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>>56978850
No. Religion is a cancer of humanity
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>>56978850
>shit countries consider religion important
I'm shocked
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>>56978850
Yes.
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Id say it's important, it gives us a reason to take the none believer's, or the wrong believer's shit.


Like is a fun ride, so enjoy it, and grab all you can :^)
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I don't think so, in any and all capacity it should remain a last resort for old people afraid of death and uninteresting for anyone else.
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>>56979158
thats pretty much what my father did and what I'll probably do, sin, fuck around do w/e I want and repent when older.
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>>56978850
>Nations made of pure shit and basically all Mooslim countries are high on the list
I guess when you have nothing left to hold on to, God is there.
>tfw nothing left to hold on to, not even God
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>>56978850
>not even on the map

It's something imported brown people do.
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>>56978940
>>56978958
>>56979273
>53%
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The USA are ranked with the shitholes.
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>>56978850
Based East Asia
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>>56978850
The means that the religion preaches morality to a fool.
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>Israel
>Mexico
>Not religious
Something is off here.
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>>56978918
t. Fruit of stalin
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>>56979424
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>>56979326
But the Christian culture is still alive. Everyone just skips the believe and faith part.
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Yes, the rich ones shun religion because they feel they dont need it, they shun god for what god gave them
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>>56978850
>believing in clearly made up bullshit
>in the current year
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>>56978918
first post best post
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>>56978850
Fervorous Catholic here.
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>>56978940
>super-nice countries like china
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>>56979481
Most of the south is even member of the Catholic church.
Alaaf!
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>>56979875
Even the Northern heretics can't stop celebrating saints. Fucking weird country.
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>USA is is as religious as Turkey

Yankroaches haha
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>>56979524
the rich ones have sold their soul to the devil for their little heaven on earth, and the devil rewards them with low birth rate. >:^)
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>>56978850
Religious countries surely are bringing the world closer to a better future.
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>>56978850
Nah not really
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>>56980032
Probably because we understood that there's more in life than having too many children. Besides, world is over-populated and having too many children means said country is never going to rise from poverty.
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>>56978918
This
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Can't we just move the Vatican to the U.S. since we clearly care more about the salvation of our immortal souls?
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Where do they ask this question in Poland? In biggest cities? Poles in villages and small towns care a lot about religion
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>>56979440
It's not perfect.
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>>56980139
I lol'd

Sure. But leave the art here on this continent. . Las Vegas would be a nice place for New Vatican
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>>56980139
god no, europeans can keep their nigger feet licker
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>>56979710
>Mean HDI for majority religious
0.630
>Mean HDI for majority irreligious
0.834

p<0.0001 at 95% CI

Being religious makes you retarded :^')
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>>56980111
look at this foolish little heathen

he thinks there is no price to pay for every choice he makes in life, like a careless child.

https://coub.com/view/4g8vu5q6
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>Finally have something to thank God for
>"Bye bitch!"

Is there any doubt that humans are the worst?
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>>56980308
God should be thanked only for things you dont receive, like an illness or misfortune
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>>56979481
>>56979875
>>56979976
This is why the pope will never visit us. 2 weird 4 religion.
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>>56978850
No.
Religion should have absolutely no role in government and should have no role in the decision making of officials. You are free to practice whatever religion you like but no you will not impose that on the rest of the country
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>>56978918
this desu senpai
>religious friend
>you must love thy neighbours
>supports the death penalty
>supports forced sterilization
u wot
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>>56979440
Nobody gives a shit about religion anymore, nobody goes to church it's seeing like a boring burden (which it is)
Nodoby reads the Bible, girls Fuck at the age of 14 and play sexual games ..

Religion doesn't work anymore, with all the information now people is gonna be less and less religious every year.
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>>56980434
This is why Islam is gonna win. Islam is created specifically to resist all attempts to undermine it
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>>56978850
>shit tier countries value religion high
>god-tier first world countries don't give a fuck

You literally CAN NOT MAKE THIS UP.
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>France being one of the most *tip fedora* countries

Accurate...I'm so ashamed
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>>56980617
I liked it more when Canadians weren't trying to shitpost on every opportunity
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>>56980617
No. Because religion created a culture. You can't destroy a culture that easy. Not even with bombs.
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>gets bombed in the name of a religion
>thinks religion is not important

solid logic, my tips
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>>56978850
Fuck Brazil and it's dumb religious people.
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>>56978850
Yes it is unless you want to become sweden tier.
Also all of this had to come from somewhere as something can't be created from nothing.
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>>56980111
>Besides, world is over-populated and having too many children means said country is never going to rise from poverty.
>le Europe is overpopulated mene

Go away bait master.
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>>56980818
So sure secularists didnt bomb you?

After all this is the perfect time to set off bombs, since the sole entity of suspicion will be muslims.
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>>56980890
t. Achmed Al Hollandi

I seriously never heard a Dutchman saying this. Have a (You)
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>>56980890
>Also all of this had to come from somewhere as something can't be created from nothing.
then what created your god?
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>>56980890
>le moderation doesn't exist meme
also nice bait my friend :^')
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>>56980380
It said "is religion important" not "should laws be derived from religion", retard.

Separation of Church and State doesn't mean it's one or the other. Religion is, like it or not, a social pillar.

>>56980617
When will the Scientologists save us from Islam?
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>>56978850
Religion is important because humanity has a need to be satisfied metaphysically and religion does the best job at that (for now at least)
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Ethiopia is orthodox christian p h a m s
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>>56980695
>China
>god-tier
Go away, Xing.
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It is important for me.
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>>56980973
/pol/ memes
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>>56980973
>al hollandi

I'm not an arab but you're close :D
But still most people say that tey believe in 'something'.
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>>56981069
sure. like your sheeps.
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>>56981125
Dude, I like my religion. Why this offend you senor?
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>>56981188
>replying to heretics
Don't
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>>56981188
The bombs kinda hurt people.
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>>56980979
God is eternal ofcourse :D

>>56980983
As far as I know there are three kinds of people which are fedoras,radicals and 'normal' believers which in europe are almost non existant as far as I know.
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>>56978850
ayy
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>>56981245
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>>56981273
>God is eternal ofcourse :D
but you just said something can't be created from nothing
then how was your god created
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>>56981188
because we are the sword of jesucrisht.
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>>56981245
Yours don't?
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>>56981291
>3% fedora
That's not so bad, let's hope we can reverse the cancer that is liberalism and become a Conservative Nationalist society again.
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Modern science was established by Christian thinkers. Almost all the great names in science are Christians. Periods of high religiosity and irreligiosity exchanged throughout most of history, it's silly to get worked up over it now. It's even one of the main themes of the Old Testament. Half of it is just Israel giving up on God when everything is going well and being pious when someone is invading them.
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>>56981330
>because we are the sword of jesucrisht.
In average Muslims love Jesus more than you do guys.

You love only a hypocritical love.
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>>56980928
either people bomb each other for their religion, or people use religion to cover up their tracks. either way, religion is too important a factor to not care about. saying religion is unimportant is stupid.
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>>56981317
Well that's a bit of a paradox but if something didn't create all the matter you see around you where did it then come from ?
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>>56981368
I don't even have a religion, and never had. What bombs?
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>>56981422
most of the time it's about money,profit and power, religion is just a bullshit excuse for it hidden agendas.

Humanity is corrupt to an incompetent broken state and will use any excuse for their personal gains, be it gods, prophets,mysticism... but one thing is for sure, god will not allow to be manipulated in their names for long.
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>>56978850
i love how fedora mexicans blame their shity society and economics on religion.
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>>56981317
God wasn't created and being a theist implies that you don't believe in there being nothing before the universe was made.

>>56981415
>heretics that deny Christ's divinity (and by doing that, reject God) because a bloodthirsty warlord said so love him
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No. Every problem in the world is caused by religion. Nearly every conflict, disagreement, or hatred is due to religion. Hence why religious countries are such shitholes. Religion does more harm than good. The US included, the reason we're so retarded is purely because of religion
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>>56978850
religion is closely tied to the culture of a place so yes it is important but never should be what dictates your life/political beliefs
too much religion=idiocracy
too less religion=degeneracy, refugees welcome
if you can't hold on to your culture, then you are bound to be invaded by opposing cultures
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Not for me
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>>56981831
>Every problem in the world is caused by religion. Nearly every conflict, disagreement, or hatred is due to religion.
Hard to believe that there's people out there who can make a claim this stupid with a straight face. Don't believe everything you read on the internet, friendo.
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>>56978918
THIS
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most of the progress that happenend in europe durin the 20 century it was while the population was still mostly christian.
>>56981831
and the only reason why your greasy country became so rich, it was because of religion. the idea of progress and getting rich has everything to do with calvinism, leanr your own history
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>>56981831
Take a good look around you fedora simpleton, this is a very hostile world, you may even say nature itself is wicked and evil....and with nature so is man kind's nature.

Taking away religion will not stop wars, disagreements or create long lasting peace.

The problem of the source is right down to the source of life on this planet

Youre swimming in an ocean of love in an age of love. And it doesnt get any better than this
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>>56981596
>I don't even have a religion, and never had. What bombs?
You still taking drooping bombs on ME as a national sport.

>>56981703
>>heretics that deny Christ's divinity (and by doing that, reject God) because a bloodthirsty warlord said so love him
You know that Romans did a vote for is Christ's divinity at year 300, and banned, killed, and tortured anyone who said otherwise right?

His divinity was always arguable on Christianity, in fact Jesus' brother James said Jesus is not a god. But some guy called Paul who never saw or knew Jesus said he was god.

Romans were so used on a man-God, a concept that they are familiar with "Yeah right that guy is a god, I know Cesar is a god too". And Paul took this advantage to turn Romans to Christianity.
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>>56981831
You are being disrespectful to your founding fathers
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>>56981869
I agree with this so much. It's art, politics and religion that whats makes a culture.
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>>56978850
%56 is shameful
Didn't know we were full of fedora tippers
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>>56982115
>You still taking drooping bombs on ME as a national sport.
My English is to shitty to understand this.
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>>56979329
>56%

soon we'll have a retarded right wing populist dictator of our own, brother
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>>56981831
>Every problem in the world is caused by religion
*tips*
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>>56978850
>Israel at 34%
Come on you guys literally have the star of David on your fucking flag.
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>>56982320

fucking commies should be hung
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>>56982362
you guys have 50 stars of david on urs tho tbf
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>>56982364
ask your mama about how hung i am, luigi
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>>56978850
>Go to church today (catholic)
>Just old white people and young black people
>literally 90% of young people are black africans
>bringing african drum beats to church
>Celebrating, singing
>sing the rosary in Haitian Creole
>New priest is a black african
>Old white priest can barely speak, looks like he's dying up there
>Everybody CLAPS when he's done speaking
>Catholic mass has gone from a pensive meditation to just about any other African gathering
>A bunch of African women who look barely 20 already have kids


It was seriously depressing.. my culture is getting erased because white canadians think that dogs and cats are suitable replacement for human children. It's our fault..
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>>56982426
t. italy with the flu
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>>56981900
Remove Islam. Look how much better things have just become. Remove Christianity. Look at how much better off the world is. The world lives under the tyranny of these religions. In the US we have about 37-40% of people who actually believe evolution happened. Those people think the world is a few thousand years old. We also have people who still want to outlaw two adults getting married because their book says it's bad. There are people who will avoid vaccines and going to a hospital simply because they can just pray. Religion may have played a key role in the establishment of this nation but it's no longer needed. It clearly does not work as a set of morals because even the most violent of criminals likely grew up in churches. Can you imagine a world where you don't have to worry about being blown up by a suicide bomber because you drew a cartoon of his favorite pedophile? Religion is no longer needed.
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>>56982320
ErdoÄŸan is not right wing though
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>>56982426
it's a neat symbol what can i say
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>>56982426
>A 5 point star is a star of David
I think you need to go easy on the alcohol, Patrick.
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>>56982115
>much conspiracy theories
Fuck off with your heresies.

>Romans did a vote for is Christ's divinity at year 300
It was later, it was done properly and it was merely an official confirmation in order to stop heretics from claiming nonsense.
>His divinity was always arguable
Only to heretics.
>Romans were so used on a man-God
The Roman concept of divine humans is significantly different from the concept of Jesus as God. Also, the first Christians were Jews.
>Paul who never saw or knew Jesus
He did, actually, it's why he became a Christian.
>And Paul took this advantage to turn Romans to Christianity.
Nice meme.
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>>56982362
Israel is a Satanist country, what you're referring to as the "star of David" is in fact a representation of the Devil's maleficent takeover of this world.
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>>56982518
>what is the joke for 500, cody?
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>>56982518
depends on how you geometry
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>>56982578
If that's a joke then you're a meme
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>>56982610
memester u mean
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>>56982578
americans posters are fat neckbears that got bullied their whole life, thats why they can't take any jokes
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>>56982488
Our issues are social issues and education issues, not religious ones. Besides you're forcing your world view onto people who don't want it right? Isn't that the same thing?
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>>56979262
I like you senpai,
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>>56982540
>Not knowing his history.
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>>56982488
>Remove Christianity.
It would be a shitty world.
>evolution, vaccines, etc.
People being stupid is not Christianity's fault. And these kind of trends are especially common for USA and have spread into Europe from USA.
>want to outlaw two adults getting married
Perfectly reasonable.

Nothing you said goes in favour of the massively ridiculous claim that religion caused all the world's problems.
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>>56982656
fluoride and other fun chemicals zionist put in their drinking water makes their brains go wonky.
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>>56982751
>coming from a Muslim
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>>56982765
Poland more like pooland lol
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>>56982756
>want to outlaw two adults getting married
>Perfectly reasonable.

You lost me there. Are your feels hurt or did your religion told you that?
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It's nice to have a choice of beliefs and there is tons of culture connected to religion,but I don't think that religion has any use today.
It's like hugging a toy animal in sleep when you were young, it isn't going to do anything but will make you feel better.
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>>56982706
It is wrong and I try not to do it but when you have people fighting to put creationism in textbooks and they already are putting disclaimers on science textbooks, and trying to outlaw gay marriage or keep those parents from adopting, or denying climate change purely because their political ideology says to, and they make up a massive voting population, then you see where the frustration comes from. None of those things should be issues. The difference is there is actual significant evidence for science and it is objective, while the other is just a religion. And no it's not an education problem. People who grew up christian are less likely to believe in evolution than people who did not.
>>56982756
Actually, stupidity goes very well in hand with religion here. The south is the stupidest part of the country and it's also the most violent and most religious. The best states are up north and have very low religiosity. This alone is a model that proves my point. And no it's not reasonable at all. No one should have a say on who can love who
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>>56983053
>>56982488
>>56981831
Never has this been more relevant
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>>56982967
He's afraid of homosexuals and homosexuality like a child fears monsters under the bed so he needs a big strong religion to protect him.
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>>56978850
It is a coping tool for poverty and not important past that. In 300 years only black people will still be praying sincerely
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>>56982503
what do you consider "right-wing" then?
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>>56983053
>south is the stupidest part and most religious
Lots of possible explanations for that. It doesn't really prove anything.
>No one should have a say on who can love who
Love and sex aren't the same thing. Also, the state definitely has a say on who can get a state-recognised marriage and who can't. Also, God has a say on everything.

>>56983186
Yes, homosexuals are very scary.
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>>56983053
>This alone is a model that proves my point
>One example means I'm right
Pol Pot was an atheist and a bad person, therefore atheism is evil and has no place in modern society, and this is all I need to prove my point.
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>>56983053
Then why isn't China a superpower?

Why are even the southern parts of the US still much better places than other parts of the world, religious or not?

I'm no big fan of religion but your argument has big holes in it.

>>56983158
fuck off
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>>56978850
>lowest of westerns
>feelsgood.jpg
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>>56983186
Marriage itself is a religious construct, I have no idea why gays would want anything to do with it.
Civil unions are the way to go.
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>>56982457
Haitian's are not a bad replacement for White Canadians.
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>>56983274
That's only one example but I never said it was the only one. where would you rather live then, Vermont or Democratic Republic of Congo? It's almost 100% christian there. Think real hard about it.
>>56983273
If you're worried about homosex then you might be homosex yourself. There's no reason to think about it so much and be bothered by it
>>56983292
Asians are generally non-religious people and could just be an outlier. That does transfer well here though. Asians as a population make more money than anyone else, have the best life expectancy of any group, are the most educated, have the lowest rates of crime etc etc ect.
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>>56983339
>proud of being a heretic anime poster
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>>56982457
Montréal?
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>>56983567
Where would you rather live, Vermont or China? Almost 100% atheist there.
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>>56983567
>don't like homo? u homo
Perfectly logical conclusion.

>If you're worried about homosex
>think about it so much
I didn't say anything that would imply that I spend a significant amount of time thinking about homosexuality.
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>>56983186
That is whats bothers me. You don't mess up religion and politics and feelings. The faggits are shouting that they want the same tax rates as 'normal' people? They are right. Because of the law.
That's how it works in a democratic society. Laws are for everyone. There is no religion or ancient painting involved.

Somehow is this a controversial idea. But the USA an many other countries are build on this idea.

going to get a beer. fuck you all.
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>>56983506
Except they weren't even Haitian except a couple of them. The Creole Rosary was just another cultural insertion for the sake of it... 100% needless and cuck behaviour.
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>>56983193
didn't know Belgium was so religious.
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Not Quebec. I can't say because it would be easy to find out who I am. Smallish french community though.
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>>56983719
People who are homophobic tend to have repressed homosexual urges m8. I'm not lying to you.
>>56983692
China could be great if they weren't filthy commies.
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>>56980221

Good idea - could have a Catholic themed Casino and Resort.

Maybe a "holy water" slide where you slide at 20MPH past the sitting Pope in his throne room or whatever Pope's do, we'll probably jazz it up.
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>>56983874
meant for
>>56983645
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>>56983889
>People who are homophobic tend to have repressed homosexual urges m8. I'm not lying to you.
No they don't, you're an idiot if you actually think that and it completely throws your credibility out the window.
If you want to act intelligent then act intelligent, don't act like a meme-spouting jackass who's only retort is "you hate gays? Must be gay yourself lol xD".
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>>56983889
I doubt that, but even if it were true, I'm not homophobic in a hateful sense of the word. If I had homosexual urges, I wouldn't pretend that I don't, I'd just try to live a celibate life.
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>>56982488
Your entire argument is defunct due to one glaring thing you're ignoring, religious men built western society as we know it. Civilizations thrived and empires were built and religion was no hindrance on it. We create out own conflicts with our own interests and interpretations. It is not religion that holds anything back. All you have to do is understand a little bit of history to see how much horseshit this argument is. I'm amazed you're making it. Yes you are correct that we do have some issues, but it's not like we're some hellhole country. Far from it.
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>>56984399
Beautiful.
I learned something today about other cultures and the mindset on /int/

Anyone seen the Australians?
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>>56978850
Basically religions are for weak ass people who have a fear of being alone. And there are the two types of people who need it, animistic people living in nature and sissy weak minded faggots living in a modernized nation.

The former aint bad because human beings without getting civilized and scientific ways are actually fucking weak in nature. They need shit to chill themselves.
The nature is actually unexpectable and scares/threatens/tries to destroy people and their lives any time as unavoidable risk. They have to do with it to live/enjoy together with the fear.

But the latter is utter fucking garbage. They just have a fear of being alone for some whiny reason like a crying baby. And it has a tendency to depend on pre-modenish retarded hivemind and sissy faggotry sectism. No one and no nature generally scares/threatens/destroys them except mostly expectable shit of the same human beings and some known diseases, yet they just get anxious about everything too much because of their weak minds.
Due to it they always try to all get together and involved with others. They are just such troublemakers and weak minded faggots who cant stand against anything alone.
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DON'T SPEAK TO ME OR MY WIFE'S SON AGAIN!
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>>56985975
You left out art. From the renaissance till liberal arts that they teach in America end Europe.

Did i go to far?
I think i did.
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>>56978850
>Mexico much less religious than Brazil
WTF I wouldn't expect that
>Venezuela 42%
and that's why we need to let Dilma on power
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>>56981291
Turks should stop pretending they have a chance of being in the EU. The only reason they aren't told to fuck off is because the southern europe would drown in the muslim faucet they'd turn on.
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>>56987732
Give me a one good reason for us to join EU.
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>>56978918
t. Garl Marx and his russian slaves
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>>56987732
You think today's Turkey want to join EU? Erdogan want to join EU? Really?

JDP only pretending that they want to, but aren't working toward it at all. Just to look a bit Kemalists too.

US never had a deep government so you won't understand the situation. And the deep government on Turkey now is the Kemalists.
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It's important in the sense that it's fucking up the entire world. Simply because nobody can basically agree upon what god looks like as if it fucking matters anyways.
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>>56989610
So you can pay extra taxes into EU coffers while EU reforms your country's internal politics to destabilize you from the inside out?

is deal goyim? ja?
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