Why aren't you learning Japanese yet /v/? Surely you want to play all those games in their original language right? Not to mention all those new games you just couldn't play before.
VIDEO GAMES
>>58499998
I'm planning to start after I become intermediate in Spanish, which will take like 2-3 years if I practice everyday.
When I start Japanese it will probably take me years to get good at it but it will be my lifelong commitment ;_;
>>58499998
>majority of these characters are actually Chinese
Why can't japs into originality?
>>58499999
Why even bother with Spanish? It gets you no games, it has no enjoyable content and I sure as hell hope you don't plan on going to some South America shithole.
Way ahead of you OP
I already tried and then gave up
>>58500000
>majority of English letters are the same as French and Spanish and German
Why can't Brits into originality?
>>58500000
>majority
Pretty sure they are all Chinese. Kanji literally means Chinese character.
>>58500001
Will help when 70% once murrica is spaniard
there are no games worth playing that aren't in english or fan-translated english
no, porn games aren't games
>>58499999
Buena suerte ese
>>58500000
Many of them are actually slightly different, just to fuck you over if you try to learn both.
>>58500006
What about all th- CENSORED
What's the difference between this strength and the third collomn strenght kanji? I'm trying to learn japanese but kanji is just way too fucking hard yo
Anyone here using WaniKani? How effective is it?
>>58500010
What you posted is a katakana 'ka'
>>58500012
STOP POSTING THAT FUCKING WHORE PLEASE
>>58500003
>why can't ___ into ___
If you're going to complain about originality, don't do it with memespeak.
>>58500013
redundancy is a good thing.
>>58499998
That way of learning kanji is useless. You cant read shit.
At least I can read comic LO right now. All those hours in anki are paying themselves. Next goal is video games.
>>58500013can't learn
>>58500013
Physical strength vs "spiritual/mental" strength
Or concrete vs abstract
Kanji sucks dont bother with this shit language
>>58500013
you just can't, you simply cannot
I still haven't seen anyone post games that are worth playing. Just admit it, you wanna learn japanese so you can fap to hentai games
I'm halfway through Pimsleur Japanese 2 and currently level 9 on Wanikani. I feel like I'm starting to make some real progress. At least I'm recognizing occasional words and phrases in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
>>58499998
I'm having trouble memorizing the kanji that have more than one like strength, morning, picture, etc. How do you get the hang of it?
>>58500010
>what's the difference
They're used in different words. What's the difference between 硬い, 固い and 堅い?
>>58500005
that's why you should vote trump.
only the mexicans that enter legally would have to follow english classes.
啊哈哈 佐祐理不清楚
>>58499999
Spanish is easy as fuck anon
It has a similar grammar structure to English so it makes translating fuck tons simpler.
Just grab a Spanish to English dictionary and learn basic words. Pencil, bathroom, car, etc.and because grammar and syntax is identical, you can spew out coherent sentences no problem
I am nearly at 3000 cards on anki, however my grammar practice has fallen heavily behind schedule. I've become one of those anki retards who don't do anything but their reps.
>>58500027
>and because grammar and syntax is identical
Jajaja
>>58500013
強い "You're strong"
力 "power" seen in words like manpower etc
>>58499998
>Okay we have one line for one, two for two, three for three...
>What should we do for four?
>I don't know, draw a fucking box and scribble in it
>>58500020
>there are people on /v/ right now who haven't gotten their level to JLPT N1 for the sole purpose of being able to play more eroge
Anyone else uses wanikani?
>>58500028
>Kanji Grid
Shit that's neat
>>58500028
I just read them as chinese
>>58500011
Better than Heisig
>>58500034
When I become demotivated and wonder why I'm doing this, I remember the grid and how nice it will look when I have the full thing covered and then how nice it will look when it's all green.
>>58500032
>not learning it to read all those untranslated doujins
>>58500011
I use it. Basically a glorified Anki, but I like it a lot. It lacks consistency with the mnemonic sometimes and I hate how they deal with verbs like 止まる / 止める,but I paid for lifetime so I might as well use it. It keeps me motivated for some reason so that's good.
>>58500032
I just want to be able to read all the circle hitori on sadpanda that hasn't been translated. It's a travesty that only 3 of them have been translated out of 18.
>>58500011
haven't tried it but i don't trust memes
>>58500010
the problem is, english has too few words, too many words have too fucking many meanings
and then you have shit like "one, up, off"
give up - i'm supposed to give what on the upper side?
kick off - someone shutdown a kick? how that's even possible
face off - wtf? there are tearing each ones face?
those shit drive crazy anyone new to english
>>58500020
I wanna learn Japanese to play this game.before you say there's an english patch, that translation is horrific with mispellings and grammar errors everywhere, and they aren't consistent with using english names or japanese names
>>58500011
If works if you remember to use it. I just cleared a backlog of about 500 items that I'd been putting off for months.
I'm trying. Shit's hard yo.
>>58499998
>O zero
>learning kanji
These threads are unreal
According to them all of /v/ should know jap by now but its impossible to find anyone that actually does
Do you fags just stop caring after a certain time?
>>58500042
off can mean both start and stop, yea its retarded
>>58499998
>Wanting to learn Kanji
But I'm already close to killing myself.
>>58500047
Most people here don't even have the willpower to play video games, do you think they'd bother with learning a language?
>>58500014
I was repeating the other anon's complaint to show how silly it was
>>58500018
>kanji sucks
Lets see you read through some intermediate shit that's kana only. Holy shit kanji is magnificent.
>>58500047
Proficient speaker here, I gave up all of my NEET time and what little sanity I had left to learn this fucking language. Most people can't or won't do that. It's that simple.
>>58500032
>JLPT meaning anything
Doesn't test output.
>>58499998
>all those loli VNs that are NEVER EVER
i knew i should have started learning long ago
>>58500050
But look how many people are learning this shit.
Do they just give up after realizing its a waste of time?
There should be so many jap translators everywhere
>>58500053
Was it worth it be honest.
>>58500027
yeah and all of those conjugations, expressions, words that come from latin and have no similar equivalent in the English language and different pronunciation don't count at all.
It might be no japanese, but speaking and reading spanish well, especially if you don't have a latin language as your mother language is a pain in the ass.
And even if you do, as I've learned with studies of the French language, you'll find expressions and words that you'll stop and ask "what the fuck does this mean?" Like those silly french reviews that sometimes get posted here with their "aller aux fraises" (go to strawberries, if you use google translator).
>>58500001
Because Spanish is the best way IMO for me to learn how to learn a language because it's so similar to English. Learning your second language is hardest.
And when I learn spanish I will have access to a bunch of new music and media I can listen to. Also it will look good in my resume.
>>58500027
The grammar is similar but still has a lot of differences like subjunctive conjugations.
>>58500047
There's a lot of people on /v/ who are learning it, you can see it in threads like this. However nobody will ever learn japanese to the point that they say they "know it" because if they do then people will call them out on it and show that there's shit they don't know.
>>58500042
Kick off is kicking the ball off your side of the field.
>>58499998
>mfw these are pretty much like the Chinese characters I read in Chinese class
Daily reminder that Japanese characters were adopted from China.
>>58500053
How many years took you exactly?
And do you now translate to afford your anime plastic crap?
>>58500056
Personally, I give up every few months after making very little progress.
>>58500061
>kanji
>漢字
>literally means Chinese character
I took the bait.
>>58500054
This.
Most people who achieve N1 only learn to read and not write or speak.
>>58500061
Yeah no shit. Pretty much everything in Japan was stolen from other cultures. They were super imperialist shitlords just like whitey.
>>58500054
Output is irrelevant if I only want to consume media that is left untranslated.
>>58500061
>Daily reminder that Japanese characters were adopted from China.
Its almost like Chinese people got in boats and colonized Japan in ancient times.
>>58500010
Strength v.s. power.
>>58500037
Where is that grid from? Is it an Anki feature?
>>58499998
If you're not learning Japanese to read hentai, you're doing it wrong.
>>58500066
They're slant eyed brits basically
>>58500070
It's Kanji grid, google it.
I'm learning kanji to read Rondo Duo becuase you faggots don't want to translate it, I need to know why did those girls grow dicks
>>58500052
The good thing about kanji is that they compress information extremely well, so you can read ridiculously fast. They're significantly harder to read, though, and they're necessary only due to how shitty the base language is. Compare with korean which doesn't need kanjis at all to make perfect sense (and uses them only for names and special stuff like branding).
>>58500000
>>58500004
Literally this. Chinese characters were adapted for the Japanese language. Many Asian languages at one point in time or another have used Chinese characters.
>>58500074
>he thinks he's entitled to getting a translation
>>58500042
Nah, english is piss easy. In fact one of the easiest languages. In those cases all you gotta do is learn the whole word, eventually you'll figure out the pattern. You don't learn languages by looking at the details, you STUDY a language by doing it, and that's not what you need to either speak or write well.
t. somebody who speaks 5 languages
![Namasensei's Japanese Lessons - Lesson 4 Hiragana and review.mp4_snapshot_00.10_[2016.04.27_06.45.37].png](https://i.imgur.com/qjx4NRW.png "Namasensei's Japanese Lessons - Lesson 4 Hiragana and review.mp4 snapshot 00.10 [2016.04.27 06.45.37]")
Drinking helps learning Japanese?
>>58500074
It was magic.
There I saved you the trouble.
>>58500054
>>58500065
You don't need fluent output in order to be able to play vidya (unless multiplayer with nips) or consume any other media that matter, which I assume is the main reason anyone on 4chan is learning the language in the first place.
>>58500075
You don't need kanji at all in Japanese. The entire language works perfectly well with just Hiragana.
>>58500079
It helps numb the pain of learning Japanese
>tfw 2 months without doing Anki reps
Just kill me
>>58500079
Yes. It calms the nerves and helps you power through the boring shit
>>58500078
You dont speak shit.
>>58500078
English is not one of the easiest languages you dumbass. It has more vowels then most language and consonant clusters which don't exist in many languages. Plus the orthography is fucked. Stop talking.
>>58500078
>Nah, english is piss easy. In fact one of the easiest languages
>people who've been studying for a month and figured out how to use a text hooker acting superior
You know who you are. Quit acting like faggots.
>>58500082
Some words are homonyms in hiragana, so it might be difficult to establish the intended meaning if the context is ambiguous, with kanji this isn't a problem.
>>58500078
>In fact one of the easiest languages
You kidding nigger? It's a fact that English is one of the hardest languages on Earth.
言い方 is read "iikata"
方言 is read "hougen"
This is the kind of stuff that drives me to drink
So I was right. You all want loli pussy, that's why you cram for hours in front of ancient Taj mahal runes. Incredible. You guys could be president if the president was given a loli at coronation
>>58500084
Just drop it and be free.
Its not worth it.
>>58500082
Except you won't be able to read anything written by a native Japanese person. Kanji is essential.
>>58500092
Your inability to accept that kanji has different readings depending on the vocabulary they are found in?
>>58500078
English is NOT easy. I imagine shit like read and read, there, their and they're making foreigners want to end themselves.
>>58500088
>pronouncing shit for the first time is hard
A bunch of languages are like that, English is easy as fuck, was this made by retarded Americans?
>>58499998
it took me 3 years to be 99% fluent and able to speak spanish in classes
it took me 1 year to be fluent enough in japanese to read raws and only having to look up random kanji
>>58500090
And? This same problem exists in english. And /v/ frequently fucks it up.
See: There, their, they're.
>>58500082
It works alright, but certainly not perfectly well. The way the information is conveyed in the spoken language is via chinese-style accents, localized to the dialect, when one of the over 9000 homonyms are encountered. For written text, it's often quite hard, even with context, to tell what is meant (many words could fit) without kanji, though it's possible especially with an increased context window.
>>58500078
English is one of the hardest languages you can learn. The only positive thing it has going for it is a relatively simple alphabet.
English has some of the hardest and most arbitrary grammar rules of any language. Most native, fluent English speakers have awful fucking grammar.
>>58500060
i know what means, i just saying that look at on, off and up on a dictionary, is just ridiculous how many meanings they have, and how "lax" they are used on so many terms
on most languages, words have less different meanings thus have a more strong meaning, so when people start to learn english they usually think on the most literal meaning of such words
like
up - upper side
on - turn on
off - turn off
so if you say
i will give you a heads up
someone new to english will probably think that you will rise your head to him, and think WTF he meant by that
>>58500078
i know and agree, but doesn't change the fact that learning a new language is hard and sometimes awkward
>>58500023
硬い: tough or stiff
固い: unmovable
堅い: an appearance of reliability, firmness, or certainty
honestly, there really isn't much of a difference, and at the end of the day, they really all mean the same thing and can be used interchangeably. the meaning of かたい relies on the kanji's meaning for かた. however, seeing as the kanji all have similar meanings, when made into an adjective, they all translate into pretty much the same thing.
>>58500098
English has no pronunciation rules whatsoever. In most other languages once you know the rules you know how words are read with some exceptions. Not so in english.
>>58500098
>completely missing the point of the image
>>58500092
言い方 feels like two words so it makes sense to use the kunyomi
>woman and heart is part of angry
>>58500108
3 women = rape
>>58499998
>Beauty Boy Strength Love
>Laugh Girl Angry
What are you trying to say Japan?
>>58499998
The massive time investment spent learning Japanese is time I could be spending playing video games
Also, I'm not sure there's one game worth that effort. I don't even like JRPGs for the most part, let alone visual novels.
>>58500056
>Was it worth it be honest.
It will be worth it when I can be an interpreter and get paid ¥14k/hr. But that won't be happening for a while. I still like the Japanese language but there's so much shit to learn.
>>58500062
It took me three years to pass JLPT1 starting from scratch. That was 9 years ago. I'm not using Japanese professionally at the moment but I'll be changing that soon. I don't speak English natively either, so that's another issue. My first language is sitting on its own family language branch too.
>>58500100
But it doesn't and they most certainly don't. First, there are something like 0.01 homonyms per word in English as opposed to 5 per word in japanese. Second, the homonyms in English have almost 0% occurrence likelihood in foreign contexts, while the occurrence likelihood is very high for japanese. Third, reddiT is not /v/. >>>/reddit/
>>58500098
The phonology of English makes it difficult to accurately pronounce for many non-native speakers even after years of study.
It's not easy and you're retarded for thinking so. Also you're most likely a native speaker, otherwise wouldn't be saying this shit.
>>58500088
>>58500087
>muh pronounce
>muh double meanings
Yes your pronounce is all kinds of fucked, I'll give you that, but guess what, every fucking language has it's quirks. English doesn't stands out from anybody else aside from that. Try looking at any other language and you'll see what I mean.
>>58500109
Yeah, that one is fun
TIL: Reading is video games
sharing this thread on reddit, thanks for the info!
>>58500088
The anomalies in English are contextual and easy to remember. 'Ghoti' could not be pronounced as fish.
>>58500082
>You don't need kanji at all in Japanese. The entire language works perfectly well with just Hiragana.
Too late for that. Kanji are essential due to syllable language also having caused a shitton of homophones among the course of history. I'm not saying there's no homophones at all in other languages, but Japanese has way too many.
Japanese themselves actually pondered about getting rid of kanji (and use either just kana or romaji) but found it impossible.
>>58500112
>an interpreter
Dont you need real education for that? A degree at the very least
>>58500113
>5 per word in japanese
Not that I don't believe you, but make me a list of any homonyms you can think of in Japanese.
>>58500108
My favorite is "black". It's literally "village" + "fire" radicals.
>>58500119
This. Aside from the 'o' in women, they're not actually exceptions, they're just rules that are more complex than 1:1 spelling:pronunciation.(though there are other exceptions like the shire in many english town names).
>>58500088
Maybe if you're a retarded American you might pronounce Woman as wiman.
>>58500097
Actually those words are only a problem for english speakers themselves. I guess you take it for granted, foreigners get that shit really easily.
The only thing I don't get is if people writing "feets" is a meme or downright stupidity.
>>58499999
>tfw I fell for the learn spanish meme
Even portuguese would have been a better choice
>>58500119
The inconsistencies are huge in number and only easy to remember after a lot amount of studying. It's pretty subjective to say they're easy to remember. Nearly every ELL would disagree with you.
>>58500102
As a native English speaker I can confirm this. I still have problems with shit like "those/these".
>>58500123
>It's literally "village" + "fire" radicals.
I know it's completely personal preference, but I find much more efficient to learn the actual words instead of learning radicals that compose the kanji.
>>58500121
I'm planning to go study in Japan in about 3 years. I'll going through all of K-12 on my own now. In Japanese.
>>58500098
>>58500125
The inferiority complex is real. Why else would you feel the need reply twice?
I found English and German piss easy to learn. They almost came naturally to me, english without studying it at all and German with just one year of studying. I'm confident I could learn Japanse in under a year if I didn't bother with the writing, and I can already speak French, Catalan and Spanish as well.
What I find incredibly cryptic is Chinese, it literally sounds the same like 5 variations of ching and chong strung toghether as fast as you can.
Ching hua shie lie shi sho or some bullshit like that.
>>58500127
No it wouldnt are you retarded
>>58500119
>The anomalies in English are contextual and easy to remember
Sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfRSvTSY0d4
>>58500130
It took me a week to learn radicals, and it helps. Not exactly a major time sink.
>>58500129
Yeah. Shit like using can instead of may, not knowing when to use whom, etc. There's plenty of English grammar I fuck up daily and I consider myself fairly well spoken compared to my friends and family.
>>58500115
>姦 means "cunning" or "wicked"
Accurate
>>58500127
Portuguesefag here,stop falling for the spic meme anon
>>58500131
Must be nice to be rich, well you did say you were a neet.
Good luck anon
>>58500127
>>58500134
No reason to learn Spanish, even less Portuguese. What the fuck are you guys doing? Why on earth would you learn Spanish or Portuguese?
>>58500133
Chinese syntax is straight forward, but the tonal system is what's hard to get a grasp of.
>>58500092
except on that case there is a clear rule
next time use something like 大 as example
大好き - daisuki
大変 - taihen
大人 - otona
actually just use any shit tagged here
http://www.kanjidamage.com/tags/8
>>58500141
Why learn any language ever?
>>58500141
>no reason
Except that it looks fucking awesome on a resume. How can you be this retarded.
>>58500141
Gee maybe because of all the Latin speakers in MURICA
>>58500127
Spanish is ugly as fuck though, I can't take anyone speaking it seriously, looks like they're a cartoon character. At least portuguese's pretty nice to speak, and poems written on it are really beautiful
>>58500132
>being this wrong
>piccolofuckingvegetaintheass.gif
>>58500133
Catalan catalan a ver cuando te vas
>>58500144
because you can do something with the knowledge that is objectively interesting
so learn c++ syntax instead
>>58500134
I fucking hate how broken portuguese sounds.
>>58500143
>大人 is also pronounced たいじん and だいにん
Kill me
>>58500147
What about my comment confused you.
>>58500144
Plenty of reasons to learn plenty of languages, but filthy South American languages are just useless.
>inb4 spanish and portuguese are spoken out of south america and weren't even born there
Yeah, by people and cultures that don't matter. Fuck Portugual. Or are you planning to go live in Angola?
>>58500150
If Spaniards hate us so much, why don't they want us to leave?
Tsundere fags.
>all these people arguing that their native language is easy OR hard
Protip: As a native speaker you are in no position to judge the difficulty of learning your language since you literally had no choice in learning it, and you picked it up mostly via baby-magic osmosis.
>>58499998
I learned some Japanese during high school but I haven't used the knowledge of it in ages because I didn't need to. Now my knowledge is limited to knowing the hiragana, katakana, and around thirty kanji. I can sometimes pick out words I hear in anime and tell what they're saying, but I'm nowhere near as proficient as I was. Until it becomes absolutely impossible to live without learning Japanese, I probably won't buckle down on it again because I'll just forget it all over.
>>58500133
>If I didn't bother with the writing
Yeah no shit, Einstein. Spoken japanese is easy as fuck as long as you're given context. Writing is the true barrier for foreigners.
>>58500122
Just a simple example:
点 天 店 展 テン 貂 典 恬 転
>>58500139
Portuguesefag here as wellL i s b o a
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>>58500108
>3x woman is noise
>>58500156
But I do, its going to be hilarious.
>>58499998
ARIGATO SAYONARA GO FAKYU YORUSERUFU
>>58500153
Japanese has a relatively complex counter system. Depending on the context you would be able to understand what was being spoken/written about.
>>58500129
>I still have problems with shit like "those/these".
how
>>58500145
Spanish looks awesome on a resume? Is this a joke? German would look awesome on a resume. Chinese would. Spanish? Not really. At least it shows you know a language I suppose. You can now go live with the monkeys and eat bananas in South America.
>>58500154
How does it look "fucking awesome" on a resume.
If I had to choose a second language to have if i was american I'd choose French or German. Languages of the 1st world.
This is coming from a Spaniard.
What languages besides Russian do you guys recommend if I want to learn another language for literature?
>>58500152
english is more semantically retarded than anything else desu, it's the main reason for American Greatness
>>58500139
Adivinha.Galinha.
>>58500160
That doesn't tell me anything. What word(s) is that and how are they homonyms.
>>58500145
I'd rather have Mandarin on my resume, then go work with some waifus.
>>58500146
>other people come to MY country so I'll bother to learn their language instead of having them learn mine
Don't bother, go learn something good instead.
>>58500157
As a TESOL major, I can tell you that it's hard as fuck for a non-native speaker to learn English. Fuck off with the protip meme.
>>58500163
Yeah, bitch.
Carles Puigdemont is gonna Make Catalunya Great Again.
>>58500148
at least you could flee to brazil once the niggers or spics go on full white genocide mode in the u.s.
but kidnapping is also a huge issue there for gringos though. just gotta watch yourself
>>58500109
>死姦
>death rape
>necrophilia
>>58500162
Chinese are really sexist, it's great.
English can only hope to be as sexist in their language.
>>58499998
I'd like to learn kanji but I don't care enough to actually do it, I already speak the language fairly fluently which is going to come in handy since I'll be in Japan for a couple weeks next year.
>>58500165
Yes but having to remember how to pronounce everything is a pain. Like 人 in jukugo, sometimes にん sometimes じん.
it is amazing how fast you forget languages if you don't practice them.
i didn't practice for a week and felt like i was fucking retarded but when after i've practiced i feel fluent
cyкa
>>58500167
Being fluent in Spanish makes you hella marketable in the Southern/ South Western states.
>>58500167
>>58500168
>2 seconds apart
Based.
>>58500176
I dont care one way or another I just think you are a bunch of jews that deserve what is coming to you
>>58500179
嫁 = 女 + 家
:^)
>>58500125
>he can't even read
guess english really isn't that easy then
>>58500182
sorta rike me wit engrish.
>>58499998
what's the point of having the symbol and english translation if there's no romaji to know how to pronounce it
>>58500190
Ask Heisig
>>58500174
While I do agree that it's fucking bullshit that we have to accommodate their handicap like they're a retard, learning beanspeak is a huge advantage in the workplace.
>>58500161
H U E
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>>58500181
True.
>>58500168
Spanish speakers exist in first world countries, regardless of your language preferences.
>>58500186
Hell yeah we're jews.
I've actually had me and my family be accused of being jewish, when we're as christian as they come.
Don't worry though, once we're our own state Madrid will stop sending all the subsaharian subhumans to Barcelona and then they'll be your problem.
I'm really sick of seeing subhuman niggers and other variations of shitskin in my city. Makes me feel disgusted. They're so revolting. God I can't wait for the genocide.
>>58500182
And that's part of the reason some people, including myself, haven't bothered. Even after you learn it, you have to keep reinforcing it and/or using it near daily to maintain fluency of the language or you will lose you grip on it.
>>58499998
Why is that person on fire?
What reason is there to learn kanji If I don't like most JRPG shit (the majority of the untranslated games you need to be able to read)?
Should I start learning French or German as my3rdlanguage?
>>58500155
>Fuck Portugual
Vai mas é à merda, analfabeto do caralho.
>>58500194
If spics come to your country YOU MAKE THEM FUCKING LEARN YOUR LANGUAGE.
Fuck, do you think I feel compelled to learn arabic or whatever click click subhuman shit those niggers from Africa speak when they come here? No, they either learn our language or they fuck off.
>>58500198
there isn't any
this thread isn't for you
>>58500199
German. French is for literal pansies.
Also German will be a dead language within your lifetime.
>>58500182
Some people are just built that way. I can pick up a guitar years and my fingers just know what to do, but I can't remember more than a few kanji. Wish I could trade those traits.
>>58500177
Kidnapping? No, they'll just rob you. I spent my new year at Ipanema this year. It was funny seeing some Crepe seller trying to rip off these couple of german dudes. They didn't spoke the language, and the guy was selling them crepes for about 8 reais each when anyone that knew portuguese could read the sign that said "Cinco por um sete por dois". I keked heartly.
>>58500195
You cant be this deluded
Muslims go there because its where all the other muslims already are and where the most jobs are
Thats not going to change, period.
And its not a religion thing even Dante called you guys disgusting jews 600 years ago.
I actually have family and property in BCN but fuck taking political sides I just want to see shit happen.
>>58500199
All you need is english and japanese. Maybe russian too if you're into PC gayming.
Anything else is just fedoracore tier autism
>>58500202
OK then, goodbey.
>>58500198
>>58500198
You could go for the minority that dont get translated but you would like.
But deciding if it is worth it is totally up to you.
>>58500190
Learning Kanji the way the OP has listed is beyond pointless. You need to learn all the readings and some example words of the kanji being used in context when you learn a new kanji. Just learning one of the possible english readings for a character is stupid. You'll be trying to read and think that 先生 means previous life and have no idea how to pronounce it.
>>58500199
sleep tight Plato
押しかけ女房
>woman who forced her husband into marriage
Fucking 3DPD
>>58500172
They're all pronounced "ten" and are: point, heaven/sky, shop suffix, exhibit, 10, japanese marten, code of law/ceremony/celebration, nonchalant, and an expression that refers to a word which meaning or pronunciation is changed from the usual.
>>58500155
portuguese is like the 6th most spoken language. i think it's actually higher than japanese. its worth is still relative though, it all depends on what you do with it
>south american subhumans invade and ruin yet another thread that had nothing to do with them
Just another day on /v/.
>>58500206
We're jews because unlike the rest of lazy ass spain we set up industry and work our asses off.
Classy.
No siesta here, la pela es la pela.
>>58500196
you get a lot of practice on accident once you are deeper in. like reading news articles/magazines
How do people study anything?
I just browse /v/ all day
How do you guys do it
>>58500133
Speaking Japanese is easy, being able to read a newspaper is on a whole different level
>>58500211
>le European Portuguese = Brazilian Portuguese meme
Estou a ver um paneleiro aqui.
>>58500122
>>58500172
http://jisho.org/
Just write anything here.
shiryou
資料 - documents
飼料 - fodder
史料 - historical records
試料 - sample, specimen
死霊 - spirit of a dead person
思料 - consideration
私領 - private land
shishi
獅子 - lion
志士 - patriot
四肢 - limbs
士師 - judge (not current day)
獣 - beast
孜々 - diligently
司試 - bar examination
市肆 - storehouse
死屍 - corpse
史詩 - historical poem
嗣子 - heir
Most kanji on themselves are also homonymous with other kanji. Granted some of these words are older and not seen that often. But you just have to consider that Japanese kana (which cover all the possible sounds of the language) are based on just 46 pre-made syllables (and few variations like gemination), which is a lot more limited than f.ex. English and being able to combine any consonant, at times more than one consonant with a vowel.
I am learning it, I did 2000 words of RTK and am about 700 words into Core2k now. It's disheartening how much I forget, but I've gone too far to stop. I will learn that shitty language eventually.
>>58500210
OP here, please don't take the pic seriously it was just a random google pic.
>>58500188
>Insults my ability to read whilst completely missing the point.
>the o in woman makes the short i sound
If you say wiman rather than woman, you're a retard.
t. not you
>>58500217
My granparents worked their assess off for you, BCN was build mostly thanks to immigrants from the other territories.
And franco gave you seat.
>be japanese
>dont live in japan
Time to learn german or something i guess
>>58500223
gambatte!
>>58500216
Hola amigo, quieres unos tacos? Comer tacos es mejor do que aprender japones para poder bater palo a juegos de lolis
>>58500226
We had industry way before that.
My family has owned business here for centuries.
Cry me a river about the "bourgeoisie".
Will I be able to read easier manga after finishing Genki 1 & 2?
>>58500221
Oh fuck off Manuel, they're the same, just add Pois at the end of every sentence or psh if ygou're on /int/. Sprinkle some fixe here and there and you're golden.
>>58500221
HUE HUE HUE
>>58500230
I never denied that, so did the rest of the country, but you have jew blood, it has nothing to do with being lazy and a lot with being greedy assholes.
>get a JP penpal to talk with about vidya,etc. and practice
>stops replying
Well fuck you too buddy.
How many kanjis do I need to know to play porn games/read porn manga?
>>58500235
g-gomen...
>>58500215
The ranking for the languages barely matter, what matters is how much use you would get from it. What kind of use are you getting from Portuguese? Certainly nothing to compare the kind of use your average /v/ person would get from Japanese.
What kind of media from Portugal or Brazil would we even consume? Brazilian "novellas"? Please.
>>58500236
Several.
>>58500227
>learning a soon-to-be dead language
Most games I like don't require reading or have pretty accurate translations/fan translations. Still I would lie to say there's nothing only in Japanese I would love to play, like dragon quest IV DS or moon rpg remix.
>>58500239
So like six or seven?
>>58500236
About 2000
>"Why don't you know any other languages, Anon?"
>"Why bother, we'll all be speaking English soon."
>everyone in the room proceeds to get as mad as possible
>>58500221
Aew galera eu fumo oregano joda a policia
>>58500234
Greed is good.
Maximize shekel gains. What's wrong with mastering the art of the deal and acquiring as many shekels as possible?
>>58500235
>penpal
this is such a foreign thing to me. did you actually write letters to him? like with an actual pen
>>58500217
I aqui en andalucia mis abuelos trabajaban la tierra desde los 3 años de sol a sol
Ni siesta ni mierdas.
Si hay algo que no me gusta de los del norte es que se creen superiores.
Es que ya os vale.
>>58500236
fucking dunno but since i learned 大丈夫 (daijoubu) i hear it like 5 times per anime episode
>>58500236
3k or so
>>58500238
>he doesn't know about gof tier brazilian literature
>he doesn't know about god tier brazilian music
Yeah, you're right. Better to read and play porn, isn't it?
>>58500247
>omg pen and paper is such a foreign concept to me
Literally underaged b&
>>58500240
I will make the fuhrer proud and save the whites
>>58500225
Not the other anon, but look at the picture again. It says "women", not "woman". And o in women is pronounced like the short i sound.
>>58500253
Bist du Nazi?
>>58500236
Don't learn kanji, learn vocabulary.
>>58500149
Because editing the page is hard?
>>58500242
About that, yeah. 8 for the really obscure ones.
>>58500251
Brazillian culture is a mix of european hispanic culture and also garbage.
>>58499998
I don't play games for the text/plot.
Checkmate, Japfags.
>>58500253
God speed anon. If you go to Germany, slaughter as many arabs as you can.
>>58500256
Learn both
>>58500000
But ironically china keeps copying from japan with a little added explosion.
>>58500248
Hire some subsaharian workers and pay them chump change for their work.
Continue expanding your plantation and make sure to pay them as little as possible to maximize gains.
If you had the true spirit of a merchant you'd have realized that doing the handiwork yourself is for peasants. Hire someone to do it instead, but for a very low price.
You don't think we set up industry in Catalunya for free, don't you?
>>58500251
>god tier brazilian literature
Is this a joke?
So since this is now a general language thread, is there any reason to learn any of the norse languages? Are they hard?
>>58500255
Nein. Ich bin honorary aryan
>>58500262
Why?
>>58500252
no need to get all aggressive. It's just weird to me. But it's also cool
>>58500255
Ich kann Deutsch ein bischen. Bin ich jetz Nazi?
>>58499998
>'Boy' contains the kanji for Strength
>'Angry' contains the kanji for Girl
Oh japs
>>58500269
>no need to get all aggressive
Yes there is a need. You are under 18 and should not be browsing this website. Get b8 faget.
>>58500243
>>58500250
That's a lot of kanjis! Is that really nessisary I thought porn was written pretty simply...
>>58500256
But how can I read anything if it's all in kanji and I only know the word sounds?
>>58500236
Depends. There's very easy to understand games that might have much less than 2k kanji, while there's also (rare) eroge which use 3k or more and are above JLPT N1 in terms of reading difficulty.
>>58500264
We were the peasants.
The whole of Andalucia was owned by a handful of terratenientes.
Different circumstances for different territories but the lazy stereotype really pisses me off.
>>58500265
So you've never read anything? Good to know you've no idea what you're talking about.
>>58500266
Denmark is a pretty badass country. Finnland is OK too. Finnish is a shit-tier language, though and ultimately, everyone knows English. For cultural reasons, you should look at French, German, Spanish and Italian. For vija, Russian, Japanese and Korean.
>>58500267
I can't read Deutschespeak but I think that's a "No, I am an honorary aryan". Is douchespeak easy in general?
>>58500273
Porn is made for adults, Japanese kids learn about 2k Kanji throughout school.
>>58500013
They both can be used the same, but depending on how you form the sentence.
Left can be powerful or strength, same goes to the right character.
>>58500266
Finnish is weird. It's an Uralic language, not Indo-European like other Norse languages (Swedish and whatever)
Egypt Souls.
DO IT
>>58500276
Not him but its not just literature. Brazil has never produced anything of worth. Anything.
>>58500219
Someone pls help
>>58500275
Keep being a good goy and perhaps one day you can be one of the Schlomos just like me.
>>58500276
I have. For the entire first half of my life actually. You see, I'm a fucking Brazilian.
>>58500268
Understanding the Kanji from the vocab you have already learned makes it easier to absorb more vocabulary. You'll improve much faster than if you ignore the Kanji and just try wrote memorization of words.
Should I learn Russian to fully understand the cheeki breeki?
>>58500278
Not german. The honoray aryan part was not german to my knowledge.
I dont know enough german to say how hard it is, but it doesnt seem too hard. Id say go for it.
>>58500273
>But how can I read anything if it's all in kanji and I only know the word sounds?
I think he meant to say that instead of trying to memorize a kanji's form, its core meaning and all possible pronunciations of it without any sort of context you should try to learn whole words, along with the associated kanji.
However you should still try to learn kanji the proper way as well, at least a bit to be able to distinguish similar radicals (smaller part of kanji) from each other. While 2k kanji is considered the bare minimum, these 2k kanji are made up of about only 200 radicals, and more simple kanji can work as radicals in more complex kanji.
>>58500283
They do have some pretty hot women though.
>>58500272
Wtf is your problem jimmy? I'm 24, I wish I was under 18, the crippling existential crisis is starting to sink in and making me want to kill myself.
I was just amazed at you writing to a stranger in pen&paper. what do you even talk about?
>>58500278
German supposedly is pretty hard to learn, especially the articles. I wouldn't know though :^)
>>58500283
Nice meme.
>>58499999
Why would anyone want to learn Spanish?
There are no Spanish speaking countries worth visiting save for Spain who is on the down spiral hard anyway.
>>58500292
You're replying to a different guy m8
>>58500284
i'm in the same situation. you sign up for a course, or you do it of your own will. 4chan is bad for you, internet addiction is a real thing. but if you're a rich kid, who cares i guess.
>>58500292
>I was just amazed at you writing to a stranger in pen&paper
I'm not even that fuck, kid.
>the crippling existential crisis is starting to sink in and making me want to kill myself
Confirmed underage b8
>>58500225
>he still literally isn't able to read
oh my sides
>>58500283
Sure kid, come back to me when your head's out of your ass and you have a glimpse of other countries have to offer outside of 4chan.
>>58500286
Have you now? Please tell me what books you read and how they're shit. Wait, don't tell me you only read whatever your school forced you to.
>>58500078
10/10 post look at all the retard burgers you got replies from
I learned English by playing N64 and GBA games from emulators as a kid, I just google every word I didn't know and learned it involuntarily in a year.
You can't do the same for japanese
>>58500295
People with a lot of hispanic underlings can benefit from it. I would hire someone who can tacospeak with them beaners to control them.
>>58500293
>>58500289
I'm a filthy asian but I want to learn wurst language. I'll give it a shot then.
I wanted to learn by playing some of the Jap only import games i have and translate one sentence at a time till it starts sticking. Then I realized I have no idea how to even look up a Kanji I see on screen. Back to square 0 for me.
>>58500288
Cheeki breeki is ukrane though.
>>58500294
>>58499998
>using the kanji for good
s.m.h.
>>58500278
Es ist nicht so schwer, aber sein sehr lästig die Genera, udw.
>>58500303
Good luck mein schwarzmann
>>58500298
then why did you reply
go eat shit.
>>58500310
Because it is anon's duty to point out shitters that shouldn't be here.
>>58500300
I stopped reading in Portuguese a long time ago, the last few Brazilian books I read were probably "O grande sertao veredas" and "Vidas Secas".
>>58500290
Oh OK.
>>58500304
Learn what radicals are, or alternatively learn the general stroke order rules so you can draw them to look them up.
>tfw I know the meaning and at least one reading for all of the runes in op just from playing games and watching animes
not going to be that guy and pretend that means I can learn the whole language that way, but I don't get why people waste their time with heisig and shit.
I spent 2 years learning Japanese and I can't find a single game worth putting the knowledge to use on. Before you waste your time learning, make sure you actually like video games or reading.
>tfw taking first semester of nip nop class
>this guy is in it
http://www.buzzfeed.com/krishrach/people-cant-stop-talking-about-this-dudes-awesomely-nerdy-ha?utm_term=.jy8LQPV0k
>>58500068>tfw I thought Japanese were pure group when in reality they're just Chinese + Korean + little bit of Ainu.
https://heritageofjapan.wordpress.com/yayoi-era-yields-up-rice/who-were-the-yayoi-people/making-sense-of-dna-data-and-origins-of-the-japanese/
Chinks were everywhere.
>>58500308
>aber sein sehr lästig die Genera, udw
u wot m8
>>58500312
Ok. And those were bad how?
>>58500245
>joda
nice try spanitard
foda
and you would need to add at least a "se" before it
>Aew galera eu fumo oregano, se foda a policia
to add credibility
>>58500306
Don't bother replying. The Brazilians will go to hell and back to prove that they have some sort of fictional worth.
They are delusional. Everybody knows what a pathetic little country they are.
>>58500319
^^
t. bern
>>58500321
Obrigado fdp
>>58500317
>Buzzfeed
Fuck off.
>>58500320
Eh, they weren't necessarily bad. Personally I didn't find them to be anything out of the ordinary, which can be either a good or a bad thing depending on who you ask. I found them both to be extremely rich in cultural value, more specifically regional culture.
Certainly not on international "god tier" literature level.
>>58500013
>Using please when you're mad
Beta alert
>>58500291
This is a myth, Brazilian women have good asses that go to shit by the time they hit their late 20's, and no tits. A 30 year old BR woman is usually a 2 or a 3
They do fuck pretty well though
>は 早い!
>>58500251
>monkeys
>culture
LMAO
>>58500301
>I just google every word
fuck i learned with a REAL dictionaryplaying fallout 2
>>58500329
Isnt it 速い in this case?
>>58500322
What annoys me is how everybody is shitting on Spanish, when portu geese is shitier language.
>>58499998
not every one is fucking weaboo.
If I can read kana just fine can I play older Nip games to improve my vocab? SNES shit is all in hiragana right?
>>58500325
>Im fitting in
>>58500307
>not doing that
I bet you read it as いい every time anyway and never よい
>>58499998
That picture is so shitty
>>58500332
Early/Fast
How are Chinese and Arabic as languages to learn, they both seem different enough from the Germanic and Latin languages I already know. Are theyfunto learn.
>>58500335
The Goonies 2 (great sidescroller action game on NES) is all katakana.
for real though how does one even begin to learn a language? where do you start etc, i find it all very confusing.
>>58500328
How would you know
>>58500332
Yes, that means fast speed
>>58500342
Well for Japanese you read Tae-Kim then read manga, somewhere between there and being able to understand it properly and reading proper books you start posting on DJT and argue with everyone all day.
how hard is french to learn?
>>58500342
You don't. You had to be lucky enough to be born into a place where you could assimilate more than language as a child.
>>58500337
tfw everytime I see it I read it as yoi and have to correct myself mentally
>>58500343S-Science and stuff
>>58500345
wut about russian?
>>58500340
They're both extremely hard and pointless (except arabic if you want to get hired in the mil)
>>58500326
Surely, I agree with you. Both these books however are indeed as you said, cultural marks. It barelly means anything for people anywhere other than the nordeste, much less for people outside brazil.
For all the "entry level" fame it gets, Bras Cubas was one of the most interesting reads I had done last year, and believe me, I work an 8 hour job where 6 of those hours I spend sitting pretty not doing shit but read books waiting for something to happen. I've read shit and I've read good stuff. Brazilian books were one of the best in my opinion. German came in second.
>>58500351
Yeah, but most languages are pretty pointless to me since I'm a shutin who will never have the money to travel anywhere, I'm asking more on a basis on how fun they are to learn.
>>58500348
I do it every so often, when I can't pin down someones personality/speach patterns yet and just read it like I'd say it. I think it's just something you get used to.
>>58500088
I hate this picture so much
Find me a word where gh is not at the end of the word and still makes the f sound
Find me a word where ti makes the sh sound anywhere but before -onVowels are a bit of a clusterfuck though
>>58500345
>you read Tae-Kim then read manga
People should stop recommending this. Really. Tae-Kim barely teaches you the tip of the iceberg. It is by no means going to get you on manga level grammar.
>>58500251
If the literature was that good, it would have been translated into a language that actually matters
>>58500353
It's literally impossible to learn chinese without talking to other people constantly. Arabic isn't very fun to learn because there's no good material for it. German is nice because of metal groups and literature. Japanese is nice because of manga and games. French also has relevant documents but it's not as nice as german overall, although it does have french animation that's watchable by adults. Italian and spanish are about on the same level, but italien is a lot more "harmonic" and thus if you care about that you'll have more fun learning it. Those are the ones I've dabbled in
>>58500266
I hope you aren't implying Finnish is Nordic
>>58500356
>you start posting on DJT and argue with everyone all day
Considering he said that I doubt he was serious.
>>58500356
No they shouldn't stop recommending this. Tae-Kim is easily enough to get you to enough knowledge to read manga. Just pick something like Ika Musume instead of Hyouge Mono or some shit. You don't start learning English by doing grammar books and then reading Paradise Lost do you?
>>58500356
If you don't know about tae-kim, that's fine, but there's no need to pretend you do. It makes you look like a fool after all.
>>58500356
Nothing wrong with that. It's not like they tell you to stop learning grammar after tae kim.
>>58500355
>Find me a word where gh is not at the end of the word and still makes the f sound
toughness
>>58500356
My problem with it is that is not really in depth and gives you like 3 examples per section of grammar, and that's not nearly enough. But it's good enough as a primer, and from there you can go to other materials without being completely lost, because like he said, grammar books usually teach in nonsensical and arbitrary ways.
A hacked 3DS is amazing for playing nip games without spending 1-2x the retail price on importing it
>>58500364
You cheeky bastard
Japanese would be easier if they would just drop fucking Kanji altogether
>>58500358
>It's literally impossible to learn Chinese without talking to other people constantly
Because of the tonality?
>Arabic isn't very fun to learn because there's no good material for it.
I thought there was a lot of historical writing from the last 2000 yeas that were well preserved, I guess I must have been mistaken. I don't know my history all that well.
>German is nice because of metal groups and literature
I'm not really into metal, besides geothe and such, what Germanic literature would you recommend?
>>58499998
I'm moving to Japan in October for a year and haven't learned anything else than Hiragana yet
How fucked am I?
I feel like my time there won't be that fun if I spend it learning Japanese.
>>58500368
Only people that never studied the language or gave up as soon as they saw kanji think this.
>>58500136
i dont know where to fucking start with radicals
from my ~300 kanji ive learned just by pure memorization by staring at it and repeating and i know this will start to fail any second now
>>58500371
Seemed to work fine for the Koreans
>travel to japan next month
>literally can't speak a single word japanese
SASUGA ME
>>58500370
Why would you move then
>>58500370
Well you have 4 months of summer to learn
>>58500375
for my job
>>58500372
https://jii.moe/4yCqEWPkZ.apkg
>>58500374
Just reply with KAWAII~ and DOUSHIO~~~~ to everything and you should be fine
It works in my chinese cartoons
>>58500365
>gives you like 3 examples per section of grammar, and that's not nearly enough.
Isn't that why you go to read manga though? To see more examples?
People overcomplicate it and spend far too long doing grammar books. Read Tae Kim or whatever you pick, while reading easy manga something with a translation and check yours against theirs. Get it wrong? Go back to Tae Kim and read whatever particle/grammar caused you to get it wrong.
Worst comes to worst you can put anything into google e.g. "まい grammar" and you get more examples. Just don't do 3 different grammar books and doing kanji 2k or something before you even pick up a book, it's no wonder people quit early.
>>58500377
What kind of job could you do if you dont know japanese
>>58500378
thanks cootie
>>58500266
Finnish is not that super difficult, just different from English though it's more difficult than Japanese grammar wise. They're both agglutinative languages. It's a lot like Japanese in the sense that both often string different morphemes together, though assimilation, consonant gradiation and such things make Finnish look horrible first, even though there's clear rules for them as well.
F.ex.
>koirallasiko = "is your dog in possession of X?"
>koira / lla / si / ko
>core word / adessive (on top of something, or something possesses something) / "your" (your dog) / interrogative
>食べられますか
>taberaremasuka = "is X able to be eaten?"
>tabe / rare / masu / ka
>core word / potential / polite present tense verb ending / interrogative
The biggest problem with people learning a foreign language is that they try to think new languages through their own mother tongue. It took ages for me to wrap my head around は when it simply states topic, i.e. "speaking about A, B is true".
>私は寿司です。 = "Speaking of me, sushi." (can be used to answer what you want to eat for example)
>>58500374
Just practice バーガーお願いします and you'll be fine.
>>58500370
>go hard on shit
or if you live near somewhere with a good japanese program
>take summer class for grammer and sentence structure shit
>go hard on vocab/kanji
its better than nothing
>>58500369
Unless you care about learning the old English equivalent of arabic, none of these documents matter to you. Nevermind the fact that none are any interesting.
For german literature, Patrick Süskind or Frank Kafka are good for beginners.
>>58500374
Learn some katakana at least
>>58500362
>If you don't know about tae-kim
What are you even talking about? If I didn't know tae-kim how would I know that people constantly tell you to read yotsuba or ika after tae kim?
I know you must not be very bright, but use your head once in a while.
>>58500383
>speaking about A, B is true
why did you think about it like this
は is a topic marker and once you get that through your head a couple time its not difficult at all, though im not sure what your first language is
fuck particles though. に constantly fucks me up
>>58500383
>The biggest problem with people learning a foreign language is that they try to think new languages through their own mother tongue. It took ages for me to wrap my head around は when it simply states topic, i.e. "speaking about A, B is true".
Personally I found it surprisingly easy to grasp that sort of stuff, but then again I started with English, which has a very informal messy structure, so going to something that's more structured was easier than one might expect.
Thank you for the in depth breakdown though anon, it was very informative and I appreciate the effort.
>>58500389
If you know French, it's actually pretty easy to grasp all the はでにを shit because you need to be constantly aware of them to correctly conjugate in French.
>>58500386
>Unless you care about learning the old English equivalent of arabic, none of these documents matter to you. Nevermind the fact that none are any interesting.
I was sort of under the impression that arabic had been more stable than other languages over the years, my mistake, again I'm not too good with history.
>For german literature, Patrick Süskind or Frank Kafka are good for beginners.
OK thanks for the recommendations anon.
>>58499998
Jap gaming has been dead for years.
>>58500387
I knew Katakana and Hiragana both at some point, drilled them into my mind back in my weeb days. Even though it's long gone, I'll probably relearn them in a few days.
Welp, it's going to be an adventure.
>>58500392
>arabic had been more stable than other languages over the years,
Yeah, it has. Same with hebrew, chinese and japanese among others. But that doesn't mean it literally never changed.
>>58500391
Nah, i only know english and japanese is the first language im actually trying to learn so its a bit of a struggle for me on the particle end.
>>58500396
i just picked japanese as my 3rd language, and yeah you are not alone
>>58500383
Learning foreing languages is only difficult if you're a bonehead who expect the foreign language's structure and grammar to correspond 1:1 with your native language, which is why many (not all) Americans have a harder time with it compared to ESLs.
>>58499998
I am.
Learning to speak Japanese is easy
Learning to read and write Japanese is very hard
I don't think I have the discipline to learn it
>>58500318
so are the japanese just asian mexicans?they need to breed with more whites tbqh half jap half aryan girls are fucking amazing
>>58500398
what's your non-english other language?
>>58500403
Portuguese.
>>58500403
my native one, portuguese (brazillian) hue
i should be trying to improve my english tho
>>58499998
>trivializing something that takes years of constant study to reach a point of literacy
If you learn an entirely foreign language AND its 2 alphabets AND its 10000+ extra characters just to play video games, you probably like video games too much.
>>58500405
>>58500404
You could be worse off, Japanese has some Portuguese loanwords.
>>58500406
>AND its 2 alphabets
Not even worth a mention. The 2 alphabets can be learned in less than a week.
>>58500407
Personally I think phonetics wise it has quite a few similarities senpai. You can usually tell an american trying to speak Japanese by the accent alone. Key word being usually.
>>58500401
A lot of people on /a/'s DJT seem to be hammering through Anki to get the vocab down. I don't know how many of them are actually writing Kanji by hand.
I find I don't really learn them if I don't write them by hand. It's a slow process.
>>58500407
Is it because Brazil has a large population of ethnic Japanese people? I wonder if a lot of Japanese-Brazillians know Japanese?
>>58500407
Japanese has alot of loan words but most are in Katakana so its not a big deal
>>58500409
I've been using apps to "write" kanji by hand. I think it helps more than just reading
>>58500410
>Is it because Brazil has a large population of ethnic Japanese people?
Hardly. It's more of a Japan-Portugal thing.
>>58500409
Writing is fun, and the only thing Japanese I still do. I've given up on reading because manga is boring, and so are video games. Learning another language really shows you how shitty video game writing is. If you don't enjoy reading books, you're probably wasting your time.
Don't learn another language unless you've got a lot of reasons to use the language, not just because you're really interested in the culture, or pop-culture.
>>58500410
Japanese has German loan works as well IIRC
"Arubaito"I don't have my Japanese keyboard installed on this computer.
>>58500078
This, ESL and English took me pretty much half a year to master. I had to Google natives' shitty spelling/grammar to make sure I wasn't the one writing things wrong, so maybe Americans and Englishmen are just retards and inbreds.
>>58500415
Holy fuck, I learned something today. I always wondered where that word was from, thanks anon.
>>58500006
There's all the Gundam and SRW if you like robots
>>58500410
It's because the Portuguese were one of the first non-asians to come in contact with the Japanese. That's why bread is パン "pan".
>>58500415
アルバイト
We've also covered パーン or whatever I don't remember if it's long vowel who cares.
Interestingly enough "to smoke (cigarettes)" is part of our final lesson in 101, and it has とばこ, like that, in hirigana and not katakana. I don't get it.
>all these dumb faggots in this thread who haven't learned the superior language, Esperanto
>>58500417
There's also a German word that describes the syndrome where kanji become meaningless if you stare at them too long. I forget what it's called though, sounds like "gess fall" or something.
>>58500415
Saw Arbeit macht frei on the news and it clicked that it was アルバイト
im so slow
>>58500422
Gestaltzerfall
>>58500420
>とばこ
タバコ
You should really install Rikaisama. It'd make your learning go a lot more smoothly.
>>58500417
I don't know why I have this picture.
>>58500112
>three years
>as a NEET
That's just sad.
>>58500425
I typo'd the first one, but in the Genki book it's in hirigana for some reason. I've since heard Genki can be kind of weird, though.
>>58500409
>>58500412
I use mspaint or the handwriting feature from google translate to write shit down as I learn it.
I figured if an OCR program can recognize my shitty handwriting then it's good enough.
>>58499998
this isnt video game related and its shitty language
>>58500428
You talkin shit, fucknigga?
>>58500420
You're using Genki I right? I noticed that, too.
>>58500428
Genki is there to teach you the very basics, and I think it's fantastic at it. People on /a/ would recommend against it, but going into a language blind (aside from knowing just the 2 syllabaries), Genki is extremely helpful. Of course you move on to other grammar guides, like Tae Kim and the Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar, but Genki sets you nicely.
>>58500402What's with all this stuff about half jap half whites looking good? All the ones I've met looked weird as fuck and I've seen plenty.
Even other east/south east asian groups mixed with whites turn out with uncanny appearance.
>>58500432
タバコは体に悪い! 大麻も吸っていけないよ。
>>58500435
It called people having opinions and preferences, anon.
>>58500431
メアーリさん no please
>>58500434
Well I'm using it since I'm taking 101 at a university. I feel like I'm leaving this class with decent working knowledge, since I've been able to read some things (very little, but some is more than none), but as much as I would love to continue I won't be since this class was just to fill my schedule and does nothing for me as far as credits go.
I tried teaching myself with Tae Kim like two years ago or something like that, but I think I'll try again since I have a starting point already.
>>58500437
That's the thing. I'm wondering what you find about them that is attractive. Not just explaining it with one word. Is it their eyes? Their nose? Shit like that.
>>58500436
>タバコは体に悪い
Just out of curiosity, what would this sentence mean exactly if I traded に for が? Or would it just be grammatically incorrect?
>>58500420
>>58500428
Tobacco is such an old loan word (brought by Portuguese merchants during Muromachi period) and was already pretty much considered "a regular Japanese term" by the point when the first modern Japanese government started officially making katakana the phonetic alphabet for loan words.
>>58500001
truly amerilard thinking.
>>58500435
Not going to lie here about 6 years back in HS we had a transfer student literally and she was a half jap half white tall long amazing legs perky tits brunette hair and asian eyes she was gorgeous
>>58500442
Go away South American, your people have left the thread a while ago.
>>58500439
I never said I personally find them attractive, but I don't find it weird that other people find them attractive.
>>58500440
As for tobacco, bad for your body.
VS
As for tobacco, your body is bad.
>>58499998
I am grinding Hiragana right now. I am not moving on until I am sure I can read any Hiragana symbol at any given point at any given time. Then Katakana. Reading is most important part about learning any language, if I can't read by just glancing with my eyes I am not accepting going forward.
>>58500102
What's easy about English is that vast majority of those grammar rules aren't used in every day life. It's harder for natives because school demands you to know them, but ESLs such as myself who learn it at their leisure can just learn couple of rules and be all set. Now comprehending other language is an entirely different process that never stops once you start applying learnt language. English is, quite frankly, pretty easy to learn, but like any other language, hard to master.
Is there anything like wanikani out there that's not behind a shitty paywall that forces me to input text to keep going?
I was doing really good with that program until it tried to Jew me with a subscription.
>>58500438
>I would love to continue I won't be since this class was just to fill my schedule and does nothing for me as far as credits go.
I'm finishing Japanese 102 in a couple weeks and graduating, I'll miss having a class. Most of the students in it are actually tolerable human beings.
I didn't take earlier because "Hey I covered my foreign laguage credits in High School." I regret not starting sooner.
>>58500446
Why did you translate the original sentence, you are hurting me. I was glad that I didn't need a translation on that.
YOU RUINED IT
>>58500131
Aren't there unis that have support for international students? I know the language courses usually end up being super short and shit but it still exists right?
>>58500443
So basically an east asian face with a white body type?
The ones I've met throughout my school life looked like native indians.
>>58500446
>As for tobacco, your body is bad.
>Your body is no good for it
Heh, that's an amusing change in meaning.
>>58500435
I've seen some half chink/gooks half whites and they seem overall good in looks or cute. You probably just happen to have a bad luck with them anon
http://www.kanjidamage.com/kanji/1733-disaster-%E7%81%BD
What are some japanese games that will never be fan/translated?
>>58500456
Kino no Tabi had 2 visual novels.
>>58500340
I want to learn these after Japanese, as well as Russian. More of a challenge than another romance language (I already know one) or another germanic language. And culturally relevant.
>>58500455
>kanjidamage
>>58500452
not quite completely white body type but its a shame anon some of them are perfect
>>58500457
>visual novels
i said games but sure they're on a console
>>58500421
>Learning artificial languages for artificial fun
>>58500225
God damn, son. Just look at the fucking word.
>>58500456
actually never ever. Bloodborne has a better chance of coming to the PC than this being translated
The japanese in this is really fucking hard too
>>58500462
Jokes on you, I actually make one for fun.
>>58500464
Real shame too. It's a really good VN. I've studied nip for 3 years and I still struggle with a lot of parts of it, but the story and character development is fantastic.
>>58500462
That's how we got Lord of the Rings, though.
>>58499998
Hello /int/, never been here before.
>>58500464
again, not a game but I agree it will never be translated
also, fucking mods
MODS == GODS
>>58499999
Checked
What is this magical place?
>>58500519
MODS=/= GODS
>displaced
WEW
at least it's not a raw deletion as usual.
>>58500466
yeah, being able to play this game is my biggest goal more or less even though im not big on VNs
Fuck off mods
I don't want web shit here
>>58500548
/int/, where multiple nation's shitposting teams go head to head for glory and honour.
Why even bother when the thread is 20 posts away from bump limit?
>>58500519
>Move thread to a more appropriate place 30 posts before bumplimit
/brit/
>>58500597
>Not wanting to continue on a slow board like int
>>58500632
>/pk/
>>58500654
I don't know how /int/ works, but it says we reached bump limit already, so maybe their limit is 400?
>>58500654
>Continue
I'd rather start discussing anime so that mods would move thread to /a/ 5 posts before bump limit.
>>58500697
I think it's 300, most boards have a 300 bump limit and a 150 image limit.
Some boards like /v/, /a/, have higher ones like 500, and I think /vg/ has the highest of them all at 800 or 1000 or something
>thread is already past the /int/ bump limit
>move it there anyway
ayy lmao
>>58500697
310 posts
If you were going to move it to /int/ might as well just kill the thread
>>58500715
You are welcome to try friend.
So what animu are you watching this season.
>>58500762
So maybe this is the thread with the most posts in int's history.
>>58500715
And then/a/ will gangmurder the mods
>>58500795
POO
IN
LOO
>>58500362
Tae Kim stop pretty much at N4 grammar level.
That's obviously not enough to read a manga.
source did tae kim and beyond
Recommend me a game or VN that's has very easy jap and is an okay game
>>58500809
Hey serious question do you have Canadian boipucci? I love those
>>58500784
JoJo part 4- Its alright so far, my favorite part but just not excited about it yet
Kuma Miko-cute
Tanaka-san- cute girl makes it worth it
Boku no Hero- Nice adaption so far, manga is fun
Kiznaiver- its good but i dont know what this plot can actually mean in terms of development which is mostly why im still watching it
>>58500784
This season?
BACKLOG
A
C
K
L
O
G
Nothing looks much appealing. But I do follow Ace Attorney because I love games too much.
>>58500873
kek
>>58500840
It goes way beyond N4, but grammar isn't worth actively studying, just look shit up you don't understand when it comes up.
>>58500873
Cheeky limey
>All this multinationality in a /v/ jap learn thread
Who would have thought that weeaboo games could unite people across borders like this.
While on the topic of animu, what would be a good series to watch unsubbed? I'm currently upto date with ARC-V and I noticed all kanji is placed in Furigana. So there must be some entertaining series that are for kids that are learning Japanese right? Right?
>>58500869
Oh, I forgot, I watch Boku no Pico Academia, too.
It's really good, but fuck, we'll need to wait at least one year before Sports Festival and Stain.
>>58500942
Maybe some super sentai would be good.
>>58500942
>Arc-V
What? Is Xyz also getting a tournament?
>>58500942
DJT on /a/ actually has rec list specifically for that. Well, there are no animu series, like 2-3 movies and VNs, but I'd wager any Shonen series shouldn't be too hard to comprehend. Like American capeshit comics from Big Two.
>>58500942
Doraemon movies?
Sazae san?
Tensai bakabon?
>>58500975
>>58501058
Thanks anons
>>58501076
>Doraemon
Sazae-san looks the most appealing to my eyes I guess. Not really willing to go through Doraemon even though Ikuhara is writing it
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