The dutch is going to decide on referendum wether they want or not a trade agreement with Ukraine. A fucking trade agreement.
Why is west so egoistic and short-sighted, you realize Putin would love that land and people in a ressurected Soviet Union in a few years?
you realise loads of us want out of the EU? we don't feel responsible to carry east european shitholes and definitely don't want to pay for it
>>57463788
This is your own security. And the future of the whole region. What can be more important?
>>57463788
then take your companies the fuck out and enjoy moroccan dick guus
>>57463788
if european countries don't exercise their influence on foreign countries, then other major powers will.
>>57464065
Then let them
And leave us the fuck alone while we build our water wall and watch you all drown
>Ukraine wants to be in the EU
As if there aren't enough shit tier countries in it already.
>>57463962
all the your companies worth a damn are now letterbox companies(?) here evading tax ruining your own economy, ah yes very impressive
>>57463788
>we'll turn a trade agreement into an EU in-or-out referendum because we are retarded like that
Shut the fuck up sauce hollandaise, if you want to leave the EU then do a proper referendum like the UK and don't do some kind of pseudo-vote that does nothing but hinder the people that actually want to be part of it.
>>57464144
Believe us we we say we want to, everything has been going downhill since the EU.
>>57464164
Since 1958 you've declined? That's some long ass downhill path, why arent you Somalia yet?
>>57464098
Holland is not manly anymore. Only whine and bitch
>>57463740
>The Dutch are going to decide on referendum whether they want their gov to ignore the result of the referendum or not.
FTFY
>>57463740
It's not only a trade agreement. I suggest looking up article 10 for example, which descibes military cooperation between the EU and Ukraine.
This is one of the many reasons why I voted against.
>>57464098
You're dutch, how can you downplay the role of geopolitics in commerce like that? Do you not study your own country's history? Having foreign countries under direct dutch influence is what made your country great, you cannot possible believe that isolationism will work for the netherlands. If you guys don't have a strong presence and influence in the world, then you guys will slowly turn into a german vassal state, unable to fully in charge of your own future.
No matter how much you want to be alone, the harsh, cold, unfriendly and undeniable reality of the world is: Those who dont want to rule others are destined to be ruled BY others.
>>57464328
Good.
More jew trade monies for us.
>>57464484
Damn guy, I like you. You got a good attitude
>MH17 is shot down by Russia backed separatists
>Gee, we must punish Ukraine for this
You couldn't get any more pathetic than this, nethercucks
>>57463740
Switzerland held a referendum on whether horned cows should also receive farm subsidies, as do non horned cows.
>>57464484
Absolutely right.
Isolationism is an illusion. You CANNOT shut the world out if you want to trade with it. If you don't influence events then they influence you.
Also, can I just make the observation that rewarding the Russians for what they did like this, especially to the Dutch, is completely perverse. If this thing is blocked by the Dutch public then I will think less of that country.
>>57464596
I mean, I could understand this referendum in any other EU country, but this is just so incredibly ironic
>>57464537
Fuck you, Polack.
You ain't getting shit.
>>57464596
>punish
>all ukranian companies leaving to tax havens to avoid tax even more than before
>deluding the ukranian people thinking this will be good for them
>>57464484
this actually makes sense even though it's most likely a shitpost.
>>57464669
>mfw the merchant fears competition
we want monies too, we will not give up until we drain our ex-clay out of them
>>57464705
>poland
>competition
>>57464682
Do you know what lead to the revolution, Crimea annexation and Donbass conflict?
It was this very association agreement that you pathetic cuckolds now want to block
>>57464728
did ukraine help out with mh17? no so they can fuck off
let them get their country in order they definitely need a revolution seeing the state of their corrupt politicians THEN and only THEN i'll consider liking it
not that this referendum will do anything it was just to see we can hold referendums in our country
I voted against it. Fuck eastern europe 2bh. Putin should annex it.
voted no
>>57463740
Few years is too late, please give us USSR II with Stalin II right now or Germany, America and EU will destroy the continent.
>>57464716
Regarding the Ukrainian market, last time I checked, you got SHOT DOWN
keep shooting down seajews ruskies
liberate the skies
Voted nee. There is nothing to trade anyway. Get fucked by Putin.
The left wing is trying to boycot the referendum, so the minimum requirement of 30% of the voters might not be met.
Why do they boycot the referendum? Because the majority of the people are going to vote AGAINST the treaty.
>>57463740
The reason is simple. The Dutch think with their wallets.
Ukrainians are poor and corrupt. Which means the EU will force us to pay for them.
Corruption might even mean we get another Greece in the EU, which Dutch people have a trauma from.
And in return we get Ukrainians criminals and migrants, who are worse than Poles.
So, no!
https://twitter.com/RHvL88/status/717591129584222208
>>57464654
And I'm sure they'll take that to heart, random anonymous internet person.
>>57463740
This thread is full of faggots trying to mock the Dutch for not being cucks.
Let's bring this Union down together Nederbros
NEE
>>57465321
That's why you'll die out.
A trade agreement with ukies is "cuck" for you but getting muzzies to rape your kids is not.
Your world view is upside down.
>>57465197
The Dutch government has been trying to corrupt this referendum is so many ways.
They removed voting boots.
They made the voting bill in such a way that you can easily make the wrong part red, making your vote invalid.
Calls not to vote so not enough people vote.
Outright lying about the contents of the treaty, denying the existence of clauses about military cooperation for example.
They tried to avoid talking about the existence of the referendum. And downplayed it.
They didn't want to fund the against campaigns in time and as well as the in favour campaign so there was little time for that campaign.
>>57465385
Anything EU is cucked as fuck
>>57465416
There are even villages with 1000+ people where the regular voting boot was closed. So they had to travel to a village a few miles away.
>>57465385
>on western tit for a decade now with no end in sight
>get mad when you have to share it
Fucking eastern europeans I swear to go you have no self awareness
>>57465296
Just wanted to get it off my chest
FUCK THE EU
it should be a trade agreement not political shit forced down our throats giving all the money to corrupt eastern europeans
The best thing is that this referendum was called for by a satirical website - about a random subject - to prove how undemocratic the EU is.
>>57465321
This.
Based Nigel Farage was even here to tell the EU to get fucked.
>>57465482
3% of our gdp comes from EU so fuck off you brainless maggot, there are literally western European countries that get more EU money then us per capita.
>>57465662
Good joke.
>>57465575
At first everyone, including our politicians, were like: lol why do we care about this random treaty?
And then tension started building up. And the spastic government started acting up to stop democracy at all costs.
>>57465694
You're too umb to even know I'm not joking.
Jesus Christ this board is fucking brainless, it's like a nursery for loud, obnoxious morons.
>>57465416
well good luck guys, but it seems that 30% quorum is safety measure as always
I will just die soon in some shit war against ruskies because Schulz kike wants to
>>57465385
Why would we want a trade deal with ukrainians?
You will die out because all your women comes here to uncut our prostititues
When are voting Pooland out of the EU?
netherlands exit from the EU when?
>>57465842
Soon, henk.
>>57465854
Geert Wilders, who's as big as the two ruling parties combined in the polls, says he'll follow whatever the British will decide in their referendum, if he comes to power in 2017.
But reality is we'll never leave the union with Germany. Wanting open borders with Germany is an unbeatable obstacle in the Netherlands.
That's why our goverenment also suggested a mini-schengen with only Germanic countries.
>>57465854
Sooon.
>>57465938
trade union is good thing too bad it comes with all that EU shit
>>57466004
Yeah I agree.
>>57463788
>letting Russkis cuck your sphere of influence
This is why a Federalised EU will never work.
The Americans will happily go to war over a small Pacific archipalego most of them have never even visited, let alone know people from. But it's America, which is all that counts.
Meanwhile Western Euros don't give two shits about a major diplomatic partner and geopolitical asset only a few countries East, with whom they share a continent, religion, culture, values, ethnicity etc. You'll happily throw them to the dogs and say "not my problem", meanwhile accepting millions of foreigners from completely alien and hostile cultures.
Please vote Yes! You are crashing the EU with no survivors!
>>57465938
We're the biggest trading partner of Germany. And the biggest investor in Germany. And everyone knows that.
>>57464796
they had a revolution for that exact purpose...
They wanted democracy and EU.
Then Putin invaded for dat Crimean port.
>>57464484
I have a new found respect for Italy.
Dutchanon get btfo.
>>57466109
>with whom they share a continent, religion, culture, values, ethnicity
kek
How is life on the other side of the fucking planet?
>>57466127
https://www.destatis.de/EN/FactsFigures/NationalEconomyEnvironment/ForeignTrade/TradingPartners/Tables/OrderRankGermanyTradingPartners.pdf?__blob=publicationFile
>>57466130
they got promised they will live just like average european meaning the germans if they will go with EU
they got played like a fiddle
and they will also get muslims as welcoming gift
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fobozrevatel.com%2Fsociety%2F56813-na-kievschine-planiruyut-poselit-sotni-migrantov-iz-sirii-sotsseti-negoduyut.htm
>>57463740
Either I'm going with yes or blank vote
Yes side are going to lose though, but this is a shitty unclear referendum anyway
>>57466170
Moreso than the millions of Moroccans, Algerians, Pakistanis, Iraqis, Iranians etc. you let stream into your countries. You seem so concerned with helping them but none of you give two shits about Ukraine which is much closer in every way; geographically, culturally, ethnically. Beyond a simple humanitarian interest, it's an incredibly important geopolitical buffer between yourselves and the Russians. Controlling Ukraine is vital to containing future Russian aggression, if you can't see that than you deserve the Europe you'll be getting in years to come.
Pathetic.
>>57466197
China overtook our imports. We must invade China.
>>57466269
Enjoy your Ukrainian car thieves and Greek crisis 2.0 Ukranian boogaloo.
>>57466279
Idiot.
>>57466269
>or blank vote
game changer right there m8
>>57466317
"ok"
>>57465251
This is not accepting UA into the union in any way, not even tourist visa waiver. You have the same type of agreement wit Jordan and Algeria. And that's what makes it especially pathetic.
Anyone who would want to deal with EU or European countries from now on will be rightfully seen as laughing stock. Penny-counting refugee-loving bastards
>>57466130
The eternal Russian mission for warm water ports.
Maybe Putin just needs a nice day at the beach to calm down.
>>57466307
I will :^)
>>57466379
Cry harder Vladimir.
>>57466379
> Penny-counting refugee-loving bastards
Lol and still the EU is richer, has less muslims, lower hivs/aids and abortion rates, much lower alcohol consumption and in general better than Russia in absolutely every possible way.
>>57466379
It certainly is a set up for the ascension of Ukraine. And goes way beyond similar treaties we have with other countries. Some politicians have already confirmed that.
This treaty also covers visa free traveling, financial support, worker migration and military support.
>>57466379
http://uatoday.tv/news/european-commission-says-ukraine-ready-for-visa-free-regime-with-eu-556766.html
also turks will get visa in around same time. add to that millions african pouring in. goodbye europa
Lol at the Dutch if they really think they can compete with isolationism on an international level
Do you really think you can compare your german vassal state with Britain ?
Are you this delusional ? The Uk has a goddamn Anglosphere worldwide, Canadians and Strayans bleed for the empire not even a century ago
Do you think Indonesia feels Dutch ? IT IS pathetic to even think about behaving like the literally biggest influence of a country in the last 400 centuries
>>57466724
>Ukraine has 45 million people
>the economy of 1 of our 12 provinces
They can't even buy our products.
>>57466724
No brown dicks to suck ar the moment?
>>57466776
Nominal is relevant for international trade. They are literally angola tier. Except Angola is with 24 million people, so the are almost double as rich.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29
>>57466379
>what was the association agreement with Croatia
>>57466916
>country is in the middle of war and cataclysm
>all he thinks about is immediate profits
Literally Dutch are the worst
>>57467193
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_Association_Agreement
>>57463740
Khokhol, pls.
>>57467552
Чини дeтeктop
>>57464484
>Commerce
Trade with Ukraine is only 0,1% of Dutch international trade. Meanwhile, the treaty promises political support for Ukraine, which will cost billions of Dutch tax euros, and more open borders between the EU and Ukraine, meaning more Ukranians can immigrate to the EU. Financially we're better off if we nope out of this deal.
>>57466724
>muh empire
It collapsed and doesn't mean shit in today's world.
>>57467668
Gordyi Ukrainec, pls.
>>57467397
As if it has been much better anywhere between 1991 and 2014
Voted against. Suck my tiny dick.
While I agree the Russian menace must be stopped, this referendum isn't about Ukraine, it's non-binding. A vote for no is against the EU. Anyone who is sane would be against further integration. The EU's end goal has been stated multiple times to become a single European superstate (Only the UK gets a opt-out). I want my country to exist in a century, not be just another backwater province of Europe where they speak French and English instead of Dutch.
>>57465251
Dutch suck at enterpreurship
Ukraine presents business opportunities, which in time will surpass costs
>>57465251
This post is retarded. We don't think with our wallets. I have no idea what could possibly give you this idea.
>>57463740
Fuck the western assholes
I say assist Ukaraine any way possible into the eat
Force Ukraine down EU's thnroat till they've had enough. :D
>>57467948
>Ukraine presents business opportunities
Ukraine is a shithole with widespread corruption, an ungoing civil war and next to no economy. What "opportunities" does Ukraine present?
>>57467948
What, farming? We have already more than enough of that and are above self-sustainable
Heavy industry? Chinashit will remain cheaper for years to come
>>57468033
>next to no economy.
You said it yourself. You cant get better opportuinities
So everyone but the Netherlands backs this deal up? Doesn't the EU have enough gopniks as it is?
>>57463788
>we
then how would you flood europe with your shit products at dumping prices?
>>57468033
But thew EU is already corrupt as fuck, may as well add fuel to the fire
wait are we going to add Ukraine to this fire.
Thats a Chernobyl 2.0!
Just give Poland and Ukraine back to Russia. It was a good joke but it's not funny anymore.
>>57468090
Again, this referendum isn't about the deal with Ukraine. People are voting "no" because it is a non-binding referendum concerning the EU.
Why does every union we join end up going to shit shortly afterwards?
>>57468147
"no"
Just give Poland and Ukraine to Lithuania.
FUCK THE EU
FUCK MUSLIMS
FUCK REFUGEES
FUCK SLAVS
FUCK ALL YOU WHITE KEKS
>>57468225
Dit
>>57468179
It's not your fault Croatfriend, the union has been going downhill since 2008.
>>57468251
>downhill since 2008.
thats about the time we entered the EU
Please yuro comrades, have more russian jews, it's on us. :3
>>57468147
>Just give Poland and Ukraine back to Russia
>Poland and Ukraine
>Poland
pls no
>>57468225
t.giorgino danielson
>>57468225
This tbqh.
Je Maintiendrai, Luctor et Emergo, L'union fait la farce, etc. etc,
>>57467946
>where they speak French and English instead of Dutch.
This will happen regardless, almost the entire population already speaks English fluently, it's only a matter of time before educational institutions start offering English only tuition (focused towards the global market). Icelandic is in danger of dying out and being replaced by English, the Netherlands, Sweden etc. are not too far behind.
![rifornimenti-di-gas-naturale-a-rischio-un-quarto-del-fabbisogno-energetico-ue-viene-dalla-russia-e-l-80-di-questa-quota-dai-gasdotti-ucraini.aspx_[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/nlamoLo.png "rifornimenti-di-gas-naturale-a-rischio-un-quarto-del-fabbisogno-energetico-ue-viene-dalla-russia-e-l-80-di-questa-quota-dai-gasdotti-ucraini.aspx_[1].png")
>>57468033
Major trade route between europe and russia, whoever exercises the most power and influence in ukraine will also have power over countries that need the gas that passes over that country. Also, they produce a shitton of food.
They have a huge potential. Not getting involved and handing it over to russia would be foolish
>Because Ukraine possesses 30% of the world's richest black soil, its agricultural industry has a huge potential. [...] The agricultural industry in Ukraine is already highly profitable, with 40-60% profits,[81] but according to analysts its outputs could still rise up to fourfold.[82]
>Ukraine is the world's 6th largest, 5th if not including the EU as a separate state, producer of corn in the world and the 3rd largest corn exporter in the world.
>>57468190
>Just give Poland and Ukraine to Lithuania.
>Poland
no, poland can go to russia
>>57468318
>thats about the time we entered the EU
Poland, you entered in 2004
>Polish education
>Please yuro comrades, have more russian jews
Russia is disgusting.
>>57468380
When Ukraine joins the EU, the italian mafia can kiss it's power level goodbye, comrade
Dont say no one warned you.
EHEHEHEHEHEHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-jOMdC4BI&nohtml5=False
>>57468318
But you entered the EU in 2004.
>>57468251
just our luck I guess
>>57468377
This is indeed the case, and, dare I say, inevitable. But I don't have to like it. Going against the EU will somewhat stall it.
>>57468380
Well we built things like Nord Stream exactly for that - not having to deal with transition cunts where there's political instability or where they could blackmail us, charge fees however they please (latter is the reason Polan got so butthurt about it)
And as I said earlier, EU farming is already saturated
>>57468435
>italian mafia can kiss it's power level goodbye
Italian mafia is irrelevant these days anyway, the Albanians and ex-Yus run shit.
We need a wall.
>>57468552
>the Albanians and ex-Yus run shit.
>straylians shitposting again
when does it end with you guys?
>>57468632
t. living in the 90s
>>57468745
HAHAHAA as if you have the faintest clue about such matters down under there. m8
fuck off and go make an easter thread.
>>57468508
We got butthurt about it because you signed nord stream 2 during the sanction period AND by the fact that it will block big ships from docking in 2 of our bigger ports.
![Arable_en[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/CuCAvWp.gif "Arable_en[1].gif")
>>57468435
I'm not saying we need to hold hands and be friends with Ukraine, all I'm saying is that they are a valuable geopolitical asset and should be kept under european sphere of influence. Not only they produce a bunch of food themselves, but they are very close to where russia grows *its* food. Having an european military presence in eastern ukraine, pointed at the bulk of russian farmable land would put russia in the shittiest possible situation EVER, and would be great for europe. You as a pole should be particularly interested in that.
>>57468552
they still are pretty big desu
POST YFW WE FREE THE MOLUKKERS FROM INDONESIAN REGIME
POST YFW THE MIGHTY ORANGE STATE OF THE AFRIKANER PEOPLE RISES ONCE AGAIN
POST YFW BOUTERSE IS OVERTHROWN AND SURINAME FLOURISHES ONCE AGAIN UNDER DUTCH GUIDANCE
POST YFW FLANDERS IS ANNEXED AND BRUSSEL IS CLEANSED OF ITS' FRANCOPHONE DISEASE
POST YFW ALL FILTHY MUSLIMS ARE DEPORTED FROM OUR REBORN EMPIRE
BROEDERS, VOOR VADERLAND EN GLORIE, STA OP.
>>57468859
Poland needs to stop listening to the bullshit EU regulations that are mainly designed to destroy our economy, nothing more.
fuck goymoney and their games.
Time to do whats in OUR interests....not theirs
>>57467887
He is a liberal, so he just shitposting(or maybe trolling, it hard to tell them appart).
>>57463740
It's not a mere trade agreement you misinformed shill
>>57468508
There are markets other than the european one
>>57468377
>thinking traditionally multilingual countries will somehow suddenly become monolingual
no
>>57468380
Oh wow, fucking corn!
Guess who the third largest agricultural exporter in the world is? It's us. You don't need vast amount of land to grow produce.
>>57468891
IK ZAL HANDHAVEN
>>57468854
>countryball roleplaying
epic blog, you should retweet this on 9gag
>>57468886
Sure, but in recent years many of the Italian mafias have lost ground comparatively to the Albanians. Both Sicilian mafia groups and the ‘Ndrangheta are believed to have franchised out prostitution, gambling, and drug dealing in territories along the Adriatic coast to the Albanians. The Albanians are also one of the most globalised mafias in the world, operating in or having connections to every major country on earth.
>>57469064
dint I already tell you to go fuck yourself you spawn of a pirate convict?
go suck your brother's penis or something
>>57468380
>They have a huge potential.
That's what they said 25 years ago...
>>57469115
Because it's true. Ukraine is a very poorly managed country but the potential is there
I like how everyone completely generalises what this referendum is about
>you don't want to pump money into a state with rampant corruption ergo you must be against international trade
You're all fucking deluded, don't talk about things you dont know anything about
>>57469197
haha kknurt
>>57469197
Waar denk je dat je bent?
>>57469152
Russia has probably more potential, but "potential" doesn't help you in this world.
>>57469197
>t. non-taxpaying autismbux profiteur
>>57465555
A unified euroe would be the most powerful country on earth. Why don't you wanna be a part of that?
>>57469152
good post
>>57468435
sad post
>>57468225
>>57468147
shit post
>>57469288
Ga lekker in je Nederdraad schijten. opgekankerd.
>>57468891
IK ZAL HANDHAVEN
>>57469292
>A unified euroe would be the most powerful country on earth.
sorry mario, but WW2 already sealed the fate of a "unified yurope"
lets at shitty mess, shittaly, are you not seeing that it's falling apart?
It's every goyim for himself and no one trusts each other.
Nah, fuck your socialist dreams
>>57469292
>the European Union in its current state
>powerful
>>57469306
If it makes you feel any better, I'd vote for a trade agreement with Ukraine and I'd be happy to let you guys in eventually.
>>57469306
>sad post
Nah I think its a good post, shittaly needs its shit tucked in but good. And I believe Ukranians can do it.
What is interesting that many western europeans think EU system is hurting their countries because
>hurr we have to pay 3 billion to agriculture budget while only receiving 2,8 billion
Enjoy exporting your products to new zealand, China and indonesia and making buck of it
>>57469383
the thing is though, the ukranian people get absotely nothing out of this, its mainly big businesses and corrupt politicians that are going to profit
>>57466724
The ironic thing is that the UK's extra international heft is the strongest argument for us to remain in the eu
>>57469356
>sorry mario, but WW2 already sealed the fate of a "unified yurope"
I'd argue it took an event like that to even make a "unified yurope" remotly possible.
>united states of europe
>>57469420
>a little bit of profit is somehow less than -200 million
>>57463740
trade agreement my ass!
It is an association agreement with the EU!
In it is says that Ukraine gets unrestrained financial aid meaning that they become Greece 2.0 but with more corruption and less sun.
It also has a clause for military aid in terms of conflict, and no fucking way my blood is going to be spilled for EU or the Netherlands because bureaucrats want to poke Putin and band of bears.
This agreement is a provocation towards Russia, and fuck that shit. Instead of working with Russia, the only thing the EU does is fuck around. Fucking assholes, imagine a European continent where West and East work together.
What the fuck does Ukraine want to trade with. Only shit they have is grain. They are like Zimbabwe of Europe. This just means a one-sided trade flow where only rich fucks can make cash off.
There is still a civil war going and corruption in this country makes Somalia seem like a Utopia.
Nah, fuck the Ukraine and fuck the EU. I voted no and fuck everyone that dissagrees with me.
>>57464596
i have absolutely no idea what this is about: the post
>>57469427
Yes they do benefit. They want closer ties to the EU. They want the investment, the trading opportunities, the influence of European institutions and values, not just for their intrinsic benefit but to act as a counterpoint to the Russian influence which they detest.
Don't act like you're doing then a favour. Vote no if you want but be honest about what you're doing to them, don't delude yourself
>>57464227
We were never manly. We make profits through all means. Ukraine trade agreement is not profitable for us on the short or long run.
>>57469427
I'm not really a proponent of trickle-down economics, but the Ukranian people would profit from the resulting economic growth eventually.
>>57464925
Is this famous Hungarian goulash?
I literally voted less than half an hour ago.
Guess what?
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>>57464484
>An African refugee thinks that this association agreement is a trade agreement.
Italians in charge of commerce.
>mfw I covered up the EU flag on my driver's license and my license plats with polish stickers
Were you planning this vote before or after the MH17 happenings?
Fuck everything eastern 2bvh
>>57464596
Seperatists that are Ukrainians. So Ukrainians shoot down a passenger aircraft. We should have nothing to do with them.
>>57469699
After but it has little to do with the referendum. No one uses that as an argument.
>>57469717
idiot.
>ukraine shoots down MH17
>Government says it's Russia's mistake
>we know better.jpg
>we demanded a referendum against Ukraine
>government can't do anything
Haha hahaha
FUCK YOU
>>57469717
Jesus Christ even the Russian government has admitted there are """"volunteers"""" in Ukraine
>>57463788
This
We don't care about Ukraine dipshits
>>57464705
Hmmm
>Ukraine enters EU eventually
>Ukraine is dirt cheap in labor
>Ukraines flood the market, replacing Poles everywhere
>Foreign businesses move from Poland to Ukraine
>No one gives a shit about Poland anymore
>Poland asks for money from Germany
>Germany agrees but only if Poland opens doors for refugees and migrants
>reluctantly does so
>Poland now can become diverse
I think I just figured out the German master plan. This makes me hate Germany now!
>>57464484
This anon is right. I'm Dutch and I too think the referendum is retarded. It looks like a hoax that escalated a bit beyond control, by a site of which the only good part is the part that has funny videos.
Their journalism branch only aims at controversy, this stupid populist abuse of their democratic rights serves only to get them attention.
I won't be home for the referendum, but even if the people vote against the trade agreement the government can still pass it, and we better hope they will.
>>57464484
You realize this association agreement is not the difference between "having countries under your influence" and full-blown isolationism?
It's fucking Ukraine, a country worth a twentieth in GDP of the Netherlands.
>>57469817
Yes. Like USA and EU in Syria with "moderate" rebels.
Just voted twice. Once for my dad.
Both votes were against.
>>57469943
Have a (You)
>>57469956
You realize the difference is technical right? In Ukraine you can buy the same Big Mac for a fraction of what it would cost in Netherlands
>>57466130
>they wanted democracy
Lmao
>and the EU
Who is "they"? The DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED government of Ukraine got unconstitutionally coup'd.
>>57466379
Oh yes, I remember that the agreement we have with Jordan and Algeria also means we have to help them military and give unrestricted funds whenever they need them.
>Russians in charge of agreements
>>57469692
Why exactly do Poles hate the EU?
You get more money out of it than you put in and you don't have immigrants, two of the main things EU sceptics in the west complain about.
>>57470110
Bedankt maat
>>57470156
literally the same question
>>57466379
>it's only a minor invasion of Afghanistan! Home by Christmas!
No it's way more than that and it will inevitably lead to way more than that.
>>57469943
>we better hope they will
Mark aub
>>57467948
They present Greece 2.0.
>>57470141
And they have next election without "problem" regions.
>>57470269
In the Netherlands they represent the worst of Russians, Poles and Greeks.
>>57469663
we literally invented commerce you jew
I'm going to vote now. Get lube up Ukraine. And get rekt.
>>57463740
And this is the reason why referendums are absolutely stupid
>>57470322
Taking credit from the Jews.
Oh how low the Italians have fallen. Fuck that, I bet the Italian doesn't even exist. Probably a mixture of Germanic barbarians and African refugees
>>57470404
Does that mean we're Italians now?
>>57469420
We are already doing that fuckstick
>>57470402
If they are non-binding that is yes, but fuck it. We got this mechanic, atleast let us use it to fuck with it.
A referendum that is binding is pure democracy, its just that the powers that be in every 'democratic" country like to be told what to do, by there own population.
That is why parlemental democracies are just tyrannies with a silver lining of "free will"
>>57470404
Italians did invent banking and financial jewery though.
>>57465722
see >>57468094
you're by far the biggest leach in the EU. And per capita is Hungary ,although that might have changed to some meme cunt like Cyprus or Luxembourg
>>57470449
In the end, yes. We are all Italians, but atleast we aren't fucking manlet wookies.
>2.10m blond hair master race reporting in.
>yfw an Italian needs to look up to speak to you
>>57470322
>Eastern Europe is literally becoming richer than Southern Europe
BTFO
>>57469625
yes we put dutch fags into ovens
spread a little bit of german over it
spice it up with snowniggers
leave brits out because they ruin the whole meal
>huge opportunity for trade guys!!
>trust us they won't be like Greece!
>>57470535
Jews/Hebrews have been shrewd merchants since the beginning time.
However if we define banking by history then the old Chinese or Mesopotamia were the first. If we define by "modern" than the merchant states were the first, but did they call themselves Italians or did they identify themselves as a person from that city?
>>57470719
War spendings. By the way, Greece is agricultural and tourism oriented state.
>>57470719
The worst is the corruption, Ukraine is by far the most corrupt European country. Every fucking penny that is going to towards Ukraine would be just a waste and going into the wrong pockets
http://www.transparency.org/cpi2015#results-table
>>57470942
>war spendings in two regions caused 40% of Ukraine's economy to be lost
Did you not notice all the time before the crisis? Ukraine's economy has been falling since 2012. It is lower than it was in 1991.
Didn't their government steal some paintings out of a museum here to blackmail us in voting yes?
>>57471070
Yep.
The niggers of Europe.
Vote NO for the future of your country Dutchbro's
I'll vote against. Putin benefit, we benefit = win win situation.
>>57470998
It's more corrupt than Russia, and there is no association agreement with Russia.
Russia also is 6x richer per person.
If Ukraine should get an associatioj agreement, then shouldn't Russia as well? No because this is a geopolitical ploy. Not an economic decision.
>>57471070
Yep, but maybe not with that in mind.
>>57471219
This. The whole issue is a geopolitical battle to increase EU power. NOT to increase European wellbeing.
>>57471070
some ukrainian oligarch was responsible for that, the works have probably already been sold on the black market or something.
In 6 hours we know if enough people appeared or if the sour left media succesfully boycotted the referendum.
>>57471382
Every Ukrainian oligarch is connected or in the Ukrainian government.
I mean, their president is literally a former Commie gone oligarch.
>>57471014
Sure. But dutchman tearing his ass here to keep continue Ukrainian partnership with Russian economical "experts".
>>57471490
I never understood why those people dont just crown themselves King.
>>57471520
how does it feel to have the future of your country in the hands of some greedy seajews?
pmt kanker
I refuse to vote, because both options are poison.
Voting YES means that the EU border is practically expanded to the second poorest country in Europe, a war zone, a land ripe with refugees who wish for a better life in the west (Although white and Christian) who'll flood the western labour sectors (undermining our own people). This will be a drain on our economy, and don't forget Putin has his eyes set on Greater Russia.
Voting NO means we let a fellow European, white and Christian country in the dirt, denying Ukraine EU resources to rebuild.
It will also give Putin green light on a proper invasion.
We'll also miss out on Ukraines mighty fertile soil.
But even if we vote NO, I'm pretty sure they're going to fucking circumvent it like they did with the EU Common Constitution being turned into the Treaty of Lisbon.
Plus I accidentally threw away my voting ticket.
>>57471520
Funny how Ukraine was richer with Ukraine in 1991 than it has been at any point since. It's only been downhill for y'all since then.
>>57471929
I hope thats not you
Guys what should I vote?
>>57472028
>TU Delft
nerd pls go
>>57471929
>It will also give Putin green light on a proper invasion.
Umm why? If anything it's the other way around because this agreement is neither NATO nor military oriented.
>>57472028
Vote YES!
NETHERLANDS
YES!
please delete this thread its pure cancer, janny w RU
>>57472047
pls no bully
>>57472028
het liefst tegen, maar ga iniedergeval stemmen voor de 30% ja of nee
>>57472028
Tegen natuurlijk. De EU heeft al genoeg problemen. Geen reden om nog meer problemen te importeren.
>>57464815
>>57464838
Voted yes. Felt gooooood.
>>57472217
>De EU heeft al genoeg problemen. Geen reden om nog meer problemen te importeren.
Dit is net zo'n jankargument als dat we door zo'n associatieverdrag oorlog zullen krijgen met Rusland.
>>57472048
>implying
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dennis-j-kucinich/ukraine-nato_b_4435637.html
http://journal-neo.org/2015/03/12/eu-association-agreements-nato-expansion-by-other-means/
>>57470719
You can literally hire en educated white man for a 200/bucks a month full time. For 1000 bucks you can have a team of 5 people. All short flight from Europe. Isn't that opportunity?
>>57472273
Same money could hire 20 chinks
>>57472261
It is not NATO you stupid fuck. It's an association agreement. Even if this happens, the military alliance situation for Ukraine (none) is the exact same as it was in 2013.
All it would mean is that Ukraine is moving towards NATO, and therefore Russia should act before it happens.
>>57472253
beter als het gemiddelde ja argument
>muh handel
>muh poetin
ga aub weg mr pechtold
>>57471314
Power IS wellbeing
>>57472253
Het is een samenvatting.
>>57472273
I'm usually not a big fan of gay orgies, but I guess for that price who wouldn't take it?!?
>>57464596
>Hohols from Ukraine crashed airplane in Ukraine
>Its Russia fault!!!!!!!
>>57472371
>none
Military cooperation is literally mentioned in the agreement, you utter retard
>>57472027
It's not.
>>57472048
The fact that, if the Treaty does not happen in case of a majority of NO votes, then the EU has proven not to care about Ukraine.
Thus, if Putin decides to invade, the EU had no reason to interfere considering there is no military alliance.
If the Treatu does happen, there is a military agreement that the EU has to fight for Ukraine. You can guess that nobody wants to fight for a underdeveloped country nobody cares about, had any knowledge about, nor die there just for Eurocratic bullshit.
>>57471973
Iron curtain. It's made us rich,and poor at the same time. My city builded locomotives for the whole East Europe and Soviet Union. From the East Germany to Vladivostok.
Poor management + market competition - and we on the roadside
I hope it's a NO vote
Fuck the EU
