>58850918
we have 7 seven souls if it only costs one im still good
>>58851010
>Learn more about what you're talking about or I will gladly humiliate you some more next time.
Or then you could just simply point out where I made a mistake, all those numbers are true, you're just trying to switch the subject with your liberal jargon, a typical tactic you have dealing with reality.
>implying we have some rules from EU
literally only thing was that our "butter" cannot be called butter
and for that, we get 3bn Euros yeach year
>>58851073
Germany holds almost 1/7 of the decision making power in parliament alone, please explain what 13 MEPs (who will vote according to their lizardmen overlords' wishes anyway) can make a difference.
protip: they don't
>>58851135
>I don't know what I'm talking about: the post
Majority of laws that are passed in parliament today is according to the EU regulations and if we don't implement them then we will most likely get penalties. And it's not only laws, EU also says e.g. what natural areas are to be protected and so on.
>>58851073
> you're implying the 98,4% are pitted against you which isn't the case.
Yes it is, every country is only interested in their own benefit which is usually not the same with Finland, they're trying to fill Finland with savage immigrants and remove our advantage in agricultural aid for example.
>>58851235
This. If Parliament votes for reducing Finland's agricultural aid there's shit all what our MEPs can do and Mr. Swede's voter turnout will have no impact on it.
Merkel needs to be tried for crimes against humanity.
>>58851235
>>58851331
Guys cmon why are you being so submissive. The EU literally holds no actual power, if they want to force immigrants into your country just tell them to go fuck themselves and they can't do shit about it.
>>58851659
This bullshit better mean we be banding up against it. Finland is welcome too.
>>58851659
Our MEP's are cucked and corrupted, they're also those international Jews.
>>58851659
Finns are submissive by nature, that's why our politicians follow their eu overlords, and why the people are not opposing our politicians.
>>58850698
Don't act like we get any say in the EU. It's the Germans who control it without opposition, it's one of the reasons we want to leave.
>>58851659
They can do nothing except fine Finland for gorillion euro per nignog
>>58851906
I'm pretty sure Orbán won't back down from his stance the question is how many other countries will join. Slovaks and Poles are a given, Czech are likely, Romania, Croatia and Slovenia are unsure and the rest is up for the dice.
>>58851926
>>58851982
If you give in to shit like that you'll turn into sweden 2.0
>>58852004
You have more say in shit than most.
>>58852066
>fine
Who cares, it's not like they can march in with an army and take it if you tell them "no fuck off".
>>58851982
There's nothing submissive about following through with previously agreed upon promises.
>>58852175
I don't think we ever agreed on letting muslims overrun our countries.
>>58852107
And we still have nothing to show for it, sums up the EU perfectly.
If you aren't Germany, you don't have a say.
>>58852175
That would be a good mentality if our politicians also thought like that.
>>58852216
Even the germans can't allow states to leave though. If britain leaves the EU then it'll literally collapse and there'll be no reason not to leave for others.
It's one thing that people don't understand when comes to the EU and it's integrity. It's why they can't kick out greece no matter what, if a single country leaves then that means the alliance is responsible and trustworthy anymore. Making the euro plummet into the gutter and just blow up the banks. People talk about leaving and kicking but realistically germans can't allow no matter what or their whole economy will get crushed.
Reminder that for this to become valid, countries need to agree by means of qualified majority vote (90 votes are needed to block it) AND it needs to pass European Parliament.
Here's the amount of QMV votes per cunt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_in_the_Council_of_the_European_Union#Qualified_majority_voting
Not all is lost, yet.
>>58852406
*not responsible and trustworthy
>>58852406
>realistically germans can't allow no matter what or their whole economy will get crushed.
Would serve them right for setting up this globalistic and bureaucratic nightmare.
>>58852406
Crashing this "union"...
>>58852448
I dunno but it just means that they can't do things like this unless they want to start their economy from zero again.
>>58852436
I'm a faggot, scroll to the fancy table and look at Nice votes.
How likely is it that all of the un-cucked Eastern European countries will form a voting bloc and tell Merkel to go and fuck herself?
The rapefugees must surely be the last straw for you.
How can this union survive? Everyone's just tired of this shit.
>>58852175
Yes there is when the 'promises' are ruining our country.
>>58852658
The western libshit media has been crying about Visegrád recruiting countries like Slovenia, Croatia, Romania and Austria into their evil stronghold of defying the lord and savior merkel for a while now. But you never know if they're crying wolf or not.
>>58852658
Poland is already firmly against - our interior minister already had some rather strong words about this lunacy. He also indicated there already are some talks about forming a block against it but didn't want to elaborate.
Sauce:
http://wpolityce.pl/m/polityka/291641-szef-mswia-stanowczo-o-relokacji-imigrantow-pomysly-ke-godza-w-suwerennosc-polski-nie-przyjmiemy-takich-rozwiazan
>muh sovereignty
>breach of treaties
>infringing on country's competences
>relocation only attracts more
>>58852726
Then the problem was making the promises and rules in the first place, not doing what was agreed.
>>58852892
Tusks losing the elections really fucked libshits over this, innit.
>>58852924
I don't remember them saying that we'll have to accept thousands of muslims if we join the eu.
>>58843618
Does this mean that we'll get paid for the excess of "people" we've taken in?
>subhumans making massive reply chains full of autism
>>58853684
yeah with rapes and car fires
EU is right in this case 2bh.
why rich europans cant accept poor refugees from warzone?
some rejecting counries should be done economic sanctions.
>>58855789
You're missing the point entirely. The countries that don't want to accept refugees already the poorest ones in the EU and the rich countries want to sanction them for not going along with their insanity.
