All russian "inventions" are just rip offs
Prove me wrong
Same concept but I heard they're different internally
>>58014225
I agree
>>58014225
Bolt and shit operate differently, famigger
>>58014225
>honorary mentions of the losers
Never heard of 'em
same concept
kalas was laying in bed in a hospital when he came up with the idea
>>58014225
Just like "american" inventions. All their fighters, bombers and missiles not to mention space program can thank german tech.
All relevant """american""" inventions are made by europeans.
>>58014372
RARE
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>>58014569
The german guy whi invented thatbweapon lived ten years in russia in the factory with kalshnikov
It was his idea, kalashnikov is just russian mascot
>>58014225
They have different mechanism
>>58014225
>If it looks the same it must be the same
>I know nothing about guns, the post
You should now better Czechia
>>58014225
This meme will never die. Fucking wehraboos.
>>58015566
You win
>>58014970
Orthodox turk defending orthodox mongol
Nothing new
>>58014659
come to aruba
post your cunt's AK rip off
>>58015785
GAYlil
>>58014225
Only thing stolen was the concept. Internal mechanism was different.
That said, the US and USSR space programs, aircraft, all that jazz was stolen from the krauts.
>>58015785
>>58015785
Galil is a ripoff of our AK ripoff, you sneaky jew
Gib royalties merchant
>>58014225
I'm not a gun enthusiast, but isn't the unique thing about the AK the fact that its action is gas-powered? Is this correct, and is that other gun the same?
>>58015875
>the US and USSR space programs, aircraft, all that jazz was stolen from the krauts
>stolen
It was given to us by the krauts. That's what happens when a cunt expels their Jews.
>>58014225
Even Scots stole kilts from Roman solders so nobody care copying the best is a sign of Civilization.
>>58015945
>I'm not a gun enthusiast
>its action is gas-powered
>>58015927
>>58015927
artually our ak is a rip off of and rip off ak known as Type-56
Specifically Type-56-II
>>58015999
We wanted a world without nukes, but the lizard merchant thought otherwise and wanted to develop nuclear weapons. We tried to stop them and tried to make the world a better place. But the eternal anglo stopped us and made nuclear weapons happen. This is all your fault.
>>58016043
What are you implying? I grew up in the rural midwest, so I know about and have experience with firearms. I'm just not a muh rights/muh sekkint menmint dweeb who sits around obsessing over this shit.
Can someone answer my question, please?
>>58016201
>made nuclear weapons happen. This is all your fault.
I see no problem.
nothing wrong with improving an existing design
>>58015712
>nogunz dodging the point
>>58016326
Are there any other changes except the bigger clip?
>>58015999
>deport jews
>invent loads of shit
>jews get jelly
>jews invade and steal everything
>"oy vey jews make the world go round goys!"
>>58014225
The only thing in common between these two rifles if that they are both gas-operated.
>>58016677
> clip
>>58014372
rare
>>58015785
Don't have one here, but here's a picture of our service rifle in 2462; the M16A92.
>>58016201
wut... You made extreme long range amerikabombers so you could bomb washington with radioactive dirty bombs.
And the only reason you didn't get nukes first was cause your scientists didn't sell the whole massive explosion pitch well enough so the army expected the bombs to be much weaker and thus not worth the investment.
>>58016749
You cannot possibly be this stupid, so I'm going to assume that you're trolling
>>58016315
>>58015945
Both guns are gas-powered.
Gas-powered reloading mechanism of automatic firearms wasn't even that new an idea when the first notable assault rifle was made by the germans (the other gun, known as STG 44).
They weren't even subtle about it.
>>58016841
Uhm... V2s, huckebeins, d-/swept wings, ARs, night vision/IR, all the auschwitz medical science stuff, good jet engines, TOWs, remote guidance, a fuckin space program, proper subs, standardization (granted that was in turn stolen from the soviets), etc etc etc
It was an intentional leak. The U.S. realized it had wasted fuckloads of money on a shit project. So a common tactic was employed; leak it to the russians, see what they do different, try to steal it back and make a more efficient, less costly version.
The russians weren't that enthusiastic and shut the project down when the union got unstable, which is understandable since the space shuttle was shit for anything but serious space colonization (which is what it was planned for, regular and frequent shuttle missions)
>>58014225
I'll just leave this here.
>>58016962
All of which we claimed and perfected. I don't see how that's stealing.
>>58017052
So if you break into someones house and steal their finished drawings for a new car and start mass producing said car, claiming it as your own, with the real designer not even being able to sue you cause you bashed him into a coma with a baseball bat on your way out, you would consider all that not stealing, and the genius new car you're making is all thanks to you?
>>58017027
>reusable space-worthy aircraft
>shit project
OK famalam. The russians weren't the ones to get the damn things into orbit and return them safely back onto the ground again.
Besides, I don't think we were the ones doing the 'stealing' in that exchange.
>>58017036
Why do Russian troops steal Poland???????
>>58017143
More like I broke into his house, stabbed him to death with the help of my friend Ivan, and then took the drawings. It's not stealing because the bastard's already dead.
>>58015785
>Czechian education
>>58014225
>>58017185
>1.5bn usd per launch
>shit payload
>lower stage destroyed on launch anyway
>terrible fail stats
>outclassed in every way by a little tin can which is still in use today
>>58014970
/thread
>>58017384
We're getting into ass pulling territory, so I'll stop here. The only reason the shuttle program was slashed was because NASA had it's balls cut off in the early 90s, which is the same reason we're still using the russkies' expensive little tin cans today.
>>58017618
Nuh the program was a failure from the start since it was planned out for a much, much more extensive space program.
If you guys had gone through with your planned space ports and Mars missions and all that to continue to the space race it would have cut some costs but the reason it was slashed was it was simply not reasonable to try to maintain an unstable and bizarrely costly (due to the low launch to development rate) launch platform that only makes sense if you try to build a space port.
>>58016962
>24 Hour service life jet engine
>Good
>>58017855
You do know that was due to material shortages? They drew up the Ta-183 which later became the MiG, F-series, SAAB series etc, which, had materials been available, in 1945 would have been a swept wing transsonic jet aircraft with radio guided air to air missiles with automatic airburst detonation when within kill range. This aircraft would escort half-stealthy delta wing strike aircraft and trans-atlantic jet bombers later called 'B-52's. Sounds like what the U.S. did anyway? Yes. Because they just pressed print on the kraut drawings.
>>58017384
>landed on the moon
>outclassed in every way by a little tin can which is still in use today
Sweden PLEASE! You're embarrassing yourself!
>>58018377
We're talking about the shuttle vs the soyuz m8
>>58017384
>>58017790
>>58018188
>the mental gymnastics people will go through to deny American innovation
It's an innovation in and of itself desu
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