Why do people think the IRA was a terrorist organization and not a freedom fighting one?
Most people think that IRA was doing a rightful fight but the UK has done a great job estigmatizing it.
>>57282047
Literally propaganda war.
>>57282047
They stopped fighting for freedom when they started killing women, children and other non combatants on the mainland.
>>57282047
because they bombed non-combatants for memes
>>57282100
an eye for an eye, faggot. terrorism for a famine.
LONG LIVE THE IRA
>>57282100
You mean like the Brits?
>>57282100
>started killing women, children and other non combatants
Sounds like the Kurds we're supporting
>>57282047
I'm curious as to your opinion about Hamas.
Are they terrorists or freedom fighters?
>>57282100
British army had a higher ratio of civilians killed than the IRA
>>57282084
In the US most people don't see the IRA like the Taliban or ISIS
Which IRA are we talking about?
Free State?
Anti-Treaty?
Stickies?
Provos?
"Real"?
>>57282047
because of all the terrorist stuff they did
>>57282156
>You mean like the Brits?
Sticks and stones there mate, those women and children being blown up were as guilty of war crimes as the people working in the WTC when the jet when screaming in. Neither side is innocent or guilty but you leave non combatants out of it.
The INLA was cooler.
>>57282100
Collateral damage happens in all wars
>>57282295
The targets of your attack cannot be collateral damage.
Are you literally retarded?
>>57282295
It wasn't a war, it was a bunch of kids murdering each other while the grownups were trying to have a proper argument. They significantly delayed any process towards sectarian peace in NI and poisoned the public's minds against their goals.
>>57282100
UK killed more civilians than the IRA
>>57282295
>Collateral damage happens in all wars
Thats exactly what those two guys said when they blew up the Boston marathon.
please don't consider literal, actual factual terrorist organisations as 'the good guys'
thanks
The IRA were righteous freedom fighters kicking out their colonial masters
I only wish their car bombs killed more people, the only good br*t is a dead br*t
>>57282583
This is patently false. According to the Sutton index of deaths from the conflict in Ireland, British security forces killed 186 civilians and republican paramilitaries killed 722.
There is no possible way you can misconstrue a 4 to 1 margin as "UK killed more civilians than the IRA" unless you're a fucking retard, that is.
BRITS DINDUNUFFIN
I'm not Irish, what would I know and why would I have an opinion
Remove all colonial Brits from Ulster!
>>57283231
the ira are pretty much the only america-funded terrorist organisation that haven't blown back
...yet?
>>57283127
to be fair, a) let's consult the 'two wrongs' doctrine, and b) Sunday, Bloody Sunday keeps u2 in the news every good friday so
>>57282047
technically its both , the definitions are not mutually exclusive .
the freedom fighting thing is because they wanted brits off and the terrorists one is because they bombed random people unrelated to their shit .
>>57284961
>bombed random people
That was the loyalists.
>>57282047
Because dumb alcoholics from Boston and the northeast who have maybe a great grandparent from Ireland buy 100% into the myth of Irish people being innocent and infallible throughout history, to the point of funneling money and guns to the IRA regardless of what actual Irish people thought about the conflict.
>>57282128
tbqh fuck you.
if you think eye for an eye is okay, then I guess you think sharia is a pretty good thing
The amount of muh heritage """"""Irish"""""" Americans on here obsessed with the IRA is fucking hilarious. The memes are real.
>>57282100
More British disinformation from the ministry of propaganda!
the IRA killed less civilians overall and much less as a percentage. They didn't specifically target civilians like Loyalists did, they also didn't commit torture against random targets.
IRA- 723 civilians killed, 35 percent of their total
Loyalist paras-877 civs killed, 85 percent of their casualties.
The biggest attack of the troubles happened in the republic
Irish men have the right to bear arms against foreign forces in Ireland.
At the very least they have a right to be treated as equal citizens which they weren't afforded before the troubles.
You can't blame someone for joining the IRA if they were burnt out of their houses.
Discriminated against when looking for a job.
Excluded from politics due to gerrymandering.
All in their own country.
It is easy to justify the IRA.
>>57286134
>sharia is bad
you kuffar will learn one day the glory of islam insha'allah
>>57286134
>le sharia is bad
>>57286134
Hanz, don't worry you'll be having sharia law implemented in little germoney very soon, and like the apologists that you are, you will do fuck all.
>>57286170
>More British disinformation from the ministry of propaganda!
>but first here's some stuff i copied and pasted i think you should read
uh
>>57282100
Daily reminder that the majority of civilian casualties and warcrimes were committed by loyalists and the Brits.
>>57282100
>killing women, children and other non combatants
shit, reminds me of something
>anglos in charge of moral superiority
>>57286548
>>57286624
proofs
the IRA are not a monolithic entity. they are whatever the particular circumstances demand them to be to extend their profit margin. they adjust to the times they exist in
the Troubles called for them to be 'terrorists' .... but the Troubles are now well and truly over. they're currently highly organized criminals who kill anyone who stands in their way ... cause the troubles are over and there is no motivation for them to re-ignite the troubles
>though with all the muslims in europe these days I doubt anyone would notice if they did
>>57282047
Go away, Plastic Paddy.
>>57286548
>Daily reminder that the majority of civilian casualties and warcrimes were committed by loyalists and the Brits.
Sure, they were good boys and dindu nuffin! You really think their friends and family were going to openly admit poor Paddy was IRA?
>tfw you want to know how many civilians your people killed but there are no proofs anywhere
entire troubles was just a bit of craic desu
>>57282241
in the US most people don't even see their feet
>>57287548
what's the crack la
WELCOME TO MTV CRIBS
HUNGRY BOGWOG SPECIAL
HERE WE ARE WITH BOBBY 'GIVE ME A TATER' SANDS AND HIS SHITE-COVERED WALLS.
CLASSY.
>>57282226
They didnt, the UVF only killed "civilians" like gerry adams, who was technically a civilian
>>57287773
>irish are subhuman potato niggers lol
>british cant even defeat a few hundred of them
congratulations, you played yourself
>>57288004
>he's too busy covering his walls in poo to take back the north
>>57287893
the Br*tish army + RUCkilled more civilians as a percentage of what they killed. IRA killed more overall
and the unionists strategy was to kill any Catholic, so that the Catholic community against the IRA. Watch/Read Peter Taylors stuff on the troubles and in his interviews with unionists they literally state that was their objective
It was a bunch of niggers that's only cause was muh republic even though there was no fucking reason for that, and to get it they used coward's warfare. They were freedom fighters, but they're still pricks.
>>57288159
>mfw his death increased support for the IRA around the world tenfold
>>57288004
They couldn't defeat the 'ra because the IRA was a guerilla warfare '''''''''''''''''army'''''''''''''''' against a conventional army, of course they won. They climbed a tree to beat a fish m8, they used fucking cowardly tactics to beat an objectively superior foe.
>>57288543
>the shite on his walls increased tenfold despite the complete and utter lack of potatoes
>>57288342
>>57288527
>cowards warfare
I'm sorry their warfare doth not meet ones standards of chivalry.
They should have donned suits of armour and charged the Br*ts on horseback
steady on now
>>57288707
>>57287773
these guys didnt live in the 'Refugees Welcome/Sweden Yes/I'll ride with you' era
I'm no leftist myself ... but these guys, just like the socialists of the late 1800s/early 1900 actually represented the true meaning of leftist policies and why they existed
I wish the left hadn't become infected by the SJW pro-muslim pro-open borders cancer it eventually became consumed by
>>57282100
Thousand times this
>>57288707
It's not a matter of chivalry, it's a matter of a bunch of cunts gunning people down then running like cowards, they should've just not done it, just realised their cause was retarded and given up.
>>57288830
but they did live in the 'i shall paint my walls in excrement and refuse to eat (implying there was any food to begin with) until oireland is free' era.
>>57288896
>keep accidentally using the trip from the risk threads
The only thing I've heard of the IRA recently is that they literally went to retired soldiers houses and killed them while they weren't expecting it.
IRA are scum, and nowadays, literal drug dealers.
>>57288986
not surprised a br*t can't see the bravery and endurance it takes to go on hunger strike. It also doesnt hurt anyone but yourself
paki like you would probably see more honour in blowing yourself up on a crowded bus
>>57289138
I'd have thought your people would be used to starvation.
>>57289138
It's the grown up equivalent of a child holding their breath because they want a toy, it's petty and shameful.
>>57289188
maybe thats why he lasted so long :^)
>>57289138
>literally so scared of my nation he can't even bring himself to spell it
POO
ON
WALL
>>57288986
Ah nai William, you should get back to tweeting the big man :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge6SxKPK0s8
Post your funniest rebel songs
>>57282047
Everyone here knows the difference between freedom fighters and terrorists.
I wouldn't call those, that think IRA was a terrorist organization, people.
Western-centric media tend to demonize certain groups of people that are against their owners and governors.
BBC is a biased company when it comes to IRA.
CNN is also biased, their opinions and propaganda shouldn't be taken seriously.
Snowden, Assange and gamergate have exposed western media and their propaganda, shit in Libya and Syria and Ukraine furthered the exposure of ciminally biased articles and reports that have almost nothing in common with the reality of the situation, and as shit cherry on top of the shit cake, their reports and propaganda about rapefugees and the invasion of Europe by the muslim arab mujahedin and the rest of the sandnigger horde.
Western media are a joke.
>>57289511
>he takes goobergab, snowden and assange seriously
>>57282047
Because their strategy was to collapse the government of Ireland and kill so many British that the Brits would be forced to leave, with a consistent theme of escalation and never talking peace.
Therefore independence.
Basically terrorism.
CIRA and the RIRA/NIRA from the IRA basically running around killing random people.
Omagh bombings for example, RIRA killing 28 civilians and maiming 200+ for no reason. Groups like these bombing British television stations and all the likes.
The violent actions ironically have driven everything into the favor of the Brits.
They are a splinter of organized gangs really.
>mfw people think the IRA were ever anything other than a mafia-type organization
the Quiet Man even alluded to their criminality ... and that was made in the 40s
>>57288604
>playing to your disadvantage
you'd be shit at war tbqh
catholics are shit and deserve to die
also northern ireland is british all the papists can fuck off back to their half of the island
>>57282156
There is a difference between killing non combatants incidentally during a conflict and setting out to kill them as your mission
>>57282100
you mean like the boer war?
>>57289058
fuck terrorists
>>57291385
fuck proxy fags
>>57288896
west brit detected
how's ballsbridge m8?
>>57283127
Of those killed by British security forces:
187 (~51.5%) were civilians
Of those killed by republican paramilitaries:
723 (~35%) were civilians
Of those killed by loyalist paramilitaries:
878 (~85.4%) were civilians
>>57282047
>killing civilians
>blowing shit up
>muh religion, killed people for being a different sect
these faggots are literally mudshit tier
>>57294256
>muh religion, killed people for being a different sect
>>57293787
>west brit
Corkonian speaking, as far south as one can go actually
>>57282047
>fund IRA
>get bombed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xiXroQp8t4
>>57282047
Because the citizens of Northern Ireland voted to remain in the union
>>57295426
The great irony being that Boston and New York were the two greatest sources of finance and arms for the terrorists.
They both got what they deserved.
>>57295507
>gerrymander statelet to maximise land gain while keeping demographics in your favour
>"it's just democracy bruv"
Northern Ireland shouldn't really exist to begin with
As someone who doesn't know a lot about the situation, is a united Ireland something that could happen in the future? How did it get to the point of not being united? It seems weird that the UK still holds on to a part of Ireland to me, it doesn't seem right t.bh
I'd like to see one ireland in my lifetime desu
>>57296028
>is a united Ireland something that could happen in the future?
yes, but extremely unlikely in our lifetime imo.
it's much more likely that northern ireland remains part of the UK. there's a better chance of it leaving the UK and just being independent than there is it joining with the republic.
>How did it get to the point of not being united?
the Anglo-Irish Treaty was signed giving ROI independence. NI refused to leave the UK (it had a large protestant settler community who saw themselves as british, never irish.)
>>57282169
name on instanse of kurds in syria or Iraq targeting civilians you fucking cockroach
>>57288604
they couldn't beat them because they weren't ruthless enough, saddam had 14 out of 16 provinces in Iraq rise up against him yet he still crushed the rebels, small arms dont do shit to helicopters and tanks, blending into a civilian crowd doesn't work when entire neighborhoods are slaughtered and people are burned alive. cant hide in marshes and swamps if the someone dumps posion into the water and destroys the entire eco system of a region.
>>57282437
Oh boy, shitposting again.
>>57289511
gg is a full of literal breitbert tier faggots and conspiracy theorists. though no wonder if you are one of them or a /pol/ack.
>>57282047
Because they were socialists, that received soviet funding, and the blew up cafes and nurseries.
>>57282583
Wrong. Plus they were Irish, so they dont count as human.
See: >>57283127
Except use the word blatantly
Proddies are cancer desu
>>57295507
>Gerrymandering is democracy
>THEY'RE TERRORISTS GUYS, IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT WE GENOCIDED IRISH MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN FOR CENTURIES, BUT WHEN THEY KILL A KID THEN IT IS BAD
The English really need to die. I laugh every time I see you're a minority in London and we are now a majority in Belfast. Anschluss soon.
>>57295507
lol. Classic bullshit!
>put your own citizens in another country and claim it as yours because you now make up the majority!!!
I hope the Moroccans take Rotterdam then.
I can't stand the English. I HATE THEM. REEEEEEEEE
