Which do you like better
great glorious japanese ship or korean ship?
>>57308381
じゃぱねせ
>>57308381
Both look great tbqh
>>57308381
we don't wanna get tangled with japan. delet this
>>57308381
Nipponese.
Why does the Japanese ship have a house on it?
How can Koreans see where they're going when the top of the ship is covered in some spike roof thing?
Korea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Myeongnyang
>12 fucking ships beat 130+ ships
Why compare fancy nobleman's yacht to combat vessel?
They serve entirely different purpose, of course the Japanese one is fancy and the Korean one is ugly.
This SMALL motherfucker is sinking mad ASIAN navies and basically you're fucking uncivilized
Learn how
>>57308445
impale anyone who fall on ship
ingenious korean design 일본어 개 훔쳐
>>57308443
Forgot my pic.
>>57308381
The Korean one is pretty cool, like a floating Bowser
The Japanese one is alright, but why did they make a house for smurfs on top. No sail and with toothpicks as paddles, how do they get anywhere?
>>57308381
Marginally seaworthy buckets, lines look like you took a carpenter and told him to make a house that floats.
>>57308381
i dont get it and dont even understand whats the point of this shitty unknown boats
>>57308474
haha
>>57308474
That ship looked really cramped.
>>57308531
Bro your people lived on horses all their lives and have no ship building experience. You had to get the Chinese to build ships for you.
>>57308446
it's a meme battle
arrrre look same really
>>57308597
it's supposed to incite a flame war between Japanese and Korean posters for the sake of some funny insults being thrown around.
nothing comparing japan and korea will ever be serious or in good faith on this imageboard.
>>57308645
I admit, I raughed a rittre.
>>57308381
>1st ship has only one sail apparently
>2nd ship you can't see jackshit but at least it has cannons
as much as I prefer japan over korea, I will have to pick korea.
>>57308381
Korean ship is more cute.
>>57308381
Why the fuck did Sengoku Nips bother to build ships with impractical and elaborately designed superstructures on their warships? THEY EVEN HAVE TILES AND DOURUFIN ORNAMENTS ON TH FUCKING ROOFS
Korea invented metal hulled ships.
>>57308858
Hi Korean
>>57308381
Fuck your ship. Korean girls are cuter.
>>57308381
Great glorious Korean ship.
why nips built ship on which fucking buildings stand? nips are, were really brainless fuckers
>>57308381
>Yi Sun-Shin
>Not a career admiral
>Pwns veteran and possibly the best Japanese admiral during the Sengoku Wars, Kuki Yoshitaka, with inferior numbers.
Humblepie.jpg
What's the purpose of those spikes??? To impaled their enemies?? That's... That's fucking metal.
>>57308381
I hate Korea that's it
Poor Korean kek
>>57308946
Japanese liked to fight in close quarters, so the Koreans went: "nah, YOU WANT CQC? TOO BAD, HERE SPIKE, FUCK YOU"
why are they human powered?
why do asian ships have ridiculously small sail areas?
>>57308381
Dear nip
post moar lewd boats thx.
Don't disappoint i know you got folders full of them.
>>57308860
you don't need sissy ships when you are the most formidable land warriors on the planet - samurai.
>>57308865
It was the Chinese
>>57308982
>how can western ships even compete
>>57309010
Yeah and Kato Kiyomasa nearly starved to death because the navy couldn't do fuck all against kekekeke turtleship rush
Based Lee
>>57309077
it's not because of meme ships but because shitty infrastructures of korea that didn't even have proper roads.
>>57309094
>and I'm only doing this admiral gig part time niggah, I've got horse riding Jurchen delinquents to deal with back home that's my real job. t. Yi Sun-shin
>>57308381
>get one guy to board the Korean ship with a torch (don't jump like a drunk and coordinate your action)
>light up the sails, mast, and ceiling of the ship
>Massive Japanese cannon to their rear
>???
>>57308743
thanks m8.
i wont join this shitty argument anyway
>>57309177
Kiyomasa went all the way to Manchuria relying on shitty roads. The man is just like Hannibal, his incompetent colleagues fucked up all that he has managed to achieve.
>>57308865
Pretty stupid without an engine
>>57309076
The 'treasure fleet' ships weren't capable of crossing oceans in the slightest, they traveled by the coast. The ship in the picture if something like it existed was an immobile river ship, like a casino ship in America. (To this day China continues this tradition by their only aircraft carrier being a ship sold as a casino ship!)
>>57309076
>>57308982
Fake, the ship was never that large. A wooden structure couldn't withstand waves at that time.We have no idea how large the ships were as the Chinese over-exagerate everything in their history, numbers, sizes, everything.
It also ignores the fact that one ship was for a trans-atlantic voyage, the other one skimmed coastlines and was a treasure ship.
The picture here is actually from some muslim museum that was pandering to the chinese ego.
>>57309076
They could compete, they annihilated them.
>>57309290
Let's put it this way: the Koreans outsmarted a people who in turn outsmarted the Spanish from turning their country Catholic and robbing all their silver.
>>57309076
The Chinese were acting rationally until the Qing came along.
The moral of the story is, your shitty native regime might be slightly if not infinitely better than whatever random yellow Dothraki filth who sport shitty hairstyles have to offer.
>>57308528
>Bowser
VS
>toothpicks
>>57309375
Your comeback will be, "Well, the Spanish took over half of the world and left a great legacy, their language, culture, religion..."
Yeah because Argentina happens to be a marvelous spectacle of human civilization isn't it.
you should die
>>57308381
here the best one
>>57309514
>tfw Americans actually did us a great favor by forcing our country open while the Euros just laughed at how pathetic and useless we are.
>>57309455
My comeback is "what the fuck are you talking about?" iron hulled ships without engines are a terrible fucking idea.
>>57309642
> iron hulled ships without engines are a terrible fucking idea.
We are all curious as to why?
>>57309375
Delusional chink. Colonialism isn't a charity. If there's zero natural resources you'll get the bare minimum missionaries. A colored nation barred entry from a dozen missionaries! Pride!!
>>57309678
Physics, something Asians never figured out independently.
>>57309684
>>57309699
Triggered
>>57308445
it's different from warships of modern times.
japanese ships were more of floating blockhouses than maneuverable warships back then. samurais didn't think much of ships because they preferred onboard close combats.
>>57309584
Then rich and powerful Japanese then accused the West of forcing unequal treaties while the common man enjoyed far more opportunities as a result.
>>57308381
The japanese ship looks like someone told the nips, who never saw warships, they were water fortresses and literally made a fortress that floats in water.
The korean one looks metal as fuck, I mean look at that dragon head. Vote goes to korea
>>57309759
>>zealots v.s. marines with medivac support
>The Japanese faced Yi Sun-shin enough times to get schooled but they never learned.
>>57308865
t. Kim
>>57308901
The Japanese one is pretty much a floating fortress for coasts only, apparently they were iron plated.
one looks like a house, and the other has a dragon... and are those cannons? i'll go with the second one. besides it reminds a lot of age of empires II
>>57309821
that turtleship is nothing but an imaginary rebuilding. in fact there is no vital material evidence of its existence. all the turtleship thing and "naval battles" of imjin war are pretty exaggerated by korean nationalism. i once read an article that a rebuilt turtleship sank in a trial.
>>57308381
korean ship like
faster smarter
smaller crew
japan howls moving castle
>be Korean admiral
>country getting invaded by Japanese and completely emasculated
>see Japanese fleet coming towards me
>hide in an extremely rough patch of water
>get lucky and the Japanese underestimate it and lose 30 ships
>hailed as a war hero for hiding
>>57309884
as the pic >>57308695 shows japan obliterated their navy irl.
koreans only "won" irrelevant skirmishes or harassing small convoys.
it's only reasonable that japan didn't give a shit.
Asian history will never be taken seriously due to the amount of butthurt, nationalism and fabrications.
>>57310050
What are you going on about?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_ship#Turtle_ships_today
It literally says that a research group made replicas and deployed them for some TV show. Not to mention there are japanese documentation on it. Why are you straight up lying?
>>57310050
t. anguri takeshi
![HMS%20Victory%20Painted%20Close%20L80%20-%2001.jpg_0_1024x897[1].jpg_osCsid=3fdvnv4qbm84rgm4gsh9u5isg5.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YWebRvH.jpg "HMS%20Victory%20Painted%20Close%20L80%20-%2001.jpg_0_1024x897[1].jpg_osCsid=3fdvnv4qbm84rgm4gsh9u5isg5.jpg")
how can the gookboats even hope to compete?
>>57310102
pretty much this
i really don't understand koreans try to conflate their meme naval battles to relevant ones like battle of trafalger, tsushima, midway, etc. i mean all of those relevant ones fended enemy landing off while mainland korea was landed and utterly devastated.
>>57309177
Ever heard of scorched earth? That was the fucking point.
>>57310270
Didn't you know japan had a god emperor a thousand years before anything was written down about him?
>>57310379
Wasn't the Victory built some 150 years after the Imjin War? That's like saying, "Hurr, look at muh HMAS Melbourne compared to the HMS Victory."
>>57310443
Actually the deification of the Japanese monarch is a retroactive affair. No doubt influenced by Chinese imperial customs including the 'mandate of heaven'.
>>57310405
just because being shithole means you are executing a grand strategy.
plus, imjin war is all about japan vs china.
>>57308381
>Which do you like better
Chinese. They can into long distance.
>>57310479
Japanese ships in the 1700s were pretty much the same as ships hundreds of years earlier, you only started to get good at ship building in the 1800s.
>>57310652
Japan was never good at shipbuilding. You know the Japanese battleships that fought at Tsushima were all built by the Scots rights?
>>57310379
ok
>>57310381
>battle of trafalger, tsushima, midway, etc.
Don't mention Trafalgar along with all those one sided engagements.
>>57310689
She was commissioned too late to a world that no longer gives a shit about big guns.
>>57310689
Should had built more carriers.
>>57310688
Yeah, that's why I said started to get good, you tried hard in the Bakumatsu period though.
>>57310845
>build more carriers
>planes are shit anyway
>lose
???
>>57310822
>>57310845
as a matter of fact, yamato and USS north carolina were built in almost the same period (1937-40), and americans built next iowa class while yamato was the last bb for japan. so it was still the thing when she was being constructed.
>>57310881
Your planes dont need to be good when your pilots are so fanatical they can turn them into huge guided bombs.
Kamikazes are proto cruise missiles
>>57310982
Yes thank you for the meme answer
>>57310688
it's more of a matter of needs, japan built european style ships in the 17th century and they even visit europe by that, but they didn't continue that.
Man japanese are really fucking butthurted here keep it up
>>57310579
except history texts tell they used scorched earth tactics to the point civilians were involved. I don't give a shit about any of your trash countries, but I hate delusional people more. China and Korea had a tributary relationship and envoys often traveled to Korea. Their infrastructure was similar to China in terms of roads and resources. Stay delusional nip.
>>57311031
Non meme anwer : jap planes were not that bad
>>57311065
Imagine if Date Masamune became Shogun, there'd been at least half-a-dozen Japanese speaking countries in existence today.
>>57311065
Where did they visit?
>>57311156
Nah there would just be more museums dedicated to more of the nukes we dropped.
>>57311274
and nuked cities that look better today than most US cities?
>>57311156
I liked Date Masamune not because of his badassery but because of his sense of irony and progressive thinking. The man tried to secure Japan's place as a mercantile imperialist power during the age of sail, but he was born too late to an era when status quo in Japan was already set by Hideyoshi and Ieyasu.
>>57311334
and? Good for you, but we want more museums about how butthurt you are.
>>57311334
Shots fired, and this Jap didn't need a second amendment in his constitution to do it.
>>57311216
portugues, spain, rome, etc.
>>57311334
pretty good
>>57311445
WELCOME TO DETROIT BIOTCH
>>57308381
Why not both?
>>57310479
>1565
>2500 tons
>138 cannons
vs
>Armored turtle ship.
Who win
>>57311400
>>57311334
I am getting here that people actually want to get nuked. I knew japan was a cuck
>>57311156
>>57311368
>this is what gooks actually believe
>>57308381
>Korean turtle ship Vs Japanese troop carrier ship
this is just worng.
NO, just no.
>>57311533
What do your white neighbors say otherwise, continental horse lord?
>>57311533
shhhh... Let them have their imagination. It is all they have left since they are not relevant in the real world anymore after our little affair with them.
>>57311630
actually woulda been pretty scary that they were way more relevant than you there for a bit damn
>>57311533
He's right though, there probably wouldn't have been isolation if he was shogun.
>>57311630
>3rd highest gdp
>not relevant
kill yourself Chang
>>57310689
>>57310822
wasn't one of the mane things was they were too afraid of the ship sinking and losing the moral.
>>57311722
Only takes up around 5-6% share and some EU countries hover around that while we take up 20+%. Nice cherrypicking you dumb brit. Nice to know the small genepool over there is finally showing.
>>57311722
Well Japan is fading into irrelevancy. Varsity education is pretty lulzy. Even the graduate hiring process is...well they could try harder by asking candidates their GPAs and leadership experience,summer jobs and so on..lol
they both look retarded desu, would get btfo by euro ships anytime
>>57311674
>Japan ever relevant
They fought a weak Russian army off once and that was it. Since when was Japan ever relevant.
>>57311747
Yes, after all they did name the ship after their ethnicity.
>>57311674
lol. japan was an opportunistic junior axis partner trying to ride off from germany's momentum
>>57311675
so? i was dismissing japan's capabilities to project power, isolation or no isolation
>>57311894
When your sister bought a used Camry?
>>57311927
Nice to know you finally admit defeat nip.
>>57311913
This. Japan basically got territory for free during WWI cause germany was too busy in EU to focus on its territory in China. Then in WWII it got more for free since Germany was fighting the Brits and the Brits were too busy to commit fully to china.
>>57311894
fun fact: the russian fleet while traveling to japan around the horn of africa engaged multiple european civilian ships thinking they were nip ships, sinking none of them
fun fact 2: the ships had meter thick layers of seaweed accumulated
truly heroic victory against a truly formidable foe
>>57312018
>the ships had meter thick layers of seaweed accumulated
wow so stupid russians lolololol
>>57312013
She was like, "Oh look at this cute car I bought, Gosh it's an automatic, mileage is not bad."
while you and your dad gave her this disapproving look seeing as the car doesn't take up half the road and does more than "20 miles to the gallon" I actually had to look up on the internet to find out how much a gallon is.
>>57308381
Both rook same to me.
>>57312128
that's the point, russia wasn't a naval power at all, which makes the japanese naval victory fairly unimpressive (though still the first colored nation to do something like that)
>>57311913
learn history. japan had been fighting china before germany began shit.
>>57312013
>this comes from the pussiest country established by genociding shitty natives equipped with sticks and stones and has NEVER been up against relevant powers by themselves, and even its independence war was helped by other country
lmaoooooo
>>57312174
>Both rook same to me.
said the Baltic Slav whose country I couldn't give a shit if i can't find it on an Atlas while offending a Latvian for some reason.
>>57312210
doesn't matter when they lost both in land and sea lmaooooooooo
>>57312210
>(though still the first colored nation to do something like that)
Surely the Finnish peoples were scoring victories on the salty waters that no horse can drink from long before the Japanese.
>>57312220
i'm talking about se-asia. (although i'm not admitting terrorizing a small slice of chinese coast as impressive) japan should have just kept to north strike group and be useful but that's too fucking hard.
>>57311927
>>57312155
>I actually had to look up on the internet to find out how much a gallon is.
ok I got a chuckle nip, but it is getting a bit sad. You are trying to win with this sad attempt and toyota uses around 90% American made parts anyways. Also my sister has a kia which is actually really fucking funny now I think about it.
GREAT GLORIOUS JAPANESE SHIP
GREAT GLORIOUS JAPANESE SHIP
GREAT GLORIOUS JAPANESE SHIP
GREAT GLORIOUS JAPANESE SHIP
GREAT GLORIOUS JAPANESE SHIP
>>57312315
>You are trying to win with this sad attempt and toyota uses around 90% American made parts anyways.
Does that explain the recalls?
>>57312306
japan went to SEA in response to US embargo and supports to china.
it's called cause and effect.
>>57312278
supply time from moscow by train 2 weeks (by ship 2 years), supply time from japan by ship 2 days. russia was in about the worst shape for war but that isn't a new strategy for opportunistic japan.
>>57312403
much more oil in far eastern russia than the entire se asia combined
>>57312303
You guys lost more men to the stupid tsar. Only reason you won was better supply line and suicide charges. Finns defended their country from a commie russia with way fewer and killed 6-7x more than they lost.
>>57312377
Nah, that was your shitty engineering. How about you google you dumb nip
>>57311913
Why are you dismissing their ability to project power? They conquered all of South East Asia and that was with the isolation, we're talking about what would happen if a guy who appreciated the west were the shogun.
>>57311794
Even if they only have 5% share they're still the 3rd largest economy you dumb yank.
>>57312504
>supply time from MOSCOW
GLORIOUS RUSSIAN EMPIRE BANZAI!!
>>57309375
>who in turn outsmarted the Spanish from turning their country Catholic
There's nothing smart about not being Christian.
>>57312504
>known and exploited gisements
>frozen land which requires expensive investment for prospection and exploitation
It's quite logical to go for the immediate benefits when you need the ressources urgently
>>57312542
>They conquered all of South East Asia and that was with the isolation,
Wat?
Tokugawa Japan didn't conquer shit in Southeast Asia. What drugs are you on?
Japanese navies were the laughingstock of the ???-1700's East Asia.
>>57312504
>supply time from moscow by train 2 weeks (by ship 2 years), supply time from japan by ship 2 days. russia was in about the worst shape for war but that isn't a new strategy for opportunistic japan.
hahaha, cry more! by your rationale, ww2 japan fought in by far the largest battleground of human history. no wonder logistics collapsed and lost to shitty opportunistic amerifats.
>much more oil in far eastern russia than the entire se asia combined
too bad, that was hardly known in that era.
>>57312515
>You guys lost more men to the stupid tsar.
yeah, russians were in a massive fortress and japan defeated that with bruteforce.
>>57312570
Holy fuck Brits... Ranking doesn't mean shit when they are that close. Ever heard on context or is that something unheard of in your place.
>>57312641
>>57312542
south east asia when europe was concentrating on fucking germany and soviet union. trying the same a 100 or 400 years earlier would have had japan utterly assraped
>>57312643
japan was already in developing manchuria just fine. fact is they were too scared of SU so they went elsewhere, also costing the entire war when SU could concentrate on Germany
>>57312641
>There's nothing smart about not being Christian.
Only mentioned Catholics you Papist Dane.
>>57308695
>Yi sung shin
>Japan conquered the entire Korea
Credibility rapidly dropping
>>57312691
Read the posts senpai
>>57312755
We're talking about alternate history where a guy who liked the west was shogun though, Japan became a great power really quickly after they westernized, imagine how great they'd be if they didn't have to go through such a drastic westernization.
>>57312697
You both had fortresses you idiot. You basically had Korea for 10 years before the war started. At most Russia was the one without defenses. Russia negotiated with you guys for months to build their military strength.
>>57312702
How don't rankings matter when Japan has been consistently top 3 since the 70s? And how are they close? There's a significant gap between Japan and the country behind them.
>>57312697
>by your rationale, ww2 japan fought in by far the largest battleground of human history
what? a few days supply to coastal china isn't even remotely comparable to supplying from black sea around the horn of africa to russian far east
>too bad, that was hardly known in that era.
yet considered earlier for resources than se-asia. japan was just scared shitless of soviet union
>>57312903
yes read the post you replied to again. japan became a great power when there was zero competition. try the same when all of europe was concentrating on dividing the rest of the world instead of each other
>>57311368
>Date Masamune
>Knows he might get sentenced to death because he's late to battle
> turn up to the battle anyway in a death row inmate's getup
>impresses all the big wigs
>shit's cool, the boss is impressed, get invited to an art connoisseur club.
BASED DATE MASAMUNE
>>57312755
>manchuria
A wasteland compared to the refineries of dutch east indies
>>57308381
just off this one picture i'd have to say i like the japanese one more
>>57312755
>trying the same a 100 or 400 years earlier would have had japan utterly assraped
rofl, not only did japan have shitload of guns, but also japanese mercenaries of that era were routinely beating troops of western colonies in SEA.
they were so good that the spanish asked a shogun to give them many japanese men to take english/dutch possessions in the region and china, even though it was rejected.
>>57313115
Whitey took all the nice parts of the world while Japan was HUE HUE RICE FARMING 4 LIFE,
>>57308381
Korea's looks like something out of Mad Max.
>>57313063
They could easily do it, even as late as the mid 1800s there was a lot of unclaimed land in SEA.
>>57312013
>WW1
>EU
:D
>>57313022
>significant gap between Japan and the country behind them
Cause >1% gap with germany is so significant compared to china's 8+% gap and usa's 15+% gap. uk, you are officially dumb as bricks.
>>57313085
>Date Masamune
>Wants his first legitimate child to be a boy
>Gets a daughter instead
>Gives her a boy's name
TROLLIN' DATE MASAMUNE
>>57313263
typo, was trying to finish europe, autocorrect made it EU :/
>>57313266
Japan 4,602,367
Germany 3,874,437
Yeah, not significant at all.
Kill yourself.
>>57313022
you can nitpick all you want. germany, france, uk, are barely trailing despite having half the population
>>57313128
it was probably rejected because it wasn't base on reality in any traditional sense of the word
>>57313223
nope
>>57313063
>what? a few days supply to coastal china isn't even remotely comparable to supplying from black sea around the horn of africa to russian far east
pic related
>yet considered earlier for resources than se-asia. japan was just scared shitless of soviet union
that's a meme. dutch indies' oil was unquestionable while searching and developing siberian oil was uncertain.
plus, one of the primary objectives of SEA invasion along with oil was to cut off china's southern supply lines through which massive supplies flew into there.
>>57313393
The fact that European economies are trailing behind is meaningless, we're discussing the relevancy of Japan and despite the fact that they've been 2nd or 3rd place since the 70s he doesn't think so.
>nope
If you really don't think a Japan with no isolation would be able to conquer the lands unclaimed by Europe in South East Asia you're pretty delusional.
>>57313336
US: 17,418.925
China:10,380.380
Cute you think a difference of less than 1,000,000 means something. Literally germany and uk below it combined can beat japan, while germany and japan together can't beat chiina. Kill yourself.
>>57313393
>>57313609
those things happen only because japan's population is declining and aging at the fastest speed now.
90's japan's GDP was larger than germany and france combined and per capita was even higher than norway.
>>57313609
USA population
322,369,319
China population
1,376,049,000
USA size
9,857,306 km2
China size
9,596,961 km2
Japan population
126,919,659
Germany population
81,459,000
Japan size
377,944 km2
Germany size
357,168 km2
It's almost as if countries with lots of good land have better economies!
>>57313432
>pic related
pacific happens to be the largest ocean in the world. the area doesn't translate in any sense to something on land. the relevant areas on your pic would be chinese east coast and chinese south coast.
>>57313577
Fact is the west is a pretty unified polity with 60% of the world's GDP. Period. 5% of world GDP isn't very relevant on the global stage especially when your foreign policy is controlled by the US.
Nominal GDP per capita in USD
12. United States 54,306
19. Germany 47,966
21. United Kingdom 46,461
26. France 42,802
29. Japan 36,298
30. Italy 35,812
>If you really don't think a Japan with no isolation would be able to conquer the lands unclaimed by Europe in South East Asia you're pretty delusional.
maybe papua new guinea if we're being very generous but that's about it
>>57313793
keyword here is "was". Your GDP is constantly falling and now people are more focused in china.
>>57313794
No shit sherlock. Congrats on your discovery. What is your point?
>>57313810
Are you seriously combining the entire west? I'd understand the EU but even then it's 20%
>maybe papua new guinea if we're being very generous but that's about it
You really don't know much about Japanese history, they pretty much made emasculating Koreans a national sport, they could've easily conquered all they wanted in SEA, especially with western tech.
>>57308381
korean is way better, learn to make boats baka
>>57313577
If you really don't think a Japan with no isolation would be able to conquer the lands unclaimed by Europe in South East Asia you're pretty delusional.
You are the delusional one. You think China and Korea, given their history, would let Japan touch any country?
>>57308381
Korean ship reminds me of bowser
>>57314002
You think China or Korea would be any threat at all against a westernized Japan? Japan was destroying them with just shitty guns.
>>57313793
this kind of delusion is encoded in the japanese language itself. 'lost decade' like it wasn't a bubble but real economic growth and growth should continue where it left of. half of japan retired in 1990 makes sense.
>>57313949
i think i know more about japanese history than you. maybe you watch too much animé?
>>57314060
Japan was destroying civilized countries while being barely westernized, they'd be able to absolutely destroy any non European country if they were westernized.
>>57313810
so, you mean russians transporting troops from moscow to east asia through siberian railway is a tough work and japan's pumping up its troops and supplies into countless battlefields ranging from china and the proximity of alaska to SEA and fucking southern hemisphere is a piece of cake? what a double standard you have! xD
>>57313938
yeah, which means china and america, both having 11x and 2.5x population respectively and incomparable landmasses, can only beat japan when japanese population is aging and declining quickly. pretty impressive!! lmaoooo
no wonder 80's americans feared the samurai taking over the world xDDDDDDDD
>>57313949
You think Korea is the same Korea from the 19-20th century? Holy fuck... S. Korea has been on red alert for the past 50 years with mandatory military service. Then there is also China who is 10+% of the GDP in the world. Twice of Japan's. You think they are going to sit back and watch that shit happen. They can mechanize easily with all the factories they own. I would almost say they would beat the US if they just went for a more militarized force early on.
>You really don't know much about Japanese history, they pretty much made emasculating Koreans a national sport, they could've easily conquered all they wanted in SEA, especially with western tech.
Except everyone has western tech. China arguably are more up to date with its military hardware while the Japs are using mostly American. Korea has its own line of guns ffs they produce exclusively.
>Japan was destroying them with just shitty guns.
You dumb fuck, Japan was one of the first to adopt guns and they were imported from the West so yeah, they were way ahead of its time in its day. They were in no means shitty.
>>57314364
Read the conversation
>>57314327
yes, relatively to the scale of battle it was tough work
>can only beat japan when japanese population is aging and declining quickly. pretty impressive!! lmaoooo
welcome to what's been happening to the west for 100 years. in 1900 a third of the world population was white, down now to 10%, yet the west still manages nicely. japan like every other colored country bred like rabbits in the 40s-60s, maybe this excess of young people contributed to the bubble?
>>57314162
>>57314413
You mean this? Exactly what civilized "countries"? They beat Russia because the Tsar was an idiot and supply lines favored the Japs. Japs still lost more men and Russia surrendered CONDITIONALLY because revolts were happening in the tsar's own country. Not to mention Russia had fewer defenses and Japan had occupied Korea for 10 years by then.
China was carved up into spheres of influence so it was extremely weak and not to mention that they were just starting to use western tech at that point.
Brits barely fought, they sent their colonies and in small numbers to do it. Mostly India.
The fuck are you talking about
>>57314692
I'm going to bed, read conversations before you butt in in future senpai.
>japan gets teared a new one the thread
>>57314747
>shit... I am wrong and I got nothing to say. I am gonna just say I am gonna go to bed and pretend that the guy has no idea what is going on
Bedtime for one of the dumbest being I have ever known
>>57314498
>yes, relatively to the scale of battle it was tough work
that's puny compared to the scale of ww2.
>welcome to what's been happening to the west for 100 years. in 1900 a third of the world population was white, down now to 10%, yet the west still manages nicely.
baby boom occurred in almost every relevant country after ww2 though.
plus, japan's aging rate is the fastest in the world, which have never occurred in human history.
>>57314692
>They beat Russia because the Tsar was an idiot and supply lines favored the Japs.
you beat japan because tojo was an idiot and supply lines favored A LOT you xD
seriously, how can amerifats have the audacity to trivialize japan's victories, that have singlehandedly defeated great powers, while they can only fight with allies in favored opportunities???
>>57315190
>baby boom occurred in almost every relevant country after ww2 though.
more so in colored countries like japan
>plus, japan's aging rate is the fastest in the world, which have never occurred in human history.
nope. white west is aging faster, some immigration is just dampening it. in countries without immigration, korea is aging far faster than japan yet they're doing fine. (they recently even surpassed japan in ppp GDP per capita!)
>while they can only fight with allies in favored opportunities???
XDD trivializing america was the only way for you to look even more retarded. congratulations
>>57315190
Cause the Tsar was? His own people were trying to overthrow him(and did in favor of communism) and he joined WWI cause he wanted to show he was a world power. He was an absolute joke in every history book. Supply lines extremely favored the Japs cause they already setup a supply lines in korea. I also like how you ignored the part about casualties and defense structures. Sure the Americans had favored supply lines, but we still lost less men and Japan had dug in by then. Sorry are these facts hurting your feelings? They literally beat 1 "great" power, so stop saying powers, and they were quite lucky.
>>57308381
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>>57308381
superior navies of the period (dutch, spanish, portuguese) were using different type of ships so clearly neither
>>57315464
>nope. white west is aging faster, some immigration is just dampening it. in countries without immigration,
opinion discarded
>korea is aging far faster than japan yet they're doing fine.
not really.
because korea's birthrate had been high until the mid 80's, the majority are still relatively young in korea, so the share of working age population is way higher than japan. they are still standing the point where japan was around in the early 90's. and even so their growth rate's been pretty decreasing recently.
>XDD trivializing america was the only way for you to look even more retarded. congratulations
i only hear that when your country has ever defeated at least russia and china singlehandedly xD
lets not fight
>>57315622
>Sure the Americans had favored supply lines, but we still lost less men and Japan had dug in by then.
of course
over 60% of japanese troops died from starvation and diseases, not in battles, in the pacific, which shows how supply lines were the determining factor in the war.
>powers japan has singlehandedly defeated in history
mongol, russia, china
>america
none
XDDDDDD
>>57315623
nah, this one is better
>>57315947
i said white europe, can't you read? what you're seeing in the graph is very much by colored immigrants. so now japan has a whopping 5% smaller working age population. however japan's unemployment rate is half of that typical in the west because japan can't afford social security. what kind of mental gymnastics do you have to perform to explain japan's current economic performance compared to the peak of the bubble being caused by a 2% difference in employed population?
>i only hear that when your country has ever defeated at least russia and china singlehandedly xD
ad hominem. and when did japan ever do anything of that sort??
>defeated russia and china
this is what weebs actually believe
>>57316330
they are the same
Why are there butt mad Americans on this thread about Asians?
The Japanese economy is shit BTW. We've got uni grads getting paid way less than their Western counterparts in the same industries.
>>57316348
>what you're seeing in the graph is very much by colored immigrants
doesn't matter when they are part of economy, and which is why the west take immigrants in to begin with.
the west looks doing well because they are keeping working age population compared to japan by importing immigrants, which cause shitstorm and butthurt among autusts often seen on /int/ at the same time xDDDDDDDDD
and western euros are developing, so it's only natural to have fair growth rates
>>57316783
*eastern euros
>>57312174
great banter fellow estonian
>>57308381
Both are pretty useless on ocean
t.grandson of a fisherman and Vikang by blood
>>57308381
The bottom because its more useful and the Japs never fucking learned after getting continuously wrecked by it
>>57308381
why the fuck does it have a house on that Nippon ship?
>>57317126
>t.grandson of a fisherman and Vikang by blood
You're making a lot of presumptions here.
>>57316783
I don't believe the refugees would be accounted for in that chart.
Your low working age population is just because nobody in Japan is having babies.
>>57317525
>Vikang by blood
Vikang
[Wee-keng]
noun
1. A Uralic corruption of Ukilen Khan, a Mongol conqueror of most of E Europe to the Dnieper River. b.1162 d.1227, often forgotten in the annals of history.
>>57310102
I would say that's smart use of environment and conservation of resources. Truly a great strategy. Only a fool would attack openly when being overwhelmed in numbers.
>>57308443
Unrelated question but Im just super curious. Are you ethically Cambodian?
