Who wins in a war ?
>>58217464
the world
>>58217464
Kurvatska
>>58217464
Serbia reinstates arkan's tigers and remove Croatian kebab
>>58217464
Europe
Čavoglave
[Greater Serbia intensifies]
>>58217464
Italy pompously starts the war, cowardly almost loses it, then bravely joins the wining side
why wouldn't italy win?
they have an aircraft carrier, they're easily top 15 militaries in the world, maybe even top 10
Croatia doesn't even have any attack helicopters
>>58218023
Italians lost against the negroids of Ethiopia and Croatians are particularly known to be great warriors. Napoleon stated that Croatians were the strongest soldiers.
>>58218082
wikipedia says they crushed ethiopia and it was liberated by the allies during ww2
>>58218082
>>58218258
Also ethiopia is not exactly close to them, it would have been difficult to maintain supply lines, invading croatia would not be as hard
is this real?
All memes aside, is still european military power
>>58218409
Italy is still*
Is this even a question ?
>>58218325
He's referring to the first ethiopian war when some fucktard decided to send 10 thousand men against 100 thousand ethiopians so we lost, the second time we killed half a million of them with mustard gas and won
Real question, what does a manly Italian look like? I can't imagine an Italian "army", like what would it look like?
>>58218666
And i can't imagine a Canadian "army" but i guess we can both google it
>>58217464
Some fully loaded mangustas from north italy and it's done
>>58218666
brave italian soldier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdsKz_0JcQk
>>58219196
like this but with a fucking leaf on their shoulders
Gas isn't that bad
I may be utterly wrong on this, and its technically not related, but wasn't Italy prepared to help our embassy in the Benghazi Attack before ever our own military was or something?
Probably wrong as fuck but I've heard something like that
the italian army is one of the biggest, most advanced on the planet.
but of course retards on the internet like this little piece of trash here:
>>58218082
will still bring muh etiopian war from 5000 years ago
also protip: the first time we were incredibly outnumbered, the second time we wiped the niggers out. so not only your example is retarded, it's wrong too.
>>58217464
Is this even a question ?
>>58219230
>>58220243
ahahahahahahha
>>58219782
you are thinking of NATO not italy
>>58220343
t.useless country
>>58217464
Neither
>>58217464
we would genocide those shitters in less than one month
Italian-croat alliance comes out victorious
Croatia most likely. Italy can't win a war for shit.
>>58220377
I know NATO was prepared but I heard the italyns were especially prepared to help, I dunno
But anyways how are you today Luka
>>58218023
>Croatia doesn't even have any attack helicopters
we'll make some improvised attack helos just like we made improvised tanks and used them against Serbs and won
>>58220484
kek, best answer
>>58220616
>>58220616
pretty good, i had some original croatian pršut today
>>58220566
dubs confirm
Zlovenian Jews
Why do Italians even come her during summer? Their coast is 3 times bigger than our
>>58221056
because italian sea is full of shit and piss
>>58221056
here* cock shit fuck nigger keyboard
>>58220759
croatia has world famous arms industry
pic related croatian pistol used worldwide
>>58221183
we have a famous brand of AKs used worldwide but that doesn't mean our army isn't poor as fuck lmao
so is yours
italians might be shitty as fuck at fighting but they have a bigger military with better technology
>>58217464
it takes a couple of hours
>>58221183
Italy is one of the largest arms producers
Why doesn't Italy conquer the whole Europe like it did during Roman times?
>>58220759
jebi me ak ovo nije optimus prime u kamuflaži
>>58221421
>a bigger military
doesnt mean shit
quality>quantity every time
>better technology
objectivly wrong, croatian military technology is one of most advanced in the world
pic related RT-20 unique croatian gun non comparable with any other
>>58221776
>quality>quantity
>posting a random antimaterial rifle
>>58221776
w0w
>>58221869
>a random antimaterial rifle
>random
LEL another showing of italian ignorance when it comes to military
>The name itself is actually an acronym of the Croatian word Ručni Top 20, or "Handheld Cannon 20mm". Operating with a bolt action, it houses a single 20mm round and must be reloaded after each shot. Given its large caliber, it is one of the most powerful anti-materiel rifles currently in use by any country and is comparable to the South African Denel NTW-20 and the Indian Vidhwansak, with the difference being that the RT-20 is recoilless.
>>58217960
/thread
>>58221776
The Italian fleet would just block your ports and wait until your economy was totally crushed. It would be one of the easiest wars in history
>>58221869
>most powerful anti-materiel rifle in the world
>random
KEK
>>58220243
Two words: Nine Frenchmen.
>>58222013
>>58222069
Your army uses only antimaterial rifles?
>>58221631
Before Italy switches sides?
>>58222054
except croatian economy doesnt need ports to function at all (unlike italian who would starve without their shiteating fish)
>>58221776
>quality
despote the patriot act 'n shiet, USA buys Agusta helicopters.
>>58222150
Meant for >>58221609
>>58217464
Islam
Croatia should just befriend Ethiopia and checkmate.
>>58222245
IDK if we have enought mustard gas
>>58222054
croatian ports are mostly used by tourist cruisers, biggest imports come from germany by land
>>58222184
Yeah,90% of the world trade is done by sea, and Croatia is mainly a seacost,but I guess that you are somehow special. On top of that what % of your economy comes from tourism? How many people come by boat because the crusiers? You wouldnt last a month.
Italy has 12 times our population and one of the largest economies in Europe so they can win the war. It'd be hard to keep control though we'd probably engage in gorilla warfare.
Silly topic though, why would Italy ever attack us and why would the international community ever tolerate this?
>>58222377
An Italian economic embargo would wipe your economy in a matter of months
>>58222387
>90% of the world trade is done by sea,
lel so hungary czech republic slovakia austria etc dont have economy?
only like 1% of tourists come with crusiers it wouldnt mean anything
The Italians will pay the croats not to fight.
>>58222523
We mostly import food from Italy.
We can then just import more food from our neighbors in the east, or from you, or from Turkey.
>>58222557
>>58222523
Italy is your biggest trade partner m8. Dont be a retard. Germany,Slovenia,Austria and Russia are just 30% of your importers. As you may guess,the rest of Euro countries will probably trade with you by sea.
>>58222637
They also buy the most from you. Your economy would collapse. Just face it.
>>58222387
>>58222523
>using serious arguments in silly /int/ debate over imaginary would-be war
just how stupid are you Manuel?
Any side wants to buy some guns? Good product, tested in Georgia and Ukraine.
>>58222523
>>58222651
are you italian living in spain by any chance?
all those """important""" imports ( pasta and shoes) are easily replaceable, if anything italia would lose more
>>58222701
It's a completely stupid scenario that relies on the rest of the world and the very integrated EU economy to not exist anymore and to just ignore the conflict.
If Italy can attack us like that with absolutely no repercussions then the world is probably in a world wide conflict anyway so everyone's fucked either way.
>>58222758
>Italy's gdp:2 billion
>Croatia's GDP 50k million.
Italy is scared of your economic might....
>>58222902
There is no info. If we just assume that the EU remains neutral,Italy would just have to move their fleet and place and embargo and the war would be over
>>58217464
Croatia might be able to defend themselves but they wouldn't be able to do anything offensively
Italy cuz NATOcuck.
so what's the whole dealio with croatia being claimed as rightful clay of Italy? is it like the ethiopia thing where italians thought themselves black?
we are just too strong, its not even a question its answer
Croatia has strategic partnership with Argentina!
Also half the population is war veterans.
http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp
Check the meme list.
Croatia. Only people Italians can fight and win against are other Italians.
>>58223350
And Austria
>>58223278
Wut?
>>58222117
Correction: thirteen Frenchmen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge_of_Barletta
>>58222492
>why would Italy ever attack us
ISTRIA FIUME E DALMAZIA
NÉ SLOVENIA NÉ CROAZIA
>>58222492
>one of the largest economies
while admittedly big, italian economy is old and slow, less advanced and not flexible at all, in all out war they couldnt adjust from making homo shoes to real weapons, and their potential soldiers would mass immigrate to other countries
on other hand, croatia is fully prepared to turn its economy for war, as proven in 90s when agronomic machines factories were turned into tank factories, and croatian soliders are one of most patriotic and zealous, not only in independence from yugoslavia war, but recently in ukraine war too
pic related, water tower in vukovar, hit by grandes over 600 times
>>58222724
>doesn't have an counter-argument
>"wow tryhard much lol sorry i have a life"
Literally leftist liberal arts student tier
>>58223861
>le italy makes only pasta and shoes
>>58217464
>Le surrender monkey meme is myth! WW2 only, France best army of all time!
>Lol, Italy sucks, worst army of all time, just look at WW2 hoh hoh hoh
Be consistent, you filthy frogs
>>58217464
the jews
>>58223861
how the fuck can you hold on to "pasta country" this much.
the biggest military company outside US is finmeccanica.
your stupid shithole gets rekt in a single day
>>58217464
Croatia
>>58222724
croatia and portugal are historical allies and present partners, more likely to ally with each other than italy
http://dubrovacki.hr/clanak/55034/croatia-to-send-canadair-planes-to-portugal
http://www.croatiaweek.com/ccroatia-and-portugal-sign-convention-on-avoiding-double-taxation/
http://www.media-marketing.com/en/news/croatian-agency-managing-lidls-advertising-in-portugal/
http://www.cvs-mobile.hr/2015/11/cvs-mobile-as-a-part-of-the-1-fleet-alliance-in-lisbon-portugal-november-2-2015/
pic related, croatian plane helping portugal
Serious answer?
Italy wins but can't subjugate nothing but Dalmazia.
But it's a retarded scenario anyway, we are on good terms with Croatia and they respect the Italians still living there. I'm sure they like us as well.
>>58224090
>In 2011 the company faced accusations that it had created slush funds with which to bribe politicians and chairman Pier Francesco Guarguaglini came under investigation. He denied any wrongdoing but, following pressure from Prime Minister Mario Monti, he stepped down from his post on 1 December receiving a golden handshake of 4 million Euros.[8][9] The company suffered losses, and share price dwindled.[10]
>According to Finmeccanica emails published in the Syria Files release by WikiLeaks on 5 July 2012,[11] Finmeccanica increased its sale of mobile communications equipment to Syrian authorities during 2011, delivering 500 of these to the Damascus suburb Muadamia in May 2011,[12][13] after the Syrian uprising had started, and sending engineers to Damascus in February 2012 to provide training in using the communications equipment in helicopter terminals,[14] while the uprising continued.[15] Finmeccanica stated that the equipment sales were legal, they occurred "before the outbreak of conflict inside Syria", and the equipment "was designed for use by emergency responders" for civilian use only.[15]
>It was reported on 12 February 2013 that the chief executive, Giuseppe Orsi, was arrested on corruption charges. Prosecutors allege he paid bribes to ensure the sale of 12 helicopters to the Indian government, when he was head of the group's AgustaWestland unit.[16][17]
kek you have to bribe India to sell them those amazing helicopters
meanwhile croatian military equipment is famous for its quality around the world
>Another global player performing well on the world stage is military equipment producer Šestan-Busch. In 2013 the Prelog-based manufacturer exported around 60,000 helmets to 16 countries. The firm has now exported more than 600,000 helmets to over 50 countries and has a 120 million euro contract to produce 160,000 helmets for Iraq over the next 2 years.
>>58217464
Italy has TWO aircraft carriers
Italy has 347,927 personnel in their armed forces
Italy has 545 aircraft
Croatia has 30.500 personnel in armed forces
Croatia has 94 aircraft (mostly bullshit, logistical and fire fighting )of wich 12 MIG 21 in shitty-barely-flying shape
_____
They would destroy our economy in about a month with their bombing.
If they land they will probably get worse than guerilla-vietnam-iraq-afganistan scenario.
They better not land because Croats would stop at nothing to beat them, including striking at the Rome itself. I would personally volunteer to be part of guerilla and kill me some Italians if they invade.
They would end the war before we do because they would lose popular support fast after body bags come home.
They better not land.
we would never war friendly Croatia.
>wanting to see whites kill each other
Fuck off with this trash.
>>58225795
>guaranteed replies
>>58223020
as already stated croatian economy doesnt relay on sea trade at all, in worst case scenario, croatian military would activate old undersea mines and destroy that fleet in couple of minutes
>>58220243
>also protip: the first time we were incredibly outnumbered
Spaniards, Portuguese, even fucking Brits can do it
Who invades looses.
Italian armed forces would invade, few car bombs and mines etc will blow up few of their soldiers and Italians will leave.
Oh, and random government places in Milano, Torino and Rome are getting blown up too.
It would be like Afghanistan but with more capable opposition with engineering knowledge (expect suicide-drone attacks on their cities and other shit). Meanwhile Italy would get the flack diplomatically because they are the invaders with 250k troops in Croatia trying to hold it.
Nonsense war.
>>58226098
he forgot to mention that they also had guns, artillery and support from Russia, something that people often forget
Sardinia
>>58226251
Strong
>>58226153
Oh well, that's way more difficult, then
No one wins because deep down inside we're all Serbia.
>>58225575
100% right, you can simply go in guerrilla mode and we are fucked, army vs. army an easy win for us
