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How can you argue for public health care while ours is better for those who deserve it?
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>>57100299
There's no denying it. USA #1 Everyone else is shit. We are the champions of the world.
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this

And once whoever wins the republican nomination gets in the white house we'll have competition from health providers and the price will be more efficient too
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>>57100299
>Better
but thats simply not true
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>5% better than Australia
Totally worth several million dollars.
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USA USA!
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>>57100777
'Quality of Care' here probably awards points for people who are too lazy to be awarded care

if you don't contribute, you deserve to die
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>>57100832
What does contribute mean fatso?
Have a job? In your shitty, broken economy and job market? Where your boss can fire you with no fucking reason if he has enough money?
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>>57101007
Hello Kansas!

>Where your boss can fire you with no fucking reason if he has enough money?

I have a right to work just as my employer has the right to discontinue working with me. I have the capacity to create something new and hire my own employees.

The economy depends per state, as well, and it's great here. Still as a whole, it's the best in the world.
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>deserve it
Fucking kike
>a useless and stupid jew born with money deserves to live more than a blue collar worker
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>>57100299
These are people who get the diagnostic and survived or people who get treatment and survived? If its treatment I bet that in absolute number Europe, Australia and Canada wins again.
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>>57101068
Blue collar workers still receive health benefits. The key is working, fampie
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>>57100299
Seriously lads, why is the U.K so shit?
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>>57100390
i want to be #1 too. what do i do to become american?
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Really this country is such a shithole.
They claim to be 'free' and always brag about how free they are when this shithole has something like 30% of the worlds prisoners and only 5% of world pop, excessive laws, excessive policing, more violent than any first world country and most third world ones too, commercialism up the ass, judaism, stupidity, obesity, etc.
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>>57101074
Why would I care about the less capable? It's Darwinism, I guess, but on a more relatable and easy to follow scale for us. But I'm serious, why would I care? It doesn't effect me and it never will.

If you cannot succeed and you are lazy, I honestly don't think you deserve the right to life.

Better humanity as a whole, or die.
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>>57100299
nah
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>>57101147
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>>57100299
Yeah fuck working class people who can't afford to pay hospital bills. Fucking parasites am I right?
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>>57101138
>darwinism
But no, you stupid delusional kike.
Survival of the fit is not at fucking all survival of those with more money.
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>>57101117
Right for the rights of every man.
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>>57101171
Working class? If you have a job, you have health benefits (provided via employer)

If you don't, you can receive government handouts (which I think should end)

If you aren't smart enough to request handouts, you should just kill yourself, even if indirectly
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>>57101138
Watch out with those edges, you might get cut.
>lazy
You probably think going to school and working an office job is hard work eh
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>>57101184
Invent something new, change the world, or perish.

But cheap health care isn't for the wealthy, even a customer service representative who only earns $40k per year still receives free health care.

You aren't too incompetent to answer the phone, are you?
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>>57101056
>Hello Kansas
are you retarded or just pretending?
Your boss needs to have a reason to fire you and should' be able to do so without atleast a 3 month notice, in the US they can practicaly drop you anytime anywhere
You have the capacity to create something new? But with what money? What if you fail? What if everybody tried to "create something new" what then? What makes you think you can compete with conglomerates and bic corporations in America without inventing something that's cutting edge? Are you saying anyone that's not a genius or inventor deserves to die because they don't "contribute"? Also the economy doesn't depend on the state it depends on the free market retard
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>>57101202
I don't know how it works in the US but I'm sure not all companies offer health benefits.
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>>57101138
Whoa, calm down. I really hope you can make our current economic system that supports your thinking works without the "less capable ones".

>land of the free, home of the brave
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>>57101222
Kek I'm dying over here, I've not had a conversation with someone so edgy and delusional since I used to browse /b/ years ago
>you aren't too incompetent to answer the phone
I have a real job, I wouldn't work a parasite useless to humanity job that even a woman could do.
Good night edgemaster.
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>>57101236
We LITERALLY live in the age of nobodies turning themselves into somebodies (for free)
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>>57101271
You don't need to be a customer service representative, it's only an example of how easy it is to obtain free health care benefits (if you need them)
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>>57101296
I said good night motherfucker stop replying.
Have fun at your office job and keep thinking you contribute to humanity somehow and that what you do serves a purpose.
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>>57101253
I have never, ever seen a company here that doesn't offer a 401k or health care benefits

If I received such offer, I'd laugh in their face and promptly turn them down.
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>>57101335
I LITERALLY GET PAID SIX DIGITS TO SHIT POST ON 4CHAN AND MY DOCTOR VISITS ARE COMPLETELY FREE
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>>57101158
I'd wait in line longer for a high quality restaurant rather than eating fast food, too.
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>>57101362
Well, it'd be a funny story if it were true, except that's not the case, not even close.

*ALL* modern medical advancements are made here in the US, simply because there's more funding to support it.
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>>57101357
Yes good kike the people who actually work and build and contribute to this shit society are the real parasites. Your reasoning is sound.
Fuck off m8 I'm tired and going to sleep.
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>>57101276
literaly luck
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>>57101383
But that's not indicative of the quality of medical care.
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>>57101398
Take a look at the iTunes store or the Google Play most downloaded applications -- it's not luck, it's a good idea that's easy to market.

If you downplay success you're doomed to an existence of mediocrity.
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>>57101418
It is if you live near the best hospitals in the world, in the most relevant and successful region in the world, where Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, Steam, SNAPDRAGON, and Microsoft all call home.
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>>57101383
Technology available =/= Quality provided

Not a hard concept to understand mate
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>>57101444
And Apple, how could I forget?
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>>57101362
>>57100857
A Nigger, a Chink and a Jew walk into a pub. They approach the hairiest,drunkest and most inbred looking man in the room. He is eating a bowl of shit matted foreskins and drinking directly from an unmarked bottle that smells like chlorine. The smell of his meal is over powering but the bartender is afraid to go near him because he is eating like a nigger in heat, and the immediate vicinity is covered in fecal shrapnel.

Trying his best to yell over the cacophony of anal-scrotal discourse, the jew asks the man if he can make the three of them positive. As the sunburned retard leans over to respond, his glass is knocked over and a mysterious viscous fluid spills all over the table onto the floor.

"It took me six weeks to suck that cum out of my Abbo Boyfriend" he yells in an inaudible accent

"we do apologize" says the chink "but we really need to to answer the question"

"Yes, of course" says the faggot "but first I need to tell everyone on /int/ that I'm Australian"
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>>57101426
>>57101444
>muh marketing
>muh corporations
>muh commercialization
>muh money
>muh judaism
>muh hyper-judeocapitalism
>muh ideas of value
>muh shit taste
>muh advertisments
>muh belief that aggressively selling shit garbage to the retarded obese masses is something to be praised
It makes me sick to my stomach, people like you are why this society should be burnt and started anew.
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>>57101426
But Notch's success
Angry Birds' success
Clash of Clans success
etc.
is literaly all luck
ideas that have been done before that haven't gotten attention
sure there are some apps that invent new things but those are rare and far inbetween the hordes of shit apps and copycats
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>>57101444
The only way you could pay me to live in California is if it was in the rich white communities.
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>>57101557
thanks for sharing, that's the only life I know that exists

I literally won the fucking lottery
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>>57101537
And its SHIT. I don't understand how that dirty kike rates something by the money it makes rather than by actual merit.
>>57101622
>>>/b/
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/i/srael
Stupid shit taste kike loving fatass.
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>>57100299
>deserve
>>57100832
>people who are too lazy

keeb being free!!
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>>57101602
If you believe so sure.
Take in mind you do have shit taste, are stupid, are jewish, your mother is probably loose, are fat, lazy, weak, post on 4chan, etc
You won the lottery of being a human parasite.
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>>57101525
Except the best places here are the ones that receive the most attendees. I mean, there isn't even a single Walmart "store" in New York City.
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>>57101698
Move to Scandinavia if you're lazy and crave a life of complete mediocrity
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>>57101709
Sorry, the best places (that are also local)
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>>57101728
>lazy
If I might ask, what type of work do you do?
I already said you probably think sitting in an office being a parasite and a drag on humanity is hard work but just to make sure.
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>>57101418
Our quality if fine. If you have (decent) insurance, you can get some of the best medical care in the world here.
What people actually criticize our system for is it's cost, and the fact that many Americans don't have insurance.
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>>57101698
>>57101728
Or move to Portland and obtain US citizenship like Linus Torvalds, a productive American and fucking based person all around.
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>How can you argue for public health care while ours is better for those who deserve it?
Because the amount you spend towards healthcare through your taxes is about the same as the amount we spend in total, except you get literally nothing, and we get universal healthcare.

If we spent twice as much, yes, I'd expect we'd have a better system too. But most Australians would agree that the public system we have is entirely adequate.

Every country has private healthcare, too. America just doesn't have public healthcare, even though they pay for it.
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>>57101760
If by 'many Americans', you mean '8%'

Sorry, but I don't care.
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>>57100777
>>57101068
>>57101137
>>57101147
>>57101171
Hello Plebbit!
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>>57101784
My overall taxes are lower than your taxes and the quality of health care services I receive given my position is substantially better.

Sorry man.

http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/topics/income/
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>>57101784
>adequate

There it fucking is again man, the word of complete mediocrity. Adequate isn't the answer we crave, it's superiority.
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>>57101810
>My overall taxes are lower than your taxes
Nope, we pay around the same amount on average.

Sorry man.
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Designated shitposting thread?
Designated shitposting thread.
Check these muthafucka
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>>57101843
Doubtful, no income taxes. If I make $80k, I keep $72k
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>>57101869
>no income taxes
Is that a special snowflake situation?

Because I said on average.
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>>57101841
>superiority
The only thing this country is superior at is being shit and jewish.
More jewish than Israel.
More money flows here sure but money can't buy not being shit
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>>57101841
You want superiority? You pay for superiority. In which sense, no country is better, because we all have private healthcare.
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>>57101905
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>>57100299
>cancer
That has almost nothing to do with actual medical systems and everything to do with the willingness of governments and medical organizations to run advertising campaigns. It's not like the treatments available are different once you're actually diagnosed.
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>>57101908
dude

just fuck off man

like nothing you have to say is based in reality

'the jews' lmao

I bet my comment is further demonstrating your paranoia and descent in mental illness
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>>57101968
>corporate income tax
...

You have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the developed world, in case you didn't know.
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>>57102002
not him, but compared to who? Any proof?
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>>57101869
That's not how taxes work.
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>>57102042
My W2 would disagree
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>>57102033
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>>57102033
>not him, but compared to who?
The developed world. Like I said.

>Any proof?
Yeah, a fucking metric shitload of proof.

Here's proof from the source of the image he posted:
http://taxfoundation.org/article/corporate-income-tax-rates-around-world-2014
>The United States has the third highest general top marginal corporate income tax rate in the world at 39.1 percent, exceeded only by Chad and the United Arab Emirates.
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>>57102060
No one pays that tax rate here yet the most important companies in the world all call the US home.

I wonder, why might this be?
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>>57101992
Oh I'll leave, because I dont argue with retards for long periods of time.
Ill leave you with some dubs.
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>>57102060

>What is tax code

Effective tax rate is rather different, bloke.
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>>57102084
because it's easy to avoid tax by headquartering your company in delaware?
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>>57102053
That's nice. I lived there and paid taxes too. You don't pay 8k tax on an 80k income.
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>>57102084
Actually, only two of the top ten largest corporations are based in America.

>UK and China both have three :^)))
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>>57102084
Because companies don't actually give a shit about the corporate tax rate despite the endless rhetoric about how it's stifling business.
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>>57100299
welgom to switzerland where only breast cancer is a thing
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>>57102122
see
>>57102144
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>I think people who aren't rich or in good unions should die
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>>57102144

And, on this day, nobody was surprised that irrelevant Australia was wrong yet again.

There's always tomorrow, Poms.
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>>57102157
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>>57102144
>market cap, which is not actually a measurement of the size or economic impact of a company
Chuckled.
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>>57102199
I agree with size. Except:

>economic impact

Debatable, because this also includes cultural relevancy
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>>57102199

>Chuckled
>While cradling his third grade degree
>And quietly went back to making love to his sheep

Leave basic econ to countries that have Universities capable of teaching it.
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>>57102180
still #1 :^)
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>>57102237
epic
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>>57102221
Sure, but that's very hard to measure. Something like enterprise value would be more relevant here.
>>57102237
Get better material. You're boring.
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>>57102180
I don't think oil deposits are capable of determining worth to the 21st century, Ahmed

Nice clock.
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>>57102239
I'd prefer Walmart be on top than Apple, but it's still of dubious bragging rights.
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>>57102294
There aren't any Walmart 'stores' where I live, in NYC, but I'd prefer an American enterprise to succeed over the alternatives.
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>>57102256

Boring?

And you've become autism, along with a wikipedia education memer.

Oh, Pom.
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>the Anglo kikes are arguing about their jew shit
Top kek lads
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>>57102294
I wonder what it's like, my mfw directory only consists of Americans, so what's it like to post a non-countrymen, not from Australia, but from Massachusetts?
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>>57102330
You're not even replying to the right person, idiot.
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>>57102333
OH SHIT SON.
CHECK THAT >333
TRIPLE 3
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>>57102330
charts are a real même anyways

no proof, just speculation fueled entirely by emotion
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>>57102337

>Call someone boring
>They call you autistic
>"You're not even replying to the right person, bully!"

The day the Poms went full on sissy.
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>>57102335
>he doesn't have a separate directory for rms
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>>57102383
You realize making yourself look increasingly stupid doesn't actually win the argument or whatever you think you're having, right? But keep right on acting like a stupid piece of shit. I'm sure I'll be convinced by your nonsense if you just act passive aggressive at the wrong person hard enough.
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>>57102394
rms is sacred, no matter gnu he affiliates with

thanks for sharing
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>>57102424

Do a wikipedia search about it. You'll show me.
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>>57102435
No probs.

[sp]although, to tell you the truth, some of my distro is non-free[/sp]
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>>57102451
Yeah, I haven't posted anything from wikipedia in this thread, but thanks for confirming again what an absolute moron you are.
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>>57102501

>Moron, idiot, bully!

Literally a cuck.
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>>57102516
>desperately falling back on cuck
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>>57102475
I only have nvidia drivers

else, who FUCKING cares?
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>>57102501
I hope you realize without IDs it isn't possible to prove who is who

(for the better)
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I just shaved off my face, snorted 1/3 an eight ball,I feel like having sex with a young lady, why doesn't she feel the same?
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>>57101383
>*ALL* modern medical advancements are made here in the US

Read a medical journal for 15 minutes, it's time you get enlightened.
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>>57102677
dyeabetus does not equate to the modern medical advancements
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>>57101444
It's hard to argue against people who call Americans corporate brainwashed cucks when the first thing you do to argue is talk about corporations.

Especially including good old jew Intel.
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>>57102595
Yeah, I got nvidia drivers, some codecs and shit. I use Chromium, but I've got the pepperflash plugin from Chrome installed too, which I think might be proprietary.

Plus, all my games on Steam.

I don't really care that much, but I think it's stupid sometimes when a company won't release something as free software when it can't really be capitalised on by another company. Firmware's a good example, as long as you got the patents/IP for the hardware, and the software is specific to that hardware, why the hell not?
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>>57102707
I work for a living that literally enables me to shit post on 4chan.

I'm sorry man.
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>>57100299
Insurance companies back then denied people based on pre-existing conditions. This is likely to skew the survival rates towards the US as people with pre-existing conditions like diabetes or heart disease are more likely to die from their cancer. In countries with universal healthcare, everyone gets cancer treatment whether they are poor, have pre-existing conditions, and do drugs, so this is likely to skew the survival rates down for those countries.
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>>57102729
Fuck Chromium, only Firefox. I agree with software patents except when it's Adobe, because I want that shit so fucking hard on my system.

I use Arch, better hope my pacman -Syyu doesn't break, which it never has
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>>57100777
>Source: Calculated by The Commonwealth Fund
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>>57101362
By that time, your skin cancer would have already killed you.
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you're probably better off dying than trying to pay for cancer treatment here
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>>57102766
EPIC

I love trash man, I watch his show while I'm high all the time
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none of this matters, we'll have the #2 healthcare system in 15 years second only to australia unless they change their foreign policy
european country's public programs will not be able to cope with a mass influx of thirdworlders

UK is losing pretty much every doctor because they can't afford to pay them shit and they're overworked
junior doctors have been on strike for months
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>>57102784
fuck off poor fag like legit I fucking hate you
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>>57102806
we have the best health care providers in the world, I feel sorry for you if you live in an area without health care advancements
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anglo-ZOG statistics
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>>57102763
Firefox and Chromium seem to be converging though, at least superficially. In ten years, it'll probably be called Gnuugle/ChromeFox.

I use Slackware, and I love it. It's pretty bloody hard to break Slackware.

>>57102766
The Commonwealth Fund is American, if you were implying otherwise.
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typical american trying to show off superiority :
money money money big corporation money money lolpoorfag money BIG CARS money money tv's money

typical european/enlightened american reading his rabble:
what a fucking idiot

but maybe op will outgrow this stage in his life, til then he's probably only 23 and knows fuck all.
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>>57102834
I'm not denying that we do, most of these assess healthcare to the overall population aka including niggers

I actually get poor people healthcare because I have no income, it's pretty good.
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>>57102851
My package upgrade system hasn't broken in 5 years. Arch is based.

Firefox seems to be adatping stupid policies, at least they have Rust going for them.
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>be american
>get cancer
>get cured perfectly
>become homeless
THINGS YOU CAN'T MAKE UP: THIS SHIT
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>>57102872
arch is by far the best distro for a desktop now, every other distro has gone full retard

I don't want years old packages on a non-production system
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>>57102900

Shhh Mexico. Is ok bb
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>>57102900
"No"
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>>57102845
>portugal still the shittiest place in the world
seems accurate
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>>57102909
I agree

I used to feel debian packages were what I needed until I met the ppa systen
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>>57100299
>?? i dont understand us av best Health care ???
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>>57100299

This is from 2008, have anything mere relevant?
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Americans are retarded
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>>57104032
This
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