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>japanese """""""""""art"""""""""""
OK Yamaka-san, draw what you see but make it look flat and boring.
Yatta~ Yamaka-san, I shall hang this on my wall.
>>57469823
Sorry I painted it
Japanese are not good at painting obviously
Is that a giant pimple...?
that color scheme looks pretty good actually
you should have chosen just another typical one
>>57469823
that painting is incredible you uncultured slav shit
i bet you think that the transformers movies are the pinnacle of cinema you faggot
>>57469823
Van Gough was inspired by Japanese art.
Look it up.
>>57469953
Op's better.
>>57469925
wut
realism fags are seriously cancerous just neck yourself
>>57469977
Nah I'll take your word for it.
>>57469963
Yeah same kind of gradiant I used to do in MS paint when I was 7 years old... on fucking windows 98.
>>57469988
no
>>57469823
It looks nice. It may not have much depth, but it perfectly conveys the feeling of an autumn sun colouring Fujisan red in the early morning.
>>57470034
show us your work
please make a better one than this right now since youve already got the skill and are grown up
>>57469823
That's nothing. Have you seen modern Japanese art like manga and anime? It looks like dog vomit.
>>57470034
t.country that never produced a single notable artist in its entire history
>>57470260
I'm rubber, you're glue. Besides, the italian people are so changed from what they once were it's laughable that you take pride in "your" art.
>>57469823
How much would you guess for this picture painted by Korean?
>>57470326
revolting
Rate my Japanese minimalist Inspired desktop
>>57469823
you should know "Ukiyoe" painting is a kind of posters.
They were copied in milion sheets of papers and used for various way, packaging of glasses for example.
This is the art for people, not for celebrity.
>>57470383
Can you imagine this shit stain worth $400 million?
>>57470301
>I'm rubber, you're glue.
middle school level retort
>, the italian people are so changed from what they once were
typical answer to italian posts. aside from the fact that we fucking aren't. the genes are the same, the country is the same.
we still produce a massive amount of art and design
>>57470301
what a brat
show us your cg already or just kill yourself
>>57470326
go see a doctor
>>57470415
It's so fucking revolting I wouldn't even use it to launder money
>>57470415
Its 470 million yen. About 5 million dollar, so it's not quite that bad.
>>57469953
All that has been posted, and especially this one, is pretty damn well done. You guys just cannot appreciate good abstraction.
This thread is really un-productive.
I'll introduce some of Japanese traditional paintings.
1st.
"Children loves dogs." by Odano. 1770
>>57470455
Season 4 when
>>57470477
It is 4.7 billion yen.
>>57470526
>not posting this masterpiece
>>57470326
I like it. It is like a painted version of what you might see under a microscope.
>>57470654
BL is the major genre even now lol.
2nd.
"A Maple Tree" Hasegawa Tohaku 1590
>>57470670
You are fucking weird. You can see such cancer cells through microscope anytime.
>>57469823
>>57469953
>>57470051
All of these look really nice.
I'd love to have some posters with this [spoiler]:3[/spoiler]
>>57469823
That's actually very pretty. I gotta say, I receive some weird phallus-vibes from it though.
"A bird" Ito Jakuchu 1760's
This drawing has fantasic, spiritual, mysterious air a little bit. The main concept of Japanese beauty is "Yuugen." It means ghostlike, dreamlike, vanishing, illusionistic
He drew many works, but he loved to draw birds.
"Chicken and Pigeon" Ito Jakuchu
>>57471282
Why is that big black cock upside down
Do we have any Ukranian art to compare it to?
>>57469823
Is there a period where there is a marked change in style within Japanese art? I feel like japanese paintings suddenly gained a lot of depth after the 16th century. They must've been influenced by western paintings and techniques on perspective and color. It's interesting to see how techniques from both cultures mix and produce something new.
>>57471368
These two are fighting.
to make this motif more dynamic.
He hated camera-like realistic.
The movement or by his word, "fundamental function of thing" is the thing he wanted to draw.
>>57471454
Try to google it. Some shitty childish pictures.
>>57471561
Is it fighting or a courtship ritual? The other chicken looks like a female.
>>57469823
yamete oniichan
>>57470215
Drawing depth and shadow arent always a better way for this kind of ukiyoe and some art styles, especially anime/cartoon/graffiti style art, because instead of the way they can get and try other ways to draw like the shiny brightness on this. I prefer darker and atmospheric art getting a lot of shadows and depths but also like these shiny art.
While European artists regarded that to be realistic is to draw the accurate look of things, many Japanese drawers thought the accurate mood, or accurate impression of things is the reality.
We don't perceive the word as the sets of meaningless particles. We emphasize the some objects or ignore others.
Akita school tried to draw the world reconstructed by our perception(1775)
You could have noticed that the flower is too big if compared with the photo of the same place.
>>57471454
>>57472040
Also Japan didn't have the sophisticated techniques Europeans developed to create decent art. Seems like you forgot that part.
Filthy white pigs consider their "culture" is better than others. But in fact, they just imitated Arabian, Indian and Chinese culture.
Fuck off pigs.
>>57472120
you are right.
European had many techniques to draw realistic works.
In fact, Asia and Europe had already been tied in 16th century and many technologies and researches were communicated.
Sadly, our ancestors take European realism valueless, and didn't adopt it.
As You can see, paintings by Alita School have airs of European drawings.
But these skills were forgotten only 20 years later because their successors found this style not so attractive.
We had a chance to learn Europeans' advanced skills, and learnt once, and got rid of it.
Our different preferences explain this well than the lack of skills, i think
>>57472625
t. expat
>>57469823
>ukrainian """""""""""art"""""""""""
404
>>57469823
Looks like a pimple that was just popped.
>>57472040
I wouldn't generalize
All the impressionists in Europe tried to show what the scene feels like, rather than what it looks like
>>57472802
Isn't that the definition of impressionism? I heard the first impressionists were inspired by Japanese ukiyo-e prints and started the whole movement.
>>57472718
more like stolen
>>57469823
GIB ART BACK
>>57469823
Looks really nice, I don't get it
>>57469823
chochol art
>all art
>not equally stupid
This might sound like high autism, but I kinda figured a few stuff out. Basically, at the end of the day, things that can not be proven in a controlled environment (like a lab) using scientific method, those things are literally not even worth discussing. Those things can spiral into an infinite 'no u' discussion (if that even is an discussion). If there are no objective, absolute (I know everything is relative, but lets treat SI system as a system of absolutes for the purpose of this), measurable things, than literally no one can be right, not objectively at least.
tl;dr
no proofs = bullshit
in late 1700's, Japanese society wanted more comical motif.
in this time, the creator of culture were not bourgeois but the middle-class citizens. the new culture loved anime-like, manga-like motif.
"Cat and Cricket" 1790~1810
Aesthetics > Detail
A pile of shit is infinitely more complex than a crystal, but crystal is still more beautiful.
Picture in the OP isn't really good, but aesthetics are the best part of Japanese art, even if at the expense of detail.
>>57473098
>This might sound like high autism
Best part of your post, lad
>>57473098
This post is a philosophical disaster. You tried, at least, I don't want to put you down for no reason.
>>57473223
>philosophy
lel, philosophy is bullshit. Ask an actual intellectual about something, and he will say "its because [proofs]". As a quasi-intellectual (a philosopher, an artist) something, and he will say "its because I said so!".
Hence why all of philosophy is basically completely useless. If all philosophers in the world died, literally nothing would happen. If all medical doctors, engineers, chemists, physicists, etc etc died, the world would be basically returned to a pre-rock tools age.
Philosophers produce nothing, and they are worth nothing.
>>57473064
What's there to get? It's a flat painting of a volcano in an overcast day during dusk or dawn. That's all.
>>57473361
>has never heard of analytic philosophy
>>57473361
Dully noted
>>57470326
Interesting. It's very abstract. Hard to tell, but it looks like the... squares are forming a picture. Maybe it's just an inkblot thing but I can vaguely make out what looks like a cat. Or am I just crazy?
In1800's, Japan caught Ukiyoe fever.
Somehow ukiyoe is well known to Europe.
So I introduce you the aspect of ukiyoe not so known to the world.
Ukiyoe as a "people's" art
>>57473426
You mean like math? Or engineering? Or physics? Lad, those things already have a name. And people who do these things dont go around calling themselves philosophers.
Philosophy and art do not have a licence. You dont need a licence to practice art, or philosophy. Which is why being a philosophy/art/something else without a licence major at a university, it just means you are a complete fucking retard. In ideal world, these people would get Darwin'd out of economy, but we still keep them around for some (not economical, not useful) reason.
>>57473709
>1800's
Why are they all dressed like.... iron age people, in 1800's? Isnt Japan number one in consumer electronics and cars, you people can clearly do tech stuff, so why were you still killing each other with pointy sticks in 1800's? Where were your guns and cannons?
Ukiyoe is a poster art.
every corner of cities were covered with ukiyoe poster in our 1800's
many ukiyoe were written as a advertising poster of kabuki.
Kabuki is something like musical or opera.
Susanoo Mikoto
>>57473831
That's not iron age at all. They're dressed like people from the edo period. Also there were guns and cannons, and they were heavily used, although they're not present in that picture. Even after adopting gunpowder warfare (in the sengoku period -- there was no warfare in the edo period because the guy who started it was just that good at unifying and turned the country into a completely unified isolationist state) the samurai still wore swords as a mark of their caste.
Magatama
>>57469823
that kind of looks like a print made with wood cut outs.
Doguu
>>57474184
Yeah but I meant armor. I associate armor with iron age because it was effective back than. People quickly throw armor away in gunpowder age simply because it was heavy, expensive, inefficient in every way.
So its weird to me, that people who have some of the most advanced economies today do a really backward thing just 200 years ago.
>>57473831
After the catastrophic civil war with 500,000 guns in 15th century, Japan promulgated very strict gun-control law in 1588.
In edo-period, only hunters had guns and only samurai had the swords.
Police officers and samurais in usual time used sticks and sasumata instead of swords and guns
>>57472040
>>57472672
so when will you stop your bullshit. of course its free to post anything here. you can do it whenever you want to do.
but your bullshit has been becoming just an annoying mess on a thread like this, because of your "WE" and your pretentious exaggerations, and pointless excuses, and spamming.
let me tell you something, you NEVER represent japan. ive NEVER agreed with any of your bullshit. besides me, many japanese arent going to agree with your bullshit. just keep it in your mind.
>>57469823
Prolapsed anus spewing out cum
Are the people saying it's shit serious ?
This shit is beautiful.
The function of this kind of ukiyoe is similar with the poster of Cinema, Drama and anime.
the beginning of the modern popular culture
>>57474330
Very interesting. Why didnt the hunters just organize and took all the power for themselves at some time? Only they had guns, why didnt all hunters secretly band together and than go after the government/emperor/who ever was in charge and took the power for themselves?
![duplex[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NGHUUNO.jpg "duplex[1].jpg")
>>57474310
The Japanese made bullet-resistant armor which meant that they could keep wearing armor in warfare. The same happened in Europe but the difference was that Europeans developed more effective weapons faster than armor technology could keep up so they abandoned armor. Meanwhile, Japan's firearm technology had stagnated so they kept using outdated arquebuses and matchlocks from the Portuguese, which could not reliably pierce armor unless it's shot from a close distance.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?453098-Matchlock-vs-Armor
The best Nippon visuals are in their prefecture flags
>simple
>unique
>memorable
Vexillologists dream
>>57474825
The whole mascot thing seems kind of strange though. Japan has mascots even for police departments.
>>57474781
The dumbest shit this serb says...
The army had guns. How many hunters are there vs the army? The last time the peasants rebelled, they were put down with extreme prejudice.
>>57474781
Well the government military still had guns.
Japanese art is infinitely better than European art imo
sometimes less is more. OP's piece was obviously cherry picked to try and make Japs look bad.
>>57474999
Ukiyoe were continuously changed to modern popular art of Japan.
Even in the ukiyoe 200 years ago i can feel modern manga
>>57474999
whynotboth.gif
>>57475067
Your point? I'm sure I could find some "period blood" feminist art from Europe/USA, which is 10x worse than that.
>>57474999
I was about to make a joke about how Satan was taking shitposting lesson with australians but... That would be pretty horrifying.
Weapon-grade shitposting in the hooves of the Dark Prince ( WBUH ) is not something to joke around.
The artist addresses the viewer in the language of emotions. When the viewer learns that certain people have given one little queer fifteen million pounds to stretch out a huge imitation-leather cunt above an abandoned soccer pitch, he remembers what he does in his own life and how much he is paid for it, then he looks at the photo of this little queer in his horn-rimmed spectacles andfunny jacket, and experiences confusion and bewilderment bordering on the feeling that the German philosopher Martin Heidegger called ‘abandonment’ (Geworfenheit). The viewer is invited to concentrate on these feelings, which constitute the precise aesthetic effect that the installation attempts to achieve.
>>57472718
>russian """""""""""art"""""""""""
39$
![arnold_boecklin_-_island_of_the_dead,_third_version[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HjnyNaz.jpg "arnold_boecklin_-_island_of_the_dead,_third_version[1].jpg")
>>57470260
not so fast gypsy boy
>>57474518
This one is pretty cool what is it about
>>57473367
t.dumb fucking hockey fag
-when he said "i don't get it", he was talking about op making fun of the painting
-do you really think examining a painting like that stops at "a red mountain"? that's why americans never produced any art of value.
>>57475301
oh fuck, my bad he was from switzerland
>>57475301
H.R Giger made his own version of that
>>57475301
>arnold boecklin
he is not swedish you dumb fucking slav. also
>romanticism
>symbolism
deviant art tier
man why is this board so dumb today?
![blank[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/bJBrQN0.gif "blank[1].gif")
>ukrainian """""""""""culture"""""""""""
>>57469953
Comfy.
Japan has the 1500 years of tradition of emakimono, nobles with full of illustrations of scenes written in long rolled paper.
emakimino, ukiyoe, cartoons, disney... may create the modern manga-anime style.
i can't but thank this international age!
>>57475463
why are you mad at Ukrainians today?
>>57473955
Cool stuff, where can I get more HR japanese art ?
>>57473361
>>57473098
where is your proofs for this?
![Mucha_Japan2013_crop[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BFTgHwQ.jpg "Mucha_Japan2013_crop[1].jpg")
>>57475457
>>57475431
oh yeah, I aplogized
I pulled him straight out of my ass without checking his origins
>hating on romanticism and symbolism
thats why Italy gets just shittier and shitter
> russian """""""""""culture"""""""""""
It looks like a prolapsed anus with cum dripping out of it.
>>57475592
I guess I would go for the employment rates. Arts and philosophy majors are some of the least employable people globally. And most of their jobs are also unessential.
Meanwhile, useful people (medical doctors, engineers, etc etc) have extremely high employability, and also very high starting salaries.
Dont know if this is enough for you to accept as proofs. I defined worth in this case as employment rates (in the field), starting salaries, and how essential you are to your job (meaning when they start the budget cuts, you remain).
From a purely economical viewpoint, they are much less useful.. as a hobby, its as good as any I guess.
>>57475329
He is Monk Mongaku(1139-1203)
He was religious training himself in this wall for a month
He might die in this cold flow, so two angels tried to help him.
But he refused their offer for his training.
He acted roughly with bad manner, had really short temper.
He traveled rural areas and repaired the civil systems broken by the civil war in 1100's
>>57476014
>serbian """"people""""
>>57469823
It never ceases to amazing me why they are so prideful when in 2000 years they have contributed so fucking little to humanity.
I had remembered a story to see this thread.
One wealthy Russian merchant bought pictures in Paris at the early modern period.and he brought back to see those pictures for wealthy class friends.but no one understood the good quality of pictures that exhibited in anywhere Russian museum current day.
Of course,Ukrainian present day has good taste for pictures.hasn't it?
