>make a thread asking foreigners opinion about brazil
> 95% of replies come from brazilians.
I hate my countrymen
first
>>58227489
do you have a big ass? :^)
I love here senpai :3
Unironically i do.
Brazil is a shithole.
Happy?
it's ok, facing a lot of corruption just like the rest of south america, hopefully Dilma gets her just desserts as she was good friend's with Ch*vez.
Also, when I was younger I would cheer for Brazil's national team during world cup as Venezuela's team is pretty shit and has never qualified.
Well here is my opinion
accurate?
I'm a macacoboo and the fact that I will NEVER live a comfy live in Sao Paulo might drive me to suicide one day
>>58227863
>living in São Paulo(city)
>not countryside
kill urself
>>58227660
I think a lot of people cheered for Brazil when their national team is weak.
Brazilian players have so much charisma. Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Pele.
>>58227489
>make a thread asking foreigners opinion about brazil
stop attention whoring
>>58228301
b-but we are attention whore the country
>>58227749
almost. Those northeastern states that you characterized as "same" are usually associated with lack of rain and extreme poverty. Literally drylands. It's funny that foreigners think there are ample forests there when at best it looks like arizona
>>58227489
You see, I think brazilians should just stop creating threads.
>>58227749
>Rio Grande do Sul
well memed
I'll give you an opinion: I fucking despise it, and its people.
>>58227489
bundas
![desfile+oktober[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Y7k9bsu.jpg "desfile+oktober[1].jpg")
>>58227489
I was born in Porto Alegre, but moved to Miami when I was two years old, and only visited once when I was thirty two. Brazil is 99% a third world shit hole like the other LAT-AM countries. The only parts that are not shit are the states of the far south PR/SC/RS. Most of the people I met in the south were quick to tell you how different they were in comparison to the Rio or Sao Paulo type Brazilians. The far south should be a separate country.
Since I am white with a Czech last name, no one ever would think I was born in the third world. I work with quite a few Brazilians and none know my secret. I speak no Portuguese, so when I was in Brazil I was just another American tourist.
>>58227489
Here's an opinion from an Indian American (dot): your country is a poohole, and you're as corrupt, inefficient and overpopulated as other developing nations. Yet you pretend as if you're above them.
Your football used to be great. Used to be.
You have a bunch of trannies, at least on the internet.
Your country's researchers are hardworking people, at least those who come to US.
Why is Brazil so violent? I can understand Mexico since it's the last stop on the drug route to Burgerclapistan and Colombia since that's where all the good Coke is from, but Brazil isn't on the route.
>>58228791
Is that in Brazil?!
>tfw imagining a busty Brazilian qt with nice bunda in a tight-fitting Dirndl
>>58228038
Nothing wrong with that picture
>>58228795
>corrupt, inefficient
Yeah, no one here thinks otherwise.
>overpopulated
Brazil's interior is pretty much empty, though. Most of the population is either concentrated on big cities and on the coast.
>>58228795
>overpopulated
It's literally less populated than America. Not only we have less people but also less population density. I'd advise you to at least do minimal research next time you decide to shit on a country you know very little about, but you're an american indian so you're probably too busy getting aids and drinking to death
brazil and south africa are very similar i think
My opinion of Brazil comes mainly from Max Payne 3. Make of that what you will.
>>58229087
I'm dot, not feather. Get your memes right.
I meant overpopulated urban areas. I'm speaking from whatever I know of brasil from media and friends. You asked for my opinion, I'm not going to bother doing a fucking thesis on something every time someone asks on /int/.
>>58229159
You're not lying. We used to be less divided than you though but that's slowly changing as well
>>58228981
Yes Santa Catarina. From what all the German male tourists told me the German girls from SC are far superior to the actual German girls in Germany.
http://www.oktoberfestblumenau.com.br/en/
>>58228897
The drug traffic and the high poverty rate are the main causes of the violence here.
Generally, who kill and rob are the ones who had no chance in life (a.k.a. favelado) and fall for the crimeland to get some lame opportunities in the trafficking business.
>>58228981
Yas bro. According to a survey, 45% of the Santa Catarina population has german ancestry,
>>58229220
>You asked for my opinion
not OP, just stumbled upon the thread.
>I'm not going to bother doing a fucking thesis on something every time someone asks on /int/
No one is. That's why you street shitters have the reputation you do around here. You'd think that you, out of everyone else, would be more empathetic but I guess that's not how /int/'s ecosystem works
>>58227489
do you have a big ass? :^)
![black-nanny-photo-meme[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/209KqXQ.jpg "black-nanny-photo-meme[1].jpg")
>>58228795
>you're as corrupt, inefficient and overpopulated as other developing nations. Yet you pretend as if you're above them.
This is what I find most annoying about the Brazilians who live in SOCAL. Brazil is a third world poor shit hole just like Colombia or Venezuela. Yet monkey Brazilians seem to think they are slightly more refined turd heads
>>58229605
I have no idea where did you get that impression from. What confuses me the most is that in almost all those "rate other countries" threads, people here usually say that the worst thing about brazilians on /int/ is how much we hate ourselves and keep saying our country is shit. Are you new?
Brazilians how accurate is this movie about Brazil?
I'm video chatting with a fucking Brazilian girl right now
>>58229860
post bunda
>>58229605
Funny thing about that picture is that the nanny actually said later in interview that she supports the impeachment. At least she has a job too, wish I could say the same.
>>58229860
post bunda
>>58229605
That pic is literally left wing propaganda, anon. I was in some of the anti-government protests, and
never really saw shit like that. I'm also not white
>>58229827
From Rio to the north 90% accurate. In the far south 15% accurate.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e64_1424548685
>>58230156
That's fucking terrifying. It's just like a regular day for them
>>58229827
you should watch tropa de elite if you liked city of god, great BR movie as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7PqvzSwU9s
>>58230253
> It's just like a regular day for them
kek. Calm down. even violent rio has less murders per capta than, say, Chicago. I mean, it's violent but not a fucking movie. If it was literally like that the city wouldn't exist
>>58229975
>>58229885
She has nice tits but she is short and skinny
>>58230453
Liveleak says otherwise.
>>58230455
post tits
>>58230533
You first
>>58229827
I would say:
Accurate for Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo (not sure tho), Northeast states
Not so accurate for Minas Gerais, Espirito Santo, Mid-West states, North states
Not accurate for South states
>>58230653
>>58230310
>mission given is mission accomplished
lmao our psycho cops are some the most badass cops in the world. Too bad so many of them are also corrupt. But they do thirst for the blood of criminals like no other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZBbovy-o98
>>58230687
in tropa de elite 2 there's based nascimento trying to fight the massive corruption of the regular police through BOPE, i really like wagner moura he was great in both tropa de elite and narcos, and also in carandiru
>>58230653
Corpse of a teenage boy was found in a brush in Pedreiras, a city in Maranhão, Brazil. The body was decapitated, dismembered, disemboweled, castrated and the heart was carved out.
The victim was identified as 14 year old student named Emanuel Messias Silva de Sousa. Shortly after his discovery, the police arrested 20 year old Jose Antonio de Sousa, nicknamed Toinho, who confessed to the teen’s murder and said his murder was a cult ritual which involved eating the liver.
>>58230528
A lot of the extreme shit you see on liveleak is from some small town in the middle of nowere in the northeast. Southern towns are not nearly than violent, Rio being the exception but a lof of it is exagerated. Statistically, it's about as safe as the less safe zones in the US like Chicago, Miami, etc.. It's very violent, but not uninhabitable
>>58230811
Why did the northeast turn out that way?
>>58230784
Average day in Brazil
>>58230905
too much melanin
>>58230784
>Maranhão
that's your problem. North and northeastern regions are africa tier.
>>58230253
This was in the capital of white Brazil Porto Alegre, RS. This site has porn on homepage.
http://www.bestgore.com/murder/abduct-man-riddle-bullets-head-explode-brazil/
>>58230970
>This was in the capital of white Brazil Porto Alegre
that's not how you spell Florianopolis
>>58230784
Amazing. I almost choked with tea form laugh while reading it.
>>58230970
Why do they do that after he is dead? I just saw a video of a guy getting stabbed in the face with a pole and they kept doing it that when the pole actually got stuck in his face they turned the pole sideways and jumped on it. Jesus christ
>>58230811
You are insane comparing Rio to Miami as far as crime goes. Miami is filled with Brazilians who love living in a secure environment, and not having to worry about being murdered; few want to got back to Brazil. The problem is when you live in a third world shit hole you think that is normal, and all other places are shit holes.
I love to see those North American bitches crying.
Just accept bruhs, Brazil still better than this shithole you live in.
>>58231216
I lived in the South Zone of Rio. Statistically, it's about as safe as Boston. I was nbever robbed or feared for my life in the slightest. Most of the murders happen in the northern zone of the city, where most of the slums are. It's also mostly drug dealers killing each other. When a middle-class person dies, it's first page news everywhere. I think you don't understand how similar we are to some of your cities
>>58231216
Ok, come back to your mass shootings.
>>58231072
>Florianópolis
>Picked a city that the majority of the population has portuguese/azorean ancestry, and not german or italian ancestry
Bitch please, you should pick Joinville, which is originally german and is the most populous city in Santa Catarina
GOD I LOVE BRAZILIAN WOMEN THAT BUNDA WAS MADE FOR ME
southeast/manaus is the only productive region
>>58231318
Sure thing, friend.
>>58231318
America is light years ahead of us, stop lying to yourself. If only their women weren't so fat it would be the perfect country tbqh
>tfw i don't live in a temperate snowhole
>>58231605
>tfw I do
>>58231644
gib educated citizens
>>58231557
Hahahahaha.
US is a brazilian version with low taxes and no public services.
Vai chorar pra lá, vira-lata!
>>58231644
>canada
>temperate
You're not fooling anyone. We all know that Canada is a glacial principality under the british crown
>>58231744
Don't want to die violently m8
>>58231808
>tfw 4 distinct seasons
>>58231760
>brazil
>public services
HUEHUE
U
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They'd have better public services than us by investing 1% of their GDP in them. Stop embarrassing us
>>58231814
the homicide rate per 100,000 inhabitants where i live is 7,07 ...
i-is it canada tier?
>>58231950
DELETE
>ywn ride to school in your bike while passing through the leaf-filled streets in autumn
>>58227489
It's shit
But good shit
Happy?
>>58231950
>distinct
your idea of summer wouldn't pass for fall in the tropics. I live in south brazil, far enough from the equator that we often get negative temperatures in the winter, even snow in several regions. I would never compare our winter to your continental igloo, though
>>58231950
rude
![4ruvci[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fno1buk.jpg "4ruvci[1].jpg")
Go to southern Brazil. The white girls are dying to leave the small farming towns, and they really love black cock
Watch this video, Gaucha Michelle Muerer is dying for someone to take her to the USA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlUHx4h5zxw
>>58232021
I have no idea t.b.h, they call Winnipeg "Murderpeg". We're shit at nicknames I know.
>>58232201
CRISP AUTUMN AIR IN YOUR LUNGS
>>58227660
chicano
>>58232242
But the Average summer temperature in Toronto is 21°C (70°F)
>>58228791
chicano
>>58232253
What is it with Americans and black cock?
Never been to brazil but it seems amazing to me. Gonna be in Natal and Fortaleza for work for ~5 month in about a month and a half
>>58232387
>21
kek. That's exactly what I mean, Average summer here is about 30+ degrees, and it lasts much longer
>>58231969
>public
>US
Is it b8?
>>58227489
>opinion about brazil
Met a lot of Brazilians on erasmus or holiday here. They are generally nice and party a lot, but act WAY too macho for American women and will literally try to cuck you if they're drunk (unsuccessfully, I might add).
Some of them are white, but most are brown.
Brazil itself is a corrupt, poor, jungle nation with pockets of rich white people.
Great barbecue.
>>58232440
>Average summer here is about 30+ degrees, and it lasts much longer
fug
>>58227489
Why does it matter what foreigners think about Brazil?
Brazil is a country made by and for Brazilians, not for americans, indians, germans or russians. I believe in the inexorable victory of Brazil as a nation, we will reach there, with our strength alone.
>>58232511
>for Brazilians
Nice one lad
>>58232440
Do you even own a pair of pants with that heat or is it like always shorts weather?
>>58232488
>>58232440
average summer is 35 C + in my city, it gets worse and worse every year, few days ago we had 30 C days IN SPRING, le global warming isnt real meme people should fuck off тbh
im too white for this shit, i was born in le wrong peninsula
>>58230905
Northeast is a poor region which since the capital of Brazil moved from Salvador to Rio de Janeiro, was neglected and ignored by the State. There are pratically no laws/no police in it's countryside and big cities outskirts.
The State's focus, since then, was to develop the Southeast region, the South region when the immigration exploded there, and most recent, the Mid-West region with modern techniques of agriculture.
The Northeast region didn't received development incentive due to it's lack of resources, so the State simply didn't care. In the last years, the coast cities of the Northeast received a great development due to investment in tourism. The North is poor simply because the great florests out there makes it impossible the development of cities.
>>58232603
I for one wear pants even up to 38. Gotta look professional.
>>58232452
US has much better general public services than we do. Are you an indoctrinated PT voter or just retarded? I've been there. Even their public transpoirt in smaller cities, something they don't even invest in because everyone has a car is better than ours. Our public services are garbage tier, and the most embarrasssing thing is that we pay a lot more taxes than they do
>>58232511
>I believe in the inexorable victory of Brazil as a nation, we will reach there, with our strength alone.
>>58232290
>there are universities in my state where their lay-offs are based around the summer, because not even air conditioners can overcome the heat
![Brazil-Headline-News-Police-brutality-and-killings[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TiugQU8.jpg "Brazil-Headline-News-Police-brutality-and-killings[2].jpg")
>>58232511
Not when the majority of the country is like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLhRfZ-QwrI
>>58232670
>>58232614
>>58232693
Christ
>>58232603
I easily use jeans at 40ºC. The funny thing is that you snowniggers suffer a lot more to adapt to our climate than we do to yours. I lived in New Hampshire during winter, and after a few weeks I was feeling pretty confy. You people literally cry here every day for years until you finally get used to it
>>58232440
The few days of 30+ degrees that I remember occurring here weren't hell-tier or anything, it should be even easier for you guys since you've lived there long enough to get used to it.
>>58232671
Speaking of brazilian public transit.
>>58232557
>Brazil is a country of immigrants
Sure it was, but not anymore. However Iberians will be always welcome, alongside other ethnicities such as levantines, italians and japaneses.
>>58233060
>Rio
If you knew how Rio looks you'd understand. The most useful regions are all in that line. Expanding the metro to the north would be a bad idea
>>58232921
I honestly can't handle heat also
>New hampshire
>Cold
kek the average lows don't even get into the minus
>nunca terás uma pitanga mineira para tomar café com leite juntinhos na sacada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbT4SR2nO9o
![11904654_1484550298509323_2308849964377474145_n[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9UP0r3W.jpg "11904654_1484550298509323_2308849964377474145_n[1].jpg")
If you are curious about the far south of Brazil this is a good thread.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?182579-Southern-Brazil&s=4e3d09ab36786f3fab1583b2dcaa0aa1
>>58233196
You out of your mind? It was below 0ºC 90% of the time. If reached -15 at some point. I remember having to clear a fucking meter of snow after a storm
>>58233060
You can't compare tho, any infrastructure project in Rio is a nightmare because of the terrain, plus it is a much smaller and less populated place. And as >>58233174 pointed out, it covers most of the economic hub of the city.
Try the same with São Paulo. It's probably not so different;
>>58233294
>theapricity
take that condensed autism away nigga you'll create a black hole
>>58232242
WE
WUZ
EUROPE
>>58227489
I think Brazil has potential but is currently a shithole. That's how most of the world sees you.
Also stop fucking with your natives.
Where in Brazil can I find a girl like this? How common are they? Is she likely wealthy?
>tfw no Juliana gf
http://youtube.com/watch?v=N6sz-YKs8co
>>58233457
your hands are stained, fries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
Kek, I find it funny when I read things like >>58228791 , letting europeans which are not from the south was a mistake. They should all leave tbqh.
>>58233366
Amateur hour. The average online says between 1-2ºC with the northern part being -6ºC. Here the average low is -18ºC. Try walking in -30ºC with wind hitting your face because your car is buried. Russia feels our pain. I want to live in southern Ontario where it's warmer.
>>58233504
they're quite common desu
>>58233529
>operation condor
best day of our lives. Too bad the americans stopped caring about latin america as much and left us to rot in the hands of the left. God, I hope we remove them for a long time when Dilma is finally impeached :^)
>>58233695
>>58233619
That's because it's a proper temperate region. You live in a tundra
>>58233695
Why are whites so rich in Brazil? Is it racist?
>>58233818
The Brazilian elite is 95% Portuguese/Italian and some Lebs, are they whites for you?
>>58233695
>yum yum americum
>>58228464
That's because Northeast tourism hot spots are located at the humid, rainy, few dozens km wide forest belt at Northeast coast.
Maybe it's more like Texas - a 8C/15F degrees hotter and slightly less dry version of Texas.
desu Sao Paulo looks like a very nice city. Tell me what it's like Brazilbros
>>58233920
>eat eat commieshit
![finalistas_poa_principal[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2EPs8qw.jpg "finalistas_poa_principal[1].jpg")
>>58233504
The majority of the white girls can be found in the far south Santa Catarina, Rio Grande do Sul, Parana. In Rio they live in Leblon and Ipanema. Keep in mind the pure white girls are off limits to tourists, even other white Latinos strike out with them. I have read every Brazilian thread on male travel websites and no one claims to have landed a pure white southern girl. You will have to be happy with a brown Portuguese type at best.
pic: Gauchas from Menina Fantastica 2010
>>58233973
It's a concrete jungle that smells like piss.
>>58227489
Hello my fellow 4channers, my name is Abu Handbanana, and as you can notice from the flag above, yes, I am Brazilian, but no, I am not the steriotypical Brazilian, I am a different kind of Brazilian, I am different. How? Do you ask? You could supposedly say I am a civilized kind of Brazilian, a superior one, akin to you my fellow civilized first world 4channers; as you know already, Brazilians are uncivilized folks that are only good at throwing their excrements at one another, screeching loudly, demanding goods and stealing earnings from the hard working people of the world. I, for instance, do not partake with such people, I mean you can certainly see that I am different kind of Brazilian, I mean look at my persona, you can certainly spot several differences in my presentation. As such, as you have read thus far, I speak perfectly English, akin to you my fellow civilized folks, I am dressed properly to my exhibition to the civilized first world, as you can notice in my picture attached to this manifesto; also I am devout believer of reason over emotion, different from the animalistic people that unfortunately share this land with myself; and finally the most important piece of evidence that proves that I am a differentiated kind of inhabitant of this inferior country and also a similar being to you my god chosen people is the undeniable and objective fact, the basis of every single claim that I've made thus far, is the lawful, dogmatic and genuine fact that I am indeed NOT A MONKEY
>>58233882
Yes
>>58234057
>everyone is a vira-lata
>brazil is great, I swear. w-we're part of the BRICS and MERCOSUL. We don't need filthy americans anymore, we're a strong independent nation that needs no capitalism
there he is. We were wating for you
YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTENED
THIS IS THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE
>>58234203
Prepare your anus, cause Temer is gonna give all your money to bankers. But you wont even notice, because you'll be in the streets celebrating like a moron.
>>58234389
What money?
>>58234389
>t-temer is going to give all our money to bankers
>implying Lula and Dilma didn't already, basically rising our internal debt by over 300%
That fact that you people vote is both hilarious and sad to me
![968full-aline-weber[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/25ZxbRj.jpg "968full-aline-weber[1].jpg")
White Brazilians are not considered Brazilians in the USA or Europe. This is what happens when a white girl tries to say she is Brazilian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn62CO7q4NQ.
>>58234472
>>58234514
When you hear economists and journalists talking about "responsible economic policy", what do you think they are talking about? Here's a hint:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Greece
Try to guess whose interests are going to be protected, and who's gonna get screwed.
>>58234771
wrong video i am sorry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeKA4oKTIiQ
>>58233973
Nice.
>mfw living in Americana.
>>58235057
>proud of being descendant of losers
Cucks.
>>58234850
>>58234771
>you don't look brazilian at all!
>>58227655
R-rude...
I love Finland
>>58234828
>Lula gets rid of our entire external debt by raising our internal debt to over 1 trillion R$.
>basically 1/4th of our budget goes to pay interest money to investment bankers and the like, but hey we sure showed those filthy capitalist first worlders that we're string and independent!
>at the end of his governemt he already can't increase our internal debt anymore so he gets loans of over 300 billion
>basically sold our souls to national and international bankers
>mfw some people thinks Lula and Dilma are great revolutionaries and everyone agaist them must suck america's balls
>>58232670
>>58232921
The reason you wear jeans even in very hot weather is because of disgusting diseases insects carry in the third world shithole of Brazil.
>>58235401
Not really. I wear shorts when I'm not going to work/uni
>>58235401
Ok "german"
>>58235401
This. Brazil is a fucking utter shithole, hopeless pile of dogshit country with absolutely no hope or future
>>58235511
That's... a bit harsh
>>58235511
bit uncalled for
>>58227489
>opinion about brazil
CARNAVAL SAMBA RYMBA VOODOO
>>58235272
You just need to elect real communist in the next election who nationalizes all foreign investor property and doesn't acknowledge the external debt even exists.
Then Brazil will surely become very prosperous.
I like Brazil
>>58235511
delet
>>58234850
>You don't look brazilian at all!
Seriously. Fuck that bitch. She says this as she even know what a "brazilian" looks like. There's NO pattern look for a brazilian, a brazilian can be everything you think.
>>58235695
Yes. We'd become so prosperous we'd look like we went back to how we were in 1775
>>58235272
That's all true. And what kind of government are we gonna get with the end of the PT era? A more anti-banker one? You think Bolsonaro is gonna take over and install a right-wing nationalist government? No, we're gonna have the Greek Growth Model, you know, real First-World shit.
>>58227489
A corrupt, violent third-world shithole that treats the poor like animals, but with a chance of eventually, possibly, getting its shit together and becoming a decent country. Also the women are sexy and have the best asses.
>>58235221
I posted before; was born in Porto Alegre RS, but no one knows that because I am white. I have gone out to dinner with whites from Brazil, and have seen whole tables say you do not look Brazilian, or where is your family really from. I knew one white girl from Londrina and everyone she worked with thought she was an albino.
Aline is not really Brazilian; she should of said - "I am a German girl from Brazil."
>>58235807
>Bolsonaro
Stop with the memes, someone like him would never get elected. Dilma and Lula spent way too much money and implemented social policies that no one's ever going to get rid of, because that would be political suicide. The marxist left has won. Congrats. The next government will, if we're lucky, maintain shit as it already was in the Lula era but hopefully without the militant lunacy of PT, PCdoB and PSOL. At this point this is all we can hope for
>>58235221
>>58235766
She was expecting an ugly, brown rapebabby(who are the majority in brazil) not some 100% german goddess.
>>58236082
>The marxist left has won.
Delusional.
>>58236082
NOVO will fix it.
>>58236082
Can't wait for the Lenin and Marx picture on every building too.
>>58236167
It hasn't, but it's implemented too deeply in our republic to be stopped democratically. We managed to stop the left here becoming something like it did in Venezuela or Bolivia, but in the end they are going to win. You won't see liberalism dying here in our lifetimes, but it will in 100 years unless there's a brutal revolution
>>58236302
Do you have any doubt that what's happening in Brazil is a victory for capitalists? Yeah, ok, we may have gay marriage and abortion and shit like that, but that's not Marxism. That's standard american-style liberalism, a center-right ideology.
>>58235221
>>58235766
>>58236094
To be fair the vast majority of Brazilians in the USA are Portuguese or mixed with Porty - they have last names like Lima, Silva, Costa.
>>58236755
Isn't PT pretty neoliberal too? Why do they want to impeach Dilma if she isn't THAT different from the conservatives themselves? Seems pretty drastic.
Love it. Spent a month there last July.
t. Wanderlust Murrican
>>58229827
Rio de Janeiro State compunds less than 10% of Brazil population, although Gov't and the powerful Globe TV sell Brazil as a nation of hundres of millions of cariocas.
Now imagine how a filme named "Ville de Fleur de Lys"
filmed in Montreal would be accurate about the whole Canada.
>>58236876
For the same reason people want to destroy Obama in the US. For Capital, 90% victory is not enough. It must be 100%.
>>58236755
>Do you have any doubt that what's happening in Brazil is a victory for capitalists?
No, but even if they obliterate PT they will never obliterate the left. It's way too strong right now, and it has way too much power in our education system, pumping out people like you in a industrial scale. The right has a good chunk of the midia, and it's starting to gain the internet. In fact, this thing happened bnecuase middle-class liberals finally realised they can also do social protests.
Still, it's an uphill battle. The funny thing is that you still believe you're the underdogs, while never acknowledging that your line of thinkning is very dominant. You commies and pinkos are still ahead. I find it unlikely that the right will be able to undo what you have done in a short time, and by the time they are able to do anything another cisis will come along and some other left-wing candidate will take power
>>58236876
Literally destroyed our economy.
Like any other PT politician, she governs for her party, not the country.
>>58237060
I guess so. Impeachment seems pretty extreme though but then again the Republicans wanted to do the same shit in the 90s here
>>58236876
>Isn't PT pretty neoliberal too
No. PT's strategy is BRICS, Africa and South America. Theyresign themselves to be a bit more liberal to make our inverstors and business people here happy and also because they are pressured by our more conservative congress, so sometimes people get that impression. Their goals are anti-liberal to the bone, even though they are not ultra-radicals
>>58236942
How's Hong Kong?
>>58237122
>acknowledging that your line of thinkning is very dominant
The line of thinking that you refer to is American-Style Liberalism. Gay marriage, feminism, some degree of social security, etc... Yes, that's becoming dominant, and that's a victory for capitalism, because people don't even talk about the possibility of another economic system. It's all about the stupid "culture wars".There's nothing "Marxist" about it.
I like you Brazil I just hope you get over your drug addiction friend....we love you.
>>58232440
it´s 40 degrees celsius in my city right now.
it´s fucking autumn
i live you Cuiabá .
>>58227489
>>make a thread about russia for russians in russian language
> 95% of replies come from foreigners posting retarded provocative shit
>>58237679
The line of thinking that is becoming dominant is "capitalism is evil, Latin america is only poor because of the evil english liberals who pushed it to exploit us, America and capitalist central powers do everything in their power to make sure we stay underdeveloped", etc. Pure Marxist theory, condensed by intellectuals in universities then regurgitated back to us in school. I studied history in college, and anyone who did knows that Latin American hystoriography is mostly based on Marxist theory. I'm not exagerating, I'm not even saying marxist authors are bad or stupid, I'm just stating facts.
What surprises me is that people like you think you're very distinct in that line of thinking, not understanding it's simply dominant.
I was a teacher for a while and talked to students, both in private and public schools, and that's how they think. When I was their age, that's how I thought as well. You're common.
>>58227489
Your guys can be sexy as fuck, but most are ugly.
You couldn't pay me enough money to visit Brazil.
I know a Brazilian guy with HIV, chlamydia, hepatitis A, and stage 3 pressure ulcer on his ass
>>58238509
>HIV meme
that's one of the very few things we did right
>>58230453
>>58230811
>>58230960
> Using geoecology map to put Rio together with Southern States
>>58232643
> Implying Rio de Janeiro is still Brazil capital hence sooo different from Salvador
> The miraculous tourism development in Northeast
>>58230453
> Rio less violent than Chicago
EMBRATUR shill identified
> Brazilian Tourism Board
![brazilian-swimmer[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QHPIIOU.jpg "brazilian-swimmer[1].jpg")
>>58238189
You are poor because you were created by two semi-Euro backward countries. Even in the 70s Spain/Portugal were at best second world countries. South America will always be a shit hole, even 100 years from now. At this point you cannot change your system, just as a 5'7" man will never be six feet tall.
>>58238189
Ok, so it's "dominant". And what use is this "dominance"? FHC was a Marxist theorist, and look at what he did. With this kind of "Marxism", I don't see what Liberals are complaining about. Unless you're a Conservative, in which case you have a lot to complain about, because Liberal-Capitalist-Globalist ideology is winning.
I think it has beautiful nature but it's people are terrible.
And I see latinos weekly (kind of in a student/expat area) and the brazillian women aren't even hot they either are a bad case of race mixing or have a weird nose.
I could just be unlucky though of course.
>>58230784
As you can see, psycopathic murderes like Jeffrey Dahmer, The Zodiac, Ted Bundy, etc. aren't a North America exclusivity.
>>58238749
> Using geoecology map to put Rio together with Southern States
I agree, we have little in common.
>>58230453
This, everyday life is not memes.
>>58231216
>>58231216
>Miami is filled with Brazilians
And I bet my kidney that the ones """'fleeing""" violence don't live in "little haiti". On per capita terms Miami has about the same murders.
>>58238922
I don't think you ever read Marxist theory. Most marxists today want to implement communism through capitalism and strong social reforms, slowly asserting itself into the state. The whole idea of progressive tax systems was marxist in origin.
You could argue that FHC wasn't really going in that direction, even though he raised taxes tremendously during his government, but Lula certainly was. Not every communist is a Trotskist.
In fact, unless you're a Trotskist, you ough to be very happy as a lefty right now. You're implementing their theories very well, seeing that a lot of what PT did is almost irreversible. It almost guaranteed that they would never lose power. Dop you notice how they always say that everything will be reversed if the opposition wins(even though FHC did a whole bunch of social programs himself, and at the time was even criticized by PT for it)? PSDB had to put Bolsa Familia in the fucking constitution just to try and descredit soime of PT's propaganda. They're lunatics. Maybe you'll see a liberal/conservative reaction right now, but I don't know how long it will last
![dani_01[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IVru7zd.jpg "dani_01[3].jpg")
>>58239256
This is not hot? Are you some LA movie producer?
>>58227660
M A G A
>>58239582
Here she's a 6-7/10; assuming she has a good body underneath.
Also... the Brazillians I met are nice people; I meant it more in the sense that Brazil has a lot of criminals which makes the people "terrible."
>>58227489
>poozil
>>58231358
> I think you don't understand how similar we are to some of your cities
I think you don't understand how different you are from other (Brazilian!) cities. Like most of your "people", you have little clue about anything.
Man Shot to Death in Rio Southside (01/28/2016)
> Near famous hospital, in a street with trendy pubs/nightlife
> A couple was also shot
http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2016/01/homem-e-assassinado-tiros-em-laranjeiras-zona-sul-do-rio.html
>>58240383
>I think you don't understand how different you are from other (Brazilian!) cities. Like most of your "people", you have little clue about anything.
I live in Porto Alegre now. I saw a dead man laying on the street the other day in Floresta, a shitty part of the city that's literally five minutes away from Moinhos, the most expensive and "elite" part of the city. He was shot by some thung who lived in what gauchos call vila nearby.
I was also robbed once downtown here, something that never happened in Rio. Maybe I was just lucky there, but I don't find the south to be all that safe, nor do I know where did this myth start. I assume it was started by some south fag
>>58231216
I bet he's an Embratur shill. Don't listen to that liar.
>>58239557
I'm not going to discuss the fantastic notions that those "Marxists" you refer to may have in their heads. Maybe Dirceu believed, in his twisted mind, that what he was doing was a step in the direction of communism. Who fucking cares?
What matters is this: who has benefited from the policies of the "Left" in the last decades in Brazil and Europe? Clearly, not the "proletariat". From that, you can conclude who they're working for.
The "Marxist Left" you're referring to is totally committed to the maintenance, expansion and strengthening of the Capitalist system.
What you see around you is Real Capitalism. If it doesn't look like some 18th century Liberal myth, too bad. That's the way it is, and that's the way it's always been.
>>58231808
You have little clue what Canada is. Stop embarrasing yourself.
>>58240824
You are a fucking tard. kek
>>58240798
>What you see around you is Real Capitalism
That's where we diverge. To me, real capitalism/liberalism took a giant hit in the 19th century, by socialists. What we have now is a weird distorted center-left, socialist order that basically wants to make the entire wolrd dominated by some weird corporatist oligarchy, organized into a powerful super-state. Utterly agaisnt classical liberal values. What you call the "right" or capitalism, I call national socialism. In this case, globalist socialism. That's what the left is to me. It may be the right to you simply because you hate capitalism
>>58240824
I thought only germans were this autistic
>>58240642
Were these white people killing white people or regular monkey Brazilians? Is the downtown like a favela with people from the north of Brazil?
Here is a monkey Brazilian assaulting a white girl in Porto Alegre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s3Nc6SO9uc
>>58241992
That looks more like a shitty suburb than Porto Alegre proper. Most murders are drug dealers killing each other. Some are white but most aren't.
And yeah, there are a lot of non-whites living in favelas here. Downtowns are not favelas, they are always in the suburbs.
>>58239456
> everyday life is not memes
So you should we're in 2016, not 1936. Al Capone is dead; the mafia boss is gone.
>>58241137
If you're going to retreat into an imaginary golden age of free markets and autonomous individuals, then your position becomes immune to criticism. Anything I say will be a straw-man argument. Enjoy your victory.
>>58242484
> an imaginary golden age of free markets and autonomous individuals
are you going to retreat to an imaginary dark ages where capitalists were the devil incarnate and everything was a conspiracy to justify imperialism and slavery?
If capitalism ever had a golden age, I was never there to witness it so I can't confirm it. I don't think you can either. Humanist values and classical liberal values do exist, however, and that's what I defend.
>>58241254
You have little clue about Germans. And me.
>>58242952
I have a clue about having a sense o humor and I can tell that you're an autist
>>58242665
>I can't confirm it. I don't think you can either
Actually, I don't have to. It has already been done. There's official data from the British Government about the conditions of the population during that "Golden Age". That's referred to in Das Kapital, but it's common knowledge, so you don't have to read this devilish work to know what I'm talking about. Those were the consequences of the absurd notion of the "free labour contract between autonomous individuals", one of these "humanist" values you refer to.
>>58243521
Do you have the numbers before the industrial/capitalist revolution? Was it better before? Is it better now solely because of social reforms, or does it have anything to do with technology? Comparing ages is harder than you make it seem.
>>58243663
To complement that, was it better enywhere else outside Britain, for the average person? Did other systems really provide a greater alternative? Were people freer in Imperial China? Were the average person, even a non-slave in the Roman Empire better off? Was the average medieval peasant?
>>58241992
This happened in Porto Alegre:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=156_1449104828
>>58243150
You can say whatever you want.
Like you did when you said Canada is entirely glacial - including South Canada. It's plain dumb and shows the Canadians how clueless you are.
But yes, you can say it anyway.
>>58244221
>>58244221
>>58244221
>I share the same country with this autist
>>58244001
But I thought RS was a white first world country? Sim/Nao? They would not hurt a young Gisele Bundchen in Porto Alegre would they?
>>58244711
>But I thought RS was a white first world country?
russia tier
>>58243663
>>58243787
That's a very broad subject. I don't have the answer to everything. But it seems to me that the average worker in early-19th century British industry was much more exploited than the average European peasant. Peasants controlled their productive process, and had to give part of the product to the feudal lord. Factory workers worked under strict control, gave all their product to the capitalist, and in exchange received a small sum of money that permitted their subsistence, nothing more.
Of course, I'm not in favor of Feudalism. I sympathize a lot with 18th-century style Liberal values. But the idea of the "free labour contract between autonomous individuals" I simply cannot accept. I just doesn't work that way. It's a legal fiction elevated to the level of dogma that prevents people from seeing the true nature of the system.
>>58244221
Thank you
>>58244260
>>58244296
>>58244613
He's not wrong
>>58244803
>the average European peasant. Peasants controlled their productive process, and had to give part of the product to the feudal lord.
Do you really claim that craftsmen were had less freedom and a better life than medievel slaves tied to the land? Just observe how often starvation was during that period compared to the post-industrial era, especially during the 1800's in britain.
>Factory workers worked under strict control, gave all their product to the capitalist, and in exchange received a small sum of money that permitted their subsistence, nothing more
They had a much bigger access to clothes than a medieval peasant. Also, bigger access to food. Why do you think the population grew so much at that time? The production levels were way higher than anything ever conceived before. It got to a point where clothes weren't a class distinguisher anymore during the Victoria era, because they became cheap enough that some commoners could afford them.
>>58244221
ANON YOUR PILLS
>>58244950
You're welcome. Someday this kid will complete high school, take a well-paid job and earn money to travel worldwide. Or maybe not - 95% of jobs in my country don't pay enough to such "luxury" - KEK.
>>58245443
>kid
>-KEK
>heh, sorry kid. Maybe one day you'll be as cool as me
fuck anon, you're killing me. Are you this autistic?
>>58245116
>craftsmen
>medievel slaves
You're distorting things. Peasants were not slaves, they had their semi-independent communities, and the obligations they owed to their feudal lords were nothing like slave labour or the 19th century factory. And I don't know why you're bringing up craftsmanship, since it's capitalist accumulation that destroyed it and replaced it with the factory system.
The increase in total material wealth that you refer to is a result of technology and modernization. That's perfectly compatible with the idea that businesses should be owned by the workers themselves. Socialists have always been pro-modernization.
The issue is ownership, democratic control, the capacity of the people to decide what goals they want to pursue together, without a supposedly "enlightened" class above them telling what to do (notice the similarity between the capitalist and the bolshevik mindsets).
>full of Brazilians itt actually
hideous
>>58245927
? kek
>>58245443
>this whole post
>>58245516
I think he is.
>>58245880
>Peasants were not slaves
Depends on what kind of peasantry you're talking about, but generally they weren't slaves in the same way sheep aren't slaves. They were serfs, with limited rights that were very dependent on the humour of their lords and/or very rudimentary systems with limited guarantees, and were moved around and exchanged like trading cards. Compared to them, 19th century workers were very free.
>since it's capitalist accumulation that destroyed it and replaced it with the factory system.
Factory workers were generally called craftsmen. I'm not talking about independent artisens. You seem to think that factorie workers were always extremely specialized in minial tasks and workers were always completely unskilled, which is a lie
>democratic control
never an idea particularly defended by communists before the 1900's. Socialists were also part of your supposed "enlightened" class, and it was never an initiative that came to be from the workers themselves.
> businesses should be owned by the workers themselves
>the capitalist gets all the capital to himself
and what? Hoards it in his house? Money means nothing, what matters is production. The capitalist may have 10000 more money than the worker, but does he consume 10000 the ammount of food? Of water? Cloth fabric?
That's actually what some people found out during the french revolution. They were angry, and hungry, so they assaulted the very symbol of wealth concentration at the time: the palace of versailles. A place where the accumulated wealth of some of the most powerful people in the world was. What did they get from sacking it? Nothing. All that wealth couldn't get them enough food to distribute between millions.
Most of the money the capitalist gets becomes productive investments. Most of what he produces is sold to other people, often poor people.
>>58246531
By the way, I'm not a libertarian. I agree with some degree of social reform, and think that the individual should sometimes be protected by appropriate laws. It's not ideal, but the world is not ideal. I'm just not a communist. I think collectivism would literally destroy our freedoms, and would inevitably make our lives bleak and horrible. I also believe high levels of socialism generates extreme inefficience in production, just by observing that countries that actually try it usually end up with breadlines.
>>58245443
>complete high school
>well-paid job
>Brazil
>well-paid job
>>58244711
Rio Grande do Sul has a white minority and this is how they live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlUHx4h5zxw&t=2m24s
>jewish guy looking for attractive white girls in rural areas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlyogRlKNks&t=0m28s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEMiUQT6j2Y&t=6m59s
>He says "I live here for 62 years"
Arrived right after WW2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=453A8fgdmFo&t=11m55s
>"I hope that one day i will be able to buy a better house."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg5lxB0bE54&t=1m30s
>blond haired guy finally gets rid of welfare to save himself from starvation
It's not first world at all.
Brazil is pretty homosexual and degenerate and religious at the same time
wtf
>>58246743
It's pseudo-religious.
It's like:
>do whatever you want just don't deny God's existence and thank God for everything
You can for example, have a foursome with people and even murder people, but as long you're believing in God you're a good catholic.
It's a facade like everything else in Brazil. In Brazil we pretend 90% things, Brazilian people are very good actors.
>>58246913
>catholic
I think he was talking about the evangelicals.
>>58246913
Interesting
We call that hypocrisy over here
>>58246743
I imagine it's like the mafia, kill a man then go confess to a priest and they can still feel like a good person.
>>58247003
>protestant fantasising about catholic habits/values
Brazil is bro-tier. You are one of the most loved nacionalities in the world. Everyone thinks you're chill and cool dudes.
>>58247109
based texas. y-you too
>>58247070
Am I wrong? Catholics aren't exactly known for their consistency. Two posts up from mine is saying the exact same thing.
>>58247167
Just fuck the fuck up, really.
>>58247167
A lot of catholics here are "cultural" catholics. He's mostly talking about middle-class, not particularly religious people who never go to church or confess. I'm one of them.
>>58246531
>Compared to them, 19th century workers were very free.
I don't agree. But that's a digression, because socialists are pro-modernization. I'm not wanna be pushed into a conservative position. So I'll drop this subject.
>You seem to think that factorie workers were always extremely specialized...
That's the tendency of the capitalist system. The only way to stop workers from being reduced to dumb machines is some sort of regulation, and that's never going to be implemented willingly by the capitalists.
>democratic control
That's the socialism that I defend. If some people developed the idea of the "professional revolutionary" that's going to lead the masses to a bright future, that's not my responsibility. And yeah, that mindset is very similar to liberal-capitalist ideas.
>The capitalist may have 10000 more money than the worker, but does he consume 10000 the ammount of food? Of water? Cloth fabric?
That's probably the dumbest argument you have made today. The issue is not the difference in the amount of products that the capitalist and the worker consume. The issue is the control over ones own destiny, which involves having a say in the way business is conducted. You think there would be no reinvestment if workers controlled businesses? You think they can't plan ahead? As I suspected, you DO think people can't make their own decisions.
>>58247276
>The issue is the control over ones own destiny, which involves having a say in the way business is conducted
there are several collective, sometimes even privately owned cooperative businesses out there. Cooperativas. I studied them quite a bit in college. A lot of left wing people came up with them as an alternative, and that's during the military dictatorship. Ironically enbough, they were way more promoted by the government back then. They are not particularly effective, especially non-agrarian ones, and the most effective ones end up being effectively controlled by something like a board of directors, not like a democratic company owned by the workers.
I'm all for different types of businesses, but I'm also not blind. What you propose is far from effective, and is practically a pipe dream. Workers unions that organize themselves and try to negotiate salaries exist for a reason. Why don't you think powerful unions get together and try to open their own factories, etc? Can you guess why? Can you guess how risky is a business? How busy is for someone to make harsh decisions about productivity, salaries? Would said union end up promoting a manager to make such decisions? How would that more effective? Is everyone planning together? Can everyone make or decide on executive decisions effectively?
The liberal system allows for the experimentation of a lot of things, including alternative systems to capitalism. What marxists propose is a totalitarian system that destroys any other possibility other than socialism. It's autocratic by nature
>>58244711
No way; South Region is Argentina tier. Problem is, foreign migrants - especially those from German and Japan - were skilled workers who avoided the tropical (and touristy) States for being too hot, in times most "native" Brazilians were illiterate. When industry started to develop in the 30's, and between 1950/75, guess what States were chosen for building factories and corporate buildings? This creates cultural tension between "industrial/subtropical Brazil" and "touristy/tropical Brazil", and many of us doesn't know what is living in each other Brazilian "region".
I moved from São Paulo to Rio 8 years ago myself and feel like an Argentinian or Chilean in Nigeria or Cameroon. Local people sometimes even confuse me with a foreigner tourist because of my look - including petty criminals, touts, peddlers and tricky clerks/shopkeepers. I became a foreigner in my own country!
>>58247766
