Would you vote for him?
>>57482499
lol no
2bh he is pretty retarded so no. Then again america is full of retards so.
>>57482499
he's a fun persona, but not president material
non
>>57482499
If it was between him and shillary then sure, Johnson otherwise.
>>57482499
Why? He wouldnt win anyway, so I vote for winning party instead :^)
>>57482499
He already lost, he has lost in many states when even he knew that he had to win every single state to secure his nomination.
Now the Republicans are gonna pick their own candidate and of course that candidate won't be trump.
Now his only "chance" is run as independent I think he will, but the guy is probably over.
Never ever.
>>57482499
No becuase his presidency will bring millions of American libtard refugees
He has a 0% chance of winning a general election
He might even get cucked out of the nomination
>>57482730
Pls impeach weedman, all your conservatives come here and I'm fucking tired of the snowbirds.
Yes, it would be interesting to have the first retarded US president
>>57482499
I already did.
Twice.
>>57482933
>voting for a guy who has no chances of winning
KILL YOURSELF SENPAI.
>>57482499
Yes
Only if I was a white murican redneck from the degenerate south
Other than that he'll fucking no
>Inb4 Le Mudshit hateful comments
>>57482850
El CANADINO
>>57483138
El CanadiANO
>>57482499
I didn't and I don't plan on it.
Yeah, but that's because it's between him (cunt), Hillary (massive cunt) and Bernie (commie cunt.)
>tfw rand dropped out
Yep, getting a MAGA hat shipped to me as we shitpost.
Yes. Maximum butt hurt extracted from this is paramount
>>57483297
Actually Albertans all wished they moved to Dallas. Texas is our second home :DDDD
>>57483001
lmao of couse jose is butthurt about trump
>>57483001
t. Increasingly Nervous Manuel
I'm disappointed, /int/
>>57482499
Yes
I wish there was politican like him in Bolan
>>57482499
Fuck no, with all the shit he says he will be an all talk no show president
No, Eastern Europe would be fucked if America was run by a total retard.
>>57482638
johnson?
>>57484616
lolbertarian candidate.
>>57482499
no, but i also wouldn't vote for the chicano or the others
good thing i don't have to
>>57484647
heh, absolutely disgusting
Sure, I just want to fuck everything up as quickly as possible.
>>57482499
Yes.
Not that him good but him far better than other.
>>57484103
>LALALALALALAL MEMES LALA NOTHING BUT LIES ALALALLALAALALA PROPAGANDA
>>57485174
I've never even seen a Hillary supporter.
Like can anyone show me one? It's all Trump and Bernie, with a few scared old faggots on Cruz.
If Hillary wins it's all the Jews.
>>57485593
middle age women love Hillary.
>>57482499
I wouldnt vote for him but I think Americans should
>>57485593
it doesn't matter
hillary will get the nomination and bernie supporters will all vote for her instead of trump
if you think for a fucking second trump has a chance to win in a country where 60% of the population is white you need to kill yourself, right NOW. republicans themselves called to vote democrat instead of trump if it came down to that
>>57482499
wouldnt
>>57482499
Against any conservative other than Kasich: Yes.
Against Hillary: Yes.
Against Bernie: No way.
I think once/if he gets the republican candidacy he will moderate a lot of his "policies" because the conservative vote will be locked in for him and he'll be going after the independent/swing vote who will like his anti-establishment rhetoric, ie. people like me. Tbh I doubt he'd do all that much as president.
>>57486176
>implying americans actually listen to policies
>implying he hasn't pissed off enough women and minorities to ensure he stands no chance, not even if he sucks Obama's dick to climax on live television in an act of repentance to the African-American people
>>57486323
I wouldn't discount how unpopular hillary is, and she has a lot of baggage. I think Sanders could very possibly do better against trump than clinton will.
>>57486176
>>57486323
this is why 4chan needs to die
>>57486323
He appeals to alphas in a nation of betas.
>>57486512
Yeah fair play, Hillary is such a fucking lizard-woman, the yanks truly have some horrific choices this year. I still think they demographics are pretty likely to fuck Trump but Sander's would probably do better against Drumpf if some of her nastier skeletons make an appearance
Getting registered just so I can vote for him.
Regardless of what happens at this point the political revolution is happening and I'm sure as fuck going to be able to say I participated in it.
>>57485593
> I've never seen a Hillary supporter
Because they're not voting for her because they like her. They're voting her because they're afraid of republicans winning elections (it goes with their "republicans are old white assholes who don't know the American people" narrative).
And they think Bernie will lose when it's discovered that 16 yr old can't vote
>>57486512
> Sanders would do better against him than Hillary would
Sanders would do better against anyone than Hillary would. He's got the left-populists working an amazing ground game.
>>57484647
>tfw libertarians will never win
>tfw will always be tread on ;_;
>>57482638
My stance exactly. Hate Hillary with a dying passion.
>>57486554
literally what was wrong with my post?
>>57486618
Trump will fucking hammer hillary on her baggage. And the thing is both Trump and Hillary are essentially full of hot air and dodge every question or just roll out rhetoric. But the difference is that Trump has charisma and people like his rhetoric.
>>57486660
That's optimistic.
>>57486791
After bernie had that sparrow land on his podium, someone needs to release some rats onto hillary's stage.
>>57486808
Unless the GOP destroys itself in this or the next election, like it's doing.
With the GOP broken up, another big party would have to take it's place, and the most likely party to do that is Libertarian
Absolutely,e and many other Israelis wish he was running for Prime Minister here.
>>57486994
Why? You guys already built your wall.
>>57486994
>Israelis wish he was running for Prime Minister here.
Why is that so?
If the republican party doesn't choose trump as their candidate then they have absolutely no future, they would be stabbing an already weary young republican demographic in the back after years of disappointment.
It's either Trump or bust for them, and they don't like that because Trump hasn't accepted any money from them, so they have no control over him.
Basically whatever happens means a drastic change in american politics in the future.
>>57482499
yes
>>57486893
>And the thing is both Trump and Hillary are essentially full of hot air and dodge every question or just roll out rhetoric. But the difference is that Trump has charisma and people like his rhetoric.
Yeah fair play son, if Trump manages to get a load of hillbillies who never vote out to the polls and grabs most of the white swing voters he'll have a shot, maybe even a realistic one if he somehow manages to win over minorities and women with a policy switch.
On a side note does anyone think that is Trump fails to get enough delegates before the Republican convention the party might get behind Kasich rather than Cruz if they try to oust Trump?
Cruz is also a shit-tier national election candidate, fuck knows where all his appeal is coming from
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAxgbNKtYrM
>>57487056
>conservative
>supports torture and execution of sandniggers
>wants to kick out illegals
>cut the funding to unnecessary organization
>less welfare
>>57487201
Oh look the media trying to Bash Trump again.
It's almost like the obscenely rich don't like candidates they have no control over. It's like Teddy Roosevelt all over again.
>>57487248
It would be nice to have more jews here if you wouldn't be snakepeople who try to kill us all
>>57487248
> israeli who gets it
We need you in the US telling Cruz he's a fucking idiot.
>>57487139
I don't think anyone but trump or cruz has a chance. It seems like they feel like they need to have a "real conservative" candidate.
And I think Cruz's appeal comes from him being the "not crazy" conservative guy, meaning not trump. Although Cruz seems sinister as fuck to me and his policies are way too conservative for me.
>>57487248
israeli politics is gross tb'h.
>>57487248
>implying it's not because he said he would build the embassy in jerusalem
>>57482499
Yes
>>57487446
>Cruz
>not crazy
when the most extremist candidate on the ballot is seen as the least crazy, you know US is doomed
>>57487446
>Although Cruz seems sinister as fuck to me and his policies are way too conservative for me.
I'm fairly conservative on the British scale and I think Cruz is pants on head retarded. His social policy is shit tier if you ain't an evangelical and his economic policy is based on this fantasy boom that's supposed to happen just because you inact a flat tax.
Republican party is in the toilet man, it's kind of sad
If I voted for Rajoy why wouldn't I vote for Trump?
Yes.
#Kanye2020
>>57487396
As I recall Germans tried to kill all the Jews, so let's calm down with that comment
I will but honestly I'm not too crazy about it.
>>57487588
>when the most extremist candidate on the ballot is seen as the least crazy, you know US is doomed
Sanders is honestly your best hope.
>>57487600
he's a schmuck, I'm a moderate leftie here so to me he's just awful
>>57487689
>Voting for Mariano "Corruption Ahoy!" Rajoy
>Espanhacucks
>>57482499
Are Americans forced to vote?
Everyone seems so shit i don't think i'd bother unless there's a fine for not doing it.
>>57487600
Republicans like to spout m-muh flat tax to dupe middle and low class Americans into thinking they'll be saving more, and that spending and the economy will increase. In reality, it's just a sham to make it so the rich pay less tax.
Also, watching the republican primaries is like watching Jerry Springer.
>>57487780
>moderate leftie
Shhhh mother fucker, we can't say that out loud here!
>>57487830
>voting Labour
No, fuck that Putin cocksucking populist flip-flopping fag.
I'm rooting for the true conservative and anti-establishment candidate.
I'm rooting for Ted Cruz.
>>57487396
>says the German
>>57487415
I wish I could desu
>>57487446
Name one politics that aren't gross
>>57487468
He said that??
>>57487780
>Sanders is honestly your best bet
Not really. I agree with his concerns (college is too expensive, criminalization of marijuana wad a mistake, etc) but not his "solutions"
The only nice thing is that he probably wouldn't be able to accomplish any of his extremist views in a moderate/right-of-centre congress
>>57487830
hi spaniard,i voted C´s dude
>>57487780
>>57487889
>REEEEEEEEE
jk. No one gives a shit. Even /pol/ has a left wing.
>>57488059
>moderate/right of center
I'm actually more or less okay with Hilary Clinton.
>relatively competent
>moderate, shill, will just go along with status quo and only pander to leftist retards when she needs their slavish support
>guaranteed to do something dumb to embarrass the democratic party and leftism in general
>decent brand name for the country, will be taken seriously and feared
Much better than a madman like Sanders or an actual joke like Cruz.
>>57487889
get fucked, /pol/ doesn't run /int/Although tb'h I do feel like some people are afraid or ashamed to say they're left around here. It's not like we're all SJW and regressive scum
>>57488029
israeli is extra gross and becoming more extreme
>>57488059
That's the thing about both Sanders and Trump, I don't think either one would be able to achieve all that much as president, but at least Sanders would try to improve thing and try to do good things (in my eyes). However Trump is unpredictable and many of his "policies" are likely unachieveable or flat out irrelevant.
Anyway it's 6am here now I'm going to sleep, night cunts.
>>57488314
I'm a leftist, too.
A National Socialist/fascist, to be specific.
Conservatism sucks.
>>>57488250
Let's not forget that the last president who was a former Secretary of State was Buchanan. i.e. Widely considered one of the worst Presidents to have ever taken office
(it's just a fun fact really)
>>57488229
Yes, I'm assuming that the congress remains as it is. GOP-controlled with "conservatives" who negotiate with the left-wing on a daily basis unless there's an election happening.
>>57488376
>>57488403
The smaller the sample, the more extreme the results will be. It's a simple statistical quirk, like fipping a coin and getting heads four times in a row. That kind of crazy stuff will never happen over 1000 flips.
>>57487924
>Voting Labour
You had other non-cuck options than a rotten old People's parties that lives off of the votes of rural pensioners and does nothing for the young, you could have voted for cidadanos like this la' >>57488100
Anyone who isn't a retard knows that Trump is the best candidate in the race, despite the fact that he has enormous flaws. If he went up against Romney and Obama he would lose easily, but today's presidential field is of extremely low quality.
Sanders is a communist retard with no grasp on economics, foreign policy, or anything really.
Cruz is legitimately insane, he thinks he is a prophet of God or some shit and his policies are even worse.
Kasich and Hillary are pretty corrupt but at least they have experience and they wouldn't ruin America too much. Both of them might start WW3 though judging by their stance against Russia.
Trump is the only one who wants friendly relations with Russia and talks about the enormous debt. Plus he's fun as fuck and his memes are great
>>57488439
>Negotiate with the left wing on a daily basis
They've literally been hamstringing everything the left has been trying to do, and threatening to shut down the government at the beginning of every fiscal new year. Do you really live in America?
I have a feeling that he'll be Bush 2.0 so l'll vote for him twice
>>57488314
> Sanders would do more than Trump
In social policy, I'd agree (though as an anti-abortion activist... hes a cunt). But Trump dominates business. And with the economy suffering, he'd be doing WAY better than a "tax the 1% at 90%" Sanders
How is UKIP viewed in the UK? Fucking mental?
>>57488585
I feel like Sanders has good intentions and that America could really benefit from reforming its healthcare and higher education to a more european fashion, but yeah, Saunders is economically retarded and doesn't even care about that.
If you wanna help poor kids go to college help them do that with grants and shut down shitty por-profit schools, don't make it free even for those that can afford it.
And his finincial transaction tax is just pointlessly difficult and disruptive, if we want to tax capital gains just do it, don't fuck around and jam the financial system's mechanisms with a load of sand
>>57488564
>They've literally been hamstringing everything the left has been trying to do, and threatening to shut down the government at the beginning of every fiscal new year
> do you actually live in America
Do you actually watch MSNBC/Fox all day?
Congressmen from both parties work together and negotiate deals daily. Threats like the ones you're referring to only occur when a particular party is trying to acquire national media attention, usually to push some other agenda like reelection.
Congress does more than what gets on tv, anon
>>57488859
>I feel like Sanders has good intentions and that America could really benefit from reforming its healthcare and higher education to a more european fashion
We have substantially different demographics and our social programs are by necessity completely different from yours, mostly in terms of the taxpayer burden that being a cutting edge world power creates.
>>57488314
>many of Trump's policies are unachievable
Same goes for Bernie, his economic policies especially are pants-on retarded
I honestly trust Trump more than Bernie. One is a successful business man who is pretty popular with his employees, the other is a career politician who has done nothing in his life.
Bernie is the american Tsipras
>>57488963
At least Tsipras is Greek and not some Jewish invader.
I already did
>>57488859
> I feel like Sanders has good intentions
Agreed. I agree almost entirely with his concerns.
> He's economically retarded
That's the problem. I'd rather a somewhat well intentioned idiot who knows business than a very well intentioned idiot with no knowledge of how the economy works
They're both lying scum of course, but who isn't in politics?
>>57488029
>He said that??
Yes he did
>>57488932
>mostly in terms of the taxpayer burden that being a cutting edge world power creates.
What the fuck does that even mean? You spend too much on your military, you could your defense budget by a third and still be completely unmatched militarily.
I accept you may have different requirements on spending due to your demographics but could you elaborate on that?
Would you vote for him?
>>57489043
>"Not my Pres"
>"I heard he was born in Poland!"
>"Show us your birth certificate, Saunders!"
>>57489106
True lad true. Fuck sake, why can't centre-left parties sort their shit out these days and just have sensible policies rather than being economic retards that pander to the lazy and minorities
Grinds me gears desu
>>57489215
>you could your defense budget by a third and still be completely unmatched militarily.
We spend what is required to stay relevant in the modern age, particularly vis-a-vis an aggressive China.
Military might isn't just what you get on paper, it's worth its weight in soft power. The ability to protect Japan from China, for example, completely changes the dynamic of our relationship with that country.
Defense is a rapidly changing frontier. China hacks our businesses and governments on an around the clock basis. AI is changing the ball game. The money isn't just some arbitrary sum warmongers decided on, it's what has been decided upon by our elected leaders who have far more information than we do.
>I accept you may have different requirements on spending due to your demographics but could you elaborate on that?
The social, economic and political burden of racial diversity is massive.
>>57489215
Different anon but..
Our social security is entirely gone to shit and there's no way to salvage it.
> aging population because women don't want to have kids anymore
>> UK dealing with that too but not as bad
> disabled vets EVERY WHERE that can't get health coverage
That just names two on the top of my head. SS is broken
>Hilary is going to be President and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>57489370
I'd vote for a president from Poland. I would never vote for a jew.
>>57489370
> why cant centre left
Hold on. Sanders isn't centre-left. He's left wing even by UK standards
>pandering to minorities etc
There's literally no other way for them to get elected in the US.
It's all about the gib me dat mentality over here
>>57489380
Speaking as a vet. America needs to fix it's shit before they worry about more military operations. We're suffering more counts of suicide than fucking Japan
>>57489725
Tell white men they're worthless and better off dead and create ZERO support for mental illness (especially in males) and they start killing themselves in droves.
Source: White male suicide rate is INSANE.
>>57489579
>He's left wing even by UK standards
Single payer healthcare and free higher education? Our conservatives were supporting both until 2010, only difference now if we get massively subsidised loans rather than totally free college but still.
What's Bernie's tax policy looking like?
>>57489380
>The money isn't just some arbitrary sum warmongers decided on, it's what has been decided upon by our elected leaders who have far more information than we do.
Ah yes, i'm sure it's a totally objective and impassionate decision, no vested interests what so ever
>>57485593
Womyn vote for her.
Also shitskins prefer her over Bernie.
>>57489834
It's more robust for your worldview to adhere to Occam's Razor and conclude that a conspiracy of the magnitude necessary for what you're describing is unlikely.
I would estimate that lobbying plays a role, but it's minimal, maybe in the low single digits in terms of percentages.
>>57489834
> Sanders tax policy
He first said something about 90% tax on annual incomes of $250000/household. Then sometime must of told him that's fucking retarded so he changed it to about 56%
>>57489904
>Occam's Razor
This isn't a Occam's Razor issue. I'm not saying that the figure you spend on defense isn't neccesary for your foreign policy aims. More that the foreign policy aims you have are a choice, you can't just say 'well buddy, we need all that do, look what we want to do with it', you can change your focus on what you do.
I don't personally care how much you spend on defense. Hell, it even benefits me and means the UK and NATO haven't gotta spend as much. But it's still a political choice of yours, not a strict necessity
>>57490019
Kek, that is jokes.
56% is still centre-left territory in my opinion though. Sorry bro.
If he follows the line of projecting US power outwards, if he manages to mess things up with traditional allies then the world will be in shit.
>>57490073
The government is an apparatus to maximize social utility for its people. Defense is the most elemental service government provides, but it is more aptly understood as 'power'. 'Power' is always a good investment that pays dividends beyond what 'defense' implies.
>>57490129
Changing it because someone called you out on it isn't
>>57490164
Our "traditional" allies are ass and they need to go
>>57490177
As yes, i forgot government policy simply involved plugging a load of number into a utilitarian equation
>Max U(Defense spending, Burgers, Freedums)
Sorry la', you win
>>57490429
Inferences are substituted in qualitative measurements buddy.
>>57490217
They are ass until they will start crying for America's help like WWI and WWII.
>>57490496
>implying you're not just spouting psuedo-intellectual non-sense
Let's just agree to disagree bro, and keep paying my world security bill, I appreciate it
>>57490582
>i don't understand it so its pseudo-intellectual
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_inference
>>57490573
Turkey and/or Israel and/or Saudis Arabia are going to start WWIII and drag us into it
>>57490633
I have an economics degree mother fucker i understand statistics
No, because I think about illegaly immigrate there lol
>>57490705
Not even a PhD in statistics would guarantee that fact. Some undergraduate nonsense degree certainly doesn't.
>>57490808
Is this some-Aussie tier distraction technique. You honestly believe the richest country in the world can plan it's government policy only through statistic inference?
>>57491252
No, I think every informed decision has at its core inference, which is an empirically robust technique that casts a bit of doubt on your "le utilitarianism can't be measured" shitposting.
Now ask this in /pol/
>>57491367
>he claims his autism is a 'science of everything'
That even being so, how are you justifying 'semi-empirically' the level of US defense spending? Where is your data, your sources of inference, your willingness to pay or revealed preference data of how people value defense?
You're either living in a fantasy world or don't have a fully developed arguement on defense policy. I can't really blame you for that since i don't either, i'm not some 4-star general
>>57482499
YES
E
S
>>57491815
You're confused. I justify my worldview by indirect inference. The mechanism of directly inferring the optimal military budget is beyond my access.
he's a meme candidate, so no
>>57486593
Then why does he appeal to /pol/ so much? He's saying he'll fix 'all the problems', instead of the nation solving it by itself. Only betas want that job want to be done for them.
>>57482499
No.
>this thread
>>57486886
You're a fucking turk why do you even care
>>57482499
Fuck yes.
>>57482499
No, I would vote for the guy who wears a wellington as a hat.
>>57482926
>>57482555
>Trump is so retarded u guize I mean yea he's a successful billionaire with a predicted 99th percentile IQ but he's totally retarded
>>57482499
Yes
Absolutely positive mah nigga
>>57482499
Fuck yeah
>>57494184
The iq thing is probably a lie but he is a great man, and even if he was stupid Trump is better than the other option that came from hell
>>57494184
Only stupid people care about IQ - some smart guy, probably Hawkins
>>57495019
>The iq thing is probably a lie
It's not, even people that hate him will bring it up but then say
>B-BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE'S INTELLIGENT ALL THE TIME
>>57494184
You actually believe that Trump has a higher IQ than Stephen Hawking? Holy shit, and I though Bernfags were delusional
