Was he French or German?
He was Dutch.
He was a Moor from West Iberia.
>>57413061
He was your mum lmao
Is this really even a question in europe?
He was french, as proof by joan of arc using his grandfathers sword. She was french, his grandfather was french, and therefore he is french.
'germans' arent even a real thing
>>57413181
>germans' arent even a real thing
Germans are more of a thing than the """""""French"""""""
>>57413181
>He was french
Why did he speak Frankish as his first language, then?
Charlemagne born in Liege (fuck off Aachen fags)
Charles V born in Ghent
WE
WUZ
KANGZ
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SHIT
>>57413061
He was a Germanic Frenchman /thread
>>57413367
>"""""WE"""""
Now I can finally do t
>>>/his/
France Germany and Benelux should be 1 country who btfo all the rest of europe.
>>57413793
That would be too awesome. USA would never allow it though desu.
Why would you argue about the 'nationality' of this genocidal freak?
And of course he was German, Jesus Christ. France wasn't even a thing for the next 300 years.
>>57413061
Born on modern Belgian soil, same as Clovis and Charles V, so he's Belgian by default. Belgians speak Flemish, Charlemagne spoke an older version of Flemish, thus he's even more Belgian.
>>57413061
He was Dutch.
>>57413940
>Belgians speak Flemish
>Implying Walloons even bother to learn Dutch
;_;
>>57413977
I'm not him, but we do bother to learn Dutch at school. There are a lot of Dutch speaking schools in Wallonia as well.
>>57413181
>He was french, as proof by joan of arc using his grandfathers sword
wut?
Also to answer your question, he was neither and he was certainly not belgian since "belgian" is a made up identity forged during the 19th century.
>>57413923
more retardation here
>>57413061
French, Germans and Italians are absolutely the same people.
>>57413061
>>57413181
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks
both
He was Latvian
>>57413367
No one knows where he was born and I never heard the claim it was Aachen.
>>57413061
Everybody knows that Karel Veliký was actually Czech.
Dutch
>>57414183
Germanics /=/ Germans
You call yourselves Deutsches, not Germanics.
He was Canadian. Without a doubt.
>>57413793
This. Its time to remember the ppl of europe that French and Germany and all the shit inbetween is ine country!
Frankish
He was Roman.
modern day Flemish
Karl der Große sounds way cooler than Charlemagne, so I vote for German.
>>57419296
t. "South" ""Brazilian"" """"""""""""""German"""""""""
>>57413061
None
>>57419417
Never heard of Karl der Große until I read a book about him.
But the correct answer is Frankish, which was a proto-culture to both baguettes and bratwursts.
>>57415474
Do you think germans calledt hemsleves germans you dingus?
Also its "Deutsche" if you want to be an ass.
Iranianians don't claim Alexander and Macedonian occupiers as their own. Same with the Chinese and their Mongol rulers.
Pretending to be the invaders that conquered your country is a uniquely French custom.
>>57419485
Well, they ruled the romano-gauls like the Visgoths ruled the spaniards.
Language and culture wise i'd say Franks are germanic, but the Franks latinised themselves more and more and got in line with their people.
Frenchies can't look at this from a removed position as it fucks up their founding myth.
>>57419562
>>57419549
Frank-Mind.
It was all the same germanic shit back then tbqh
>>57413367
Aachen was his city, it was the Kaiserstadt and it wil always be
Suck my dick French faggots, Karl der Große not Charlemagne
t. Aachener
He was pathetic.
He was neither, but apparently Germ*ns really need it nowadays
>>57419832
>Germ*ns really need it nowadays
Have you been to your capital lately? try to go thorugh the streets without seeing a nigger. You wont make it for 5 meters.
>>57419832
In theory you need it more.
After all we don't get bombed that hard by people raised in our culture.
>Francophone arabs are the worst kind.
>>57419832
>"Frank" buttmad at the overwhelming evidence of Karl der Große's Germanness
it literally cannot be fabricated
>>57419889
Kek like clockwork
Alright talk about niggers if you wish, your only argument being "h-hey we're bad but you're bad too" it doesn't have much weight
Anyway I was just referring to this thread where you are the only ones debating so hard to claim a 1300 y.o emperor, but get triggered if you wish that's ok
>>57419889
>>57419913
>>57419950
I think we need to discuss your annexation by the Butthurt Belt, clearly you'd be a great addition
>hurr arab nigger arabs faggot
I didn't even say he was French, you REALLY need him do you
He made Italy great again, that's all that matters.
>>57419549
Spaniards also do this
>>57420215
Brits too
>>57413880
>>57419140
We tried. It was called the First French Empire. But anglo and prussia ruined everything as usual.
>>57420245
True
>>57419549
Which country ? Because there wasn't any France before the Franks
>>57419549
>USA "education"
Our country didn't even exist by the time of Charlemagne. French Kingdom origine was the Verdun Treaty of 843 which split the Charlemagne empire.
>>57420639
worst day of my life
>>57413061
Karlo Veliki? First Croatian king?
>>57420765
I know right
I was beating up some Moors when suddenly my buddy Dagobert enters my room
"The Frank Empire is kill"
"No"
>>57420858
Kek.
Those idiots.
>Thread obviously made to make Germans and French go at each other
And it totally worked
>>57420639
>French Kingdom origine was the Verdun Treaty of 843
If we go back in time to central France in 843 and ask a local peasant "What are you?" is he going to say "I'm French"? No, because he's a Mediterranean sandnigger.
Treaties magically create people and language and culture. French are so fucking stupid.
The principal residence of Karl the Great was Aachen, which was the coronation city for Roman-German kings till the 16th century. He also died in Aachen and is buried there. He's German.
But he was not even the greatest king of all time to be honest.
>>57419562
>it fucks up their founding myth.
Not by a single comma, Franz do you get that? Proto-France has been unified before Charlemagnoule by Clovis. Which is THE founding myth of France.
Karlomanito is just known as the first sacred King after his father with the very germanic name of Pepin le Bref.
>>57421737
What's wrong with that? Our nation is literally based on hating the French. It's in our blood.
>>57419685
>implying Aachen isnt rightfull French clay
it's Karol Wielki he was Polish actually
>>57424138
like toilets, forks, or even poland ?
>>57424136
Nobody in Aachen speaks french, if anything Aachen has closer ties to the dutch than frenchies historically
>>57424293
exactly
>>57424293
>>57424493
>In many aspects, Polish culture had a positive influence on France. At Wawel, the French were introduced to new technologies of septic facilities, in which litter (excrement) was taken outside the castle walls.[19] On returning to France, Henry ordered the construction of such facilities at the Louvre and other palaces.[19] Other inventions introduced to the French by the Polish included a bath with regulated hot and cold water, as well as forks. Henri III (1551–1589) [...] he is widely credited for having introduced the fork into France.[20]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_III_of_France
>>57424428
fuck you're dumb and I would not even respond to you if I wasnt hopelessely running simulations and got spare time from it.
Charlemagne was both French, German and Ducth. Yes, both. Germans today are no more Frankish than the French, thus claiming him is beyond retarded for either of us. If he could be claimed by anyone, it would be the dutch tbqh.
>>57424540
did not read, lol
>>57424030
>Clovis
>French
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Clovis was Dutch/Frankish/Franconian/Germanic.
He was Turkish diaspora
>Franks
>French
>>57424610
>did not read, lol
Toilets, forks and good hygiene came from Poland to France.
>>57424833
eventhough the pic I had uploaded is a French@TM toilet from the 11th century? You can still visit it in Paris.
Also, we used forks only to the Queen, which was from Brittany. Maybe she got that from the poles, but we didnt.
And I dont know what hygiene you're talking about, as to this day, I still dont shower.
thank us for your country instead, chimp.
Charlemagne was a Frank.
Franks adopted the language of French peasants and converted to their religion for the following reasons:
1. Easier for Frankish lords to give orders to French peasants, there were 1 Frank for 50 French cucks
2. Make it easier for French peasants to accept Frankish rule, this worked so well that French still think Franks were French 1000 years later
>>57424769
>France
>Frankreich
