best girl edition
last: >>57317515
Ciao
>>57329880
The things I would do to that North African ass
>>57329880
>This fucking whore again
Seriously Vardarshko, don't you have anything else to post? Like pic related.
post more Cara pls
Just applied for a janny. You better watch out corfu, I'm coming for you.
>>57329939
not only some but most. some adopted Orthodox Christianity (especially those who immigrated, intermarried etc.) but most remained part of the Armenian Church and continued to live in the Armenian highlands who were frequently outside the empire. the usual Armenian-Byzantine insults were "diphysite"/"monophysite"
just read Kaldellis on these matters
>>57330114
I'm clearly getting janny, not you
>>57329939
ok then give me advice. I don't want my cousin to make the biggest fuck up of his life.
Don't ever ban me if you become Janny cucks.
>>57329750
>we'll be seeing the end of this charade in a few generations
That's quite optimistic, desu. In our feel good pseudo-democracies, your average citizen won't give a shit that their mentality and way of life is leading to demographic collapse. We'll just end up importing more and more immigrants to fill in the gap.
>>57329824
Yeah, but your compatriot is a retard.
>>57329836
Modern Greeks are to Byzantine Greeks just like Italians and Romanians are to Romans, you faggot. Eastern Romance speakers are the descendants of the Eastern Romans that maintained their Latin heritage in spite of the hellenization of the state.
Why does everyone on /balk/ call me toni or blerim? Thats not even my name
>>57330302
are you from kosovo?
>>57330148
>Being Roman citizens ever since the foundation of the Roman Empire
>not Romans
>Only Orthodox Christians could be Roman citizens
Dude, are you serious right now? Because they hurled insults at eachother, that doesn't make them not-Roman
>>57330217
"On 8 October 1912, during the First Balkan War, Lemnos became part of Greece. The Greek navy under Rear Admiral Pavlos Kountouriotis took it over without any casualties from the occupying Turkish Ottoman garrison, who were returned to Anatolia. Peter Charanis, born on the island in 1908 and later a professor of Byzantine history at Rutgers University recounts when the island was occupied and Greek soldiers were sent to the villages and stationed themselves in the public squares. Some of the children ran to see what Greek soldiers looked like. ‘‘What are you looking at?’’ one of them asked. ‘‘At Hellenes,’’ the children replied. ‘‘Are you not Hellenes yourselves?’’ a soldier retorted. ‘‘No, we are Romans." Thus was the most ancient national identity in all of history, preserved in isolation, finally absorbed and ended."
BTFO shitlord diaspora
>>57330302
Because you're the Prime Minister of Kosovo, Toni Bler.
>>57330335
Dude in your pic must have some kind of... vitamin deficiency or something. He doesn't look right.
>>57330217
one of my compatriots (the one who said the Vlachs weren't considered to be Roman by the Byzantines) was actually me, the "Albo" guy was someone else.
>in spite of the hellenization of the state
well, after the Avaro-Slavic events, most Romance speakers were outside the state anyway until the Aromanians (or rather Aromanians-to-be) started migrating southwards.
I really recommend Kaldellis to everyone who wants to pursue the ethnic and imperial ideology of Byzantium, he's by far the best recent source
>That's quite optimistic, desu
it isn't, what I meant was that Europe is going to die off, not that this is going to positively change. lol
>>57330155
I thought you liked us
>>57330387
That's racist, Toni Bler is a beautiful human being.
>>57330330
.....yes
>>57330335
I was looking after that picture thanks. Also do you have the picture where everyone has their face on the picture?
>>57330421
its part of the joke m8
i actually like bulgaria
>>57330432
that explains it
someone post the screenshot of the tonibler wikipedia page
>>57329886
t.hanks
Im participating in a project in Germany and bulgarians are comming too. Maybe i can score with some cuties there
>>57330155
Why would they make a disgusting albanian shitposter such as yourself a janitor.
>>57330302
Toni Bler is a traditional gheg name
>>57330387
there are some nutrient deficiencies in the formerly communist Balkans, unfortunately. communism, not even once.
ask the Albanians, they know
Effendi wizard confirmation edition
>>57330335
>>57330550
This is the real picture faggots why would you draw an albanian flag on paint behind him?
>>57330541
Stop posting your disgusting OC
>>57330335
"On 8 October 2022, during the Third Balkan War, Ohrid became part of Bulgaria. The Bulgarian navy under Rear Admiral Boyko Borisov took it over without any casualties from the occupying Albanian garrison, who were returned to the Caucasus. Sashko, born in the city in 1988 and later a professor of Antiki history at Alexandros University recounts when the island was occupied and Bulgarian soldiers were sent to the villages and stationed themselves in the public squares. Some of the children ran to see what Bulgarian soldiers looked like. ‘‘What are you looking at?’’ one of them asked. ‘‘At Bulgarians,’’ the children replied. ‘‘Are you not Bulgarians yourselves?’’ a soldier retorted. ‘‘No, we are Macedonians." Thus was the most ancient national identity in all of history, preserved in isolation, finally absorbed and ended."
You're a retard, m8.
>>57330413
After Justinian, there was no Roman state proper anymore anyway, so it makes no difference in my view. Proto-Romanians were the descendants of the Latin speakers of the Eastern Empire, ergo Romans proper.
>>57330616
lel, I know it was a shoop. I was generally speaking
you have to admit that this ET guy has a very Albanian head shape though
>>57330616
That's right, we should put the appropriate flag.
Изгpeј зopa нa cвoбoдaтa , зopa нa вeчнaтa бopбa, изгpeј в дyшитe и cpцaтa нa вcички poби пo cвeтa.
>>57330710
>After Justinian, there was no Roman state proper anymore anyway
to be fair, Byzantium had statal continuity, the Vlachs just ended up outside the state. what you're saying is just as ideological as the Byzantine attitudes (but that's how it is, naturally we all are ideological fater all)
>>57330761
wew
>>57330710
>memeposting
>argument
Being a "Roman" was a title, a title given to birthright Roman Citizens, that title was reserved for Italics, Latins and Greeks in the Roman Republic, until in the Roman Empire, when Emperor Caracalla made the "Constitutio Antoniniana" where every free citizen of the Roman Empire was considered a Roman Citizen and in other words a Roman.
how do you play as byzantium in EUIV ?
sounds impossible lmao
>>57331021
ctrl + shift + esc
integrate TUR
>>57331021
why would you play as Byzantium, blobberina?
>>57331021
vanilla and block the bosphorus
>>57331021
ally hungary/polan/austria, galley spam
>>57331152
The fucking paracucks keep patching Byzantium to fall everytime someone finds a way to survive with them.
>>57331021
Start from CK2 and then convert your save
>>57331021
Ally Boland
Build a navy
Use mercenaries
I'd like to play a game against you guys but i wouldnt give away my steam to any of you gooks
maybe to the albanian in usa he is cool
>>57331265
but he's a Tosk
>>57331265
>Buying games
>>57331021
they make it harder and harder with every patch. pretty much you restart until you can get an alliance with 2 of austria poland and hungary and then you just hide your army somewhere and join the doomstack and hope for the best.
>>57331314
Why would that ever matter? Albanians see eachother as brothers. It doesnt matter what religion he believes or where he is from
>>57331265
>not trusting first world civilized beings
>trusting albanians
>mfw
>>57330876
Well, of course. I don't deny statal continuity, but culturally the ERE went from promoting Roman universalism to neo-Hellenism in Roman clothing.
>>57330964
>memeposting
Not any less memeworthy that some Greek peasant children claiming to be Roman being treated as a historical argument.
And your argument is shit since Roman identity =/= social status in the Roman state. By that logic, the Carolingian Empire and HRE were true heirs of the WRE.
>>57331359
I actually have money so I chose to buy them and help the developers instead of getting my computer full of pirated trojans
>>57331359
Seriously m8 CK2 and EU4 cost 40euros. Not to mention what happens with the DLCs and Packs. Who would unironically buy them???
>>57331447
I based my reasoning on what the Roman Empire considered Roman
And the Greeks were considered Romans
So fuck you and fuck off
>>57331488
You can play with pirated DLCs, m8.
>>57331444
>Balkans
>First world
>>57331447
>went from promoting Roman universalism
I'll agree with you there, Byzantium did resort less to that sort of ideology (see also Angel Nikolov for the Bulgarian attitudes towards Byzantine Romanism) but that was also a natural result of the actual political circumstances, losing the West etc.
>>57331518
It's still fucking high. If you're not going to play multi on it there's no reason not to pirate the game itself
>>57331541
Greeks are first world m8
and Romanians will become first world soon
>>57331488
I bought it 75% off
>>57331487
but they're Swedish, don't give them your money!!!!
>>57331487
>Helping parajews
You are the problem.
>tfw dealers in my country don't offer adderal
sucks being a third worlder
>>57331588
>Greeks are first world
denbts will take care of that
>>57331635
>>57331647
spotted the poor people :^)
>>57331566
Well, then we are on the same page. It's just a matter on how you define Roman continuity - politically or culturally.
>>57331515
And the Greeks were considered Ottoman citizens later on, so your point is?
>>57331660
fucking Bulgarians can't go a single day without their PEDs
>>57331700
>And the Greeks were considered Ottoman citizens later on, so your point is?
GREEKS=TURKS
>>57331696
>If you don't pay for shitty games and don't support disgusting business practices, you have no money!
Kill urself my man.
>>57331487
>pirated trojans
You are just a noob e-privateer m8, you don't know about the kool pirate sites
>>57331696
Haha, a little recession won't kill us
>>57331700
>And the Greeks were considered Ottoman citizens later on
endonyms aside, the Ottomans did call Romance speakers "Vlachs" and Greek speakers "Romans" btw for obvious reasons
>>57331700
They were considered as Rumlars, in other words, Romans.
>>57331696
do you wanna send 18 euros to my paypal account? I wanna buy Hyper Light Drifter
>>57331828
Why would you even play the game if you concider the game to be shitty? Kys
>>57331940
Are you going to call me poor for not giving some random greek on the internet money?
>>57331647
If i had cash to spend on games i would, im sick of viruses and jumping through hoops to get games running properly.
>>57331869
>>57331900
we are still called Rums by turks
and we got Romiosini/Romios as a part of the identity
ΠΑΡΘΕΝ Η ΡΩΜΑΝΙΑ ΣΥΝΤΡΟΦΟΙ
>>57332067
Some Turks and Muslims call us Yunans, and we're Yunanistan officially in Saracen Town.
>>57331869
Yeah, but both the endonym of Daco-Romanians and of Aromanians derives from 'roman'. Romanians maintained a cultural connection with Rome, while Greeks maintained a political one.
>>57331900
Just like Romans considered Greeks to be Greeks. You were Hellenic Romans to the Romans and Rumlar Ottomans to the Ottomans.
>>57329880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyWKlzLvFGw
>this
>best girl
/balk/ explain yourselves
>>57331940
Don't bother, it's shit. I played it and the gameplay is awful.
>>57331957
Because they monopolized the market and the only other alternative I have is Aurora, which is too autistic for me. Also pic related.
They're seriously really simplistic and shitty games after you play enough, except for Victoria 2 and HoI3, which have some depth but are still easy to exploit.
transgender retards = mental illness
who else agrees with me
>>57332266
I agree. I also think homosexuality is a mental defect
>>57332055
See, Vardarska gets it. I pay to get it easy and avaiable. I can download and install mods with one button
>>57332205
I pay to get the game easily accessible and to download mods easier.
>>57332266
everything is a mental illness
even this tripcode you fucking dumb cocksucking piece of crap
>>57332166
Just because the language shifted to Greek that doesn't mean all aspects of Roman culture disappeared from us, the Greek Orthodox Church is a direct continuation of the Roman Christian Churches that existed in the unified Roman Empire.
Plus, that's exactly right we were Hellenic Romans, that doesn't make it any different from being an actual Roman, and since Romans don't exist anymore, that means we are the closest thing to Romans now.
>>57332326
You are just a pleb that can't even use uTorrent
>>57332055
Is zamunda popular in makkeland?
>>57332134
One day i want to visit some special traditonal places in afghanistan or somewhere else where there was Greek presence thanks to alexander,tell them i am yunan and see their reactions
>>57332205
I sexually indentify as a Greek
>>57332326
Getting everything for free is easy as fuck. Hint: /gsg/ has an archive of mods and all games.
>>57332352
edgy
>>57332166
yeah, I know, that's why I referred to just exonyms. anyway, 'culturally' both Romanians and Greeks (and the rest of the Balkans really) come from very similar cultural backgrounds so it's hard to make the case that one is a cultural Roman while the other isn't. we were all influenced by Rome proper and Byzantium after all (plus the Slavs and the Ottomans but those didn't represent Romanity)
obviously linguistic ties with Latium are stronger in the case of Romance speakers (and even Albanians to an extent) but Latin speakers didn't really have a reason to assimilate Greek speakers anyway
>>57332205
shit
meant to send >>57332390 to >>57332266
>>57332352
woah man don't cut me with that edge
>>57332024
no, though I'm gonna call you an asshole if you don't. how am I random, I'm posting in the same thread as you. cmon, I want to play it
>>57332464
only if you don't cut me with that autism
DOCTOR PAVEL I'M CIA
HE WASN'T ALONE
YOU DON'T GET TO BRING FRIENDS
THEY'RE NOT MY FRIEEEEEEENDS
>>57331169
REMOVE KEBAB MAKE ΚΩΝΣΤΑΝΤΙΝΟΥΠΟΛΗ GREAT AGAIN
so you just go at war with them as soon as you got an alliance, spam galleys and blockade their ports ?
>>57332538
the Kurds are the only ones effectively removing kebab these days via the most peaceful way: higher birth rates
Dear beloved Balkan people, post some upbeat music that always cheer you t b h.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpqm-05R2Jk
>>57332647
you always post /mu/ crap. why don't you just fuck off, Turk?
>>57332358
>Romans don't exist anymore
We speak a Latin tongue and are Orthodox, so try again. ;)
>>57332421
Well, yeah, but I don't think it is proper to define this cultural group as Roman. Slavo-Byzantine (and Phanariote/Ottoman later on) is a more neutral term imho and is true for all nations, with some being closer to the Slavic part(Slavs proper and Daco-Romanians), while others to the Byzantine part(Greeks, Albanians, Aromanians).
>>57332737
You speak a Romance language, not latin.
You're are trying to claim you are culturally Romans, yet that's barely a claim since culturally Romans have changed a lot.
WE
>>57332737
get the morons of the Balkans to agree with you and find some common ground sometime and we can work on the labels lol.
>>57332383
Western museums are a safer bet.
>>57332734
I don't even post on /mu/ cuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkx9T8gs-c
Another feel-good song.
>>57332815
And you speak modern Greek, you sperg. Modern Eastern Romance derives from the Vulgar Latin of the ERE.
>culturally Romans have changed a lot
That goes both ways, my seajew friend.
Is he Turk Bulgars? Based chalga t b h. How does it make you feel Turks rule Bulgar music industry?
>Amet
>Fiki
>Milko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC6yHMcSWCc
Why is /balk/ so shit during the weekends?
>>57332737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-kql7cpcOo
Great scene, great series.
>>57332890
OПAA КOMШИ
>>57333014
Glad to know someone caught that reference.
>>57332647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NwzxGntDgs i wish i was ironical
youtube won't function, so check these
Danger - 22h30
Blue Öyster Cult - astronomy
Dance With The Dead - waves
>>57332983
Did what?
>>57333069
>Blue Öyster Cult - astronomy
Isn't this song about a girl that marries another guy not the singer? How is it upbeat? It is a sad thing.
>>57333078
>>57333001
>implying its good at any other time
>>57332383
You'll be massively respected by the following peoples: Sanskrit speakers, Sikhs, Eastern Buddhists, Kalash people, Nuristanis and some more.
>>57332932
But our claim to the Ancient Greeks is a racial and a cultural claim that stands, your claim is a linguistic and barely cultural claim, since not many actual Romans stayed in Dacia.
>>57333125
:^)
>>57333130
This was months ago. Some scammers got them for having phone numbers to spam them with texts like " You won lottery " or something.
Once Bulgar Turks kept calling our numbers. I know a guy who was scammed by a woman saying that she will marry him. He sent 1k + Euros for her. She never came here lamooooo.
>>57333125
the singer is a Turk in that story though so it's positive for the woman
>>57333278
Mate please. I'm really in a low mood. Your shitty banter doesn't help me cheer up a little. If it was a nice or sublime banter like Frenchie did, I would like but you are full edgy today.
>>57333263
Wait what, they even got erdogan
>>57333250
everyone in the Balkans is basically the result of the same cultural and ethnic mix in slightly different quantities.
but then you have Romanians who think they look more like Swedes than Greeks and Greeks who think they're closer to Iberians than Romanians
>>57333333
congratulate him, /balk/
>>57333327
d-do you want to play salem or something ?
>>57333327
but I don't want to cheer you up, I want you to feel bad and hurt a lot. it builds character
>>57333014
so,what did they do to the jew?
>>57333424
don't bully
i-if dubs, effendi is going to have a good week ? ;_;
>>57333475
iirc, they were going to cut off his dick/balls and the jew got scared and gave in to their demands
>>57333424
fuck off ,it doesn't build character
Bullying can kill someone
>>57333567
but he's a Turk, what kind of Greek are you
>>57333544
>i-if dubs, effendi is going to have a good week ? ;_;
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee last time you did I got a killer diarrhea.
>>57333424
But I do unironically feel so bad today. It hurts.
>>57333401
>SALEM
No. I want to watch some tv shows to cheer me up.
>>57329880
ENCA !
>>57333567
>Bullying can kill someone
no it cant
weak faggots who cant handle the bullying kill themselves
>>57333567
Not that far mate. I can handle banter. I just feel cringey seeing his weak ass banter in a shitty day. It is not his fault but he gotta improve his banter. He is Gayreek, not a Hellenic friend.
>>57333250
You do realize that you aren't pure ancient Hellenes, right? Both modern Greeks and modern Romanians are descendants of paleo-Balkan populations mixed with the different migrators and invaders. Not to mention that Roman heritage is not ethnic, since Roman expansion and the subsequent Romanization was made by colonists from all corners of the Empire, not from the Italic peninsula.
Also, keep in mind that Daco-Romanians(or Romanians propers) are the Slavicized north-eastern branch that descended from the proto-Romanians, proto-Romanians being the romanized, preponderently Thraco-Illyrian populations of the ERE.
>>57333694
I'm the anti-Turk bully and I think you're being really mean and wrong
GREETINGS AND SALUTATIONS MY BROWN FRIENDS
>>57333775
May I interject for a minute? I'm an Albanian Gheg tourist in Greece and we're the most ancient and pure race of the Balkans.
>>57333775
>descendants of paleo-Balkan populations mixed with the different migrators and invaders
youre describing the ancient greeks lad
>>57333781
>mean
i think people who cant handle bullying deserve being bullied
>>57333874
I'm describing all modern Balkan nations.
Watching Seinfeld t b h for cheering up and I match characters with posters.
Rate.
>Jerry
Greeks. Normie one. Blandest one.
>Kramer
Bulgars. Best banter and fun material.
>Elaine
Fyromians.
>Costanza
Me. Perfect choice t b h.
>>57333946
he's right too though, the ancient populations themselves were Neolithic paleo-Balkanites mixed with groups coming from West Asia and from the steppes. basically what keeps happening
>>57333775
While they are not pure, the majority of the Greeks are mostly connected to the Ancient Greeks of olde.
Also paleo-Balkan populations didn't mix with proto-Greeks that lived in Greece.
>Roman heritage is not ethnic
I know, that's why I'm telling you we're Romans.
>>57333990
So, you're a fat, balding autist?
>>57333694
In real life i was bullied verbally in highschool every day and while it is true it can make you a stronger person,devote yourself in something and excel,it also gives scars and a lot of stress
And intense stress felt every day,it might give so many health and other problems for your adult life that up to a point it becomes better to suicide than keep living.
>>57334091
Again, you hellenized the ERE, replacing Roman culture with Hellenic culture. You are to the Romans what Bulgarians are to the Bulgars. Your heritage is only political.
who /pee in pants/ masterrace here?
>>57333990
you're far too unfunny to be Costanza. your faux quirkiness is crap. he was by far the funniest character
>>57334155
>In real life i was bullied verbally in highschool
I bet Shqips did this to you :(
>>57334126
Yes
The Greeks are the handsomest
The Bulgarians are the funny Jews
The Memecedonians are the useless women
>>57334216
Only the language changed because it was more convenient, the ERE's culture was the same from the time of Constantine to the fall in 1453, so by definition, the culture was Roman.
>>57334155
>boo hoo I can't handle the shqip and georgian bantz
Grow a pair Greekfendi
>>57334091
>tfw ancient hellene and roman
>>57334155
the way it devolves from being lets call it bantered to being bullied is not being able to defend yourself verbally and physically
once you establish that you wont allow to be bullied people will stop bullying you
you were bullied because you took it like a bitch
no bully though
>>57334291
the 'culture' wasn't exactly the same, there can not be complete stasis for a thousand years even for a relatively conservative state like Byzantium. it was the fact that the state and its ethnic base was Roman that made the culture Roman, not the other way around.
>>57334355
t. turk memeposter
>>57334379
But the major things about Roman culture during the time of Constantine and eventually Thedosius, remained the same.
>>57334355
>you were bullied because you took it like a bitch
True.
I didn't stop it.And now i pay the price
>>57334282
most of the Albos in my high school were women and they ended up with Greek bfs
I don't understand why you guys act like there was only one continuation of the Romans. Rome proper for example continued electing consuls well into the 6th century.
It's not as clear and cut as you all make it seem.
>>57334470
Yea right, that's what they all say, lmao.
>>57334282
No,we had one albanian student and he was bro tier.
I was bullied by Greeks
>>57334467
same 2bh
i regret so much shit, even though now i've changed.
it was awful, so much thing could be different if i had fought bullies like a man
>>57334578
atleast you got bullied by modern, not ancient greeks
>>57334578
>I was bullied by Greeks
Why didn't you go HAM on these bitches? Haha.
>>57334528
I don't, I'm saying all the people considered Romans by the Romans and eventually the Eastern Romans, are actually Roman descendants.
>>57334528
a fucking leaf
>>57334545
do you really think that's not what happens when a minority group finds itself in another country?
>>57334291
It was not, the Roman ideal was replaced by Hellenism. The only reason they kept calling themselves Roman was for the prestige and political power it conferred(such as having a claim on the western half of the Roman Empire).
>>57334946
Yeah. Maybe it's easier to go HAM when you're a minority. Lol.
>>57334964
>It was not, the Roman ideal was replaced by Hellenism.
It was replaced by Greek-Language Eastern Christianity, earlier Roman culture and Hellenism were different. And let's not even get into the Holy Roman Empire of the Germans.
>>57334964
>such as having a claim on the western half of the Roman Empire
good point continuing on what you said earlier. when they gave up on the west for good, they toned down the claims a bit. there was a Greek historian who wrote a pretty good (but somewhat speculative, still one of those interesting reads) book on this change but I can't remember his name right now...
>>57334964
>replaced by hellenism
No, that's incorrect, and no number of Romanian propaganda is going to change that.
Take this argument to /his/ this thread is not the place for that.
Also
>Implying Roman culture wasn't a copy of Greek culture, making the Romans, Greeks-lite
That's why they say Greco-Roman culture, because they were very similar.
>>57335146
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
>>57335146
>It was replaced by Greek-Language Eastern Christianity
sure but that was actually part of the Roman package as the Byzantines understood it. Greek language, Roman political institutions, Byzantine (Constantinopolitan) Christianity.
for example, Leo VI in his Tactica praised Basil I for his policies towards the Slavs in the south by mentioning that he linguistically hellenized them, baptized them and made them into Roman citizens
>>57335279
t.voltarov
>>57335181
>Roman culture was a copy of Greek culture
Greek revisionism at it's finest. You're too much of a peasant to bother with, senpai.
>>57335146
Cans of worms, m8. Cans of worms.
>>57335157
If you remember, do tell. You seem to be well researched on the subject.
sup kunts
>>57335279
It was Holy, Roman and an Empire tho...
>>57335489
vocaroo your accent please
>>57335451
>Greek revisionism at it's finest. You're too much of a peasant to bother with, senpai.
youre wrong senpai
Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit et artes / intulit agresti Latio
>>57335181
They were also had a very different mindsets. It's like comparing Europe and America. Similar and compatible in many ways but also different. You should reading the historical books from the late republican era and you'll see this.
>>57335279
>>57335548
not yet
>>57335384
Plus, Greek was the language of the patricians, Latin was for Italic plebs.
>>57335451
"Starting in the middle of the 2nd century BC, private Greek culture was increasingly in ascendancy, in spite of tirades against the "softening" effects of Hellenized culture from the conservative moralists. By the time of Augustus, cultured Greek household slaves taught the Roman young (sometimes even the girls); chefs, decorators, secretaries, doctors, and hairdressers all came from the Greek East. Greek sculptures adorned Hellenistic landscape gardening on the Palatine or in the villas, or were imitated in Roman sculpture yards by Greek slaves. The Roman cuisine preserved in the cookery books ascribed to Apicius is essentially Greek. Roman writers disdained Latin for a cultured Greek style. Only in law and governance was the Italic nature of Rome's accretive culture supreme."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_ancient_Rome
>>57335577
It was because started with a huge inferiority complex and rapidly shifted to a huge superiority complex, whereas the Greeks were always somber and calm about things.
>>57335518
>"""""""""""""""Holy"""""""""""""""""
>"""""""""""""""Roman""""""""""""""""
>"""""""""""""""Empire""""""""""""""""
Someone saw the mace flag on csgo navi vs lg?
>>57335609
is that you Nigel? why the name?
Is there a greek general will or something to have again Constantinople? or is it just a meme?
>>57335518
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Holy""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Roman""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Empire"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
every time this same fucking meme with the scare quotes about the HRE. god I wish I could drown you
>>57335727
>Is there a greek general will or something to have again Constantinople?
there is a deep desire for constantinople in everyone similar to the lust for moreta in voulgarians
reality is in the way however
there was a meme going around in the late 19th and early 20th century called megali idea which was about uniting all the greek people under one flage by conquering the territories from turkey
>>57335953
The pepe in the picture is completely unrelated to the whole ordeal
>>57335727
>>57335727
it's a meme in [current year] and even the Sevres treaty had nothing to do with a Greek Constantinople anyway.
the Turks also managed to destroy the Greek community in Istanbul via pogroms and the varlık vergisi. there are more Turks in Western Thrace than Greeks in Turkey
Είναι kανείς άλλος χαρούμενος που αυτό είναι τοπ kόμμεντ σε βίντεο για πρόσφυγες, φάμπαϊζ? Γαμώ τη δύση για να είμαι ειλιkρινής
>>57336033
LONG
LIVE
CONSTANTINOPOLIS
ΜΕ ΑΙΜΑ ΚΑΙ ΔΟΥΛΕΙΑ, ΣΤΗΝ ΠΟΛΗ ΕΜΕΙΣ ΞΑΝΑ!
Overcooked peanuts is the shit
>>57335609
>yet
WHY
>>57336073
Pomaks aren't Turks, they're muslim Bulgarians who think they are Turks.
>>57335727
I mean Constantinople wasn't really ever greek, it was "greek", because byzantines lived there (who spoke greek)
>>57336025
>The pepe in the picture is completely unrelated to the whole ordeal
thats pepizelos who tried to make greek great again you ignorant gayreek
>>57336161
the Muslim minority is around half Turkish speaking and as you said, some of the Pomaks identify as Turks too
>>57336158
>cooked nuts
disgusting
>>57336161
>x aren't Turks, they are y who think they are Turks
i do enjoy this meme
Greeks are turks with wrong religion
>>57336218
>pepizelos
Κεk
>>57336198
"Byzantines" continued to be a substantial part of the city until the 50s...we shouldn't mix nationalism and history but this is too much even for me
saw a fully fledged jew today on the tube with the kipah and the curls the whole shebang, obviously its not the first time but as i sat in his proximity couldnt stop thinking jewjewjewjewjew and hopping that his godlike money management aura would rub into me as i had realized that i was down at least £160 from the pub session the night before. sigh sad times
>>57336198
It started off as Byzantion you retard, and it was a Greek colony, and the Byzantines were mostly Greeks.
>>57336218
You mean Beny Zelon? The Jew who tried to make Thessaloniki into Jerusalem 2.0?
>>57336259
Get fucked (by Kurds preferrably)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomaks
>>57336218
>pepizelos
>pepescu
>pepovic
>pepovski
>pepov
I like the sound of it
>>57336259
>it was the Kurds!
I enjoy this meme more.
>>57336098
It's dead anon... just let it go.
>>57336370
no fuq u m80
>>57336338
And Plovdiv started out as Phillipoupolis therefore it is greek right? Lmaoing @ your logic, kid
>>57336370
It will never be dead
>>57336085
memes aside i'm proud to be greek t b h
the left can go fuck itself for making people think if you insult a certain group of people (blondes, left-handed people, etc.) is racism
MAKING FUN OF A GOUP OF THINGS ISN'T RACISM YOU RETARDS
>>57336265
Macedonians are Greeks with wrong language *rubs hands*
>>57336259
the ones in west thrace are usually blond , don't confuse me with kebab leftovers.
>>57336370
No more Constantinopolis, no more Tsarigrad, no more Miklagard only Istanbul now. :(
>>57336503
Add us to the pic
>>57336338
>You mean Beny Zelon? The Jew who tried to make Thessaloniki into Jerusalem 2.0?
anonaki,I...
>>57336370
NEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER
>>57336494
implying there is anything wrong with racism
>>57336505
>are usually blond
what is this Pomak blond meme...? have you guys been there?
>>57336431
It is Greek you fucking retard, just because Bulgarians are occupying it, that doesn't make it any less Greek and not rightfully our clay.
>>57336578
Damn this general is autism boys, time to leave
>>57336503
OY I'LL BESH YE FOKIN EAD IN M8
>>57336578
FIGHT BULGARIA NOW. I WANT VARNA
>>57335636
That's a gross exaggeration. Hellenic influence matured the Roman culture, but it did not replace it. On the other hand, after Justinian, Hellenism indeed replaced Roman culture:
"From an evolutionary standpoint, Byzantium was a multi-ethnic empire that emerged as a Christian empire, soon comprised the Hellenised empire of the East, and ended its thousand-year history, in 1453, as a Greek Orthodox state: an empire that became a nation, almost by the modern meaning of the word.
[...] During the later period of the Byzantine Empire, Emperor Theodore I Laskaris tried to revive Hellenic tradition by fostering the study of philosophy, [...] the Byzantine emperor John Vatatzes claimed to have received the gift of royalty from Constantine the Great, and put emphasis on his "Hellenic" descent, exalting the wisdom of the Greek people. He was presenting Hellenic culture as an integral part of the Byzantine polity in defiance of Latin claims.
Byzantine Greeks had always felt superior for being the inheritors of a more ancient civilisation, [...] in the context of increasing Venetian and Genoese power in the eastern Mediterranean, association with Hellenism took deeper root among the Byzantine elite, on account of a desire to distinguish themselves from the Latin West and to lay legitimate claims to Greek-speaking lands.
Claims of association with Hellenism continued and increased throughout the Palaiologan dynasty. The scholar, teacher, and translator, John Argyropoulos, addressed Emperor John VIII Palaiologos as "Sun King of Hellas" and urged the last Byzantine emperor, Constantine XI Palaiologos, to proclaim himself "King of the Hellenes". During the same period, the neo-platonic philosopher George Gemistos Plethon boasted "We are Hellenes by race and culture," and proposed a reborn Byzantine Empire following a utopian Hellenic system of government centered in Mystras."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Greeks#Revival_of_Hellenism
>>57336085
>se ligo
molis girisa apo kafe, giftoi, prezakia, kai fisika mousoulmanoi me madiles arxisan na skane miti.
o skatodermos, i gineka tou me madila egios na kratai idi ena kebab.
kaka ta psemata mono xrisi avgi stis ekloges tou kalokeriou an kai tous sixenome edo tithete thema asfalias
>>57336692
sup 40 yo NEET
I've just seen a documentary about Tesla. Why exactly is there a dispute about whether he is serbian or croatian when both of his parents were serbs, his father even being an orthodox priest?
>>57336561
A Jew gets elected in Greece at around the same time as a Jew becoming a leader in Turkey
NOT A CONSPIRACY
NOT PLANNED AT ALL
>>57336662
What you're not taking account of is that the Roman East was mostly Hellenic anyways.
>>57336561
racism is justified 90% of the time
the other 10% is just retards trying to be edgy
>>57336623
>>57336630
ILLYRIAN CLAY
Seinfeld is the best comedy ever t b h. 2 episodes and I'm laughing madly
>>57336569
sti ksanth vre koutsovlaxe, ine oi pomakoi to idio xroma me tous tourkous pou exoun ksemini? mi trelathoume
>>57336472
oh its dead
istanbul is alive but its being fucked by more than a million literal kurds
>>57336731
There is no dispute , it is just fredi shitposting.
>>57336786
At least it's being fucked by whites
>>57336731
Maybe because his birth took place in the lands of present day Croatia?
>>57336692
hello,mr kasidiarhs
how come you post on /int/?
>>57336777
/subscribe
>>57336662
weak attempts, they had to resort to translating Arabic texts to gain the latest knowledge in philosophy and mathematics. if Orthodoxy is to blame for something grave, it's the awful attitude towards the pagans it kept forever.
the Balkans, unlike Russia which modernized relatively early on, were pretty stupid about that in general
>>57336578
Cologne is rightfully Romanian and Italian clay, as it has been founded by the Romans.
>>57336662
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_East_and_Latin_West
>>57336876
>Italians
>Romans
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>57336781
they aren't 'blond' either. I really don't get some of these anthropological memes that emerge. and their identity is still being controlled by the more numerous Turks
>>57336731
nikolaos teslakis is greek
>>57336957
exis pai pote ksanthi,alexandroupoli ,komotini?
>>57336921
Ah it's the albo with capital letters shitposting. Gtfo quick
>>57336085
I never understood this sort of raging. what did you think you achieved? just self catharsis, radicalizing others, what?
>>57336958
From what I searched in his family tree, his father actually had some roots in Greece, wether his roots were slavs that lived in Greece or actual Greeks, I really don't know, but some distant roots still existed, but there is no doubt that he was Serbian.
>>57337036
Not that guy, but no
I'm not leaving :^)
>>57337040
t. cuck
>>57337227
spewing your unconstructive nonsense onto the youtube void doesn't seem like a stance against cuckery. seems very impotent to me
>>57337384
4chan memes aside greeks in comment sections express their opinions cringeworthingly af
>>57337384
>>57337227
mh malwnete, h strofh ston agno ethnikismo tha mas paei gia akoma mia fora milia brosta.
ZHTW TO ETHNOS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEa9D815HSo
>>57337504
thats yt comments in general desu
>>57337548
>lamb of god
I can't even hate on false metal anymore, i kinda find it listenable. the gods have abandonded me
>>57337690
H ellada pada megalourghse odas enwmenh.
there's no denying in that.
WHITE POWER!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx08MK_O_TQ
>>57336692
>i gineka tou me madila egios na kratai idi ena kebab.
TOP LEL
>>57337753
>WHITE POWER!
youre mind has been cucked by nortthern europeans
>>57337753
>can't even get your wives pregnant
>white power
lol
>>57337040
>you achieved
The post isn't mine senpai, I never comment in greek videos
>>57337753
>>57337548
BASED
A
S
E
D
ΕΛΛΑΣ, ΘΡΗΣΚΕΙΑ, ΓΑΜΩ ΤΗΝ ΑΛΒΑΝΙΑ
