What language is the most primitive one? Most people would say English is, but maybe you think otherwise. What methods are the most efficacious in a language learning process? I'm of the opinion that excessive reading on a daily basis is at the very least one of them. How long did it take you to become fluent? What is/are the language/languages that you're learning at the moment? Discuss!
P.S. Please don't point out my bad English because I know it myself.
Tbqh we may aswell start learning arabic
I'm currently learning Russian by myself. My girlfriend's parents grew up in communist Poland, so they're both fluent in it - so I can ask them for help every so often. Progress is extremely slow due to college though.
There's only one language that I say I've gained fluency in and that would be Irish. I done that by going to Gealtach every summer from 11 - 17, and just having an interest in languages. I'll agree with op and say English is primitive since it lacks the numerous ways to express yourself that Irish has.
>>58262429
>Ukraine in charge of informative discussions
>>58262597
Sorry to say, but Irish is also primitive. Shit just happens, dude.
>>58262833
How? Like actually what makes it primitive?
>>58262886
The very name of it seems to be primitive.
>>58262924
Enjoy your thread. Too stupid for me.
>>58263006
Enjoy my cock. I'm too generous for you.
>>58262886
Probably lack of sources (literature, science, news...) comparing to the big six (English, Russian, Spanish, French, Arabic, Chinese).
>>58263056
We do have our TV stations here, short film industry. All through Irish. There's some really good books written through Irish also. I even think Iceland has a lower number of Icelandic speakers when compared to Irish speakers. The reason being why there's no Irish in science and around the world now is that there's no reason for anyone to learn it. You've no reason, neither does that dick from Ukraine.
>>58263044
Don't let a stray bullet hit you.
>>58262429
>muh language has 50 noun cases, verbal moods, tenses, and persons
ok
>>58262886
When I hear Irish I think fruity neanderthals.
>>58263244
I'd love to learn gaelic. But tfw idk what books to read.
Learn Russian. All cute girls made their chose.
>>58263328
Duolingo, nualeargais.ie, focloir.ie.
"Dánta i nGaeilge" Google that
Tusa tube
I've seen a few things on T*mblr about Irish also.
>>58263578
What the heck are you still doing here?
>>58263456
Russian girls speak green card and money.
>>58263663
It turned out there's actually people who'll have a discussion. Possibly lack the shrapnel you have in your head.
>>58263328
What's the point? Irish is seen as a nerd language in Ireland. People will cringe if you try to speak it in public.
Irish sluts would rather hear you speak in a Russian accent.
>>58263690
Thank you, Migel, for your interesting oppinion.
>>58263769
No, it's not. There's places around Dublin that'll only do custom through Irish. There's Irish Societies in most colleges that have a huge following and there's some qt farmers' daughters in the Gaeltacht.
>What language is the most primitive one?
English is more excessively simplified rather than primitive. I like to see a primitive language as inefficient and bad at expressing complex situations we face in daily lives. Compared to Turkish and German, English might be counted as primitive. But there is definitely much more primitive languages than that. I dunno, Indonesian or some shit. If I'm not wrong, they say sth like "table table" to express the plural form of "table".
>What methods are the most efficacious in a language learning process?
Reading, watching and trying to speak (alone is also ok) in that language. You have to do a lot of repeating in many ways possible.
>How long did it take you to become fluent?
The only language I have become fluent is English and it has taken me roughly 8 years (Learned it in school, I'm lucky I was in a private school. State schools don't teach shit in Turkey). Along with Turkish, German is my native language too thanks to my German mother. Knowing a Germanic language made it much easier.
>What are the languages that you're learning at the moment?
I am currently learning Russian but do not want to improve it that much, B1/B2 level should be enough.
Weirdly, I want to learn Esperanto cuz I have an interest towards constructed languages. I'm even constructing my own, and complex cases can be efficiently expressed by it. It's all about keeping the balance between agglutination and synthesis.
I also want to learn French or Japanese or Spanish up to B2 level after Russian.
>>58263754
>there's
>people
Is there a difference between gealic and Irish?
Gealic is spoken in the scottish isles right?
Learning Irish would be cool, so i can understand moonboy better and sing folk songs
Éire og
English is really simple language
>>58263926
There are* I've been raised in a country with different grammar rules.
>>58263951
You are right indeedy.
>>58264032
But do Irish and Geallic sound alike? Can a Scott and an Irishmen understand each other
For they're both Celtic languages
>>58262513
Why haven't you already ?
Just ride a bus
>>58262429
I'm learning russian now, still in the very basic level.
>>58264135
To only a certain extent. They sound similar, the word order is the same, and there's a few words that are the same. Think of the difference between Polish and other slavic languages.
Is it even possible to learn Chinese in a single lifetime?
>>58263910
>t*rks in charge of objective comparisons
if you think about it, Hebrew is pretty primitive on the count that it got resurrected after ~two thousand years
of course it was modified to fit the 20th century but still, a Hebrew speaker can read pre Roman texts with a pretty solid understanding of the written
anyways any Deutsch learners in the thread?
>>58262429
Not sure about primitive but Spanish is objectively the easiest language in the world.
>>58265415
每天学好几个小时以上的话,我觉得就能够学好中文。
虽然我不建议开始学习这个语言。花很多时间和努力。
>>58265651
The tragedy is once you master Spanish you realize only sub 80 IQ people speak it.
>>58265810
an average Spaniard scores something around 99
>>58265662
Well apart from Chinese once you're fluent in English there's not a lot of useful languages so...
I'm looking to learn Magyar are there any resources online that don't require to pay any shekels to support their jewism?
>>58266049
France explain this, why is it du only in the second sentence?
>>58266186
>'hui
>>58266186
because you can't count the amount of wind.
As someone who is interested in learning another language, but never got around to it, I have a question.
Is it alright to learn by comparing the language you are learning to your own? For example, if I tried to remember a character by how it looks similar to an English character which makes a similar sound. Would it be best to try and learn the language as though I didn't know English (within reason of course)? I just feel like a dependency on English would make it harder to become fluent in the desired language in the long run.
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, I'm new to /int/, but I really want to know this.
>>58266186
Man... I know it's correct but I can't tell you why, it happens so often in French. My guess is it has something to do with the negation and/or how it sounds.
J'ai du pain, je n'ai pas DE pain.
J'ai de l'eau, je n'ai pas d'eau.
>>58266764
Study any way you find comfortable. I learned English by watching subbed anime.
>>58266764
>Is it alright to learn by comparing the language you are learning to your own?
Do whatever helps make it stick and as you practice it'll become more natural until you're not relying on comparisons anymore.
>>58267025
Thanks mate, I appreciate it - This was probably the main worry I had.
I'm learning Persian-Farsi through Memrise.
سلام
>>58267078
>>58267097
Sorry, I replied before your post appeared.
Thanks to you too - perhaps you'll sleep well tonight knowing some random kiwi is grateful to you.
>>58264022
>says it's *a* simple language
>writes badly in it
Your "advanced" slavic language declines nouns for all sorts of things yet you can't handle the way English nouns decline for being definite or not.
Congratulations on failing at a 'simple' language.
>>58267234
It is simple. I was fluent in English by age of 12. The fact i don't perfectly use grammar is irrelevant. I can survive in anglo country and have conversations in English about p much everything
>>58267139
I wish there was more Dari dialect rather than Iranian Farsi resources online. It's so much better.
>>58267391
>it's simple because I ignore the hard parts and speak like a retard
masterful logic
>>58267483
How much less primitive is the Spanish language compared to English?
>>58267483
>English grammar
>hard
Its all about experience and knowing 284749 exceptions. All in all English is one of the easiest languages to learn. I dont get why are you butthurt about it
>>58267597
At least they have proper verb conjugation.
>>58267597
I object to the notion of "primitive" meaning analytic languages (for example mandarin) and "advanced" meaning synthetic languages like slavic languages.
the devil is in the details, the complexities of English lie in the choice of words and register.
for example, a language like Italian is more complicated than English, but simpler in terms of word choice, everything in italy is "bello", whereas in English it's "nice" "fine" "pretty" "good-looking" "beautiful", "great" depending on the thing being talked abou.t
>>58267827
>whereas in English it's "nice" "fine" "pretty" "good-looking" "beautiful", "great"
Are you implying that only English has its synonyms?
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What is going to happen? What? Come to think of it that in no time my thread will be archived! No, please. LET IT NOT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>58271403
can you post autistic boy picture ?
i've deleted it but need it again
Ok, ok. English is very rich. And all slavs are primitive.Fucking subhumans.
After reading about persian history I kinda wanna learn farsi but it's intimidating as fuck
>>58267674
He's rightfully butthurt about you claiming it's easy and failing to make proper use of it.
That's like saying you fully grasp quantum physics and that it's easy but when enquired about it all you have to say is "everything is connected breh! Strings breh!" and refuse to elaborate any further than that.
tl;dr you're literally on mount stupid right now.
>>58271646
>confusing history with reality
>>58271693
I mean they have this immensely rich culture that it would be interesting to delve into
>>58262429
>What language is the most primitive one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toki_Pona
Anyone know a Duolingo - style way to learn Latin? I'm a lazy pile of shit and don't want to stare at tables for hours.
>>58272032
Latin is hell lad dont bother
>>58272032
Just look for an Anki pack
>"Why aren't you learning Cantonese, Anon?"
>>58272626
I know it is, but I'm a /his/fag so I have actual reason to know it.
>>58272743
What's that?
>>58272974
Is that even possible to learn? Where do I get learning packs from?
>>58271652
It is easy. I play mmorpgs with north americans and nobody ever knows im foreigner until they hear my accent.
Hungarian for example is way harder than English
>>58273000
I never used Duolingo but I'm assuming it's learning method is similar to realkana.
realkana.com/
If so, Anki is same except for anything
http://ankisrs.net/
>>58272974
Because it's one of a few languages even more shitty than English?
>>58273308
>it's
sorry
>>58273329
don't confuse everything with Polish
Learning Portugese because of a gf I had from Brazil who got me really interested in it.
What are some good resources and things to better learn Portuguese?
>>58273360
You only get one typo here on 4chan.
Tread carefully from here on out
>>58273230
It is indeed possible to learn. There are some good websites, and you probably can find some books and audio files online as well.
>>58273329
(You)
>>58273522
All I found was about learning that shitty mandarin tbqh
>>58273522
and how many people can speak good mandarin in hong kong?
>>58273522
>It is indeed possible to learn. There are some good websites, and you probably can find some books and audio files online as well.
it useless as fuck because chinks in hongkong speak english, and it's extremely hard to learn for somebody which has a western language as mother tongue.
>>58273688
Don't discourage the other anons, Pierre. Just think how far a Cantonese speaking Ukrainian could go in this day and age.
He'd be unstoppable.
I want to learn Italian.
I will start studying it on Duolingo right now. Who wants to join me?
>>58273682
Younger people can, older people have more trouble.
>>58273688
>chinks in hongkong speak english
The English standard has actually decreased in recent times due to the increasing importance of Mandarin.
>>58273471
No, no, no. Polish is the language spoken in Poland. What you mean is actually Ukrainian.
I want to learn the language of love
>>58274153
good luck bud! italian can be pretty difficult at times, but once you master it you could easily delve deeper into the rest of romance languages.
I've recently started learing norwegian on Duolingo, gotta say i expected it to be a lot harder, but it seems pretty easy to grasp
>>58274153
Ia duolingo just meme or will you be able to speak basic italian after completing the course
>>58274687
Thanks, I have a pretty decent understanding of Spanish so it seems like it will be somewhat easy.
I tried Norwegian and it was very difficult for me at first, though I would like to try it again, or maybe Swedish.
>>58274695
I think it will get a person to A2 or B1, so it is good to use it with other resources.
I finished the French course and I would say it got me to A2. I could read and write a lot but I could hardly speak about anything.
>>58274695
You can't just do it in a vacuum. I'm learning French in combination with buying some books in French to practice with and shitposting in /fr/, et mon français n'est pas trop horrible.
>>58273480
I'm also looking for resources. Brazilian Portuguese has been the most fulfilling language I've tried to learn so far.
>>58273480
Start with duolingo,watch music videos with english subs,read brazilian online newspaper.
Thats how im learning german 100% by myself and im seeing some progress.
>>58275302
You can't learn German
does anyone know a good place to find spanish texts/video?
>>58267483
Shut up, you're annoying.
>>58262429
who is in for korean?
>>58275711
>Ukraine trying to forget what his ancestors did in 1942
>>58276604
What, die en masse?
>>58276927
He was probably talking about Stepan Bandera, but Bandera was a cool guy tbf.
>>58265638
Hebräische Verben sind ziemlich seltsam.
>>58276969
He was a boring generic nationalist, just look at his face, it radiates discouragement. Of course, I'm not consider him to be evil or something like that.
>>58277739
>Being too crazy for the SS
That's not boring or generic at all.
>>58275302
I'm learning german myself and by myself too...
How much time since you start? and how much you think you can understand?
me
>I started in 21 september 2015 (although I had some lessons before but with no commitment or actual progress)
>Right now Duolingo rates me at 49% of fluency, but I would rate myself in 25% because I just can understand and create simple phrases
>>58277739
wasnt he assassinated by a Pole who worked for KGB?
>>58278006
A good way to improve is to make sure you redo those early lessons when the gold wears off.
>>58278246
yes you are right, I saw that too, pic related is my progress right now
but I'm thinking in redo each lesson once I finish the theme labeled as "Adj: Acu. 0/6"
>>58279219
Make aure you're using it as well. Go bother the guys in /deutsch/.
>>58280117
oh I will, but when I can understand more of it; right now I just can understand a 1/4, guess another 1/4, and half of their words/sentences makes no fucking sense to me
>>58280117
>>58280422
Don't bother with /deutsch/, go straight to Krautchan.
>>58266186
Because in negative sentences the indefinite article 'un/une' and partitive article 'du/de la', used with uncountable nouns, are changed to 'de'.
Il y a une table dans le chambre - Il n'y a pas de table dans le chambre
Il y a du lait au supermarché - Il n'y a pas de lait au supermarché
Il y a la voiture de mon chef - Il n'y a pas de la voiture de mon chef
Il
>>58280768
>*Il n'y a pas la voiture
>>58262429
English is probably more "simple" rather than "primitive".
>>58266186
I'm a beginner too.
After a negation or many/few etc. always use "de"
il n'y a pas de vent
il y a beaucoup de voitures
etc.
>>58271652
>comparing English to quantum physics
kek'd
>>58281094
How can a man with a primitively moulded mind know for sure?
Noting that the flags notorious for shit-tier English are overrepresented here
>>58280504
yes, I'm going to look for any forums and sites even german tv... right now I prefer this kind of youtube videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHalU4mJmSY
>>58281094
>>58281691
wait what
>>58265810
so that would include you right?
Guess the language.
>>58283812
Finnish
>>58262429
There are no primitive languages
>>58262429
I don't think you know what the word "primitive" means...
>>58283954
Nope.
Oqaatsit ataasiinnaat naammanngillat.
Kalaallit oqalusinnaavit?
what is the name of that language in which you must "snap" your tongue in order to pronounce some kind of vowel?
>>58284118
O hi, the only anon who replied to my thread yesterday.
How could I learn Kalaallisut?
>>58284261
Do you mean Dental Clicks? They are more of a consonant, but I know that Zulu is one of the only languages that has them.
>>58284263
I'd say move to Greenland. I lived there for about two years.
>Inb4 for what purpose
Studying polar bears.
It's the easiest to pick up a language when you hear and see it daily.
>>58284555
>Studying polar bears.
You know why *grizzly* bears don't dissolve in water?
>>58284426
Yes, that's the one, it's fucking beautiful
Post your list of 5 best and 5 worst languages.
>best
Faroese
Icelandic
Greenlandic
Welsh
Czech
>worst
English
French
Dutch
Esperanto
>>58284664
Because they aren't polar?
(I'm surprised that I got that. I was terrible at chemistry.)
>>58284899
delet
>>58272032
Dont. Latin is way too hard. I am learning it myself. It is just hell on the earth.
>>58284983
>Because they aren't polar?
Exactly.
>delet
Sorry anon, I love Germanic languages but you two just suck. It's not your fault. I blame French influence on this. Fucking French should be pruned from the history desu lad.
>>58284899
Best:
German
Norwegian
French
English
Italian
Worst:
Japanese
Chinese
Portuguese
Arabic
Dutch
>>58285317
>Norwegian
You should check out Icelandic and Faroese. They're like Norwegian 2.0 and Norwegian 2.1.
>>58285442
Norwegian is really different from Icelandic
Plus Faroes have best music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWD4paslXQ
>>58284899
>worst
>English
ok
>>58285442
>>58285570
Sounds nice but I still prefer Norwegian tbqh
>>58285688
See >>58285257
Frenchtrash caused it lad. Beaowulf was rad.
>>58284899
>best
>Welsh
>worst
>Dutch
you shut your whore mouth
>>58287592
hhh chchch hggh hgchgchgch
You probably thought I just said something in Dutch. Wrong! I just had to hem.
>>58287592
Dutch just has troglodytic spelling
What Germans say: Frau
What Germans write: Frau
What Dutchmen say: Frau
What Dutchmen write: vrouw
hhh chchch hggh hgchgchgch is what you will see on a Welsh road sign in an area where everybody speaks English, Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz.
>>58287944
>vrouw
I fucking kek'd for some reason
>>58268071
What he's saying is that those words have subtle differences you wouldn't notice if you didn't extensively study the language or grow up with it.
>>58288464
The ij digraph is really retarded
>wij zijn twente :DDDDDD
>>58287944
We don't say "Frau" though. We say "Vrauw" You can't leave the "w" out. Though I agree that the "v" is pronounced like "f" in fast, informal speech.
And the "w" is a Dutch/German W obviously.
>>58262429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-mOy8VUEBk
>>58288609
The whole Dutch language looks retarded tbqh. Sorry Dutchbros, except for the language, I love you
>>58288609
The IJ is supposed to be two i's after each other (ii). It isn't retarded.
>>58288770
>Implicerend dat Frans minder geretardeerd is dan Nederlands.
François "L'ouf de Bouf" Baguette aub
>>58288791
I'd rather see ii instead
J in any language is the worst letter imo
>>58289022
L'ouf de Bouf?
Didn't imply anything Wouter, think what you want about my language
>>58289043
Especially in Spanish
>>58289043
But the Dutch "J" is pretty much always pronounced like the "Y" at the start of a word in English.
It may not register that way to you, but to me, it seems unnatural to pronounce it like "Dzj", just like the English "W" sounds more like "Ou" than what registers in my head as a "W" (Closer to a Hv). Seriously, what's up with having the W be a vowel?
>>58262429
>What language is the most primitive one?
Toki Pona.
>>58263910
Kiel vi fartas?
>>58284899
You're just mad because Esperanto is Poland's only good contribution to the world.
>>58292208
The only decent conlang I know of is Lojban.
>What language is the most primitive one?
IIRC, there's a tribe in Africa whose entire vocabulary is composed of like, 14 words.
>>58292595
>14 words
Maybe phonemes but not words. Toki Pona is a conlang designed to have as few root words as possible. It has about 200 root words (with which you can compose as many new words as you can imagine).
I've heard of a language that has 14 phonemes but not in Africa. It's here BTW >>58283812
>>58292471
Lojban is literally for autists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rewmVNsmz0s
Just a random autistic thought
Could the development of a country be connected to the complexity of its language(s)?
>>58284899
>best
Latin
Portuguese
French
Italian
Japanese
>worst
Dutch
Danish
Spanish
Polish
Tagalog
>>58293068
Lojban is fun and it has original grammar but this autist teaching it to his kid should have the baby taken like they do in Sweden. He hasn't grown up to be a parent yet.
PS: Using an apostrophe for /h/ sound when you have spare h letter is retardation.
>>58273254
you forgot an article. if english were so easy, how come you still forget to add articles in front of nouns?
The best-selling book in history ... apart from the Bible
>>58293125
I don't think they're correlated. Slavic languages generally have very complex grammar, yet Slavic countries are still shitholes for the most part.
>>58293789
>yet Slavic countries are still shitholes for the most part.
they've had a troubled past, communist regimes etc which completely changed the course of their countries
>>58293900
Yes, that's true. I think it's a shame that not one single Slavic country has been capitalist historically up until now. I think some of them could easily have been on the same level as most western euro countries if they weren't derailed completely by communism.
>>58272974
I'm gonna try. I'm learning Mandarin atm and it's pretty easy desu. With Cantonese though I'm very worried about the increase in number of tones. The difference between the mid flat tone, the mid-low flat tone, and the mid to low falling tone is almost non-existent to my ears. It makes me wonder how natives even learn the distinction with those three tones since they are so close.
>>58293445
It is a very light h, so it makes sense.
>>58294071
It makes sense to use apostrophe for glottal stop. H is h.
>>58293770
Actually it's Mao Zedong's red book.
>>58294004
unlucky
>>58294121
But it looks like shit with an h.
>co'o
>coho
>>58262429
for an italian the most primitive lunguage is spanish....truly, italian for dummies
>>58293125
No. You can't know more information based on what language you speak. The problem lies with the capacity of the brain, not the language.
>>58294178
It looks like shit with an apostrophe. It looks ok-tier with an h.
Would probably look best with a fancy orthography like Welsh or English but no one is autistic enough too do it with a constructed language.
>>58294292
Lojban has a Cyrillic, a Tengwar, and a neographic alternative orthography...
>>58294283
Actually, the language does affect the brain. It's a known fact that the brain of a child is extremely plastic.
>>58283812
Hawaiian
>>58294247
why tho
>>58293125
absolute yes. nothing is more powerful than the lunguage. Lunguage literally shaped us
>>58294004
Hm.
I dunno; it's a good question. The USSR's failure was pretty catastrophic for almost everyone involved, but a handful of post-communist states have done reasonably well compared to other countries that have no reason to be doing as badly as they are. China's still doing alright, despite its half-communist politics, although it is not true that it's on equal footing with western countries generally.
I suppose if anyone knows of a country with a Slavic majority, ie. >50%, that was both (1) never communist/USSR, and (2) has persisted as its own state through the same time period as the USSR, then you could probably take a stab at the answer. It'd still be "alternate verse" pseudohistorical bs, but at least it would be relatively informed compared with this shitpost "wut if Hitler PBUH cured cancer :DD" threads on /his/.
>>58294380
What did I say about constructed languages? That there's one of them that is not shit? Well fuck constructed languages. Even if someone manages to come up with a promising idea autists will fuck it up kurwa.
Sorry but English curse words are not enough for my post at the moment so I'll just say "ja pierdolę".
>>58294431
Good.
>>58294396
It affects how you process information but it doesn't raise the capacity or speed of process.
I'll dump some pics in case some Anons are interested.
Starting off with Mandaring Chinese. Keep in mind this is if you want to learn traditional Chinese characters (if you want to go to Taiwan, for example) rather than simplified Chinese characters (if you want to go to mainland China, for example).
>>58294432
if you don't speak italian is hard to explain...
both lunguage are latin
spanish lunguage is partially read as it write
>>58294639
next up: Japanese
Many of the links in this pic are dead (namely, all of the torrent links, as well as Nama-sensei's videos which were still down last I checked), but you should still be able to find the torrents elsewhere.
>>58294733
German
>>58294582
I do not understand your anal anguish.
Man I've been teaching myself German for about a year now. I still struggle through Harry Potter and /deutsch/ but I do understand all sentences even if I can't nail the precise meaning of all words involved. Not too impressive but it feels pretty good man.
If I have absolutely no one to learn with/talk to what can I do in order to beef up my listening and speaking? I've been watching Easy German on youtube amongst other things so I can pick up some naturally spoken German but I still can't form a sentence longer than 10 words since I only consume the language, never produce it. I have a few grammar books with exercises in them but I just do not learn well with declension tables and shit like that. Reading normals books helped me exponentially more once I learned basic grammar. I prefer to puzzle things out than get told time determiners go after the primary verb or whatever.
Bit of a wall of text here I guess.
>>58294779
Finnish
>>58294863
Latin
>>58294899
Got Greenlandic?
>>58294972
nope, sorry
>>58294899
Got french?
>>58294845
there's a german learning group on skype. it mainly contains members from /int/.
I'll gladly help you with learning the language if you want to. Here's a link to the group: https://join.skype.com/hOXWvrTP5Aax
>>58295212
How about Esperanto?
>>58294845
>I only consume the language, never produce it
Go to krautchan.
>>58295212
How does that work exactly? I've only used skype twice in my life and that was just to talk to some friends that were in another state.
Is it like a simulated classroom or something?
>>58293770
what's so great about it Cortés?
>>58295311
there are no esperanto learners in the group.
>>58295325
it's just a chat with multiple people in it. you can write german there and other people will correct it.
using the language is extremely important, you have no idea. if you don't actually force yourself to write german with native speakers or skilled learners you'll certainly never learn the language.
that's because you'll never be made aware of the mistakes you're making, which will make progress painfully slow.
>>58284261
ask your indios, paisita
>tfw anglos are mind blown by 3 genders
>>58274606
so, french?
>>58295433
That's pretty interesting. I'll try popping in on weekends or something when I have more time available.
Do I have to be invited first or something? When I clicked the link it and loaded up skype it said I can't join the conversation. Is that just because no one is online right now or something? (Sorry if this is a dumb question, I just don't know the program well at all.)
>>58295577
if the link doesn't work you can add justin12996 on skype. he's the leader of the group and he'll add you to it.
>>58265810
That's cause you live around mexicans
>>58295811
unless he lives in the east coast paisano
>>58295474
>wtf, not a word about the dual number????
>puts the cursor on the flag
>Slovakia
>>58296206
every slavic language has dual number tho
>>58294779
Do you have one of these for pt-br?
Thanks for the info btw.
>>58296206
>wtf, not a word about wealth????
>puts the cursor on the flag
>Russia
If I'm about c1-c2 level in Italian for reading and writing will it be possible in 3 months to be able to speak and understand the spoken language
I'd love to learn Croatian for muh heritage but there seems to be relatively little resources for doing it and those that exist are pretty much impossible to find copies of.
Perhaps I should just learn French like every other Canadian.
What do you guys think of Mondly? I've used it a few times and so far I like it better than Duolingo.
>>58295811
>>58265810
>leaving behind butts this hurted
ayy lmao
>>58296653
>like every other Canadian.
I wish
>>58296504
>every slavic language has dual number
Um?
>>58296891
which one is missing?
>>58296832
I meant every other Canadian that actually follows through with learning a second language.
>>58296653
slavic languages except Russian are useless
>>58297014
I'm not really learning it for practical reasons anon.
>>58262429
>What language is the most primitive?
That would be spanish for me, even if it's hard to master completely, its basic skills and the pronounciation itself are very forgiving for beginners.
>What methods are the most efficient in learning a language?
Immersing yourself around an enviroment of people who speak the language on a daily basis.
Look, I'm not trying to be racist, but even fucking braindead mongoloid spine cord damaged refugees from shitfuckistan can learn a skandi language (all of which are pretty difficult) even if they don't even know what an alphabet is when they step on the country for the first time.
>How long did it take you to become fluent?
spanish is my mother tongue. But I grew up talking to my english grandpa on a daily basis (still not completely fluent tho)
>What languages are you learning?
Swedish with the help of duolingo
>>58296947
I was talking about the grammatical dual number though
>>58278006
Started in december,i practice like 3 times per week.
i can recognize words when i watch videos and read short articles.Still cant create sentences spontaneously ,thats going to take some time.
Duolingo was good when i was a total beginner so nowadays i dont use it that much for german.
>>58281847
lol'd
>>58298004
me too
What are some good resources for learning Polish?
>>58288485
Every fucker knows that those words are different in a way. The point I was trying to make is that Italian also has a huge plethora of words and expression and so does every language in its own way. Which makes Italian grammar-wise much harder than English is.
>>58262429
>What language is the most primitive one? Most people would say English is
Nigger, there are African and Australian Aboriginal languages that consist of less than 1000 words
>>58303488
>Which makes Italian grammar-wise much harder than English is.
I meant that the only reason why English may be harder than Italian is due to writing. Otherwise, Italian is objectively harder.
>>58304299
unless you're familiar with spanish, italian doesn't appear as difficult.
>>58296737
That's some severe homo-eroticism, Mexi-bro. (Not that there's anything wrong with it . . . .)
Anyone ever use Mondly? How is it?
English isn't complex but it has adapted itself far better than Persian or Mandarin or any other analytic language at expressing ideas, it doesn't have the hang ups of verbal roots or a tonal system. Complexity means more than grammar and conjugation, many primitive languages like the Najavo used by code talkers in WW2, or Swahili and so on often conjugate words to far greater extremes than German or Russian or even Latin, and may conjugate a word so much a single "word" with all kinds of grammatical stems expressing different ideas attached can compose an entire sentence. Really it all comes down to what defines Agglunative/Synthetic/etc. But I get the idea that the arguments being made here are pointing towards, "Because this language is less complex it isn't as capable at expressing ideas" which is silly desu
Many say English was chosen to be a lingua franca on account of its primitiveness and accessibility for everyone. And I think noone has ever been able to refute this statement. Feel bad for English monoglots though, their minds are already shaped primitively.
Never learn English, guys. Its primitiveness is striking.
>>58305517
How is English "primitive"?
>>58306090
Well, you won't understand it anyway.
>>58306122
That's not an answer
>>58306090
He thinks primitive and relative ease-to-learn are the same thing.
/deutsch/ is asleep so I'll try asking here.
>Weil es heute regnet, dürfen wir nicht draußen spielen.
Why is dürfen in first position? Is it because it's part of a coordinating clause (or whatever) and not conjunction has been used?
>>58306165
He's fucking stupid
>>58306132
amplify your iq first by learning a more complicated language
>>58306132
>>58306191
you really wont understand it if you dont speak other languages. The best test for being primitive is to say if the language is suitable for legal purposes. Believe me english is one of the worst.
>>58306193
Maybe you should try learning English, retard. Primitive doesn't mean simple
>>58306212
I've studied quite a few other languages, and I know that English is simple. But that has nothing to do with primitiveness
>>58306219
And that's why I didn't use the word simple, plonker.
