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Do you agree?
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dumb easter spam
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>>57569104
Greece should be in 2nd tier instead of Japan, they were closed for too long to really "DO" anything for the World at large
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>>57569104
Pretty retarded bro
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>>57569670
we made good tentacle porn on woodblock.
I mean, come on...WOODBLOCK.
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>>57569104
>Grease
oh God my sides
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>>57569104
>Nipland
>Chinkland
those are late-coming countries though.
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>>57569670
Greece didn't exist until the 1800's and I'm not sure what they contributed since then.
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>China
The Yuan dynasty and the Qing dynasty were occupied nations.

The Great Wall was a nation borderline.
Mongolian came from the outside of the wall and built the Yuan dynasty.
Manchurian came from the outside of the wall and built the Qing dynasty.
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>>57569104
Do you love Japan?
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>>57569782
Are retarded or just a Turk ?
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>>57569104
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>>57569801
It is said that wall was built on a foundation of corpses.

I wonder how much truth there is to it.
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I think people that lost any number of World Wars shouldn't be on the top tiers honestly.
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>>57569104
Greece, Egypt and Britain first tier
Romans and chinks second tier
rest 3rd tier
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>>57569888
>Egypt
>first tier
t. Abdullah
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>>57569841
i like speyn
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>>57569104
>Japan
>second tier
Stop using Japan as your proxy Korea.
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>>57569876
this fuck germany
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>>57569732
they couldn't go into orbit if it weren't for Greece
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>>57569104
>USA
>literally only relevant for 100 years
>top 6 country
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>>57569924
I'm Greek you slavic subhuman.

>>57569927
You shouldn't be in the list you little yellow monkeys.
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>>57569104
>Japan
>history
it is boring as fuck.
Atleast I agree Chinese history is 1st tier though CPC is fucking shit.
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>>57569963
I'm germanic subhuman doe
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>>57569963
ITS THE ROLEPLAYING ROACH

DON'T


ANSWER
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>>57570021
same shit
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>>57570026
t. Ukraininan
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>>57569104
Which tier is Korea?
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>>57569104
Would agree if you show the Taiwan flag instead.
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Communists destroyed China.
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>>57570102
Shit-tier together with Japan and Germany.
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>>57569104
>australia not 2nd tier

Shit list
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The UK isn't a country.
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>>57569963
Its le mad Greeko immigrant man again lmao
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The concept of a country is a very recent phenomenon.
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>>57570218
And you are another immigrant or the Ukrainian.
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>>57569670
If Rome isn't on tier 2, Greece shouldn't be either.

In fact, Rome should be in tier 1.
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>>57569104

>germany in the 2nd tier
>probably meant either 2nd or 3rd reich but uses the flag of the cuckold republics

Use the reichsflagge instead of the cuckold one then I'll agree
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>>57569844
modern day greece has nothing to do with the hellenics konstantinos
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>>57569104
Dumb pepsi poster
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>>57570277
proofs
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>>57569104
1st Greece, China, Egypt,
2nd Germany, UK, US
3rd the rests.

Germany can be 1.5 tier for that most of modern industrial techs originated from them.
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>>57569104
You forget USSR. Little fucking pussy capitalist-bastard.
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Trigerred
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>>57570251
No greeko immigrant man I told you to back to greece if its so great a few weeks ago!
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>ITT
Since when did /int/ start becoming objective?
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>>57570142
Australia is above 1st:God tier.
Australian people have livened up /int/
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>>57570394
You are another immigrant who is butthurt because I told you that even Greece is better than your shithole. Ukraine is shit and your country is too.
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>>57570378
USSR = Russian Empire #2
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>>57570259
>Re*chsflagge
>not glorious germanic rebels colors

End yourself
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>>57569732
>>57569782
>>57570277
based butthurtbros
>>57569104
for real though, comparing ancient/medieval era achievements to victorian/modern era ones is a surefire way to turn a thread into a shitstorm
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>>57570460
But greeko immigrant man my country is Germany!
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>>57569104
Why is RUSSIAN a 2 tier? WHY is america?
Does Ratio not exist?Precedents are also very important . A million factores , define a country/human and yet non of the these are taking into acount . But let me tell you chink that history has been made, and is recorded .
Lusitanus Imperium Maximus
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>>57569104
>japan
>""""""""""human"""""""""" """"""""""history""""""""""
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>>57570519
Germans wouldn't write like you.
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>>57569888
Agree but remove egypt, put down to third. They had some decent mathematicians, library of alexandria, but they were built on the greeks and alexander the great.

France should be on 3 as well I think, they've contributed a lot, just less than the rest
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>>57569104
>greece
If you're talking about ancient greece, that wasn't a country
Also
>japan
No
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>>57569104
>Germany
This meme AGAIN. I love it. Every time I think people are starting to wisen up, I find myself to be completely mistaken. It's a miracle I even have any amount of faith left in society.
For the two-hundredth time, Germany's done little to none when it comes to contributing to human advancement.
First, let's list the bright points. Their accomplishments:
>Destruction of Rome
>Holy Roman Empire
>Bismarck
>Third Reich
>?
Wow! Look at that! They managed to destroy the Roman Empire! Isn't it awesome that they tore down the centerpiece of European advancement and culture and replaced it with the dark ages? Cool! And not only, that, but they had to overcome the might of the ENTIRE weak, crumbling Italian infrastructure and military to do so! And after they were done, wasn't it awesome how they were able to make all of these buildings fall into complete disrepair? Wow!
After that, They made the Holy Roman Empire! The perfect successor! Sure, it might not have been Holy, or Roman, and it might have actually been established by the Pope and the courage of a Frog, but it was in Germany, right? Remember all the cool things they did? I sure don't, but I'm sure there's something good in there! And what about Bismarck, the man that unified the German states that couldn't get along without him? Remember how he unified them into a single hate machine that he could then push outwards towards all of Europe? Yeah! After he was gone, they sure did well projecting that anger after big brother Austria tapped them on the shoulder and showed them the light of Serbian evil. Sure, they lost, but they definitely gave the world a hard time with their gas weapons. Well - they may not have made it, but a traitorous Jew that definitely wasn't on their side that they were still kind enough to allow to live in Germany did! How kind of the Germans, right? Nope! They went on the massacre Jews and lose AGAIN at austria's request!
Germany's pathetic, and so are you.
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>>57570580
No Europe without Greece, no Greece without Egypt.

>>57570604
shitskin
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>>57570102
The "what?" tier
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>>57569104
You seems to forget the king of Asia
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>>57570479

>flag of a failed rebellion against the rightful monarchies
>flag of a failed republic that was just a shadow of the mighty empire
>flag of another failed republic that cucked itself so hard that it will soon be replaced by an arab islamic caliphate

god I wish you faggots would finally realize that the republics were a failure and big fat fucking mess.
I actually feel ashamed when I think about that I also used to own that cuckflag.
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>>57570663
Why?
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>>57570811
shitskin
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>>57570757
Name 3 Mongolian people, inventions, artistic works
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>>57570631
I'm saving this
>>57570757
one of the coolest flags
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>>57570631

10/10 I´ll pay for the scorts that you deserve
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>>57570943
>I'm saving this
Thanks. I ran out of characters and had to start shortening it. It's fresh pasta, but the noodles are a little soggy.
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>>57570880
>Name 3 Mongolian people
Ogedai
Genghis
Kublai
>inventions
Russia
>artistic works
Mongolian yodeling
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>>57570981
>>inventions
>Russia
That's Swedish
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>>57570880
Genghis Khan
Genghis Khan
Genghis Khan
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Unbiased list

>Tier 1

China

>Tier 2

Rome

Iraq

Greece

>Tier 3

Turkey

The UK

Egypt

>Tier 4

Anything else
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>>57570631
The FUCKING burguer speaks the truth.

Ofc germany is no top 10 regarding human advance, but i am not one to lie and i must say that they're rage , violence are beautiful , sure they destroyed the continent i love, but im still thankful for they're existence . Western Europeans are very different, and that's our strength. True and Pround Diversity can only be found in this land , we just need to be civilized and apreciate all the aspects of all people .
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>>57570880
Genghis Khan
Chinghis Khan
You
Wait - is it Mongolians, or Mongoloids?
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>>57571091
Loving
Every
Laugh
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>>57571091
no
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India is the greatest
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>>57571116
Auditioning for Comedy Central any time soon?
You're a real talent, kid.
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>>57569104
What the fuck did China do that was so special?
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>>57571129
>>57571125
Nice memes.
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>>57571241
your life is a meme
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>>57571216
Song dynasty china was at renaissance level of development in around 1000 AD when Europe was a rural backwater no better than africa.
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>>57571284
Yea and did they grow out into much?
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>>57571216
M8 a lot, in all levels , do keep in mind that china was like Europa a literal continent full of live.
I would honestly advice you to read on it, is 10/10 Human History
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>>57571091
Tbqh im going to try and make an unbiased list
>Tier 1
(whichever country the mesopotamians ended up being)
Rome
Greece
>Tier 2
China,the UK,Egypt
>Tier 3
Russia,Germany,the USA
>Tier 4
Every country that influenced the world with colonies,that shaped that region to this day
>Tier 5
Everyone else
(this list is meant to count all contributions to the collective knowledge and culture of humanity,this means these countries are ranked by most influence on world history to the least
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>>57569104
where is finlan
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>>57571216
Chinese great achievements are countless for example paper making,compass,gunpowder and printing.
Without China,Asia would be as same as Africa.
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>>57571455
Second tier, far right.
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>>57571482
10/10 top quality
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>>57569104
Move all of Second tier (except for Japan) to first tier and move China to second tier and then you will have the correct answer.
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>>57571460
Nips greatest achievement are countless of war crimes
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>>57571339
China has been developmentally ahead of anywhere else on the planet for all of recorded history except the past 200 years, and in 100 years they likely will be again. This is a blip, China has had them all throughout its history, the splits after the Shang, Han and Tang dynasties as well as the Mongol invasion all held them back as they started to get complacent with their place in the world, but they've always come back from it after the political system was shaken up. The British invasion is just the most modern example of this.
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>>57569104
UK is number 1 but why china? Put France beside it.
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>>57571538
China strong England can suck our chink dicks
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>>57570800
>why yes, I am a supporter of the Kaiserreich and not a filthy republican who seeks to give power to the dumb peasants. Long live Kaiser Willhelm II.!
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>>57571514
Heh
I don't want to fight,bro
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>>57571091
Nahh. It would be more like this:
>Tier 1:
United Kingdom, Rome, China
These are civilizations with powerful militaries that not only expanded far, like the Mongols, but also contributed vast amounts of knowledge to the world and possessed powerful militaries
>Tier 2:
Greece, Persia, Egypt, Sumer, Abassids, India
These are nations that were fairly expansive or had decent militaries, and generated large amounts of knowledge. These nations often saw numerous military defeats and were either not well-unified or constantly collapsing and rebuilding
>Tier 3:
Azteca, Japan, Khans, Ottomans, Russia
These nations either had strong militaries or were fairly developed, but had little contact with the rest of the world or contributed little to no knowledge, and in the case of the khans and ottomans, they even actively destroyed it
>Tier 4:
Anything else
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>>57571538
You can't compare ancient history with modern history, I mean that's such amazing nonsense.

It's literally a total other world with different rules now, most of history it was the same (about the same style of combat and such things) so you can't compare it.
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>>57571184
This, no arguments needed.
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>>57571545
How's the weather in Quebec today?
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>>57571625
Then give up and stab your chest with katana
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>>57571627
>Rome
Greece is 1 if you put Rome to 1.
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>>57571633
Thank you for curry:3
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>>57571617

>down with the Kaiser. Long shall live the republic. Liberty, Unity and black dicks for everyone. But before it comes to that, I'll have to service muhammed first. ;-))
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>>57571627
> tier 4 anything else
Americunt education
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>>57571629
Even if you're right, if we're making a list of the greatest civilisations in human history, China HAS to be tier 1. As I said most of the things on this list were being invented when my country was being governed by a bunch of glorified tribal warlords.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_of_the_Song_dynasty
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>>57571627
>Ottomans
into the trash it goes
I can agree with Abassids because of golden Age
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>>57571627
>including aztecs just to add in a native american state
Nice meme
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>>57571738
Oh yeah do the seppuku
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>>57569104
I do agree, yes.
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Tier 1
UK, France, German
tier 2
Italy, Netherlands , Greece
tier 3
USA, Russia, Spain
tier 4
Turkey, Austria, Poland
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>>57571666
>>57571738
Demon trips get
You have to do it now japboi
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>>57571627
>but had little contact with the rest of the world or contributed little to no knowledge
>Russia
Not even a cyka, but kill yourself.
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>>57570580
>France should be on 3 as well I think, they've contributed a lot, just less than the rest
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>>57571851
>no China in the list
Are you out of your fucking mind
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>>57571789
Fine, but what i don't get is why it went so slow. Europe went from the same status to an entirely different world in what three centuries; far more fantastic a change. We truly got it; we were the best at using the tools we were given, unlike all the people before it.
China invented a lot but had like what 4000 years for that?
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>>57571851
>Netherlands
Greece 1 and remove Germany and France from 1. You insult Britain if you put them together.
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>>57571627
Ottomans "little contact" Lie
Aztecas? literally what did they do help human advancement? besides dying

I could tell a million things wrong with what you said but i would rather make my list


Tier1
Rome
China
Tier2
Greece , Egypt, [Insert GLOBAL empires] , India
Tier 3
France, USA, Mongols , Moors
Tier 4
Ottoman, Austria , Italia , Germany
Tier 5
Scandinavia, Native America , Africa, Slav Regions
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ARAM
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>>57571984
Greece is 1 if you put Rome to 1 you stupid shitskin.
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>>57571738
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus_Valley_Civilisation
>Along with Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia it was one of three early civilizations of the Old World, and of the three the MOST WIDESPREAD.
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>>57571984
>tier 2
>India
>slavs in tier 5
Stop doing this
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>>57571115
>>57570631
>Calculus
>Classical Music
>Astrodynamics
>Rockets
>Ballistics
>Printing Press
>Nuclear Bomb
>Nationalism
>Special Relativity

These are just off the top of my head
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>>57571738
NO nips
Why you do this? We brought curry to India, WITH OUT US THERE WOULD BE NO CURRY.
We gave you guns, and showed you glorious western culture. Only your based emperor recognizes our influence
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>>57571955
It didn't went slow
In fact from the view of modern China it is growing like crazy
You see how they achieved number one on gdp in just 20 years is amazing. Now it is one of the most military powerful country with the economy going uphill. So not only China was a great civilisation in ancient time but it is also nailing it right now
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>>57572025
No you fucking faggot, ancient greece has nothing to do with you turk and eastern european rape babies, just like rome has nothing to do with italy. At leasr italians realize this, but Greece always goes WE WUZ PHILOSOPHERS about this topic
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>>57571813
Really? Aztecs and Incans were both pretty amazing.
Aztecs had observatories, built aqueducts, managed terrain and drained swampland, built artificial islands, used arches, and administrated a fairly expansive empire
Incans, on the other hand, administered a massive empire, built roads, had heating systems, had pump systems with working taps, and domesticated animals. If they weren't so isolated, their achievements would mean a lot more
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>>57572082
Shut your third world country subhuman mouth
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>>57572097
>Now it is one of the most military powerful country
That's not correct.
>with the economy going uphill.
Last time I checked, the growth has been slowing after the near economic crisis from months back.
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>>57572144
fuck off slavshit
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>>57569888
>>57570394
>>57570460
>>57570519
>>57570564
>>57570663
>>57570864
>>57571701
>>57571957
>>57572025
stop being so cringey turk
>>57572144
actually we are more or less the same with some regional admixture from slavic migrations
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>>57569104
Yea, get rid of Japan and replace with France
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>>57572097
Hahahaha
>giant country pumps money into its economy
>wow such growth such amazing nevermind ghost cities everywhere and shitty commie system western man
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>>57572149
>extensive empire
They were extremely tiny relative to other empires, even when you include tributary states. As for their achievements outside of conquest, Aztecs are trumped by the Mayans and Incans by far.
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>>57572201
he is not cringey. he is aware of his ancient greek genes. i love him tb h
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>>57572266
he's probably a proxy
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>>57572163
Prove how the military one is not correct
China didn't import your shit technology to their military system, they're basically making cool shit on their own

And it has been downhill last month but it will go back up pretty soon, that little change doesn't matter because they're getting better every year

How does it feel like to get stomp on in the gdp chart?
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>>57572073
Il sorta of give you the HUGE importance that printing press.
Any other could and would at be achivied but they indeed were they first (barely in some of those thing, like Ballistics ).

Nationalism? was invented by the nazis? you are fucking delusional my good burguer . Germany is the same tier as France and that is final in my view. They are both sides of the same coin
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>>57572073
>You win there
>You win there
>That came from a lot of places
>Jules Verne invented a functioning rocket before Germany.
>You win there
>Johannes GutenBERG
>EinSTEIN
>Seriously? Pride is inherently German? That would explain why they're so good at stabbing others in the back
>EinSTEIN
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>>57572160
You made me kek, inferior honk kong chink.
Ask Macau if it liked being fucked by superior Portuguese cock for 500 years , up untill 2001.

Know your place
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>>57572334
>EinSTEIN
>Johannes GutenBERG
Both German
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>>57572305
>Prove how the military one is not correct
Because their military is largely outdated and based on quantity, while lacking any significant projection. Give me 20-30 years and I'll agree with your radical Sinoboo views
>And it has been downhill last month but it will go back up pretty soon, that little change doesn't matter because they're getting better every year
Say that to any relevant economist.
>How does it feel like to get stomp on in the gdp chart?
How does it feel to just begin to catch up with a nation that has ~25% of your population while being a backwater shithole outside of the coasts and urban areas?
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>any non-white country above any European country

How about no.
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>>57572213
Primarily because they were a very insular country with no competitors. Europe has several small micro states which were all competing for dominance which drove innovation, China's invention was a much slower, school based bureaucratic kind of invention, as the only people they ever fought were steppe peoples on horses who didn't actually want to conquer them, just hold up their cities, take a few things and then disappear off into Mongolia again. The next real civilisation along from China was in Iraq, half the world away and with lots of desert in between so they never really clashed.
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>>57572384
We don't give a shit about Macau it's just a little island with tourist attraction in casino

>inferior Hong Kong chink
When your country isn't even popular
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>>57572395

Einstein was a jew desu, but Gutenberg was a cristian german.
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>>57572431
Meant for >>57571955

Though possibly same person
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Remove Japan, Germany, Russia, China, Egypt.
Tier 1:
UK, for contributing to development of scientific method and spearheading industrial revolution
Roman Empire for laying the foundation of Western Civilization (early democracy? early legal system? shit like that, I guess)
Poland and Belarus for being great heroes of Europe historically, and last bastions of white culture in modern times
T2:
Greece, Arabs, France for contributing to scientific method.
T3:
???? maybe US and Japan for developing modern crap and being high-tech and doing research?

Everyone else can go suck a dick with their """culture""" or """warior spirit""" or """2ancent4u""" or whatever else put Germany, Russia, China, Egypt on the list.
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>>57572480

Greece > Roman Empire desu desu desu fampai desupai
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>>57572305
They're basically taking Western plans and making inferior knock off products is what you mean.
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>>57572503
Nah Rome > Greece
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>>57572480
>Roman Empire for laying the foundation of Western Civilization
Greece
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>>57572553

Rule of history has always been that when two cultures meet, the inferior one always defers to the superior one.

Same thing happened when Rome absorbed Greece and essentially became Greek.
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>Iranians
>Greeks
>Italians
>French
>Iberians
>Anglos
>Chinese
>Indians
>Scandinavians
>Russians
>Poles
>Egyptians
>Jews
>Arabs
All of them are tier 1
Did I forget anyone?
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>>57572553
Your opinion is worthless you Canuck.
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>>57569768
Chinkland has been a great country for the last 2500 years

Nippon is only liked by weebs
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>>57572586
>>57572553

Also there's some reason to believe that Greeks used to be more intelligent than any other race for genetic reasons.

Talked about in the book The 10,000 year explosion, which explores the genetics of intelligence.

Now Greeks are fucking retards though ofc.
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>>57572503
Greece came first but Rome went around Europe shitting laws and roads and stuff like that.

Greece was just sitting in its barrel and wanking around with piracy and trade.

I mean if we include Grease then India and China deserve a place too despite sitting on their asses with muh buddhism muh legalism muh limited science
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>>57572644
>Now Greeks are fucking retards though ofc.
No they aren't you stupid American bastard.
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>>57572650

Greece contributed more to basically everything except maybe military history and construction (concrete).

Socrates, Plato and mostly Aristotle are basically unrivaled by any other thinkers.
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>that extremely butthurt greek ITT
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>>57572650
You know nothing about history you slavshit.
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what the fuck has germany ever done besides genocide?

replace it with Netherlands
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IMO

>Tier 1
UK
China
USA
Rome

Tier 2
Iran
Russia/USSR
Egypt
Germany

Tier 3
France
Spain
Greece
Ottoman Empire/Turkey
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>>57572716
Greece is more white than Britain because you have so many shitskins now.

>>57572746
You are more worthless than Germans.
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>>57572556
>>57572722
>>57572172
εισαι ελληνας; ποσταρεις σαν να μπεηταρεις
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>>57572757
Greece is 1 if you put Rome to 1.
>Russia
kek
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>>57572765
name ONE thing germany has ever done that influenced world history

""""""""""""Germanic"""""""""""" tribes don't count
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>>57572765
>>57572680
>>57572601
ρεσποντ αφτιστ >>57572769
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>>57572443
Popular? really?
Macau is nice , how many million people live there? dont be but hurt . You think the average honk kong chink lives better then the average Portuguese?

Culturally, Historically and by ratio we are the were the most influence beings in history .

Honk kong has and always had much more population them mu cunt, and yet nothing did nothing but suck british cock
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>>57572765
>Greece is more white than Britain because you have so many shitskins now.

But Greeks are shitskin? They are Turkified
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>>57571391
>USA again

wtf is this? they are only relevant for 100 years
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>>57572025
>>57572025
My kraut friend
First im not a shitskin and neither are my ethnicity group , at this point i would bet good money that germany has already a hight ratio of north african admixture then us.


Greece was the first, the muse. but it was a egocentric one. Greeks live only for themself theyre history are proof of it.
Now romans are not only War Gods, Intellectuals but also build and civilized the rest of Europe . We own our existence to the Romans , we live in a ROMAN like world. And the rest is a greek/ottaman living in Germany but-blasting
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cina is trash
uk is fourth tier at best
italy is objectively first tier
japan and germany don't even belong to the list
usa is too young, fourth tier at best
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>>57572757
Mesopotamia and middle eastern culture in general was centred around Baghdad and Iraq, not Iran. Iran only comes out ahead now because more Iraqi infrastructure was destroyed.
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>>57572769
Stop being a germcuck.

>>57572808
world wars (loser)
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>>57572837

It's probably because the last 100 years have accelerated human achievement a thousand times the previous 14 billion years combined.
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>>57572765
Actually no, we're just wealthy, smart and succesful in general.
Which isn't because we're better people but because of our attitude.
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>>57572699
Greece didn't really spread its achievements to other people like Rome did. I mean Greece did have colonies on the coast of Mediterranean and in Crimea and prolly somewhere else but they didn't influence locals for the next several centuries.

Philosophy is useless shit stemming from limitations of language, and grease science only spread thanks to Rome who yeah took it but still.
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>>57569104
>usa
>not first
the fuck
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>>57572886
>not a greek
k
keep baiting
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>>57572836
>But Greeks are shitskin?
no
>They are Turkified
Most of them are natives.

>>57572871
Too much to read shitskin. fuck germany
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>>57572070
M8 India had a very strong ancient and continental presence , do keep in mind that the european kill them selfs in the thousands to reach it for a reason
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>>57572808
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_scientists

when it came to science they were pretty good
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>>57572746
Holy Roman Empire
Philosophers like Hegel/Marx/Engels/Kant/Nietzsche etc
Wealth and Technology
Schnitzel
Pretty much destroyed the Roman Empire
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>>57572892

Rome was the vector for Greek culture.

>Philosophy is useless shit stemming from limitations of language

You're a pleb m8.

Aristotle's contributions weren't just wankery.
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>>57572874
>Italy is objectively first tier
>uk is fourth tier at best
>germany don't even belong to the list

hahahahaha dis nigga serious like hahahahaha
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>>57572808
I think germany should be lower down, but in their defence they have had a lot of philosophers and a few mathematicians of note; gauss, einstein, a lot of aeronautics people (von karman, von braun, prandtl) nietzsche, kant, hegel, marx off the top of my head
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>This Butthurt Turk roleplaying as a Greek ITT
Pathetic Mohammedans again
Also
1.
Britain and China only
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>>57572892
>but they didn't influence locals for the next several centuries.
ever heard of the eastern roman empire?
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>>57572889
Didn't you steal a lot of stuff from poor tropical shitskins?

>>57572892
Look at this worthless subhuman.

>>57572904
>being a cuck
You have slavic dna my friend.
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>>57569104
>spqr with cross
rome went to shit because of jesus cult
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>>57572982
>only
kek
Fuck of you butthurt Ukrainian. Even Arabs are better than you.

>>57572996
germanics
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>>57572892
Yeah, fuck logic, mathematics, astronomy, psychology, science and all that other shit that started with philosophy. Fuck all that, we don't need it, you and me together, we've got this covered
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>>57572990
μιλα μ στα ελληνιkα μεητ
you're not greek
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>>57572876
Yeah, Mesopotamia. Even though the GOAT city in Mesopotamia next to Abbasid Baghdad was Ctesiphon and Mesopotamia was at it's peak of relevance during the Parthian and Sassanian empires. Plus Cyrus the Great is probably the GOAT conquerer of the ancient era
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>>57571514

To be fair they did pretty much revive video games from the dead when America decided to crash the market with no survivors.
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>>57572988
the east roman administrative half was formed several centuries after the conquest of greece
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>>57573028
Den eisai ellinas re mlk
You are some Armenian/Turk diaspora and always insult people without reasoning
You literally can't speak our language, fuck off and learn to respect
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>>57573070

>an adult who plays video games
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>>57573108

I didn't say I play them, merely stating the fact.
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>>57572889
Kant, Hegel, Nietzsche and Marx are some of the most influential philosophers of all time
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>>57572757
I don't see how the US could be considered tier 1, it's only been relevant for the past 70 years.. It should be tier 3 or lower.
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>>57573087
yet the people of that half still spoke greek and followed greek culture up until the medieval times
therefore,the greek colonies influenced the region greatly
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>>57573042
γιατί?
cuck

>>57573107
Prove me wrong if you can.
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>>57572948
Yeah I just looked it up and thought about it for like 30 seconds and now I agree, Greece should be Tier1 instead of Poland.

Fucking Poland.

>>57572988
Wasn't it mostly concerned with infighting, palace intrigue, politics and pitting barbarians against each other?
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>>57573145
Who cares about philosophers, you can keep that nonsense to yourself.
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>>57573216
read
>>57573192

>>57573219
>who cares about philosophers
humanity's collective conciousness would be still "ME BASH ROCK,ME MAKE FLAME" without philosophy
philosophy birthed the positive sciences,mind you
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>>57572505
Implying Russia isn't doing the same thing
>>57572407
Quantity can beat quality
1 drone and 10 Chinese soldier
Who do you think would win?

It has begun and it will replace the seat of being a super power country in decades

Your attempt at grasping at straws is pitiful
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>>57573219
Yeah and the Hegel/Kant/Marx combo didn't change the world more than anything your country ever did.
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>>57573041
Exactly. Screw astronomy especially.
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>>57570631
>tfw I spent all this time writing this turdfling only for four (you)s
Do I get more if I proxy as Australia, Poland, or Canada?
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>>57573213
>giati
gia na apodeikseis oti eisai ellinas
thelw na sintheseis protaseis, oxi monolektikes apantiseis

loipon
giati apantas san autistikos se kathe post pou den mas vazei stin korifi?

respond my """"greek"""" friend
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>>57573188
That's right my ex British brother
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>>57573281
No it's just nonsense hard science is all that matters and the scientific principle isn't philosophical it's just based on testing your hypotheses. You just prove your theory is correct by making models and such things and testing those; it's not philosophical.

>>57573270
It was an interesting experiment, but nonsense.
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Why is USA not in all categories?
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>>57573367
what experiment?
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>>57573375
Because last time my visa expired and you kicked me out
Now we're setting you up
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>>57573367
>>57573395
Switched the replies.
And communism, I like the fact that it was tried.
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>>57572757

>USSR
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>>57573280
>Quantity can beat quality
It really worked out well during the Opium Wars, right?
Also, the drone would win by far against a group of typical Chinese soldiers, you're retarded.
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>>57573270
I don't really care who speaks which language. I was basing my personal ranking on the countries that caused paradigm shifts.

On second thought didn't Netherlands contribute to trading and economics like a lot?
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>>57573375
Tier 1: U
Tier 2: S
Tier 3: A
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>>57573395
NHave intercourse with all Greece women including your mom
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>>57571115
>apreciate all the aspects of all people .
even muslims?
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>>57573291
Fuck navigation, who needs to know where they're going, right? Ships captains just needed to guess and hope they ended up in the right place. Food, cargo and trade was so worthless, after all.
Fuck satellites and communications or exploration of other planets as well, while we're at it. You're so RIGHT flag-who-looks-kind-of-like-portugal-but-is-not.
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>>57573219
>Who cares about philosophers
this sound uneducated lad
Germany had one of the best thinkers, influenced by French people in the Enlightenment

>>57573213
>Prove me wrong if you can.
I don't have to prove you wrong, your cringey fake attitude is enough to convict you
I mean your reticent googled replies makes me become suspicious
Also, our uneducated pseudo-nationalist usually love Slavs because of muh orthodoxy, muh Byzantium
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>>57573367
>hard science is all that matters
spoken like a true autist

Science didn't topple Russia, China and the Yugoslav kingdom. Science is important but philosophy is just as important when it comes to international politics and the world.
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>>57569858

Commie solidarity.
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>>57573367
Well I mean philosophy initially covered hard sciences too, it only devolved into wankery a thousand or more years later.
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>>57573426
Your drone ain't shit once we disrupt it's signal using our secret weapon leading all your little toys breaking down
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>>57573529
lol
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>>57573367
>>57573407
do you understand what "philosophy" means?
science is just philosophy applied to the physical world
in fact,the frist peoples to distinguish between the two meanings,and finally split science and philosophy into two seperate entities,were the greaks of late antiquity
>>57573427
so in your opinion,romans and greeks did not cause paradigm shifts?
building what is now "the west" is not a paradigm shift to you?
>>57573437
(?)
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>>57569104
Ukraine grand preeee
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>>57573407
>Communism was tried

Really?

State capitalism was tried in the USSR and China and Syndicalism with a decent welfare state was tried in Yugoslavia. Communism is a global society that is inherently moneyless stateless and requires a global society all working together. That's like saying Sweden is socialist
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>>57573449
Since when does filthy nips care about Muslims? Is it your country is too peaceful that need some disturbance from the outside world?
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>>57573584

Do you not read the news?
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>>57573568
>science is just philosophy applied to the physical world
that's false, science is the categorization of knowledge generated through the scientific method.
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>>57573465
>science didn't topple Russia, China, Yugos
Yeah but who cares that they were toppled? Aside from millions of people living there? It won't matter in 1000 years.
>science didn't topple China
Actually wait, wasn't it science and opium that toppled China?
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>>57573577
t.John Trotski
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>>57573529
>it's signal using our secret weapon
Sounds like quality being used over quantity, holy shit!
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>>57573568
You can't blame me for taking philosophy in its modern form.
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>>57573621
I'm confused too. What did I miss?
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>>57573449
Well yes they have a rich history , but ofc if you are not European , you dont get do retire / Live here. Only tourists and some well trained workers should be allowed in EU. Since our demographics are very weak is the minimum we can do
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>>57573577

Communism has several stages; the USSR represented an early stage of Communism.

The fact that it never became a utopia doesn't mean Communism was never tried, it means Communism was tried and it failed.
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>>57573696
An early stage of communism is socialism. Read Marx ffs
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>>57573676
I can't,but when we talk about philosophy in general,ancient philosophy can not be seperate from the discussion
modern philosophy has given up on on the physical world because sciences exist now
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>>57573637
>It won't matter in 1000 years

But by then Marxist communism will be the philosophy of the world

Does anyone actually read German philosophy, Hegel and Marx's historic materialism is a must if you want to understand the way the economy works? Do you really think capitalism will last forever?
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>>57573733
>read Marx

Let me guess; you go to a C-tier college, right?

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.


All 10 planks met in the USSR.
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>>57573669
China's hacking skill is beyond your imagination. They tried to hack your White House and pentagon several times and it almost succeed do you remember?
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>>57573676
everyone back then in ancient greece thought it was wankery. In the republic plato even talks about how the common man views philosophers, because the benefits weren't realised at the time to everyone else. Benefits such as logic (and therefore all electronics and a bunch of maths), sciences like biology (aristotle was the first scientist), and what everyone else mentioned in the thread. Thinking modern day philosophy is worthless is along the same lines. Problem is academic "doing-it-for-a-job" philosophy =/= actually being a philosopher
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>>57573808
>almost succeed
Kek even i can hack pentagon website. All pc's with really important information dont have connection to internet cheenky chink.
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>>57573568
I included Romans in Tier 1, since they spread their highly-organized social order throughout Western Europe.
I didn't include greeks because as far as I know, Romans managed to develop their social order without influence of Greece. Weren't they democratic and organized before invading Greece?

If we talk about scientific thought, I don't remember what exactly Greece invented that was necessary and widely used in the next centuries.
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>>57573803
I went to a college that's constantly ranked towards the top.

Also your definition of socialism is completely off. Why do so many Americans fall for that meme. Also

>Spelling labor with a u
You're an American, your whole definition of socialism is based off the American propaganda machine
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>>57573637
That's a very unique flag
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>>57573912
Stay off from madagaskar. He is mine.
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