Why does this country not have a proper name?
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"USA" or "America" are NOT a valid names.
You can't combine multiple states and simply call the result "United States". You also can't name a country after a continent. America is a continent, not a country!
Let's have a look at Germany:
We also consist out of multiple states (16 to be precise), but we are not called "The United States [of Europe]" or "Europe". We have our own name, Germany. So why does this poor, poor country not have its own name?
The same logic also applies to "Australia" or "South Africa".
We do
United States Of America
It's not actually just called America or USA Muhammad u stupid fucking roach.
>>58372490
America isn't a continent
There is North and South America, but no singular America beyond us (America)
It is a valid name because its our name and people have used it to refer to us for centuries, stop being a little faggot like those latinos and just use America
Because it started it's life as a colony??? I thought this would be a rather simple concept for somebody to handle.
>German Education
Or are you even German? Hard to tell desu
>>58372550
>USA = United States of America
I didn't see the need of writing this down. Even for murricans...
It is odd
Why did they name themselves that
Is it because there was no other country in the continent of America back then?
>>58372853
Because we were states that were becoming united into one country in America. Its not hard.
at the time the name was made it was more of a loose federation really, places like New York and Virginia were acting pretty independent
How can it be called the united states if there are other *real* countries on this continent. What would happen if these countries would unite as well? Would it be called USA2 then?
>>58372853
No there were not, other land on the continent was ruled by various European powers. The US was the only independent nation.
>>58372940
They wouldn't call themselves the United States of America because that name is already taken, they would do something like Mexico (which is called the United Mexican States)
>>58372490
The most common name for the country is America in everyday speech, the full name is United States of America, though.
The people are called Americans.
I don't see how "America" is an invalid name, just because some spics get butthurt over it
Go home Mehmet, you're slightly tipsy off the Efes
>>58372940
They'd be called whatever they decided to call themself
>>58372490
>America is not a valid name
Why not? There's no other America, there's two continents named North America and South Americas, but there is no single nation called America except for the USA.
Also Mexico's official name is The United States of Mexico, but nobody gets upset over that.
>>58372490
>Germany
>not Bundesrepublik Deutschland
>>58372935
OK, but what if there already was a country formed from states in the continent of America before you guys became a country
Like say, the United Stated of Canada or the United States of Mexico
Would you still have named yourself the United States of America?
>>58373023
But what if they also want to be called The United States?
Don't you see how stupid this concept is?
>>58372490
Who will stop us?
>>58373205
What if another country wants to be called Germany?
>>58372490
the founding people decided it didn't need one
for equality
>>58373191
We are named after amerigo Vespucci
Look him up
We were Pasta Niggered
>>58373230
Those will be annihilated or annexed.
There are several countries who would like to be part of Germany...
It's America.
>America, United States of
>Ireland, Republic of
>Germany, Federal Republic of
>China, People's Republic of
>Great Britain and Northern Ireland, United Kingdom of
>>58373406
>>Germany, Federal Republic of
Right, it's not "Europe, Federal Republic of"
>>58373525
Well, there is no "America" in the world, so what's your point?
>>58373525
Not for lack of trying though you greedy little kraut.
>>58373344
So you're saying your concept is
"It's us who came up with calling this place America in the first place
who'd care if we named ourselves America"
Then I get it
>>58372490
>we are not called "The United States [of Europe]" or "Europe". We have our own name, Germany.
>>58373587
Yes, no one cared for a long time,then suddenly some people in South America are getting butthurt now, but no one in America cares we just ignore them
It's like if some guys said you can't call your country Japan anymore because it offends them
>United
>States
>of America
>>58373719
>Es ist Zeit für Reich?
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/lets-leave-the-eu-and-join-germany/
>>58372490
>"United States of America is a generic and unsuitable name!"
>Deutschland
>people land
It's called force projection, dude. If you don't agree with us we roll up with shit like this and make you agree with us. God bless America.
The only country with a real name in the Americas is glorious Brazil. It' literally means we're fire.
>>58372490
>t. the Federal Republic
>>58373827
It's "german land", you know.
>>58373897
I thought you were named after a nut.
>>58374164
brasil nuts aren't nuts btw
>>58372490
It's because our identity as a nation didn't develop until after we formed as a country. At the time of the founding, there wasn't a whole lot that linked a Rhode Islander with a Georgian, other than that they were both North American. So, the name reflected that lack of a cohesive identity.
>>58374137
It comes directly from an Old High German word meaning people. Just because everyone got used to their shit and let it mean German land doesn't mean it's still not people land.
>>58373827
>Der Begriff deutsch leitet sich vom althochdeutschen diutisc ab, was ursprünglich „zum Volk gehörig“ bedeutete
>zum Volk gehörig
>belonging to the nation
This was used to distinguish German people in the area from the French and Italian
>>58374164
We're named after a tree. It produces a red dye, so the portuguese named it Pau Brasil.
Pau = wood, Brasil comes from Brasa = ember, the suffix -il denotes quality, so it literally means Fiery Wood.
>>58374304
just like the term American is now used to distinguish us from Mexicans and Canadians rite
>>58372490
Didn't Mark Twain try to rename it Appalachia?
>>58374313
That's pretty cool. Almost sexual.
>>58374447
That's just a mountain range where the inbred rednecks live.
>>58374447
I live in actual Appalachia, why would you ever want to name the country after a place West Virginia is the center of?
Also, why does no one ever bash Austria in these threads? Literally "eastern empire".
>>58374206
>murrican identity
Which identity are you talking about? The identity of the natives, the afros, the mexicans or the chinks?
>>58372490
Everyone just calls it America because it's the only relevant country in North America. Who gives a shit about Mexico, Canada and all the other small poor shitholes? lmao
>>58374522
Our national identity, of course.
>>58374522
>not understanding American cultural assimilation
Just because your immigrants won't integrate doesn't mean ours didn't Hans.
>>58374522
kek are you retarded or just this ignorant about america?
>>58374563
Mexico is a great name, taken straight form the Mexica but made manlier.
Dunno where Canada comes from but at least it's not the United Provinces of Chesapeake or some horseshit like that.
>>58372590
I'm from south America, therefore it's technically correct for us to say that we're as american as you fag.
>>58374760
>sudacas think they will ever be referred to as "american"
lel
>>58374760
>The United States of North America
>USNA
>>58373191
Mexico is officially called United states of Mexico FYI google it if you don't believe me.
America is a proper name, but I still like the idea of using the term Unitedstatesians.
>>58374760
Do you want to be American that badly Esteban?
I think the solution for "America" is the same as the solution for Russia. Quite a few people refer to Russia as Putin's Russia (at least in my country) and since the surname of the "American" President is unlikely to be shared by any of the presidents from other American countries, it should be unique.
Just a shame they don't have a cultural identity we could use to name them.
Columbia
>>58372590
Saying that America isn't a continent is like saying Eurasia isn't a continent...
>>58374913
Utter utter retard
I bet you go to DTU or some similar spergy uni (if you went at all)
>>58374563
Almost every single country in the americas has a larger econonomy and is more relevant than your tiny piece of land. Nice try Vladimir.
>>58374758
>Leaf, the United Provinces of the
>>58373191
But Mexico's official name already is "United Mexican States"
>>58374821
South america is part of the Americas. Your argument is invalid.
>>58375036
>Leaf, the United Provinces of *a
>>58374978
Why am I replying to my own comment? Weird
>>58374847
Your country isn't the only one that calls itself United States in the Americas
>>58374847
Fuck off spic, that's not even sense make to pronounce
Just call it India. Full circle.
>>58375165
Explain
>>58375162
Fuck off spice, that sentence doesn't even make sense
>>58374852
Fortunately I'm an american myself. I was born in a subcontinent that is part of the whole americas. Try again Laquisha.
>united states of america
>united states
>alaska and hawaii too far
can't be more cuck than that
>>58375187
muh west indies
post
>>58375187
>murrican education
>>58375226
Still no one will ever call u America
Esteban on suicide watch
>>58374936
Columbia SC or District of Columbia? The country is spelles ColOmbia, but I can´t expect less from an american that barely understands what goes on outside of his state (notice how I didn´t even say country)
>>58375226
>a subcontinent
>>58375251
>United States
>States are not even united
YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>58375226
>south americans on suicide watch
>>58375305
I'd call it america. At least the people living there are american and not european.
>>58375226
>subcontinent
it's where the subhumans live
>>58375333
I love it when people make spelling mistakes while trying to correct the spelling of other people.
>>58375365
> Man ffs, you´re a minuscule island gtfo.
Same as europe, which is a subcontinent of Eurasia. Don't believe me? Google it.
>>58375165
American India would work.
>>58374522
You do realise America is older than Germany right?
>>58375513
What South Americans learn in school never cease to amaze me.
>>58375251
>The Split States of America
>>58375557
Hell, we were a thing before the HRE gave its final, pitiful deathgasps.
>>58375333
Columbia was a poetic name used for the United States of America in the 18th century, cokenigger.
>>58375226
>Living on an actual subcontinent
Perfect for a subhuman
>>58375571
I understand Europe is a continet on its own for political purposes, but the actual continental landmass comprises both Europe an asia.
>>58375576
>West Germany
>East Germany
>45 years
>entire previous existence involved being a bunch of shitty duchy-countries for centuries
>>58375576
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY
>>58375606
It's a supple and demand issue and you're the #1 consumers. Stop embarrasing yourself, Nick.
>>58375693
>previous
invalid arguement, try again amerifat.
>>58375682
that's not what defines continents, Eduardo. Continents are defined by people, and literally nobody thinks of North and South America as one entity even in the slightest outside of your continent, which always seems to have a huge chip on its shoulder about this issue.
>>58374845
>>58375054
Yeah, I know
I was just saying what if it existed before 1776 or whenever they started calling themselves the USA
>>58375786
What, do you think their current existence is a bunch of shitty duchy countries that constantly war each other? I was talking about Germany, not Yugoslavia.
>>58375804
Our history would be radically different. The fact that we were the first to go "no fuck off we're independent now" rules enough of our history that we would be a different country otherwise.
>>58375879
I am saying the opposite. You are arguing how Germany used to be divided but no longer is, while your country still is to this day.
>>58375789
>Continents are defined by people
>implying that the US, brazil, Colombia and virtually every country in the americas are not racially diverse and have similar demographics in different proportions
Alright William, I got your point..
>>58376019
Germany is also a union of states.
>>58376087
>william
>not john
Fuck, colombians can't even make a joke...
>>58376087
We're talking about stuff like a common identity, not race-related stuff. Americans share a lot more in terms of identity with Canadians than they do with Colombians or Brazilians.
>>58375789
So lets talk about asia. You say a continent ia defined by its people, so lets say, afghanistan and vietnam, both part of asia, so they must be very similar people, right?. If such people can be considered part of the same continent in your definition of a continent, i cant see why a canadian an a colombian for example cant be considered part of the same continent
>>58376019
Germany is also a federal union, I don't know what you're trying to argue. America is more decentralised, I guess.
>>58376165
>>58376087
I meant that continents are divided by popular consensus, there is no set definition of a continent. But you both were pretty quick in jumping to racial butthurt.
>>58376019
I don't understand the divided America meme at all. Politically we're about as United as it gets, even if we're a bit more decentralized by our nature than you, which is something that happens when we have literally 174 times the amount of land you do.
>>58376163
This. But overall your history is the same as every other country in America.
>colonised by european powers
>exterminated natives
>we independent now
>>58376151
>2nd in line to the british throne is a william
k brazil
>>58376165
Asia didn't have its natives slaughtered and replaced with various Europeans. As far as I'm concerned Ecuador are the only americans left.
>>58376244
oh great, Sweden is here to express its deep concern for injuns.
>>58376244
Oh look its a swede not making any sense, how surprising.
>>58372490
It's like saying - there is no ethnics, it's just bunch of individuals!
Or
There is no human beings, it's just a bunch of viruses and self sufficient genes!
>>58376235
>most common anglo name is john
k aussie
>>58376124
>>58376215
I didn't mean like that, I meant divided as in Alaska or Hawaii are not even close proximity to the contiguous US.
>>58376165
Thank you Ecuabro, It seems like it is a foreign concept for the brits.
>>58376163
Sure, you guys share the language. But I'm dead sure you wouldn's swear loyalty to the queen. There are slight differences even tho you're culturally similar. And even as hard as it might be to believe, you guys share a lot customs with us south americans.
>>58372490
>You can't combine multiple states and simply call the result "United States".
Lmao come tell us what we can and can't do fag
>>58373882
Please. Nobody's scared of the US since Vietnam.
>>58376221
>This. But overall your history is the same as every other country in America.
>>exterminated natives
Don't delude yourself
Spaniards did not exterminate their natives, you huemonkey
>>58376330
>both are perfectly fine
>>58372490
Because every state still has its own government, you stupid fuck.
>>58376339
So France and Britain are both divided, then? They have shitty belongings in south america.
>>58376244
Perhaps you mean bolivians. They have a higher proportion of native americans than ecuador
>>58376221
History of North America:
>colonised by the British and French
>exterminated natives
>we independent now
History of South America
>colonised by the Spanish and Portuguese
>fucked the natives
>we are the natives now, fuck off Spain
>>58376362
>Spaniards did not exterminate their natives
American education at it's best.
>america is a continent
no it isnt. theres north and south america, which are both part of the americas. stop believing spo memes
>same logic applies to sou'frica and australia
lol no. the pacific islands belong to no continent so the nation of australia consists of one entire continent. and soufrica is in southern africa, which complete sense.
>>58376330
a stereotypical english name is nigel. use that when talking to an english person.
>>58376244
eurospawn make up a good 85% of Ecuador's population m8
half of the rest are Afroecuadorians
>>58376461
Most south Americans are Brown troglodytes. Don't even pretend it's different
>>58376445
You forgot to mention that lots of Frenchmen and brits also came to south america and were prominent in early governments.
>>58376461
no they fucked them and made them work for them. some nations like argentina and dominican republic have a large non native population but most hispanic countries have a lot of indians or mestizos
>>58376445
And that's enough to consider them 2 different continents?
>>58376509
>a stereotypical english name is nigel. use that when talking to an english person.
ok, thanks.
>>58376523
I've never said they weren't. But 15 minutes on google and you can find out that the spanish exterminated over 95% of the native population.
Also, brown can be white + african.
>>58376518
What about Quito? I heard it was well-preserved, guess it's just the buildings then?
>>58376573
The Spanish genocided the natives so hard that 18th colonizers were like "well at least we're not as bad as the spanish"
>>58376328
>Russian triggered by the term "individual"
USSR's over Ivan
>>58376362
>Spaniards did not exterminate their natives
You need to read about something called "Conquest of the desert". This was in argentina, but similar movements happened across south america.
On top of that, lots of natives were exterminated by european diseases to which they had no immunity at the time.
>>58376518
Actually, the afroecuadorians and amerinidians are about the same percentage, and not much higher than whites. The spanish didnt bring much african slaves here, natives were much cheaper
>>58376609
they were extremely brutal and killed millions but unlike america and canada people with sizable indian ancestry are common.
>>58376362
Are you retarded
usa citizens are not very smart
Don't bully them
>>58376639
Exterminated means you killed them completely
And yet here you guys are
>>58376686
That's because America continued to exterminate and displace natives after achieving independency. We were like "we bros now"
>>58376581
No, the fact that they're not contiguous (and were barely contiguous in the first place) is. The completely different cultural and racial makeup is another matter.
>>58376732
>south america and north america
>not contiguous
>>58376609
Mostly mixed race. Full amerindians are only 7%. You could see a lot of natives on the streets on quito and other andeans cities because many amerindians inmigrate to urban centers and are generally quite poor
>>58376348
>you guys share a lot customs with us south americans
Like what? I'm actually pretty curious desu
>>58376581
Well then they made a hell of a recovery. Because from >>58376807
Mexico down to Tierra del fuego the vast majority of humans look like they stepped off of a reservation
>>58376783
>what is the Panama Canal
there was barely enough land connecting it to call it contiguous in the first place. By that logic Africa and Asia are one continent.
>>58376443
pretty much.
>>58376838
>what is Afro-Eurasia
>>58376821
Fucking phone messed up my post
>>58376807
They like baseball that's all i can think of
>>58376838
based
>>58376838
Eurasiafrica masterrace reporting in.
Though there was always trade between Asia and Europe while none of the natives ever managed to dare the Jungles of Central America so calling them connected in any way is a bit silly. At least Africa and Asia traded along the indian ocean.
>>58376881
What do you mean "what is Afro-Eurasia"? It's nothing. It's a term used only in a few scientific fields, nobody in any of those continents ever uses such a term or thinks of it that way.
>>58376723
I'm mostly of spanish and french ancestry. I don't even have ameridian features myself. I could pass as spaniard, french or italian in those countries. Thinking that we're all indigenous is a meme you seem to have a hard time understanging and explains a lot about how close-minded you are.
>>58376807
Religion, democracy, (excepting perhaps venezuela), european influence, racial diversity and much more things.
>>58377146
>religion
They're protestants, bro.
>racial diversity
They're WAY more white than we are.
>>58376838
Panama should rejoin my country :((((
>>58376941
I read somewhere that the americas didn't really have an equivalent of the silk road because it runs north-south instead west-east which makes for a lot more varied climates and landscapes or something along those lines.
>>58377146
Last i checked you were papists.
>>58376838
The Panama Canal was built to connect the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. It was contiguous before they built it.
>>58377247
Maybe they were just lazy. The Incan empire run half a continent's length vertically, up in the mountains, without beasts of burden or the wheel.
>>58377341
I just said that
>>58377170
Got you. I'm mestizo because there must've been an ameridian somewhere in my family tree a lot of generations back. But I don't have indigenous traits, I look white, can grow a beard. You wouldn't mistake for a mexican sure.
>>58377348
I guess. I'm not sure how accurate it was. But still, the equatorial climate would have made it more difficult.
>>58377252
We arent really aware of which branch of christianity we are in. We only can see differences on evangelists and jehova's witnesses, because they are crazy
>>58377348
There was trade but it wasn't as large of a scale as the silk road. Plus there civilizations starting dying in 1200s or so. The lack of fires from the American continents caused a minor ice age
>>58372490
We could go by Columbia (the gem of the ocean) but we also can't, because Colombia is too similar, and already taken by cocaine Mexicans.
>>58377378
Saying that the Americas are not contiguous because of the Panama Canal is like saying the UK is part of mainland Europe because of the Channel Tunnel.
>>58372490
USA is the abbreviation of the long form name. United Dates and America are both short form names with universal recognition.
When did Germans get so fucking stupid?
>>58376825
Most rich country in the world for decades
Still full of a problems and often make fun as being third world
Embarrassing and pathetic
>>58377422
The thing is - I don't know how it's in your cunt specifically - that almost all self-identifying "whites" have at least a couple % Amerindian or SSA in them, at least data for Brazil suggests that, as you can see not a single full Euro
>>58377535
Blown the fuck out
>>58377535
So are you saying that Africa, Asia, and Europe are actually one continent?
>>58377492
Not a good excuse m8. You guys are Roman Catholic. We are protestant.
>>58377596
Continents have never been decided by them being contiguous or not. Your premise is wrong.
>>58377146
Those aren't customs, though. Those are just basic traits of the West, other than the racial diversity thing.
>>58372590
>Latinos
Indios
FTFY
>>58377596
>>58377348
I think thats because the incan empire was established through all of the Andes mountains, which has a very similar climate all through.
>>58377524
i read the same thing on the book guns, germs and steel
>>58377252
The vast majority here are catholics. I personally don't believe in made up things, but, I know for a fact there's also lots of catholics in the states as well. I reckon your country is mainly protestant, but the rivalry between those religions is not as marked as that with islam.
canada also have a catholic majority I think.
>>58377668
Nah I think you're agreeing with him. It's the South Americans trying to argue since it was contiguous they're the same.
>>58377668
Except it's not. You can't consider North and South America to be a single continent if you don't consider Afria, Asia, and Europe to be a single continent. The connection between mainland Egypt and Sinai pre-canal was wider than the Panama isthmus.
>>58377747
That's contiguous, unless by your definition the Suez Canal separates Africa and Asia. In that case, then, the Panama Canal should do the same for the Americas.
>>58377596
All continents are the same. We just drifted apart, baby.
>>58377750
Geological evidence supports my claim (atmosphere readings from ice core samples)
>>58377762
You'd be surprised it means a lot especially in the south and more rural places. And Canada is majority protestant except for Quebec.
>>58377851
>that's contiguous
That's exactly what i'm saying, imbecile. I posted the image as a reply to >>58377596
>>58377582
It's the same thing here. There's lots of people here with blue ayes and blond hair with amerindian ancestry. Also, lots of people self report as white just by skin color.
This happens accros SA, especially in Agentina and Chile, where being white is seen as superior, even though they're clearly mixed. This is especially true in argentina, where mestizos always classify themselves as white.
>>58377770
I am not, see
>>58377827
As I said, continents are not and have never been decided solely by their degree of continuity. You can chose to follow several continental models, not one of them is more correct than the other.
Saying you can't regard it as a single continent at the same time as differing others is demonstrably wrong, it was regarded as a single continent, even in the US, until the mid 20th century.
>>58378016
What you said wasn't an argument, then. He was demonstrating how being contiguous is not a satisfactory criterion for being a continent, as demonstrated by how Afro-Eurasia is contiguous. What you posted simply confirmed what he said, moron.
>>58372490
Am I the only one that noticed that that flag is incorrect?
>>58378139
Do you have any proof to back up your claim?
>>58378016
So by your 3rd world definition, there are only 4 continents.
>>58378216
:^)
>>58378167
Holy fuck, how can americans be stupid?
It's fucking implied in the post that I consider Afro-Eurasia to be a continent.
>>58378139
Geologically, some are abso-fucking-lutely more correct than others.
>>58377878
my pangaean nigga
>>58376362
WHY am I not surprised that you are an american?
>>58378306
Good for you. You're in the tiny, tiny minority of the world that does.
>>58378267
There can be as many was you want to, but only 4 are real continents.
this thread is a bit autistic desu lads
>>58378319
Not really. Plates are all the matter on that front and whoever decided the continents didn't give half a fuck about those.
>>58378383
Not according the the international scientific community and not according to the government of any country in the world.
>>58378238
Sure.
>Lewis, Martin W.; Kären E. Wigen (1997). "1". The Myth of Continents: a Critique of Metageography. Berkeley: University of California Press. ISBN 0-520-20742-4, ISBN 0-520-20743-2.
>While it might seem surprising to find North and South America still joined into a single continent in a book published in the United States in 1937, such a notion remained fairly common until World War II. [...] By the 1950s, however, virtually all American geographers had come to insist that the visually distinct landmasses of North and South America deserved separate designations.
>>58378418
It's plates + large natural barriers.
>>58378383
That's entirely subjective friend.
In the English speaking world, North and South America are different continents, and as The United States of America are English speaking, as well as the first independent country on the continent, we get first dibs on calling ourselves whatever the hell we want to.
>>58378319
No, you can't be changing the meaning of the term continent to your liking just because.
>>58378517
Yet India is only a sub-continent despite the Himalayas. And Russia is half Europe? Doesn't hold up familia
>>58378383
There isn't a single country where the 4 continent model is taught as correct. The vast majority of the world lives in places where the 7 continent model is used.
And well, why is it so important if they dont call ous americans?.As long as they dont call all latinos mexicans, im happy
>>58378496
That same source says
>From the mid-19th century, atlases published in the United States more commonly treated North and South America as separate continents, while atlases published in Europe usually considered them one continent
It seems like it just came down to the mapmaker, rather than an established norm on either side.
>>58378518
>That's entirely subjective friend
That's the point, motherfucker. You can create an infinite number of continents based on geopolitical and social divisions, but there are only 4 landmasses can be considered actual continents.
>>58378627
There are a lot of countries that wouldn't teach one model as correct, and another as incorrect. I used to think the US would be one of them.
>>58378552
I'm not changing anything. You're denying what science has used as criteria for several generations.
>>58374760
>therefore it's technically correct for us to say that we're as american as you fag.
Not in English it isn't.
We're the United States of America because, originally, all of our States were suppose to be sovereign by nature and the federal government was meant to be basically our military.
Time passes, and we expanded as we did through military might and opportunistic plays (see all of the territories we own and States we either bought or commandeered). Hawaii was the last state we added to the Union, and every once in awhile Puerto Rico votes on whether or not to move from territory to Statehood. Last time they did I think the people of Puetro Rico decided that Yes they would like to join the Union (2012). I don't know how far along the process they are with it, and I have no fucking clue where that 51st star is going to go, but we might have a new state soon.
Our last state gained was Hawaii, as aforementioned, in 1959, 57 years ago. There's people who fought in WWII who watched it happen too.
How long until you become a part of the Union, /int/?
>>58376838
DUDE
You do know that the Panama Canal is artificial, RIGHT????
>>58378684
Not even sure about Antarcitca, might be an archipelago
> implying the botanical continents model isn't the best
>>58374520
They protected Western civilization from the barbaric Turks. They get a pass.
>>58378799
Russia is not european
>>58378695
What has science used as criteria specifically? Why is it still taught and regarded different around the world, if this science is so consise and clear?
This is not exact science in the slightest, stop spouting stupid shit.
>>58378788
So?
The African Rift valley is gonna split Africa and Asia in the future, we split the Americas in the past.
no big difference.
>>58378917
*concise
>>58378799
But why include just a part of russia? whats the criteria there? climate?
>>58378644
That'd be hard to accomplish. They believe having tacos for brakfast and luch every single day is a thing in south america.
>>58378917
The OVERWHELMING majority of the world's scientific community (and population in general) says there are 7 continents. They can be grouped into sub and supercontinents, but there are 7 main continents. You're getting mad that you're in the minority for no reason.
>>58378909
Two /v/irgins were just arguing about this.
>>58378997
>botanical continents model
>whats the criteria there?
ecuador pls
>>58378799
>Middle-eastern Caucasian
Threw up seamen all over my cuckshed
>>58378997
Ural mtns.
>>58378997
The Urals.
>>58379044
I am still waiting for you to answer my questions.
>>58378760
South america is part of the Americas. Think about it, It'd be hard I know, but still try.
>>58379107
Climate, plate boundaries, and culture.
>>58372965
Haiti was independent first, actually.
>>58379044
The overhwelming majority of the world's scientific comunity also says that Europe isn't really a continent.
I'm not trying to impose a 4 continent model here. I accept the 7 continent model. It's just that I'm trying to show you stupid americans that the division between South and North America is purely cultural and political.
>>58379085
Im sorry i never read the file names
>>58379091
>>58379093
Thank you
>>58379107
You haven't posed a single valid question. Scientific consensus for the the purposes of research and international information sharing is that there are 7.
Whether or not you believe there are or say there are on a daily basis is wholly irrelevant.
Air traffic control is conducted in English. Guess what... that doesn't mean pilots only speak English.
>>58378909
From what I understand the russian part west of the urals is in Europe as well as everything west of istambul in turkey. Idk how it is in europe but that is what I learned at school.
>>58379171
> that the division between South and North America is purely cultural and political.
That is scientifically false.
> The overhwelming majority of the world's scientific comunity also says that Europe isn't really a continent.
Also false, the say Europe is a continent and Eurasia is a supercontinent.
Get your facts straight.
>>58378786
>implying they aren't all part of the union and just don't realize it
>>58379263
Every country on this planet that has more than 2 US military bases in their country are basically part of the Union. No exceptions.
>>58379160
Please source this. Have you seen an actual map of plate boundaries?
>>58376244
Bolivia is the only country in the Americas with a native American president.
>>58379238
>Implying North and south america are not connected
Man ffs, North and south america are connected by land. If your argument is the panama canal, then you need to be aware that it is artificial.
>>58378997
Culture
>>58379325
You mean the tectonic plate map that show North and South America as different plates that don't even touch each other?
>>58379127
So you're entitled to call yourself South American.
American has been the name for citizens of the United States since our Independence. Which predates your countries independence.
Meaning that we called it luis.
>>58379168
Before the US? No they weren't pls open a fucking book
>>58379317
Why force good americans to live in some shithole anyway? Why treat your own citizens like that?
>>58379366
So regressive
>>58379376
I didn't say that you illiterate fucking nigger. The pre-Suez connection is wider than the Panama isthmus and you don't walk around calling Africa and Asia the same continent. Connection is not the deciding factor. A combination of plate tectonics and surface geography is.
>>58377582
Bro, but what "classifies" your race it's not your ancestry, it's your phenotype characteristics.
If a guy has clearly white features, starting with the skin color, but has some non-white people in his family, he is white no matter what.
What you are saying is just as same as the retarded thing that existed in USA called as "one drop rule" that has no logic at all.
>>58379238
>scientificly false
this is just meme talk
Talking about scientific consensus on the issue is absurd. This is a question about etomology.
>>58379182
>Air traffic control is conducted in English. Guess what... that doesn't mean pilots only speak English.
I don't understand what point you're trying to make.
I am saying it's entirely subjective and no model is more correct than the other, although one might be more widespread. This levle of ethnocentrism is simply astounding.
>>58379317
Historically, countries with another countries military base in them would be considered vassals I think
>>58379168
Haiti:
> declared 1804
> recognized 1825
US:
> declared 1776
> recognized 1783
>>58379424
Yes, that's them, congratulations. Is Arabia considered a continent, is India considered a continent? How about the Caribbiaen?
how the hell does this thread have so many replies
>>58379559
Stop using the word subjective incorrectly.
And stop being such a triggered nigger you Somalian faggot.
>>58379472
No one forces them to do anything. They do it for freedom.
>>58379571
That is plain wrong.
>>58379439
Omfg. The americas were named after Amerigo Vespucci, who came here at the time of Columbus voyages. Fucking dumbass. The continent was not named after your country, understand that freaking illiterate.
>>58379551
That's a debatable definition of race there friend.
One that is only really held by people are not actually white
>>58379639
> completely and totally ignoring the fact that continent models are based on plates AND surface geography
Go find a quiet spot in the woods to hang yourself.
>>58379610
reeeeee i was lied to
I remember my high school geography teacher telling us that Haiti came first
>>58379463
Don't get angry, autist
Here's the thing. In America, and other English speaking nations, we say north and South America, so American only applies to Unitedstations, so when speaking English, American is totally valid.
In your barbarian language you may say the Americas, so every north or South American is just an American, and here's the kicker, in those languages, Americans are not called Americans, but unitedstations.
So when an English speaker calls us an American, he is not wrong, when a Spanish speaker says Unitedstation, he is not wrong.
The argument is stupid.
>>58379666
I am not using it incorrectly, and I am not triggered. I am noting that you're running out of anything sensible to say though.
>>58379676
Can you say another other times when tens of thousands of soldiers were stationed in other countries and had no effect on the political situation?
Vassal is a strong word, but you have to acknowledge having an American army stationed in your country is going to turn politics in favor of that base, especially in the surrounding area.
>>58379687
Amerigo saw the land and said,"this land is going to be populated by the greatest people ever. They will call themselves Americans. I didn't invent that word. God spoke it to me to tell me about his greatest nation."
Learn history, faggot.
>>58379755
You are using it incorrectly. Period.
Something based on scientific fact is not subjective. Your preference in terminology is subjective. The fact that you can't separate those ideas in your head is proof positive of how uneducated and unintelligent you are.
continental lines are almost as arbitrary as political borders. In the end, it's up to the culture you belong to whether or not the Americas are a single continent or not
>>58379712
>continent models are based on plates and surface geography
XDDDDDDD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent#History_of_the_concept
>not calling the continent with Australia "Oceania"
>>58379842
So by your definition Siberia is part of North America and that's what you'd tell people if they asked you.
No. Just kill yourself already you proxyfag douchestain.
>>58379825
>Talking about scientific consensus on the issue is absurd. This is a question about etomology.
>>58379831
This
>>58379687
Haha why are you getting mad friend?
America became the name of the continents because a German mapmaker put his name down accidentally. When he reprinted it, he took America off of it, but it was already sticking.
In any case however, the first country to be free of a colonial power was the United States of America.
We chose that name,and took to calling ourselves Americans when your ancestors were chewing coca leaves in loincloths.
Since your country got its independence and its own name later, you do not get to call dibs on a name that has already been chosen to describe the people of another country.
>>58379890
No, stop this absurd strawmanning.
>>58379816
Man, please stop embarrasing yourself. Amerigo Vespucci arrived first in what we know today as Brazil, not the US, fucking monkey, You should open a book from time to time.
>>58379695
Kek so now I turned from white to black and I wasn't warned of it?
>>58379831
>>58379941
Continental lines are not even remotely close to as arbitrary as political lines. And historically, political lines have often been made along natural features like rivers, mountains, sea, etc.
>>58379977
You're openly contradicting yourself. It's that simple.
>>58380099
I am not.
>>58380041
Not at all, your pry a mestizo or whatever the equivalent is in Portuguese.
Bet the vikings had a much better name for. Go excavate some more ships, see if you can find your real name.
>>58380152
Yes you are.
>>58379967
The amricas were sipposed to be called Columba as they were "discovered" by columbus (there are norse settlements in eastern canada that pre-date columbus ). Instead they were named after amerigo as he used to write in a more explicit manner than columbus, so his voyage writings resonated more in Eurpoe than those written by columbus.
>>58380207
The Vikings found where modern day Canada is. They would not have a sweet name for Columbia.
>>58380255
It should be very easy to point out instead of just throwing accusations.
>everyone is mad at each other ITT
>>58380166
Oh noice, now my italian family is just an ilusion as well as my skin color and my blonde hair.
Fuck, I don't even know why Im still debating with an american.
>>58378909
you're not European.
>>58380314
The guy who named America apparently landed in Brazil so you shouldn't be so choosy.
>>58380280
I like how you didn't comment at all on the other half of my post.
That doesn't mean shit when it comes to determining what to call Americans and people from other parts of the continents.
>>58380334
You can't seem to decide whether geography, geology, both, or neither is how continents are divided. You're implicitly indicated that connections matter, then later that they don't. You've done the same with plates.
>>58380342
Not much of debate man, I'm still a little drunk from last night, just shitposting on a Rhodesian cave-painting forum.
But yeah, having indigenous blood in you means that you're not white. Do you consider albino Africans to be white because that have fair skin and blond hair?
>>58379025
>"those darn Americans, thinking we're all the same!"
>"why don't I assume they all think literally the same thing!"
>>58380376
I thought he landed on some Caribbean islands
>>58379025
>>58380624
why do people do this all the time, bro? complain about americans generalizing them while at the same time generalizing nice americans? ;_;
>>58380255
Stop acting like a six year old goddamn.
>>58380920
That was Columbus
>>58380624
>>58380923
I also hate generalizations, but I've been called taco eater at least 3 times today, which makes me wonder if all americans think the same. Probably most people know we don't eat tacos here, so I apologize for generalizing guys.
>>58380533
African albinos don't have white features, you can see it by their faces. They are just a black painted as white.
Now the people with little indigenous ancestry that has pale skin in the other hand... you can see that they are clearly white.
It's not like you are passing by the street, see a white guy that has some non-white ancestry, and think: Hey! That's just a random brown guy".
Like, you don't even know his ancestry and just by looking his face and skin you would easily think: "Yeah, that's some random white guy"
Here in Brazil there are plenty of whites with some non-white ancestry that could EASILY pass in USA or Europe as a guy with full european ancestry.
Here's a map of the continents for you all.
Note that the area circled is America.
>>58381263
I disagree. Most the time you see a white person with some native blood you can tell. It's by no means a big difference, but it's still a difference.
It's usually in the eyes.
Also, these albinos are from India, do you consider them white?
>>58380531
My point has always been that it is not limited to these two areas. That's why no model is the scientificly correct one. The different continents appeared as being thought of as continents at vastly seperate times with changing criteria, it shouldn't be that hard of a concept to grasp in all honesty. If Eurasia was discovered, it wouldn't be considered two continents like it is today, this is not on the back of science.
>implicitly indicated
I knew it would come to something like this. He tried to claim that NA and SA being on separate plates made them two continents, I pointed out why this was flawed logic.
>>58381338
>mfw he only sees one america in that map
>>58381174
If you asked an average America, they would pry say Colombians eat tacos. I mean, it's a pretty damn popular food in the Southwest, and people tend to think as Latin America as a lot more homogeneous than it is here.
>>58372490
because we are the strongest nation on the planet and can do whatever the fuck we want to do you big cuck
lol
>>58381374
damn it, forgot the picture.
i don't get it. what's wrong with tacos? they're delicious. like the hispanic burger but without the freedom
>>58381174
>three times
Yeesh. I'm sorry for your loss.
>>58381174
i-it's okay ;_;
>>58374760
It is not you goddamned spic. North America is a continent, South America is a continent, they are separate continents. maybe we should war you over it?
>>58381649
>>58381486
ahahha.Yeah I know. Thanks for your condolences. Just know that if you ever come down here you'd be hard pressed to find a taqueria. I mean, they do exist but we're not mexico or texas by any means.
>>58381374
Eh, there's literally almost no difference when the ancestry of other race is in a little percentage... The dominant race in a person's genetic will show up in it's person phenotype and that's what will define his race ethnicity. It will never exist a white-brown, a white-yellow, a white-black or yellow-black.
And what do you mean by eyes? Like the eyes color? I hope you aren't talking about it.
>Also, these albinos are from India, do you consider them white?
Did you even read my first paragraph...
>>58381787
What would you say is kinda the "national" food of Colombia?
>>58381769
Pls do. We definitely need some freedom over here.
>>58375010
Sure thing, Paco. Everything below Mexico is so irelevant most people don't even know that there are "countries" lmao
>>58376581
>And that's enough to consider them 2 different continents?
They are connected by the isthmus of panama, Africa and Asia are connected by the isthmus of Suez and they are separate continents, so following that precedent, North America and South America are separate continents.
>>58381944
This is what our coffee growers usually eat. A full platter of beans with avocado, ground meat, rice, chicharron (a.k.a pork belly), plantains. It is not spicy (we´re not used to spicy foods) That's like 3000 calories in one sitting.
>>58382042
>Lithuania
>relevant
>>58382139
more relevant than a country named after the fucking equator
>>58382042
Dude, you're lucky to even exist. GTFO
>>58382127
that looks really nice desu
>>58382127
Bandeja paisa is fucking delicious mate
>>58382207
says the country named after a continent.
Mate we both dont have super original names
>>58381937
Not really in eye color, though you will see darker shades in people with native ancestry. I meant more of how the eyes are set.
Piss poor explanation but maybe you can get what I'm going for.
People can't see phenotype. and while your right, if there is only a small bit of native ancestry you will look MOSTLY white, but there are gonna be differences that will make you stand out.
>>58382127
Fuck that looks tasty.
That's another thing, if i had to guess, I would've said Colombians ate a lot of spicy food.
>>58382127
Do I call you bean-eater then? I want my shitty meme banter to be accurate.
>>58382476
Sometimes we put hot sauce in empanadas and other street foods. Other than that colombians are pussies regarding spicy foods.
>>58382127
>>58382604
>tfw colombians and not mexicans were the beaners all along
>>58382476
There are a lots of colombian restaurants in america. Seek one and try it. It was in america that i first ate that dish
>>58382604
Arepa or empanada eater would be better. However you gotta be careful down here cuz if you tell a girl that you wanna eat her arepa,it means you wanna eat her pussy
>>58382704
>Sometimes we put hot sauce in empanadas and other street foods
I thought those were pastries, or is that only the mexicans version? Someone gave me a pineapple one once that tasted very good.
>>58373772
If america lost to riceniggers and sandniggers, and you lost to america.
That in turn makes you more of a cuck than we are
>>58382705
I'd say mexicans still eat way more beans haha. Hell, they even eat them in different presentations (whole, refried, soup, etc....)
>>58382778
so in other words no Colombian on 4chan is an arepa-eater
>>58382882
Maybe not. Probable they're chorizo (dick) eaters
>>58382808
Empanadas are savory. I've never seen a sweet empanada. Sound interesting though. Normally we fill them with shredded meat, egg, rice, sometimes cheese and chicken, mushrooms and chicken, etc...
>>58383226
It looked like this. That does sound tasty though.
>>58383398
Yeah that one looks oven baked. We have these, which are fried and made from corn rather than pastry dough.
>>58383753
A-are they dipped in those nice salsas?
>>58383801
Nope, we usually add salsa or guacamole to the filling with a spoon to avoid gross double dippers.
>>58372490
>The United States of a part of North America
>>58383986
>Ottoman Empire II
