>euros will defend this
What nothing didn't he do?
>>58275558
>>58275398
That's German law. They're going to change it because of this case
>>58275605
>>58275623
And so what is it that he is in trouble for then?!
I won't. But anything that makes that bitch Merkel lose support is a necessary evil.
>>58275731
A poem about Erdogan
>>58275605
>>58275623
Did he insult Turkishness or something?
>>58275731
>German comedian Jan Boehmermann could face jail time for reading a satirical, obscene poem on German TV that criticized Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
Being too progressive.
>>58275731
>>58275832
Here is that poem:
https://vimeo.com/162455052
>Sod-dumb, cowardly and hesitant/ Is Erdogan the President/ His boner smells like Döner/ Even a pig's fart smells finer/ He's the man who punches girls/ while wearing a bloody rubber mask/ Things he loves the most/ is shagging goats/ and oppressing minorities/ Kicking Kurds, beating up Christians/ while watching child porn/ And in the evening instead of a nap/ Fellatio with a hundred sheep/ Erdogan is all things considered/ a President with a tiny wang.
Every Turk can be heard whispering:/ This dumb pig has got shrivel-balls/ From Ankara to Istanbul/ Everyone knows this man is gay/ perverted and zoophil/ Recep Fritzl Priklopil/ His head as empty as his balls/ the star guest on every gang-bang party/ until his tiny wang starts to burn while having a piss/ That's Reccep Erdogan
>>58275398
Merkel has to somehow suck Erdogan's dick for holding the immigrand hordes in refugee (ahem prison ahem) camps away from eurocucks.
>>58275398
he dindu nuffin
>>58275623
There were plans to change it before the case came up, I think it's meant to come in place in 2017/2018.
The fact that they're going through the prosecution for a fucking law they're going to get rid of is ridiculous. Shows much power Turks have over Merkel, pathetic.
>>58275835
>Jan Boehmermann
Cheers, Holmes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZyNS4rMmh8
>Obviously lettuce, but why 4chan think cabbage?
lol fucking nazis
>>58276041
Public prosecutor and judiciary should be independent from politicians
The law is the law
I don't think he'll be sentenced
>>58275765
This.
Also he is a fucking leftist cunt.
>>58275398
kek, so these are the western democratic values
>>58275398
Yes I do. He's part of the political correctness police that's running rampant in this country, and is probably supportive of "hate-speech" laws as well (as long as it doesn't target the wrong people), himself hiding behind the shield of "satire", which apparently gives him permission to just hurl insults at specific individuals. I'd like to see someone do what he did, but instead direct it at muslims or refugees in general, see how many years that person will spent in prison.
The fact that people argue with freedom of speech in his case, when just a couple of weeks ago some drunk guy got a 7 month jail sentence because he said that Hitler is his idol is absolutely pathetic.
Nevermind that at worst, he'll get a slight slap on the wrist.
>>58276309
He can have what ever fokken political views. no? That's not the point.
If your government initiates an investigation on him, solely at the behest of a foreign government because he miffed them, that is truly sad.
But I suppose freedom of speech has been dead in Europe for a long time. Take holocaust denial, or even having a different opinion than the "official" version. . .
>>58275911
This triggers turks
>>58276549
>at muslims or refugees in general, see how many years that person
(I think you mean "prison")
Are you fokken serious? ? ?
You get thrown in jail just for insulting people? Or for hurting their feelings?
I really can't understand.
Even in my country, libel is a crime. However, I do not have to shield my opinion just because it may offend someone.
>>58276549
Well don't you have actual different laws regarding Hitler or something?
For instance if he said Mussolini instead of Hitler would he still be jailed?
>>58276571
Of course it is sad.
Still, if it hurts the right people and weakens Merkel even further it feels a bit better.
>>58276193
Has he broken any German law?
Is there a law not to be offensive to foreign heads of state, etc?
In Japan, we have a silly law: it is illegal to deface the flag of a foreign country. Otherwise, we can say anything we want.
>>58276571
It's a good thing that it's finally hitting the right people then.
>He can have what ever fokken political views. no?
Not when his political views are extremely anti free speech, and he'd be first in line to prosecute people who did the same thing he did, but directed it at a general group of people.
>that is truly sad
I'm past being sad for this country, it's like some kind of twisted, bizarro world comedy where you can only stay sane by laughing at the sheer ridicule of it.
>>58276770
>You get thrown in jail just for insulting people? Or for hurting their feelings?
When it's the wrong (or right) people you're speaking against, you can be damn sure.
>>58276847
The laws in this country mean jack shit anyway. Our judical system is a joke, some Turks who were racing in the streets and killed a woman on a bike got off on probation.
>>58277030
>Is there a law not to be offensive to foreign heads of state
Yes, literally.
>>58276549
>>58276770
Sorry, your English was very correct. My bad.
[drinkydrinky]
>>58277096
>Not when his political views are extremely anti free speech. . .
So are you saying he's some kind of bigot?
Sorry I don't know anything about this guy or German politics, but this guy reading an offensive poem against Ero-Gan seems the las person I would suspect of wanting to prosecute people for merely expressing their views?
>When it's the wrong (or right) people you're speaking against, you can be damn sure.
If you know, I would be very gracious to know what the law is there. I can't believe a person should have criminal accountability just because someone got their feelings hurt. (In my country, just say sorry (for hurting your feelings, not for what I said) and it's over.)
>Yes, literally.
Probably from the occupation times; same as us. I'm glad our law is only for flags.
>>58275558
Turkish president Erdogan got offended by a song of him about the freedom of press in turkey.
then the comedian, Böhmermann responded with a "Poem" directed at Erdogan were he called him a Goatfucker.
He was probably thinking he lives in a free country. Now Merkel is supporting Erdogan because the fucker keeps the refugees at bay.
>>58276571
This. The fucker is a stupid leftie, but even if i dislike him, he has the fucking right to say whatever he wants.
Fucking Merkel gets worse every week.
>>58280187
I grew up in America, with American education, so the whole freedom of speech thing is very sacred to me. It really blows me away that you Euros are so content that a person can be criminalized just for their opinion.
America, and via proxy we too in Japan, learnt the ideal of free speech from the great European minds. . . but it doesn't exist anymore in Europe? ? ? Fokken scheist!
>>58280623
Where are we content Tojo? Unsquint your shit and read again.
>>58275398
>insulting the holy emperor Erdogan
Heretic had it coming
>>58280623
Fun fact: 80% of the citizens are against his prosecution. And even politicans in Merkels party.
But its not like that would matter.
"""Democracy""
>>58280772
Merkel is the one who signed your residence papers mehmet, better get to licking her asshole now instead of turdogan's
>>58281027
>insulting the holy prophet of the holy emperor
Next Merkel will come for you Unbeliever!
>>58275911
>Sod-dumb, cowardly and hesitant/ Is Erdogan the President/ His boner smells like Döner/ Even a pig's fart smells finer/ He's the man who punches girls/ while wearing a bloody rubber mask/ Things he loves the most/ is shagging goats/ and oppressing minorities/ Kicking Kurds, beating up Christians/ while watching child porn/ And in the evening instead of a nap/ Fellatio with a hundred sheep/ Erdogan is all things considered/ a President with a tiny wang.
>>58280077
Calling someone a goatfucker isn't freedom of speech (BTW Erdogan's a goatfucker)
>>58280711
Sorry, Guenter.
By "content," I mean accepting the situation. That's all. Pardon for bad English (?)
But at the same time, this is not a new thing, no? Lots of people have been sent to prison in Europe for having a different opinion (about the Jews) for several tens of years now. I think this is acceptable fact. And everyone was just as "content" to see that then. . .
I'm not trying to defend perverts. But I don't think it's the place of the State to tell a man what he can or cannot say. That's all.
>>58281706
Why no European can stand up for Europe?!
If this happen in my country, every one will be angry and stand up. The government will certainly know we are unhappy. (Maybe we have the better democracy after all? ? ?~)
>>58275398
Absolutely absurd. This is horrible to read.
>turkposting incoming
>>58275765
>free speech is a right!
>but not if I don't like it in this circumstance!
>>58275911
Honestly that's a theoretically well-designed poem.
>>58276853
>>58277096
>>58280772
>Free speech is good
>but not when I don't like it
>>58275398
He's a leftist cuck anyway.
>>58281649
It literally is t*rkroach.
>>58283588
>I am okay with restricting free speech if it hurts the political view I don't like
>>58275398
Seriously, I am so sick of seeing this faggot everywhere
He is a mediocore comedian who used the opportunity to get some fame and media coverage
>>58283701
>television comedian
>using the opportunity to get publicity
WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED?!??!?
Him being a faggot doesn't mean prosecuting him at the behest of Sultan Turkroach is okay.
Fucking kek
Germany is truly fucked.
This cannot be real (?)
>>58283778
this whole affair just shouldn't recieve any media coverage.
>>58281649
Yes it is.
>>58280077
When will the german people get enough of her shit and elect someone who doesn't bend to dictators like erdogan and willingly ruins her own country?
Meanwhile in the Netherlands...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36104691
Dutch response
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-netherlands-to-abandon-law-against-insulting-foreign-heads-of-state-comedian-jan-bohmermann-a6996806.html
>>58283778
He's not just a television comedian though, he works for the state-run television.
>>58283293
aren't recent policemen suicides swept under rug though?
>>58283889
>yes it is
You might be right, but that doesn't change the fact that the """""" comedian"""""" misuses the freedom of speech.
>>58283866
This is how it begins...
>>58284042
You can't misuse freedom of speech, it's either there or it isn't.
The only thing that should be punishable is threats.
All he proves with this is that he's a very fickle small man that can't take critisism, not even jokingly from a comedian.
It's fucking laughable that the germans are actually bending over for erdogan, it's sad and pathetic.
>>58284042
>misuses the freedom of speech
>>58283977
No idea what you're talking about.
Please inform me.
>>58284042
threatening someones can be considered "misuse" of freedom of speech (internet doesnt count).
hurting master erdoroach's feelings is NOT a misuse of freedom of fucking speech
>>58284354
I kind of envy you guys in that regard.
>>58284260
This! ! !
Threats or "shouting fire in a crowded theater."
Otherwise, as long as no harm is done to the public and there is no libel, why should anyone give a fuck? ? ?
>>58284042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ9MpUkYygo
Does this trigger you as well?
>>58284451
We are fond of that one.
>>58277580
>CHAPTER FOURTEEN
>LIBEL AND SLANDER
>Section 185
>Insult
>An insult shall be punished with imprisonment not exceeding one year or a fine and, if the insult is committed by means of an assault, with imprisonment not exceeding two years or a fine.
>Section 186
>Defamation
>Whosoever asserts or disseminates a fact related to another person which may defame him or negatively affect public opinion about him, shall, unless this fact can be proven to be true, be liable to imprisonment not exceeding one year or a fine and, if the offence was committed publicly or through the dissemination of written materials (section 11(3)), to imprisonment not exceeding two years or a fine.
>Section 187
>Intentional defamation
>Whosoever intentionally and knowingly asserts or disseminates an untrue fact related to another person, which may defame him or negatively affect public opinion about him or endanger his creditworthiness shall be liable to imprisonment not exceeding two years or a fine, and, if the act was committed publicly, in a meeting or through dissemination of written materials (section 11(3)) to imprisonment not exceeding five years or a fine.
>Section 103
>Defamation of organs and representatives of foreign states
>(1) Whosoever insults a foreign head of state, or, with respect to his position, a member of a foreign government who is in Germany in his official capacity, or a head of a foreign diplomatic mission who is accredited in the Federal territory shall be liable to imprisonment not exceeding three years or a fine, in case of a slanderous insult to imprisonment from three months to five years.
>(2) If the offence was committed publicly, in a meeting or through the dissemination of written materials (section 11(3)) Section 200 shall apply. An application for publication of the conviction may also be filed by the prosecution service.
>>58281649
Yes it is you retard.
Sackdoof, feige und verklemmt
Ist Erdogan, der Präsident...
>>58284721
please share source; i am very interested in this
is this from civil code? and all translated into English?
Please Share Source! ! !
Yes because it means more votes for the AfD.
>>58275398
>>58275835
>yuropoors can't criticize thier government
top cuck!
>>58284982
here you go baka senpai
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_stgb.html#p1694
it's the translated german law on the official site from the gov.
Germany is literally 'JUST': The Country
>>58285008
When is the next election?
Does AfD have any chance?
I saw est wieder da the other day, and a AfD politician seemed to agree with "hitler", are they taken seriously?
>>58285050
Thanks, Aniki.
(But we are brothers. Please don't talk mean -- call me baka.)
>>58285165
Are you really japanese?
Your english seems to good.
>>58285132
> When is the next election?
Federal elections? autumn 2017
> Does AfD have any chance?
yes
Here are weekly polls: http://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/insa.htm
> I saw est wieder da the other day, and a AfD politician seemed to agree with "hitler", are they taken seriously?
I don't know what you mean exactly.
>>58285228
I've lived lots of places and only came to Japan when I was in my 20s.
>>58285395
Er ist wieder da, a mockumentary/movie about Hitler coming to life in the modern world, where they interview people that don't know that it's a joke.
The politician interviews might have been staged though, I don't really know that much about german politics.
>>58285546
worth watching it? i don't know if I should
>>58285611
I laughed out loud several times, for sure worth watching I think, it isn't as political as you would think, it lets you make your own opinion instead of forcing it on you.
>>58285546
I only read the book and it didn't mention the AfD at all. It's all fiction btw.
>>58285816
The film is quite different from the movie, a lot of the on the street stuff is with strangers, but a lot of it is staged too, it's kind of like Borat.
>>58285867
The film is quite different from the book*
>>58275398
eurocuks will either suck erdogan's cock or he will keep sending proffesional rapists after their mothers :^)
>>58286109
Well mehme't my son
>>58275398
He won't get punished according to EU laws. Most people don't have a clue how the hierarchy of laws work in EU countries. If Böhmnermann is found guilty in a German court he can appeal to the European Court of Human Rights and there is no chance in hell it will get past article 10.
Merkel knows this and the process is an attempt to both satisfy Erdogan. She has made a deal with him about the refugeesituations and she wants him to do his part. But there is no legal way for Erdogan to triumph in this case.
>>58285816
it has NPD or someone nazi like that in it, the movie was changed since author was scared how people liked Hitler and he even added pegida to it
>>58286109
Or eurocucks take the people back with the navies. Also Turkey should be isolated and sanctioned for 20 years.
>>58281649
>>Calling someone a goatfucker isn't freedom of speech
yes it is
Obama is a goatfucker, but he is the catcher. He preps his little boipucci for the goat every night and has his sheboon wife apply the KY jelly to his boipucci before his sheboon wife mounts Muhammad The Goat(piss be upon him) onto Obama while he squeals like a little girl.
this is freedom of speech you repressed roachfuck
>>58286313
lel. erdogan should and erdogan must send each and every syrian to your smelly continent. he is literally doing god's work. it's the language those euro-sissies understand. that's why i will vote for him in next election.
Actually he even stated himself that what he was going to say is considered a crime. So charging him is not unlawful per se.
But what matters is the position our government is taking. Even though what he said was just a huge insult, our government once again shows what spineless opportunists they really are.
Danke Merkel
>>58286438
>Implying that it makes a difference if you vote or not in Turkey
ayy lmao, Erdogan is Putin 2.0, you have no democracy.
>>58286483
>the government should arbitrarily intervene in the rule of law even though someone has obviously committed a crime
What has this to do with Merkel at all?
He has committed a crime, so let the judges decide the punishment. That's how our legal system works.
>>58286655
Yes I'm totally fine with giving him his deserved punishment. (He is pretty much the biggest cuck on our television)
But it remains a statement. And he knew how to get Merkel into that tricky situation.
And in my opinion she fucked up once again.
>>58286655
Digging up outdated laws because of political pressure isn't normal.
There's tons of weird antiquated laws in most countries, but it's extremely rare that they're ever used.
Merkel just seems weak for giving in to the pressure.
>>58286833
This and Merkel is one of the most important politicians in Europe. It makes all of Europe seem weak
>>58286957
Very few europeans see europe as one entity, so it's not really fair to say we are though.
EU maybe, but not europe.
>>58286833
It would be like giving into pressure from muslim groups here and charging someone with blasphemy laws. We still have some old ones but they haven't been successfully used in probably 80 or more years.
It's really pathetic they'll let a cockroach harass a German citizen for no good reason. He should try suing the government once things settle down.
>>58275398
Everyone in this thread is a fucking retard.
1. This law is from a time where insulting another country's head of state was enough cause to declare war. Look at how the Franco-Prussian war was started: the media mistranslated a word and the French got so insulted that they went out on the streets and demanded war against the Prussians. People against the war were branded traitors and called Prussian spies.
2. Before a person can be prosecuted for insulting a head of state the German government needs to give permission. Saying no would mean Merkel interferes in the area that is outside of hers. She is the executive branch and this law is the judicial branch. Allowing prosecution means that she does what Erdogan wants (which he is in his full right to demand because of Germany's laws) and so long as Böhmermann and his lawyers keep fighting against the verdict it will end up at the German supreme court which will declare the war unconstitutional because of free speech.
>some kebab sultan is acting high and mighty and above the law
>hurr lets make politically charged decisions above the law to counter him
Merkel did the right thing for once. Let the courts deal with it, they'll rule him free and revoke that stupid ancient law while they're at it, and the cockroach will explode in anger.
>>58287181
You might think that but muslims don't. They see this and the pope kissing the feet of muslims and they think all Europeaners and catholics are weak
>>58287594
But catholics really are weak. Especially the current pope is all about turning the other cheek and helping the oppressed and gays and other degenerates.
>>58287951
Turning the other cheek and helping the less fortunate is what christianity is all about though.
I think it's good that the pope can have some modern views on things.
>>58288171
Turn the other cheek didn't apply to those who want to kill you
>>58287360
>cockroach will explode in anger.
Probably literary and in your country
There has been a developing problem about free speech actually being free, or more to the point not being actually free in Germany. One excursion, the Liberalizing excursion has gone on since times relevant to WWII (I guess before that there was censorship as a policy.)
Germany has not been able to say "ok go ahead and just talk" so far yet, it seems.
pff whatever dudeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
why would i defend germany, another country that has nothing to do with me?
>>58285611
I watched it despite not speaking any German. I thought it was hilarious, I just wish I knew what was going on!
>>58286438
Like I said people should be taken back. The navies would demonstrate power so that Turkey doesn't do funny stuff like with the Russian airplane.
>>58284549
I don't get triggered by erduvan.
>>58275911
>Recep Fritzl Priklopil
AYYYYYYYYYYYY LMAO
