Was America really created by freemasons/occultists?
Not a tinfoil hat wearer, but you can't deny the overwhelming influence of freemasonry on American history/architecture/symbology/pop culture.
Not even saying those guys are evil, or almighty. Just saying that there are maybe secret clubs/traditions/symboloy which are only revealed to the "enlightened" ones.
*tips tinfoil hat respectfully*
Our president is also freemason, first elite who were japanboos also created their own mason circle
>>57275542
>13 stars
>13 colonies
WOW
ILLERMINARTY CONFRIMED
>>57275542
the only secret club there is is the one where we fug your mum
>>57275686
Dude why the fuck is there a egyptian pyramid? That doesn't make any fucking sense.
ARRR JUST COINCIDENCE XDDD THEY DID IT CUZ THEY WERE HIGH
Illuminati aside why did they go with the spooky eye pyramid thing?
Jesus fucking Christ,
does nobody here have any education? This board is fucking doomed.
Freemasonry is not a fucking secret guys despite what hollywood movies are trying to tell you. There are thousands of books. Just go to fucking Wikipedia.
>>57276013
>>57276226
Yea, a lot of the rich and powerful in the US belonged to Freemason guilds. There were also other private fraternities and societies. But not everyone, just some of them were into that sort of thing when it was en vogue
Near DC there is a massive Freemason lodge tower that's visible for miles in Alexandria, VA. Look it up, it's pretty cool
Also look at the planning of DC
>>57275542
All the americas IMO. Argentina too has a lot of masonic influence. If I was at my pc I'd dump some pics about.
Sorry freund.
>>57275542
Freemasons yes, occultists though?
I suppose, most Enlightenment thinkers kept their activities clandestine lest they get imperial troops knocking on their doors.
>>57275904
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_Providence
Tinfoil hat wearing faggots don't even know what a freemason does or what a stone cutter does. They were just a union of people or a guild and they shared a common craft. It's like being a teamster only not as pathetic. Stonecutters are literally people who cut and shaped stones for doorways and castles and other structures.
No, at first it was created by christfaggot yurogoyim, later it was hijacked by the very same kikes that brought you the USSR
yuropeans = spreading the kike disease in every corner of the world for centuries.
>>57275542
in part. they cleared played a key role. even the bar from which the rebels spawned was a freemasons bar and a lot of them were masons.
>>57275542
No. There was a lot of Enlightenment-era fedora shit going on at the time and that is reflected in the symbolism since America at the time was one of the very few republics in the world and it was explicitly founded on Enlightenment values like "muh freedom" and shit. You can see similar stuff in France, though France has bounced between republic and monarchy a lot more.
That being said Freemasons are fucking evil
>>57279045
Fucking unions.
>>57279115
masonry was speculative by that point. it wasn't a 'trade union'..
no shit sherlock
here is another mindbender:
water is fucking blue
You do know Freemasonry isn't a secret club, right?
It's literally just an old boy's hangout. You can look at your local lodges' website and apply to join. You'll see that's it's boring and nothing special.
You don't really think """""secret"""" """""societies"""""" """*controlling""""" politics have a public website, email address and ability to apply, do you?
>>57280660
Water is clear though
the fucking problem with freemasons is that none of them have ever had to do an honest days work in their lives.
They own property, they inherit their wealth.
>>57280751
And what's wrong with that(even if it were true)? Also proof?
>inb4 unsourced YouTube video with spooky music
>>57280698
I guess thats is what dissapoints me about freemasons, that they aren't some evil machaivellian force calling upon otherworldly powers and occult artifacts.
They are just a bunch of horny racist old men who still behave like frat boys even though they are already in their 50's.
Freemasonry is the means by which mediocre men achieve prominence. Its how the lesser overcomes their better.
thats the problem with modern civilization. you have a million applicants, at least a hundred of them are going to be exceptional. You have to find a way to game the system, and to do that, you have to form secret societies.
If you're just some ordinary schmoe in a meritocracy, the only advantage you have is how low your willing to sink to get to the top.
Freemasonry has more in common with 4chan than it does with occult. They are both cesspools of humanity that indulge our most base passions.
>>57280985
How is it a secret society if they have a website talking about what they do and how you can join?
They also have a fucking wikipedia page.
That has to be the WORST hidden "secret society" I have ever seen in my life, then.
>>57280889
>Horny racist men
How are they racist? They have many different races lmao.
i mean, maybe just one in a thousand is slinging vhs cassettes of kiddie snuff porn. But thats one in a thousand too many.
Its like an onion, you start peeling away layers and you start to see the rot in the center.
>>57281215
We use CD-Rom's now!
>>57281152
So they changed their "no women no niggers" policy?
I'd say overall, the freemasons are far more conservative than they are liberal, and that they tend to be outright hostile towards any sort of socialist policy, no matter how practicle or sensible it may be.
They are white, elitist, and keep the largest slice of pie for themselves. They are american aristocracy.
>>57281346
Well women aren't allowed, it's a boys club.
I'm not a member, but I have a few friends who are and was considering joining at one point.
Pic related.
>>57275542
no you stupid fucking autist
Why did we even bother fighting a war? Just so they could treat us all like fucking peasants? My government fucked me out of a job, fucked me out of education, ruined my childhood and sent my dad away to prison for life.
So yeah, you can imagine I'm a little hostile towards the fucking freemasons.
>>57281643
No you fucked yourself out of a job, you are a retard and your dad is a nigger.
What the hell makes you think it's anyone else's fault for your failures? Take some responsibility.
>>57275542
Yes. It's not like it's a secret. Masons are really great and honorable men. It's what the fraternity is built on. When you disallow all chucklefucks and women from joining your order and you structure all the brothers on faith, honor and charity with the sole intent of providing a better existence for all men, there's no limit to what you can accomplish.
The problem though comes from a taint that were once known as the illuminati. Corrupted masons who chose to use their power and superiority to serve only other initiated rather than all of mankind. Their scholar (Waishaupt, I think his name was?) wrote a book detailing how they could use the freemason's pull to dull all of humanity and shackle them into a sort of slavery through illusion while making a paradise for the 1%. Supposedly, the illuminati were banned from fremasonry though.
>>57281723
fuck you, you entitled little shit. Spend some time in the fucking real world, see what life is like outside your fucking country club and try living in the ghetto for a couple months.
>>57281786
So how is it anyone else's fault?
Explain to me right now how anyone else is responsible for your shortcomings.
>>57281727
what are you smokin' jackson? no links, no rep, no trip, no chance. Fuck off and die, tin-foil hat wearing freak.
>>57281481
I was involved with the Masons a bit when I was younger (I wasn't a member but my step-father was). All we did was charity stuff, and most of the members were pretty solidly middle-class.
>>57275542
Several founding fathers were freemasons and much symbolism is from the freemasons (especially on the dollar) but certain things like the eye on the pyramid aren't freemason, because at the time they were still Christian symbols
There is certain a great deal of freemason influence in early America
>>57281346
No women, no atheists, no mental illness, no laziness. All else is welcome and if they prove unworthy, they face expulsion. You'll never meet better men than those of the order.
Freemasons are scum.
End of fucking discussion.
>>57281911
This.
It's actually incredibly boring, for most people.
It's not uncommon for the youngest members to be around 40.
It's part of the reason it's dying out, not enough interest from new members. 20-something year olds show up a few times, feel out of place, get bored and don't show up anymore.
>>57275542
Good goys, it's the freemasons heh heh heh
>>57281723
Oh here he goes again. Look at you Canada, posting on /pol/ thinking you just said some smart shit.
Out of all countries that post here Canadians are the ones that piss me off the most. Their entire fucking culture makes no sense. What exactly is it that you do? Wear flannel shirts and slurp syrup?
If I think of America I think of guns, pop culture and freedom. Sure, lots of ignorant baboons but at least they wear their retardation like a badge of honor, use it as a cultural identity, their flag promotes the unity of the country with all these stripes and stars.
Germany is orderly, a country that prides itself on its rules and their citizens who follow them. It's also the country with the biggest responsibility when it comes to destroying Europe with its two world wars and government sanctioned refugee crisis. Their flag waves strong colors, black, red and gold. A dominant flag for a dominant country.
Russia is strong and stubborn to a fault. They live hard lives and don't complain about it. Obviously the entire country is pretty much a shithole but it breeds strong people who can take care of themselves. Their flag represents the cold, the white, the blue but also the burning passion in the red, it all comes together to signify that their country is bleak but there is strength in that.
But Canada, what are they fucking known for? Being "nice", i guess? Is that your role in the world? Being fucking nice? That's not an achievement. Everyone can be nice. It's easy to be nice. You just don't have to say anything bad.
So what did your fucking country decide to put on their flag to show the entire world what Canada is all about? A leaf. A FUCKING LEAF. You decided that you like to slurp your shitty syrup so damn much that you might as well put the fucking leaf that it's made of on the flag. You don't even respect your own country so why the hell should I.
>>57282155
Nice meme, my white friend. Very original and creative.
>>57282223
Butthurt, faggot? Your reaction to this has made me even more potent than before. Now that I know this is personally hurting you I am going to think about this later and laugh out loud to myself at your stupidity.
You are just another stupid troll who thought he could run with the big boys, right? You're a dime a dozen where I'm from, kid. You wouldn't last two minutes in some of the chatrooms I hang around, and especially not in the old stomping grounds.
You're pathetic, boyo. I can't believe this would even make you so flustered that you'd reply like this. Did you think it was funny? Did you think it would make you look cool? Just another fucking idiot who thinks he's god's gift to trolling. I seriously am sick to death of seeing posts like this. It's a waste of everybody's time. If you're so fucking angry go and tell your mommy, kid. We don't give a shit around these parts.
Honestly, if I looked as big of a loser as you do right now on here, I'd consider painful suicide.
>>57281854
Stay in school, dummy. Better yet, just go back to sleep.
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/mgw:@field%28DOCID+@lit%28gw360395%29%29
>>57282416
Muh Freemasons taking over da world! I saw it an unsourced YouTube video that 400k views!
>>57275542
>Was America really created by freemasons/occultists?
In the sense that many of the Founding Fathers were freemasons, yes. That's more because they were all in the same social circles than anything else though.
>>57282471
If you really think that's what I was saying, find a window and just jump out of it.
>>57281786
>>57281643
Well?
Why don't you tell us how the evil Freemasons did this to you?
We're all waiting.
>>57280698
>implying that freemasons aren't subversive fucks
They might be an old man's hangout today, but historically they've done some really sketchy shit like during the French Revolution or the Mexican Civil War
>>57283120
So why don't you join them?
Seems like a sweet deal
>>57275904
>german
>educating me on america's past
now i may be ignorant of germany and most of their past but, i know america's history too damn well.
Yes they iz controlling da world.
Fuckin racist honkies. I bet most of them support Donald Trump too
Nah, a lot if the original conspirators like Washington were masons, same as in my country and further down south because freemasonry in the new world loved the fedora ideals of freedum and equality of the elightment and tried to spread them further. That being said, masonic influencr was much, much more stronger and widespread in Britain and it stayed a relevant force for a lot longer.
>>57280751
Poorfag detected.
>>57275542
The artist designing the bill thought it was a cool symbol.
