How do Russians and Finns feel about their Mongol heritage?
>>58167341
They have Brazialian heritage too apparently according to your picture.
>>58167341
Tfw pure light blue MS ;)
Don't know about Russians but I'm proud of it
>>58167341
My fucking face when Korenas and Japanese are litterally the same people
>>58167341
How does one read this shit?
What does it even mean...?
>>58167341
>>58167341
It just exists.
>>58168213
>>58168199
Wow, the average /int/ user must have an IQ of 65
>>58168527
What does IQ even mean?
>>58168527
ikr
Explain now
It's not Mongol heritage, but I'm proud of the top 1 percentile European admixture, yes.
>>58168700
You can see that some ethnicities have 100% or enarly 100% of a color, if you have yellow for example you have some East Asian blood, green is Native American (especially native Brasilians), blue is caucaois (Italians like Sardinians have the most of it), orange is Sub Saharian African, Red is Khoi San I believe or maybe Pigmey, check the name of the group which has the most and you'll know, purople is Oceanian hunter gatherer AKA Papuan.
>>58168934
Well, thanks
>>58168934
The ironic thing is that a 100% West Eurasian Mesolithic European probably wouldn't get 100% blue. It's because the blue component is biased for modern populations with high middle easterness.
>>58169026
What would they get senpai?
>>58169083
In K=6 probably something eastern to compensate for the fact that Mesolithic Europeans and Mesolithic Siberians were closer to East Asians.
>>58167341
Atleast add the meaning of the colors
Same study, but in K=20 form.
>>58169169
Sardinians and Basques are both almost identically blue though despite Basques being something like 40% HG.
>>58167341
fin-rus rap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtMFFkkQa14
>>58169354
Why are Mongols so fucking scary?
>>58169348
Well, be as it may, that's how it would behave if you made it analyze ancient samples alongside more modern ones.
>>58169283
How come Russians have North west African DNA?
>being related to mayans and eskimos is a bad thing
>>58169477
That's siberian, you colorblind or what
>>58167341
Mongol and proud. Our country is literally a descendant of the Golden Horde.
>>58169507
Eskimos and Mayans are both East Asian+Siberian+ANE to be precise. We can't be related to them directly because we lack the East Asian.
>>58169585
Well fug.
There goes the last claim to fame.
>>58169585
Pretty sure that we have more recent East Asian heritage than Native Americans
>>58169283
Mesilithocs euros and ANE aren't the same thing though, are they?
>>58169578
Pls dont be stupid. Most of russian slaves were taken further into ther horde almost to china. Cases of racemixing were not nationwide. This meme has to end.
>>58169818
>t. mongol rapebaby
>>58169764
No we don't. The Finnish Siberian is very old, probably from the Neolithic period.
Some measurements even put the Siberian in Volga Finnics and North Russians coming from a different (more recent) source.
http://dienekes.blogspot.fi/2015/09/recent-admixture-in-contemporary-west.html
>>58168934
Not even sure, there is no fucking legend.
Diagrams without legends can die in peace.
>>58169764
Too bad your personal misguided opinion is worthless.
>>58169948
O____________O
>>58169905
Native Americans have been isolated for about 20k years. There was migration from East Asia into Siberia after that.
European haplogroup N-TAT seems to have its roots in East Asia around 15k years ago.
https://www.yfull.com/tree/N/
>>58170067
he's right though, it could mean literally anything without an legend.
>>58169975
Yea, Karitianans are 30-39% ANE, the rest is East Asian. There is no way what he said is true.
>>58170103
O_____________________________O
>>58167341
>She
Shitlord spotted. Go spread your bi-genderism somewhere else, in Nazi Germany for example.
>>58170135
Fucking retarded.
>>58170163
No comment.
>>58167341
>Jew
>genetics
Into the toxic waste container it goes.
>>58170105
I said more recent, not more.
>>58170073
Thanks for the info, but there is no East Asian in any Europeans besides a few Russians.
>>58170231
Depends on the definition used. If there's no East Asian in us then there's none in Native Americans either because they were isolated prior to our East Asian ancestors colonizing Siberia.
>>58170224
There is no recent of East Asian into Europe though. Besides, like I said, the Siberian in Finnish is most likely from the Neolithic times from a highly specific source (Bolshoy Oleni Ostrov).
Y-DNA N is not relevant to this discussion, there isn't even any evidence that the men carried much eastern DNA on them.
>>58170201
Yes, comment you fucking retard.
If you did analytics at one time you'd have to learn how to read scientifical stuffs.
It begins with the fucking legend.
Niggers.
>>58170340
The Native American ancestors would have picked up admixture from the ancestors of East Asians prior to crossing over to the Americas, which was not present in the Fennoscandian Siberians.
The difference of these components comes clear already here.
>>58169905
>>58169283
>>58170493
It doesn't change the fact that we have more recent East Asian ancestry than Native Americans no matter how little it is since the Native American types and the ANE types were blanda upped by East Asians by the Neolithic.
>>58167341
Firthy ries, Finrand is not and never wirr be mongorian
>>58170685
It's not East Asian to be specific. It would be unscientific to label it from a "sino" source.
>the ANE types were blanda upped by East Asians by the Neolithic.
Well, clearly not, since it's present in Europe.
>>58170853
it's not present*
>>58170853
Why would it be unscientific?
Feel good being part of mongolian master race
>>58171049
Duh? Because to unravel population genetic history you have to be specific about the sources of influence.
We can't go around pulling human migration waves out of our asses and rewriting history as we see fit.
>>58171201
I think you've already decided that the eastern admixture in Finns is something that suits your personal feelings instead of what it actually is.
>>58170413
You have eyes I bet, but no brain to USA them.
>>58171378
>accusing your opponent of the very same thing you are guilty of
The reason the Mongol theories are failing decade by decade is because our level of knowledge is growing. We will soon be able to highly specify sources of influence and recreate ethnogenesis on paper.
>>58171536
Sure we'll definitely know when the East Asian influence arrived in Siberia and Europe in the future but I don't see any reason why the East Asian admix in Finns would turn out to be statistical noise or whatever you think it is.
>>58171805
East Asian introgression in Siberia isn't relevant to Finnish history, what's going to become relevant to our history is what human remains from Karelia, Estonia and possibly Lappland will show in time.
>the East Asian admix in Finns
Theere is no East Asian admix in Finns, the reason it is labeled so on some websites is because of lazyness and unwillingness to assess the history of the eastern Eurasian half of the landmass. They simply lump into one mass like K=6 does for most of Middle Easterners and WHGs up there.
>>58171938
Yet you described Native Americans as 2/3 East Asian.
>>58172087
There isn't anything to "assess" on the American continent, because humans haven't lived there for nearly as long as in Eurasia.
They went in already admixed, with the exception of the possibility that there is some Australo-Melanese admixture in South American Injuns.
>>58172246
You're taking it as a fact that they are 2/3 East Asian because you have no emotional investment in them but insist on a separate origin for the eastern admixture in Finns.
>>58172482
Oh, you are certainly correct that the absolute nature of the eastern admixture in Native Americans is not certain, but what's it go to do with Finns who received influence from a very different time and place?
>>58167341
well
at least we are somewhat mongoloid.
>>58172664
My opinion is that this eastern influence in Finns came from partially the same source as them and partially from a more recent one associated with the colonization of Siberia and later NE Europe during Comb-Ceramic period by haplogroup N men from China who introduced pottery there. I'll change my mind if I see some convincing evidence.
>>58173050
That's all fair and fine, but you are still embarrassingly wrong about there being non-Siberian sources of East Eurasian admixture in Finns. Where haplogroups came from originally isn't super relevant either, we have a very diverse mtDNA profile too but nobody puts so much emotional investment into their distant origins.
>the same source as them and partially from a more recent one
There are no two different ones, unless you go nitpicking over the details like Siberian vs. Siberian in Finns and Volgic people.
>>58171938
>>58171536
What about Seima-Turbino phenomenon and Comb-Ceramic culture that both range from Finland to East Asia? There has to be some migration involved
>>58173487
Siberians are nothing but a mixture of various genetic components and that has been the case for a long time.
