>you're cuntREEEEE
>Are you manual masterrace or an automatic cuck?
I drive manuals so I can be like rally drive driver :DDDDD
i learnt on a manual but driving is pretty stressful
You don't need manual if you're not a racer or drive a 4x4 in the forrest. As well as a car that goes faster than 90 km/h or whatever your outside city speed limit is.
>>57590066
automatic cuck
Nobody has automatic here. Only faggots, Americans and women even think about driving automatics.
I wish I had an automatic car, Changing gears every time is the most annoying thing
>>57590066
Manual is more fun
Auto-manual is best performing but most expensive for maintenance
Automatic is simplest and probably best in dense urban conditions and when built right, like the old american truck transmissions, the cheapest to maintain
>tfw learned on manual
>first two cars were manual
>bought a w205 C400 2 months ago
>never looked back
Seriously, it's just as much fun as a my manual cars were and super comfy too. Especially in fucking traffic jams.
>>57590066
I prefer to dive manual, but it's a bitch to drive in heavy traffic
>country is too poor to roll out with superior automatic transmissions
>stuck with manual shifting like cave men did in their cars
>somehow feel superior for this
If I ever leave this shithole ill get a manual.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGtmkq7826I
fucking plebs
https://youtu.be/8By2AEsGAhU
>>57592146
Same goes for driving 30+ over the limit vs driving at the speed limit.
manual is nice.
Automatic since there's no point driving a manual hatchback. If I ever got a sports car I would definitely get a manual.
>>57590245
>>57590302
>>57590310
>>57590728
>>57590813
>>57591116
>>57591304
>>57591353
>>57592387
pathetic.
>>57590455
>>57591162
>>57591430
>>57591480
>>57592146
>>57592327
good lads.
ONLY reason to get anything with an automatic transmission is if it's a HIGH performance car, and since we're on 4chan....
>>57592436
Why do you need manual?
>>57592546
it's nice to be in control / involved with driving (even if all clutches have synchros these days.)
cheaper servicing.
masterrace.
honestly, I would only consider getting an automatic if it had paddle-shift &/or I lived in a city like London. aka richfag.
>>57592436
Literally the opposite is true. There's no skill required to driving a shitbox.
If your car is so awful that it needs push starting regularly then I'd agree with you.
>>57592688
>it's nice to be in control
You can drive up to 60 km in the city. Modern automatic can handle extreme situations on this speed.
>cheaper servicing
True. But it's a question of money, not quality.
>masterrace
Empty word. It's like having a 'fast' Ferrari but you never really accelerate if you don't wanna wrap a tree with your body and be fined.
>>57592705
No, it's really not. Most drivers can't keep up with the shifts required for an EXTREMELY high performance car, OR an automatic gearbox can do better. That calls for an automatic gearbox (manual selection of gears likely still applies, but not actually depressing the clutch etc.)
I had one (1) automatic car. The only pleasure I derived from driving it was driving it like a go-kart with one foot on each pedal, lel.
Anyone else drove an automatic for the first time and breaked like a motherfucker when they wanted to change gear?
Manual, never even tried an automatic though
So little traffic where I live that automatic doesnt seem necessary
>>57592902
yuppp!
>>57592871
>driving in a city
literally why, and that's one of the qualifications I gave as a legitimate reason for owning own. Personally if I lived in snow-nigger land though I'd value the control gear-selection gave me regardless.
>Empty word
First off, high performance cars are mostly automatic. Secondly, no it's not. The PC lads are involved with gaming/building, as real petrol/gear heads are with driving. I'm somewhere between, truthfully, but prefer manual for 99% of situations. Especially in lower-performance cars, where the gearbox is likely to be shit anyway and shift in ways I wouldn't want it to, even if you press the """S""" button and have your foot flat.
Either way we should be glad we are still allowed to drive the way society and technology is going...
>>57592871
Just to extrapolate on my point in >>57593103 re masterrace: There's people that drive from necessity, and people that drive for ENJOYMENT. I'm not big into tinkering with engines and shit, but I definitely fall into the latter camp. I did a driving ban at one point and it broke my heart.
>>57592902
Had to sit on my left leg to stop myself from trying to use it
>>57592436
>less moving parts = less breakdown expense
>lower insurance rates
>less chance for human error, thus much safer
>woman friendly
>drunkard friendly(er)
>no need for archaic hand brake
>more gas efficient
>First World™ technology
I personally prefer manual just because it feels better but it's purely novelty and there's no reason to still be using MT outside of that novelty. It's outdated engineering by now.
>rev matching
>heel and toe
>fucking double clutching
and auto fags claim they have driven a car
I don't have a license
>>57590066
We only really have manuals here, so.. manual.
Automatic. It's just normal to us. There will never be a time in my life when I need to drive stick. When I went to Ireland and rented they gave me an auto.
Speaking of Ireland why were there so many crossovers in Dublin? Like sante fe's and stuff. Seems kind of retarded for those small streets.
>>57593195
No: the post. If I lived on your continent tho, I'd probably drive a paddle-shift AT, due to availability/cost vs a manual. You are also literally country: the example, of what I said >>57593103 RE people driving out of necessity or enjoyment. Explains the number of them on the road anyway.
>>57593204
THIS.
>>57593310
can you explain "crossover" to me lad?
>>57593395
Google image "crossover car". Basically half suv hald sedan half half minivan. Shit a mom with to much money would buy.
>he can't do both
Plebs, the lot of you
>>57593504
oh lol, yeah you just described the why perfectly. Dublin is quite a wealthy city desu. They're yummy mummy (aka soccer mom) vehicles.
Manual
>>57590066
>USA USA USA USA
>Manual
What irritates me isn't that most American use autotragics, it's that they're legally allowed to drive manuals after passing their license test in an autotragic. It makes no sense.
>>57593512
>implying you're not in the minority of your country/continent that car
spoiler: anybody that can drive a manual can also drive an automatic
>>57590066
I'm an automatic cuck at hearth, specially since my dad had to change his manual car to an automatic car because of a knee problem and what not. Then again, when I was going to buy my first car I wanted to buy and automatic car, but, the automatic version of the one I wanted had 3100 cc while the manual version had 2000 cc, I bought the manual versions because of the fuel.
>>57593627
Imma rent a car in your country next month. It's a manual.
I got my license without ever even driving a car!!!! Can't wait for the autobahn!
>>57593635
>left-side-of-the-road drivers in charge of driving practices
>>57593752
I don't mind you killing yourself, I just hope you take no one else with you.
>>57593627
it makes no sense, till you realise the differences: Firstly they HAVE to drive, because you have to drive to get anywhere. Secondly, it's a country built around roads not the other way around - look at their MASSIVE lanes etc. Also nobody is likely to buy a manual unless they're a very good/enthusiast driver by Murikan standards anyway.
Basically we have a much higher standard of drivers in this continent either way. On our side of this continent anyway... Not sure about the Southerners (or French, who seem to adopt that mentality.)
>>57593764
>implying British drivers aren't elite world class, along with Germany and Scandinavia, if you aren't from these countries: You aren't entitled to question our skills.
>>57593852
When I drive an automatic it feels like I'm driving a toy car.
>mfw manual cucks can't afford automatic
>mfw manual cucks pretend they're some high octane race car driver in their little shit box
>>57593882
me too. Driving it like a go-kart with one foot on each pedal is the way to go :DD
>>57593905
>mfw Murikans are shit, shit drivers: Greek tier
>mfw manuals are MORE expensive in your country because you're too lazy to learn to drive :D
also
>implying I'm not a high octane racing driver in my little shit box. Spoiler: at least it can corner.
>>57590066
>Canada
>Auto
I've owned two cars both automatic, I have no preference to transmission and manuals are generally few and far between here so i went for the best conditioned vehicle with the least Kilometeres
>>57593103
>Either way we should be glad we are still allowed to drive the way society and technology is going...
Not everybody has good public transportation like England, m8.
>>57593178
>drive for ENJOYMENT
I can agree on that.
>>57594034
A large portion of drivers in the USA drive with both feet, unironically.
>>57593905
Actually the real reason manuals are more common here is because they allow for more effective utilization of the narrower power band of smaller engines. Autotragics would constantly shift into RPM ranges that are completely weak and useless. I'm not sure how well your American brain can comprehend this considering all the cars in your country have massive wasteful engines whose autotragics simply set the rpm at 2000 and blubber away and that you might start blubbering more nonense, too, but I thought I'd tell you anyway.
>>57594219
Out of curiousity whats the average engine displacement in Deustchland?
>>57594166
>mfw an American confuses the pedals, crashes into something and then sues the manufacturer for technical malfunctions
Seriously, how DO you manage to drive this badly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsTiPhcaeus
>>57594324
1.8 liters.
>>57594335
Every single tim hortons in my town has been crashed into by an old person mistaking the gas for the brake. I swear people over 60 should be tested every year.
>>57590066
>convenience and efficiency is now considered cuckoldry in this shitty site
why do I still come here?
>>57594324
not him (obvs) but average probably 2L
taking into account a lot of 1.0-1.6 and then much larger more powerful engines. Also >>57594219 dude this is a really good point. I think Canada are mostly automatic by proximity - their petrol is pretty expensive / european tier tbqh.
>>57594335
TOYOTA MADE ME DO IT!
>>57594401
How about you test people when they get their license in the first place?
>>57594454
They don't do that in Florida.
>>57594454
KEK. He has a point tho. Elderly have mounted the pavement and killed people recently this year twice. I think this a problem we'll have to deal with with our aging populations.
>letting your car decide which gear it's on
how can someone be this much of a cuck l m a o
>>57594371
Neat, i thought it would be smaller. I couldn't really give a fair comparison as half the people in my town own a 5.7l v8 / diesel pickup truck or a foreign econo car with a 2.5l
>>57594454
They do test people, Although not to the unnessesacry extremes as your Country.
i do not drive because i'm a good citizen and i use the public transport
>>57594530
>eco
>2.5L
I thought petty was expensive there? How much is it a L/gallon?
>>57594573
>unnessesacry
but seriously.. spelling aside, you're in control of a multiple tonne killing machine..
>>57593195
>Americans are _literally_ too retarded to drive manual: The post
>>57594573
>unnecessary
Without our licensing and inspection "unnecessities" such a thing as the Autobahn would be an impossibility. Enjoy your 120 kph.
>>57594504
Fucking kek
>>57590066
Only yuropoors drive manual, and then they lie themselves into believing it's actually superior.
Anyone who has ever driven both will tell you that there is no feeling like the relief you feel when you drive automatic for the first time
>>57594704
what are some nice autobahn stretches? seriously, every bit of autobahn I went on.. Go to rag it.. Hit fucking roadworks and shit.
>>57594786
There is no feeling of relief. In fact I find it more unsettling than driving a manual because I never know what gear I'm in, therefore I can't match the engine tone at certain RPMs to certain speeds, therefore I constantly have to take my eyes off the road to check the speedometer. Also on longer auto journeys my left foot tends to go numb.
>>57593752
>Imma rent a car in your country next month. It's a manual.
>'How hard can it be, rite?'
>>57594166
literally wanted to post this:
>>57594335
>Retard has a foot on each pedal
>Something happens
>Stomp both feet
>Crash
>Get out of court settlement from manufactuter on damage control
>Every
>Single
>Time
>>57594848
I can't tell, m8. I consider my region rather nice because the east gets road funding up its ass so the road surface is good quality, also the population density is lower and heavy traffic doesn't seem as commonplace, but then again I simply don't know what it's like elsewhere because I never leave the east.
>>57594643
Gas in my town is currently sitting at around .96$ / Litre for the cheap stuff
>2.5L
Yea lots of people drive crossovers but also the usual civics and corollas with there 1.8 engines
>unnessesacry
Im not an expert in German road laws but does is it not extremely expensive and time consuming process? here in Canada if you don't drive you can't go anywhere and that includes work. Maybe with better public transport that could be avoided.
>>57594973
Ahh. I've only really driven in NRW. Might explain it :3
I'd love, love, love to drive a fast car and open her up (legally) on a motorway. Fastest I've been is 140mph (not sure in kph) it's c r a y.
>>57594704
Ugh this. I couldn't imagine half the cars in the USA safely operating above 100 kph, let alone 200.
>>57594704
Im sure its great and all, i would love if everyone had racecar driver type training but that is not realistically feasible here.
>>57594219
This. The car I drive has 1000 glorious CCs. You don't want a slushbox when you need to merge onto a highway in that..
>>57595029
Is that before or after sales tax?
>>57595029
Oh that's quite cheap then, I thought it was more like 2 dollars a litre.
And yeah, stuff in Germany (or indeed here - Germany is stricter) is more complicated, probably, but I'm not versed on what you have to go through. As you said tho, everybody has to drive to get anywhere.
>>57595100
thats why you mate that slushbox to a v8, blows past piddly hatchbacks
It's not 1970 anymore. Automatics are just as efficient as manual and there is no real reason to continue using manual besides being a Luddite. Do you still crank your engine to start it? Why not? How unmanly.
>>57595117
after, keep in mind our dollar is much weaker than yours
>>57595164
>implying automatics literally haven't become "nearly" as efficient in manuals in the past 10 years
>implying manuals still aren't cheaper to produce and service
>>57595029
>here in Canada if you don't drive you can't go anywhere and that includes work.
Weird sentiment.. Same as the Americans have.
>But those poor potentially lethal imbeciles.. Where would they be if we didn't allow them to drive huge machines without proper training?
Srsly. If driving culture here was the same as in North America all of our cyclists would be killed. Literally all of them.
>My gfs aunt _literally_ checking facebook and shit while driving in the US
>mfw
>the swerving
Though I suppose the lanes tend to be wide enough..
>>57594693
Yet you fucktards can't handle our highways
>>57595129
Germany has pretty strict car checkups, but most European countries have something of the like. Britian has this really weird really expensive insurance system, right? That's the impression I got from Top Gear and British police shows anyway..
>seriously living in the stone age
>>57595187
We don't have a dollar. Also that's still half as expensive as it is here.
>>57595283
It's just a cloverleaf... Big deal. Knicca we bend the elements and seas to make roads if needed..
>>57590066
Automatic master race. I can drive manual but it just adds another thing to driving that I can instead have the car do for me. I don't care about driving being "fun" though. My car is just a tool to transport myself.
>>57595283
More like Americans are too retarded to merge on a space saving, resource saving cloverleaf so every direction needs its own bridge.
>>57595314
no, we have MOT and stuff, but German requirements are stricter.
You pay a road-tax (£0 for electrics --> £200-odd for hungry-beasts) per year, any car older than 3 years needs an MOT (safety check) yearly.
Insurance depends on what cover you want and stuff. For a 17 year old boy in a 1.1L car it's probably £2000 / year, for me that would cover a Ferrari (even with my drink-driving ban)
>>57595324
>now
being the key qualifier. And that's only VERY recently. Still far easier to produce and service. You're just rich, lazy cunts, let's be real.
>>57595431
MOT can't be that bad if the UK has road legal jet cars and road legal Hammerhead Eagle i-Thrusts.
>>57595263
Its not like you turn 16 and the DMV mails you a licence,
In Ontario you apply for your G1(written test) which allows you to drive ( with lots of limitations) with a licenced driver accompanying you. After 6 months of that you get the G2, (driving exam) Which allows you to drive by yourself (with limitations) and practice safe driving and Highway driving. Then you finally can apply for your G or full licence which you must take another road exam( with hwy driving).
If you are really bad you will keep failing,
>>57595350
The Euro?
>>57595516
lol, nah that's what I'm saying, it's much less than Germany requirements. I'm only aware of them vaguely from going to the Ring. I'm not sure we were strictly legal with your emissions and safety and shit, but yolo.
Also there are exceptions for random shit like your pic. We are a nation of shed-dwelling inventors like yourselves (with less of an authoritarian streak) after all :^)
>using a manual transmission
top kek, do you start your car with a hand crank and drive on wooden wheels too?
>car connected to the internet
>still shifting gears in place with a fucking stick
You guys are the worst.
>>57590066
I own one of each
I used to own a manual. Switched to auto. I kind of miss manual, but it's also nice not shifting every 30 seconds because of traffic being shit.
>>57595590
>Do you still tie your shoelaces? Why not velcro, bro?
>>57595583
Would this be legal?
made from a ww2 bren carrier and old pickup truck
>>57590066
Manual but the car I'm shopping for next only comes with DSG
>>57595533
I'm sure the reality of it is easier than here, but the procedure sounds far more complicated and lengthy. Here you just take a dozen theoretical classes with an instructor, pass a multiple choice test, take a minimum of a dozen practical lessons (though the average is around 20) with an instructor and pass your driving exam. You can get this done in under two months if you have enough time to spare. The only difference for new drivers is that they get higher fines and have a zero drunk driving limit in the first two years.
>>57595656
you didn't attach the pic, but sure, if you can meet the DVLA requirements (they would need to inspect it) and find somebody to insure you. Obviously for your daily driver.. that might be difficult.
>>57595637
lol gud post
>>57595637
Are you telling me that Euros don't wear velcro shoes?
>you're cuntREEEEE
Cunt related
>Are you manual masterrace or an automatic cuck?
Manuel, of course.
>>57595710
That doesnt sound so bad, How expensive is it? Here most people take a driving school of sort to practice before taking the test (not mandatory though) Also here its zero tolerance for anyone under 22. The ability to get your licence in two months is amazing as we have the mandatory waiting times as i listed.
>>57595500
Why do you think driving stick is hard? It took me all of 30 minutes to learn. It has nothing to do with being lazy nor rich.
Like here, do you shave with one of these? You only need one, it lasts for several lifetimes, and it gives the closest, cleanest shave possible... BUT you need to develop a couple skills in order to actually use it efficiently and it's also not idiot proof like a cartridge type. I mean, clearly, the only reason anyone doesn't use straight razors is because they're lazy rich fucks with bottomless bank accounts to buy replacement heads, right?
>>57595725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycceZlvkLVk
im dumb
>>57595862
When I got mine some seven years ago it was around 1000€ including all lessons, fees and a repeat exam (lel), I heard nowadays it's closer to 2000€.
>>57595533
>>57595710
Here you can start driving straight away, but with a qualified instructor obviously. I literally just got behind the wheel when he stopped in front of my house, listened to the 20 second explanation of gears and what not to do, and I was off.. About 20 hours-30 hours of lessons (which comes down to about 12-20 as well I think) is enough for most people. There is a theoretical test you must pass before you can do the practical exam, but you can just study those from a book or CD if you don't want to pay for classes. Shit's expensive enough as it is.. My license cost around €1000,- I think, maybe slightly less.
>>57595413
>Germans will never have to worry about population bred transportation issues such as high traffic flow
>>57590066
Manual, why woud i lose 1/2 of fun?
Autos are okay, just not fun. You need just to go from a to b? When auto is for you.
>>57595873
>It took me all of 30 minutes to learn.
fucking lies. I'd love to see you do a hill-start, or hold it with clutch on a slope, after 30 minutes. By your logic it took me 5 minutes to learn to 'drive stick' -- took more like 10 hours to get competent, and I'm still mastering it (heel-and-toe like >>57591480 but that's racing techniques.)
As I said, they only very recently matched manual cars in efficiency and they are still more expensive to install or maintain -- efficiency of scale aside.
>>57595919
The driving schools vary here from about 500$-800$ for the lessons,110$ to take each test
so about 800-1000$ total if you go to driving school
>>57596037
>As I said, they only very recently matched manual cars in efficiency and they are still more expensive to install or maintain -- efficiency of scale aside.
The efficiency argument also doens't help if you live in a state (US or otherwise) where gas and/or car taxes make it appealing to get <2L engines.
>>57595931
>>57596039
Here there's no limit on the number of lessons and shit (some EU cunts want 30+ hours with instructor) I did 10 hours with an instructor, luckily passed my theory first time with fuck all revision (lucky being the qualifying word) and then probably spent 40+ hours of driving with my parents. They have to pay insurance, and also I took 2 practical tests, failed the first.
Most people probably have 20+ hours instruction I'd guess.. At £20-30 an hour. Technically tho, you could pass your test the 2nd day after your 17th birthday if you passed your theory on day one.
>>57596132
true.
>>57596037
I already knew how to drive a car, Nigel. Learning stick was just familiarizing yourself with the nuance of the outdated technology. Clutch to start, clutch to change gears, hand brake to steady the car on inclines. Everything else is just logic or using your ears.
>>57596211
>chatting this much shit
lol
>>57595377
Ever driven on that highway? Looks comfy. Post more
>>57595413
And yet you still can't drive on it, while the so called retards can
>>57596259
Another fine post. At that, I'll let you get back to whatever it is you imagine you're actually doing.
>>57596321
Please leave i was having a nice convo with these guys
>>57596295
>implying I haven't driven just fine in the US in the past, years before even going to driving school
US roads and cars are literally moron proof.
>>57596295
driven plenty in NL, that's what everything is like along the north sea, and from the verge you can't see the sea anyway. the turbines are EVERYWHERE in the lowlands. RE second point.. k.
>>57596321
>clutch to start
>hand brake to steady the car on inclines
OK mate.
>>57596360
Not sure why you decided reply to me but are you this >>57596039 guy? It seems odd to me that Canada, a place with free health care, would have to spend so much just to get a license. Driver's Ed is free here, tests and all. It's part of school curriculum.
>>57596456
>American drivers
>"Ed"
>anglos arguing how to drive a car
>>57596170
>Here there's no limit on the number of lessons and shit
I don't believe we have a formal minimum, but the driving test here is stringent enough that you really need a proper routine when driving. Not looking into even a single street, or missing a single sign (in a 55 minute exam!) can be an instant-fail in the wrong circumstances.. So you either need a good bit of hours, or an intensive course. There are these 10-day crash courses in which you drive multiple hours for days in a row and go straight up to your exam.
>>57596495
>German cars
Ewww no thanks
>>57596456
Yea idk, our government enjoys digging in the pockets of the people, Same as our "Free" Healthcare
>>57596559
Two posters hardly represent all of Anglodom.
>>57596295
>Ever driven on that highway? Looks comfy. Post more
I have, not sure if that specific bit though.. It's a bit less comfy from the road because you can only see the grass mound, not the water.
>>57596559
>lumping us in with our new world cousins
OK raikkonen. Just cos we don't have to skid-pan on our test - we are the world leaders in motorsport and damn good drivers!
>>57596585
same lad
>>57596587
>American so-called automobiles
>>57596559
>He speaks another countries language
>not cucked
>>57596384
>that's what everything is like along the north sea
You mean the IJsselmeer m8... The North Sea has sand dunes. Flatlands and tulips are generally a bit more landinward.
>>57596640
>those windmills
absolute kanker
What are the S and L gears for?
>>57596763
Small and Large
>>57596495
I'd love to see how far your superior German road knowledge gets you in NY. You have it easy. Plus I've seen all those European dash cam videos. You guys are living joke on the road. At least you still also have to manually shift all your gears :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvmszwPY_xs
>>57596784
pls be srs :(
>>57596763
"Stopped" and "landing"
Stopped is if you parked the car and don't want to set your parking brake, landing works as an engine brake to slow the vehicle down
>>57596722
>IJsselmeer
yeah that's the specific stretch I meant actually. but the whole coast is similar scenery. Never seen the tulip fields IRL. When I said the windmills are everywhere - I mean they are - NL, Belgium, UK, DK.. Literally everywhere on North sea coast.. And even more so on the lowlands (also inland)
>>57596654
>German cars are the best!
>Literally garbage emissions
>Shit safety standards
Lel, stay mad Volk shill
>>57596842
>pseudo automatic features
Well whaddya know.
USA. Manual preferred but not really any good reason.
>>57596842
what is the pointed of "stopped" (S) if you already have the "park" (P) at the top?
>>57596800
>European dash cam videos
You mean Russian dash cam videos?
Also, dash cam videos are self-selecting, anyway. People aren't going to upload all the footage of completely banal, uneventful trips, are they?
>>57596886
>just before the ABS intervenes
:3
but yeah, if you're going straight over, shift down to third, if not, down to second -- on the rev limit.. PAP PAAAP off into third on your exit.
Does feel pretty fucking good mayne.
Also all UK speed cameras are obvious as shit and marked :DD also, fuck French cameras, mans gotta get to 'Dam innit.
>tfw driving agencies aren't linked together yet.
>>57596800
Manhattan is just a giant traffic light controlled grid of rectangular roundabouts around city blocks. All you have to watch out for are insane cyclists.
>>57596853
>go on a witch hunt against VW because muh evil emissions
>meanwhile a hundred million Americans driving herpenderp truck barges getting 15 mpg
>meanwhile half of Americans living in jurisdictions where you can rip the catalytic converter out of your car and no one will ever notice
>>57590728
Wow what a faggot.
>>57596961
The video I posted had Russian and German. Here's one purely of Germans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AljWiGO1Uso
>damn near no one on any roads
>still eat shit for no good reason
>>57597065
Ignore the other vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp58BtMUUPs
>>57596979
obvious troll is obvious mate, shouldn't have taken the bait. German cars are a shit load better, they consider the BMW/Mercedes/Audi a ""luxury"" item over there. Also most of Fords cars that sell well both sides of the atlantic (not talking the F150/Mustang stuff or super eco stuff) are German or British / combo of engineered.
>>57597065
Most of these aren't even dangerous situations, just slightly unusual situations. Oh no, a cat is crossing the road in safe distance, better upload it to Youtube!
>try to buy car
>it's sold as manual
>check pics
>it's a CVT
I like think that those idiots brag about driving manual just cause they can push the stick up or down lel
Manual
>>57596979
t. guy who has never been inside NYC
>>57597354
I have: How exactly is he wrong? I thought that was quite an eloquent description tbqh.
At night time though it's glorious. Cruise across town in 20 minutes flat, and for under $20 in a cab.. Day time, fuggggg.
all of them are automatic
I still love manuals though
>>57597354
I haven't driven in NYC specifically, but visiting Manhattan was part of the same vacation when I did drive in the US. Both Paris and Rome are leagues worse.
>>57597425
In the parts that are grid-like and traffic controlled, you're still in aggressive competition with all the other motorists. And night time driving isn't a much smaller dick in the ass since there's no quiet hours in Manhattan. There's only the presence or absence of the work rush in the standard traffic flow.
>tfw I'm 21 and have never learnt how to drive
>tfw my dad has worked with cars all his life
>tfw my brothers drive since they were 14, 15 yo
>>57594034
My first car was a Suzuki alto that was only 1000 ccs. Reaching 50kms honestly felt the same in terms of revs as a go kart would.
Russia.
I don't have a car and don't plan to buy one.
>>57597555
Public roads aren't supposed to be an aggressive competition, you marshmallow brain morons.
>>57597522
idk, Paris drivers are more aggressive (if that's possible.) But you are right about the gridlock and one way systems.
>>57597555
t. Never been to Manhattan
Night driving is a lot better since there *obviously* are quieter hours - even round Time Sq at 2am it's going to move, because you've got multiple lanes and shit. 2am Trafalgar Sq tho -- you might queue..
>>57597619
Swift? They're nice motors. Mine was a fiesta I think (I'm not entirely sure actually, but it was a small, 1L ford.) Good times.
>>57597606
Well, why don't you?
>mfw england has the highest drunk drive limit in europe
>some of the safest roads
learn to drive slightly drunk, rest of europe
>>57597880
>Europe: commuters catch trains and drive their cars for fun at the weekends
>America: commuters have to drive because they live in modern-sprawl with no infrastructure
>Europe: makes the best cars on earth
>America: lel
>>57597924
Aren't we *the* safest? Good post tho.
>>57597648
>>57597880
>>57597924
Anglos should not be permitted to drive.
Fast mouths slow hands.
>>57597812
Newer ones are much nicer and have better engines. Mine was from 1990 and didn't even have a radio.
>>57598070
>the middle car is literally a ford cosworth
>american brand
>english engineered
k
>>57597555
>since there's no quiet hours in Manhattan.
Did you still have a bedtime when you visited that place or something? I thought midtown got remarkably calm after 23:00.. Much less so than Paris for instance.
>>57598070
> Every anglo is America
Over here we have snow and mountains to navigate, and manuals are common first cars. Britain has better drivers than you do so lose the superiority complex from being able to drive with snow chains.
Passed my driver's test just yesterday.
I am now officially part of the manual masterrace!
>>57598183
>t. brand new seeland
>snow
I don't even know where to beging...
>>57598070
I love that BMW, which is it exactly?
>>57598183
>Britain has better drivers than you do
[X] Doubt
