Lets try again !
Lets unite finno-ugric brethren !
Can into: Finland, Estonia, Hungary + Russia
Cant into: Nonfinno-ugrics
>>56779104
Are they really dead or absorbed by Russians ?
Finally
>>56779104
moikka
>>56779148
whats the difference
>>56779104
Hello
>Lüüdit (Luddites)
CAN'T INVENT THESE NON-FALLACIES
sami here
>>56779300
ole hyvä ja poistu
>>56779148
They exist to some extent. Met a Vepsian family last year. They looked like Estonians, but spoke Russian. It was weird.
>>56779290
Päivää !(Good day) Welcome to family reunion !
>>56779148
They are dying because of Russia.
>>56779353
I'm sami also
>>56779396
Thank you.
I don't know what to post.
>>56779373
How are u Estbro ? I have heard that Estonia is not getting any shitskins ? It sounds like i need to move to Estonia if Finnish politicians keep licking EUs ass and sink our country to ocean of mudslimes.
>>56779438
In case of severe confusion, just post tits.
>>56779475
I don't know what the "problem" is lol. No one wants to come and the ones that do want to come are not "processed" according to the criteria we have set. So, right now the quota of official refugees is actually negative.
>>56779438
Päivää = Good day.
Hauska tavata = Nice to meet you.
Postaa mitä tahansa = Post anything.
Those in hungarian ?
>>56779475
JUST
>>56779538
Päevast
Meeldiv kohtuda
Postita mida tahad
>>56779538
Jó napot.
Örülök a találkozásnak.
Posztolj bármit.
>Finland (Finnish: Suomi; Swedish: Finland), officially the Republic of Finland, was a sovereign state in Europe. Existing as an independent country from its independence from Soviet Russia in 1917 to 2039, it was wholly integrated with Estonia following a military coup d'état orchestrated by the Estonian government in coordination with various far-right organizations within Finland itself. Riho Terras, former Commander-in-Chief of the Estonian armed forces, was appointed as interim governor of the renamed County of Lesser Estonia.
>>56779577
Me tuleme sind oma kulturiga kyllastama ?
Me tulemme sinun omaa kulttuuria rikastamaan in Finnish.
Yeah right, those niggers should go kyllastama their own shit culture.
>>56779616
That's not fucking Finnish/Mongol at all, m8
hello fellow finno-ugric brothers
>>56779616
Sounds like orc speaking in lord of the rings :D
>>56779679
The fuck ?
>>56779694
Rikastama/rikastamaan it's basically the same and could be used instead. Küllastama however I think is better because the meaning is not just "enrich", but enrich to the point of saturation (küllasus, quite literally 'the point of enough-dom')
>>56779721
Eh, Hungarian probably has a lot more actual Mongol loan words.
>>56779739
Explain ur self !
>>56779721
Because Hungarian is Ugric.
>>56779790
Kyllästyä in Finnish has the same meaning but it's used pretty much in just the nuclear enrichment context.
>tfw you're never good enough
>not even for your family
I'M ENDING IT TODAY
I'm glad someone made this thread. We really need a general for finno-ugrics. We just gotta hope someone from the lesser groups of language would show up
>>56779930
It's not used in chemistry and physics (excluding nuclear)?
>>56779790
Kyllästää, küllasus. I got the picture. Hows spring in Estonia ? we have still half a meter snow in Northern-Finland.
>>56779952
Well you do have the best cuisine imho.
>>56780040
Ugh, it was supposed to get warm already, but it still snows and melts and snows and..., at least in Tallinn. Shitty period of the year really.
>>56779952
Stop whining ! Ure the best Hungary we can have in our family.
>>56779990
Im the same guy who has made many /nordic/ but im starting to wake up that we sould be more friends with our own people. Are u the one who posts those "Orja Aryan" pics ?
>>56779679
Where did you find that?
>>56779899
Ogre?
>>56779952
The Lithuanian solution is no solution at all unless you're terminally ill.
>>56780127
I've been many times in Tallinna (Viinaralli) but i havent been anywhere else. What kind of cities are the other cities in Estonia. Is there any cities than Tallinna and Tartto ?
>>56779846
According to a quick search I just did there are indeeda few words that have a common root in Hungarian and Mongolian, but those are either Turkic words that got passed into both languages, or mongol origin words which got passed into Hungarian through Turkic influence.
They also speculate that the remaining Avars might have passed on some words of Mongol origin.
>>56779721
they speak ugric language, we speak finnic, thats the difference
>>56780266
I'm just gonna list the cities/towns I like the most:
Haapsalu/Viljandi/Pärnu/Kuressaare
Wont go into the smaller places for winter refuge cross country skiing and the summer chill and grill destinations because no one is gonna end up there anyway lol.
>>56780266
Pärnu, Kuressaare, Haapsalu, Viljandi and Rakvere are nice cozy towns
Some Vepsian(how inessiv works)
Hän ei ole meca-s. He's not in forest
Minä olen perti-š. I'm at home
Kompjuter om sure-s honuse-s. The computer is in a large room
I'm reading about Hungarian paganism.
Táltos(Shaman) seems like it could be connected to Tietäjä(Wizard/Shaman, literal meaning 'knower').
>>56780612
lel its literally mix of Estonian and Finnish
in Estonian these senteces would be
Ta ei ole metsas.
Mina olen kodus.
Arvuti/kompuuter on suures toas.
Hello yes France is finno-ugric
>>56780790
i dont see you on this pic, so you cant be finno-ugric
>>56780665
Teadmamees (the knowing man).
>>56780849
shouldnt it be teadjamees or just teadja
>>56780612
In Finnish:
Hän ei ole metässä.
Minä olen pirtissä.
Tietokone on suuressa huoneessa.
Pirtti = Big room like a living room in loghouse.
>>56780846
Keked hard :DD
>>56780612
The special negative form of 'olda'(to be) for plural(the literary language) - olgoi :
Mö em olgoi joudobused. We're not lazy
Hö ei olgoi külähižed. They are not villagers
>>56780612
How do u know vepsian ? Are u one ?
>>56780972
How do you even know this or care about it?
>>56780898
No, the older language refers to the shamans as 'teadmamees', or even -mies, -miis. What you wrote would be more correct usage of modern language though.
>>56779396
We're not dying.
And, as i remember, finns (you are, personally) loves to fap on baltic-type union with estonians and others.
So.. Does it matter for (You) what's going on here with non-baltic ones?
>>56779679
>Lesser Estonia
Oh well, still better than being a part of Sweden or Russia
>>56780665
>>56780849
'Knower' would be 'tudós' is Hungarian, or for this particular kind of person 'tudós ember' as of 'knowing man' would be a better fit, as the latter has a bit archaic feeling to it.
And afaik the táltos is not imported from another pagan religion, so it easily could be related to the Finnish shaman from way before.
>>56780972
That is a REAL MEME LANGUAGE ! :D Its like huge dialect or acent !
In Finnish i could say:
Me emme ole joutavia
He ei ole kyläläsiä
How much has Swedish influenced Finnish, does Finnish has many loanwords from Swedish.
Estonian has been majorly influenced by German, here is a little example of the German loanwords we have
apelsin - orange - Apfelsine (this is probably a borrowing in German as well)
arst - doctor - Arzt
härra - mister, sir - Herr
jaa - yes - ja
kahvel - fork - Gabel (in many loanwords Estonian k- corresponds to German g-, Estonian -hv- corresponds to (Low)German -f- and Standard German -b-)
kartul - potato - Kartoffel
kast - box, case - Kasten
kirik - church - Kirche, Low German Kark, Swedish kyrka
kirs - cherry - Kirsche
kleit - skirt - Kleid
korsten - chimney - Schornstein (even closer to Swedish skorsten)
köök - kitchen - Küche (Low German köken, Swedish kök)
korv - basket - Korb
loss - palace - Schloss (Estonian tends to simplify consonant clusters word-initially)
nojaa - well, yes, okay - nun ja (similar to Latvian "nu jā")
pall - ball - Ball (this might be related to English as well, of course)
pank - bench - Bank (Estonian p- often corresponds to German b-)
pilt - picture - Bild
proovima - to try - probieren (-ma is one of the two infinitive endings in Estonian)
proua - lady, Mrs. - Frau (Estonian didn't have the letter f originally and replaced it with p in many cases)
püksid - trousers - Low German Büchsen, Swedish byxor (-d is the nominative plural in Estonian)
tass - cup -Tasse
tellima - to order - bestellen (this doesn't look similar but very often be- disappeared in Low German, st- became t- in Estonian and -ma again is the infinitive)
torn - tower - Low German Torn
tund - hour -Stunde
tuba - room - Stube
tükk - piece - Stück
vein - wine - Wein
üür - rent (for an apartment) - Low German Hüer
>>56781061
Ofcourse it matters, its hard to keep in touch with Finno-ugrics in russia in 4chan because they dont use so much 4chan.
Are you angry to us or something ?
>>56780972
Kek, I just derived a new Estonian phrase out of 'joudobused'. It's 'laisk'/'laiskus' here btw.
Jõutõbised. Literally: with sickness of power, inable or unwilling to use power.
>>56781057
Eestlased arutavad eesti keelt omavahel. Inglise keeles. Hästi.
>mfw Estonians say "pole" instead of "ei ole"
Eesti is cute, CUTE!
>>56781307
>jõutõbised
mida vittu, mulle meenutas ka "joudobused" ka mingit eesti keelset sõna, aga ma ei suutnud ära tõlgendada seda :DDD
10/10 tubli oled
>>56781189
Finnish shares about 1/3 of those. And sure there's a lot of Swedish words in Finnish.
>>56781189
You can add another one to your list: kraav (the ditch). Originally from proto-germanic or something...
Found out about this when I was investigating where this weird tradition of burying fish comes from. As in, in Estonia we have 'kraavilõhe' and in Sweden they have 'gravlox'.
>>56781370
Et ka teised meie väga eriliselt lumehelbekeste keelest ja arutelust osa saaks võtta ;)
>>56781370
See on selle jaoks, et vööramaalased saaksid ka aimu eesti keelest :)
>>56781390
"pole" is a slang way of saying "ei ole", also nobody uses written language to talk, its too official
>>56781289
>Are you angry to us or something
>finns
>autism
>anger
First time yes but it was downed really fast. I'm actually ok.
No one bothers you to keep some traditions, cultural aspects and other stuff.
United or not - it doesn't matter. It doesn't makes you/us/etc better or worse.
>>56781447
>tfw no big titted Estonian gf to go sauna with
>>56781189
Heres those in Finnish
apelsin - orange - Apfelsine- Appelsiini
arst - doctor - Arzt - Lääkäri/Tohtori
härra - mister, sir - Herr - Herra
jaa - yes - ja - Kyllä
kahvel - fork - Gabel - Haarukka
kartul - potato - Kartoffel - Peruna
kast - box, case - Kasten - Laatikko,Lokero
kirik - church - Kirche, Low German Kark, Swedish kyrka - Kirkko
kirs - cherry - Kirsche - Kirsikka
kleit - skirt - Kleid - Mekko
korsten - chimney - Schornstein - Savupiippu
köök - kitchen - Küche - Keittiö ( Cook in finnish kokata )
korv - basket - Korb - Kori
loss - palace - Schloss - Palatsi
nojaa - well, yes, okay - nun ja - No jaa
pall - ball - Ball - Pallo
pank - bench - Bank - Penkki
pilt - picture - Bild - Kuva
proovima - to try - probieren - Yrittää
proua - lady, Mrs. - Frau - Rouva
püksid - trousers - Low German Büchsen, - Pöksyt -Swedish byxor
tass - cup -Tasse - Kuppi
tellima - to order - bestellen - Tilata
torn - tower - Low German Torn - Torni
tund - hour -Stunde - Kello
tuba - room - Stube - Huone (Tupa is cabin in Finnish)
tükk - piece - Stück - Pala
vein - wine - Wein - Viini
üür - rent - Low German Hüer - Vuokra
>>56781508
you have been so majorly cucked that you dont even speak the language of your forefathers and you dont respect their traditions, ofc im gonna think that we are better than you, in every way
>>56781508
I don't get what your problem is. It's been 3000 years since Baltic Finnic and Volga Finnic people stopped being in contact.
We feel closer to Estonians and Veps because we never stopped contact with them.
>>56781643
>i will think
Why not? I'm not gonna organize (Your) life, m8.
Does Eesti have kantele?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_cwVUor0ac
>>56781289
I doesent make anyone of us better or worse. I just wish we could be united. Good to have you in !
<3
>>56781718
>kantele
kannel in estonian
yes we have it and playing it is part of our culture
>>56781692
No problem. I was want to tell you that is self-proudness and narcissism like >>56781643 does not help to establish connections between baltic, permian, volga and altaic ones.
Until then, every tries are useless.
>>56779213
Shouldn't we let languages just die?
Only Europeans get sentimental about languages that are dying.
>>56781775
forgot to add the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80V78SnnC2I
>>56781718
Yep, it's our national/traditional instrument of ebin beats. The kantele/kannel is big in the lands of honorable Balts also.
Our national epic begins with the sentence: "Lend me a kannel Vanemuine, a beatiful song/tale lingers in my mind."
>>56781692
>>56781643
>>56781702
Dont argue ! Were Brothers and we shouldnt blame each others for anything ! Finno-Ugrics have been our friens and Finnish people have eaven fought wars for them ! United or not, still brothers ! Good to have u in !
! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimosodat
>>56781945
East Karelians are basically Finns you know not some exotic Finno-Ugric tribe.
>>56781864
Laughed a little to videos name because in Finnish
Kulli = Cock
Kylli = Womans name
Vepsian numerals:
1 – üks’ (ühte-)
2 – kaks’ (kahte-)
3 – koume (koume-)
4 – nell’ (nellä-)
5 – viž (vide-)
6 – kuz’ (kude-)
7 – seičeme (seičeme-)
8 – kahesa (kahesa-)
9 – ühesa (ühesa-)
10 – kümne (kümne-)
100 – sada (sada-)
1000 – tuha (tuha-)
*In parentheses there is vowel basis.
Voz’aigad – Seasons
winter – tal’v (tal’ve-)
spring – keväz’ (keväde-)
summer – keza (keza-)
autumn – sügüz’ (sügüze-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSZDdRFPg5U
>>56781945
>heimosodat
so glorious, höimusödad in Estonian
Modern finns are more swedes than finno ugrics, russian finns are more russian than anything else. Estonians are mix of everything around. Hungarians are pretty mych slavs. Your languages is everything you saved from times when you were slant eyed folks from Asia.
>>56782055
Ofcourse they are, but now they sail under Russian flag and longer they are like that, more exotic they will be.
>>56782086
höimusöjad*
>>56782104
>let me tell you about your country
>>56782104
Finno-Ugric languages aren't from Asia though and neither are Uralic. It's an internet meme.
>>56782078
in Estonian
1 - üks
2 - kaks
3 - kolm
4 - neli
5 - viis
6 - kuus
7 - seitse
8 - kaheksa
9 - üheksa
10 - kümme
100 - sada
1000 - tuhat
Seasons
winter - talv
spring - kevad
summer - suvi
autumn - sügis
Vespian is literally mix of Estonian and Finnish, so cute, seems like an awesome langauge
>>56782104
>people actually believe proto-finnics were slants
Sami might have Samoyedic heritage but Finns or Estonians not so much.
>Modern finns are more swedes
Kek, even the Fennoswedes are mostly Finnish.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1783413
Sami desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYqXdZBvMJY
>>56782302
The meme is probably perpetuated by the epicanthic fold which has more to do with resisting snow and cold damage to your eyes than being from Asia.
>>56782356
what language is that? it sounds like russian
>>56781945
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimosodat
Interesting, but i'm afraid, permian, volga and altaic one are too far from this.
It's like only-north-partying.
>>56782078
I love Vepsian Now !
>>56782352
It needs it's own alphabet Tbh.
>>56782292
Unfortunately Vepsän kel' under threat of extinction.
>>56782078
1 – üks’ (ühte-) - Yksi
2 – kaks’ (kahte-) - Kaksi
3 – koume (koume-) - Kolme
4 – nell’ (nellä-) - Neljä
5 – viž (vide-) - Viisi
6 – kuz’ (kude-) - Kuusi
7 – seičeme (seičeme-) - Seitsemän
8 – kahesa (kahesa-) - Kahdeksan
9 – ühesa (ühesa-) - Yhedksän
10 – kümne (kümne-) - Kymmenen
100 – sada (sada-) - Sata
1000 – tuha (tuha-) - Tuhat
*In parentheses there is vowel basis.
Voz’aigad – Seasons - Vuodenajan
winter – tal’v (tal’ve-) - Talvi
spring – keväz’ (keväde-) - Kevät
summer – keza (keza-) - Kesä
autumn – sügüz’ (sügüze-) - Syksy
>>56782302
>the Samoyed meme
Samoyeds were originally a European people who lived on the western side of Urals. You can't get a Mongoloid Saami by mixing European with European. Saami are Yukaghir and Ket mixed just like Samoyeds though.
>>56782502
Я хoть и нe любитeль иcтopии пpo oтcoeдинeния, нo.. Чтo ты дyмaeшь o пepcпeктивaх фopмиpoвaния мecтeчкoвoгo финнo-yгpcкoгo гocyдapcтвa? И чтo нaм дeлaть c paccтoяниями мeждy пepмякaми, вoлжcкими и aлтaйcкими бpaтцaми? He близкий cвeт вce тaки.
>>56782633
you do realize this is an Finno-Ugric thread, why do you have to bring your mordor language here, also
PRIVJET VANJA))))))) KAK DELA`?))))CIGARETTY ECT?))))))))))
>>56782450
Yes they are bit far. Where are u from btw ?
>et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soome-ugri_kultuuripealinn
>hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnugor_Kultur%C3%A1lis_F%C5%91v%C3%A1ros
Finno-Ugric culture capital. A thing since 2014.
>>56782633
Кyдa этo вы coбpaлиcь? У вac жe дaй бoг тaм oднa вocьмaя этoй ypaльcкoй кpoви.
>>56782709
No need to, m8.
Uliparo tonet.
>>56782633
Дyмaю, чтo oни пpимepнo paвны нyлю.
>>56782730
>2014 Obinitsa, Eesti
Obinitsa doesnt sound Estonian at all
>>56782735
У кoгo "y вac"?
Bпpoчeм, лyчшe вce тaки oтвeтить нa пpeдыдyщий вoпpoc. Бeзo вcяких cpaчeй.
>>56782633
>>56782735
Could u write some other letters than those witch are made from parts of combine harvester ?
>>56782822
Southern Estonia mate. Everything sounds and feels a tad bit different than Northern Estonia.
>>56782841
У pyccких "финo-yгpoв".
Finno Ugric... It has cultures and peoples that we share absolutely nothing culturally nor genetically. How about we go with just Finnic next time, the ones who are actually related to us?
>>56782877
Is that eaven possible ? Estonia is so small and cute anyway that could there be any difference from east and south ?
>>56782797
Boт и я тaкжe -.-
>>56782877
>Southern Estonia
my cottage is literally 60km from Latvia (Helme maakond, Tõrva linna lähedal) aka deep south, and even there "Obinitsa" would sound very weird and alien
>>56782927
Пoнятию нe имeю. Я caм нe из aлтaйcкoй ceмьи.
Pask thread, venelaste poolt vallutatud :(
>>56782846
>Could u write some other letters than those witch are made from parts of combine harvester ?
Sorry, didn't get it. What do you want?
>>56783009
Дa ктo бы coмнeвaлcя. Я o тoм и гoвopю. Heтy в Poccии бoльшe ни ингepмaнлaндцeв, ни вecпoв, ни кapeлoв. Ocтaлocь тaм нecкoлькo тыcяч хaнтoв дa мaнceй вcяких.
>>56782957
It's not like there's any Ural Ugric or Samoyed people in these threads anyway and Hungarians are honorary Finnics.
>>56783075
We have more finno ugrics than Finland and Estonia so russian is pretty much finnish ligua franka :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA-YANuPwI4
Watch this
>>56782431
Probably some sort of Finno-Volgaic language. Definitely not Russian. Surprisingly, Finno-Volgaic languages have phonetic composition similar to Russian. So it is difficult to distinguish them by ear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIznvZI4cXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUZewRJeJu0
>>56782986
Well, that's nothing strange. I spend a lot of summer time in Elva which is also quite down South, but if I go further from there to say Võru, which is relatively near int he grand scale of things, the local dialect is undecipherable for me.
>>56783075
Oh, you need translate.
Well, i was asked my friend something like "do we have any chances to forming local finno-ugric government, country. And what should we do with distances between us (because we're pretty disconnected geographycally)".
Then we was made a conclusion: chances are about 0%.
>>56783084
Tы в кypce, чтo пoмимo кapeлoв, вecпoв и ингepмaнлaндeц ecть eщe oгpoмнoe кoличecтвo дpyгих?
Хoтя ты, кaжeтcя, cтaвишь oдних вышe дpyгих. A этo yжe плoхoй зaхoд для paзгoвopa. He coбиpaюcь нa этy тeмy cпopить.
>>56783219
You know you could had just wrote the same thing in English in the first place m8...
>>56783126
Yes, but it would be nice if you tank with a language we others understand please. U can go write those combine machine letters in /rus/
>>56783291
I know but russian is simplier and gives me a opportunity to speaking more detailed (because of nativness).
anime
>>56783291
Not him but expressing yourself in russian is much easier when you talk about different political issues, also he was asking specifically russians.
>>56783269
Я пpo вceх. He дyмaл кoгo-тo выдeлять.
>>56782986
Mul sugulased elavad Tõrvas. See hüppetorn vanamõisa järvel, mälestused lapsepõlvest. Peakat julgesin ainult kolmandalt (uuelt,5 korruseliselt) hüpata. Nägin pealt kui see tüüp ennast vigaseks (ja vist hiljem suri) hüppas. Ronisid üksteise kukile ja siia hüppasid.
>>56783095
Plus, it's as stupid as an Englishman celebrating being one with a Russian, because they're Indo European. I haven't got much to do with Finno Ugrics apart from a distant linguistic relation, but everything to do with Finnics.
>>56783352
Ok. I understand. Thank you for opening this for rest of us. Tell me more abour ur Finno-Ugric relations ?
>yfw you realize that Russian Empire despite pretending to be pan slavic state was actually pan finnic and almost pan ugric state.
>>56783496
This !
>>56780431
cry - hauta
>>56783437
So don't post anything then? These threads are quite informative about linguistics and the present day situation of Finno-Ugric speakers.
Mayor of Moscow-Sergey Sobyanin-ugric. (Mansi).
>>56783620
Looks like memefinnish :D
segg:D
>>56783416
mhm, see hyppetorn on legendaarne, ega ma ise ka ei julge peakat viimaselt hyppata :DD, liiga hull.
Ma ei olegi varem kuulnud, et keegi oleks ennast vigaseks sealt hyppanud, aga ei yllata teades millised maakad Tõrvas elavad, heas mõttes muidugi :DD
>>56783458
Ville Haapasalo. He's make an documentary (Suomensukuiset 30 päivässä) about finnu-ugric peoples in Russia because he's know our contry pretty well.
And.. Probably, that was the one and only step for our hookup.
I mean, seems like peoples are not 2 much interested in close friendship or just friendship on a cultural/historical level. Just some guys like Ville and you (as i see).
So, here's result
>Tell me more abour ur Finno-Ugric relations
You've got that with baltic ones. We're trying to make it between us in a borders of Russia. That's it.
>>56783655
Karjalan piirakoita.
>>56783620
>>56783416
>>56783697
>peakat
>mitte lennukit
nõrk esitus noormehed
>>56783671
>implying these memes are not real
I was in Finland twice: once in Oulu and once in Jyvaskyla, both times everyone around looked like these almost mongol dudes from memes.
>>56783560
this pic was made by a Hungarian, and in their language its the same thing
>>56783750
anna andeks, vanaisa.
>>56783752
sure pal
>>56783712
Oh, its a shame that keeping in touch with Finno-ugrics in Russia is pretty hard. Im very interested of cultural and historical similarities of us. Im going to Aunus (Olonez) tomorrow to icefishing in Ladoga.
>>56783752
The thing is though, there is not a single Finn with actual ultramongoloid eyes which you can find in Slavic Russians and Ukrainians.
>>56782965
In Setomaa for instance they have their own special snowflek booze called 'õuka' which is under some cultural protection so they are allowed to distill it while in other places that would be illegal. They also have their own church! The 'tsässon'. Which is nothing like the more modern Lutheran church we have in the North.
You finns should invest in Russian Karelia. Nobody cares about it here since it is considered outskirtish middle of nowhere but it is related to you.
>>56783868
Not joking desu.
>>56783889
Have a nice travel then, m8.
And i'm gonna to see Karelia at this summer. Forests, swamps, isles, stone coasts. Seems great.
>>56783895
Wow ! That is very interesting ! Thank you /int/ for teaching me something new again !
>>56783614
No, but I would rather concentrate on Finnics that are actually related. We see all the time ppl who talk about something very specific like Germanic, and then adding something vague like Finno Ugric into the discussion like it's the same thing. The comparable is Finnic. You don't see Germans making threads with Indians in it either.
>>56783894
That's how I detect finno-ugrics here. If a dude is slant eyed he is finno ugric. Most of times it works pretty well. Most of them appear to be Mordva.
>>56784014
In my eyes, that looks great and just like in Finland exept those ugly "houses" they are living ! More like a cottages.
>>56784018
I've never been very far in Russia before. Have you been in Finland ever ?
>>56784079
1500 years of Turkic and Mongolian domination does that. You are from Saransk or whatever?
>>56784188
No, which is sad. I have no much money for traveling so..
I will overtake it in future, i hope.
>>56784051
The South is also the place you go if you want to get the authentic smoke-sauna experience.
There are smoke-saunas in the North too, but they are usually constructed by people who have not been passed down the building knowledge from their fathers and don't know how to make the smoke flow properly.
And in the North people don't use them to smoke meat and stuff...
Btw, the Lake Peipus area (in the East) has their own variation of sauna as well, which is more closer to the Russian banya, but not quite.
So yeah, even though we are a very small country we have quite a lot of difference between the regions.
>>56784304
No. I am from Moscow. It's russian Babylon. My group in uni has a georgian, chuvash, tatar, bashkir, mordva, gypsy, ukrainian (me), mordva (qt girl btw), actual russian (2 of 20 people in group are actual russians), kalmyk (dude really looks like mongol).
>>56784304
>>56784079
I'm not pretending for the absolute truth but.. There's a story about ancient finns. They're arrived from South Siberia. And they're was living there for the hundreds and thousands years. They're living with other tribes (which is asiatic). So i think that's why we all have some % of asiatic genes permanently.
It's silly to think like
>nah, we just can't mixed for 100+ and 1000+ years
Of course we do.
>>56784387
>hurr durr we haz ancient estonian knowledge
of building saunas
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
my sauna in Saaremaa next to a pond is probably better than what ever shit you have there
>>56781718
this is nice song
>>56784529
I'm from Northern Estonia and my sauna is in Northern Estonian style. The South has their own style and the East has their own style. Never heard of anything unique about Saaremaa sauna to be honest. So you can stop with the pleb-posting and ultra shit reading comprehension.
>>56781718
Is there an album of this or something? This is great
Wow.
Another /fug/ thread.
Nice.
How do you guys eat it? It still lays in my fridge. I can't finnish it since january.
>>56783655
THOSE ARE VAGINAS EL MAO
>>56784387
NICE ! We have smokesaunas here too (Savusauna) and we eat smoked meat, in Northern-Finland more than in south. As you know we have more than 3 million saunas in Finland so there are more than 1 sauna to two peolple.
That is very interesting that Estonia has so many differences. In Finland we have huge differences because up in the Lapland we have samis, and i south we have niggers,leftists,hippies and all shit expecially in Helsinki. In Helsinki there is not any Finnish Culture left because people are dumb and they think that all Finland exept Uusimaa is just counrtyside and Lapland.
Im from Kainuu, and its famous of hunting lands and old forests. People here are nature-loving and living peacufully with nature.
>>56784513
I don't believe that Uralic languages arrived from Siberia.
I believe that a language was introduced from Siberia in the 6th millenium BC by the people who introduced pottery to European Russia, but it hybridized with a native language. So Uralic languages developed in Europe from both native and imported components just like English developed in England.
>>56784775
Welcome aboard Brother !
>>56784943
>savusauna
>savu
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>56784795
Mämmi ? Put milk or cream in it. Vanilla cream is good too.
>>56785034
>Savusauna
>Suitsusauna
>Suitsu
:DDD
I hope that Finno-Ugric threads still will be created in future. Good luck to everyone, sebranikoid.
>>56785170
probably 1 thread every now and then is good, if we would create these threads too often we would probably run out of stuff to talk about and these threads would be dead
>>56784795
With milk or sweetened cream. I haven't eaten this since I was a very small child though.
>>56784943
Yep, the "capital effect" is in full force here too. Maybe not as strong as in Helsinki, but still (definitely not Stockholm tier for sure).
>>56779399
ai läski vai :D get it? sami is fat guys name GET IT?
>>56785290
>>56785072
I was eating it with sweetened milk. First two spoons seemed nice but them.
Well, i'll know not much about other tribe mates but here's something about volga ones if you are interested.
>matriarchy
There's history about finno-ugric like an peacefull nation. We doesn't like to cultivate some thing. Our thing is a hunt and gathering.
That's why most of men are spended their time in the forest while women have to keep hearthstone. So, over the time, there was a matriachy. They're was highly respected.
But the role of the head of state (tribe) was still avaliable only for men.
That's it.
>religion
Sort of god-spirits for the nature stuff. For the women origin and for the men.
For example, Veryava and Veryas, wife and husband, spirits of water.
-ava means women. And -as means men.
There's also connection between matriarchy and religion. Women origin is main for the people. And only women at the tribe can being witch, making a rituals.
Another one special is a disconnection between spirits and their nature exhibition.
Veryava is a High spirit of water. But they're not one with water. They're existed apart of each other.
Same story with other spirits.
>>56785170
I'm with that dude who didn't really understand them.What's the point of including people that we share nothing with apart from very distant linguistics?
>>56785571
If you're not interested you don't have to post. I thought this thread was great until the Slavs came.
>>56785170
I'll make sure of it !
Terveisin OP from phone.
>>56784014
>You finns should invest in Russian Karelia.
I would gladly invest in it, if it was Finnish Karelia, like it should be. Unfortunately, our best bet on getting it back is letting it become even poorer, so that Russia doesn't want it anymore.
>>56785514
I remember some time ago a Russian intellectual or cultural theorist from Piter tried to argue for the difference of the Finno-Ugric tribes and Slavs. He noted that a long time ago there was a sharp distinction between the ones who mostly spent their time in the forest, hunting and gathering and the ones that spent their time on the field, raising cattle and growing crops. He also argued that this distinction lives on in Russian language as the following:
Drevljan vs. Poljan (дepeвo -> tree, tree people, пoл -> field, field people).
>>56785514
This ! That was a great text that tells ours culture just tge way it is !
>>56785663
I just don't understand them. That's all. There's an example on the first page. People talk about Slavs, Celtics and then throw Finno-Ugric there, obviously not understanding how broad that term is. It's not even on the same spectrum.
>>56784079
Potato nose and grey eyes for me. If you search them in some god forgotten village in russia
uhm what is this? Can someone explain
>>56783697
Pildil vana,nelja korrusega torn.
Mingid noored (tol ajal minust vanemad) ronisid üksteise kukile ja hüppasid alla. Üks tõmbas teise kaela paigast ja oligi olemas. Ma olin torni kõrval täpselt siis.
Ise ka õppisin hüppama peakat (mitte lennukit) ja siia kutsusin isa ja õe vaatama. Ütlesin neile,et esimene kord ja neid vaja julgestuseks. Hüppasin ja ujusin muuli alla. Peitsin ennast seal nii kaua kui nad paanikasse läksid ja karjuma hakkasid. Good times.
>>56783655
Not tasty though.
>>56783750
Oletan,et lennuk on midagi muud kui pea ees vette hüppamine?
>>56783752
What ever you say,cyka.
>>56786345
>Peitsin ennast seal nii kaua kui nad paanikasse läksid ja karjuma hakkasid.
Kek täielik segopea.
>>56786496
Pea ees ikka, kuis muidu. Vahe on selles, et lennukit hüpates hoitakse käsi lennuki asendis seni kuni keha on veega enam-vähem risti ja siis tuuakse käed ette kokku nagu tavapäraselt peakat pannes.
>>56786061
As i know, drevljane and poljane was slavic tribes.
But yes, that's the means
>Drevljane vs. Poljane (дepeвo -> tree, tree people, пoл -> field, field people).
>>56786068
U're welcome. I also like Kalevala. Do u hold a lot of information about it? Or just some pieces?
Because it seems to me like finno-ugrians has been losted most of it. Everybody knows about scandi paganism, for example. All stories, all pantheon, everything.
But there's big holes in a f-u paganism.
>>56786314
Tiällä jutellaa meijjä velejie kua kielistä, kuluttuurista ja muista semmosista. Ja tietennii juonitaa maette suamista takasi ryssiltä.
>>56786345
Pilt oli liiga cozy, et seda mitte kasutada :D
Aga hea story mees
>>56783895
Õuka aka ether is not special to setumaa you dumb fucker.
>>56786593
I think most of the old stories have been lost because of the lack of a written culture up until the 19th century or so.
And what's more. The stories that did end up in Finnish Kalevala and our Kalevipoeg are supposedly a very small portion of the original stories which were told all over the lands of the ancients.
>>56786649
I'm here on vacation. Could you explain in english?
>>56779104
Russians are not finns, not ugrics, not tatars, kurwa!
>>56786154
I guess you need to be interested in the subject.
>>56786733
Why not, instead of being the stereotypical underage edgetard, give examples of where else it is distilled and consumed.
>>56786734
>a very small portion
Yeah, as i thought.
Same story here.
But
>because of the lack of a written culture up until the 19th century or so.
Germanic (scandi) paganism is ancient too. But they're did it. Somehow. I mean, they're saved it.
>>56786750
Northwestern "Russians" are Finnic though
>>56784654
Käi vittu. Kõik.
So does everybody find Nico cute and cute?
>>56784795
milk or vanilla cream and sugar if i want it to be more sweet
>>56786902
Maybe you miss Russians with Kalmyks.
>>56786902
I don't think the color of hair is a best index for that.
Especially if it's just a one color.
>>56786593
I'm a different Finn but indeed, a lot of information about our past has been lost but there are a couple of good books about Finnish mythology and paganism for example. Newer academic ones I can recommend are Itämerensuomalaisten mytologia by Anna-Leena Siikala and Suomalainen kansanusko by Risto Pulkkinen. Those are in Finnish though.
>>56786742
In short: this thread is not for you.
>>56786750
Yes but because Russians are occupying the lands of some of our brethren, they have to post under the Russian flag for now.
>>56786734
The stories are mostly collected from Karelians, so they probably consist of their exploits during the last 1000 years with stories that have been running among all Finnics, including modern Estonians. Like the fights with the people of Pohjola remind me a lot of the hunting and taxing trips of Karelians against the Kvens or Norwegians up north
>>56784943
>In Helsinki there is not any Finnish Culture left because people are dumb and they think that all Finland exept Uusimaa is just counrtyside and Lapland.
I moved to Helsnki one year ago and this is so accurate it's sad. Some people also calk other places in Uusimaa countryside
>>56786900
It was described by people who could read/write. And remember, for us it was the Germans who actually taught us reading/writing lol. Before that the stories were sung in villages in 'regivärss' or 'rune-singing'.
>>56786910
Alaväärsus lööb välja või?! Mine häbene nüüd lastelaua all edasi koos koeraga.
>>56786779
Well of course. People just don't seem to understand what certain terms mean.
>>56786174
>Potato nose
This
Shit. Have to get me some beer before it's too late lol.
>>56779104
My MtDNA says i'm Finno-Urgic, but i'm a white man on my dads side. Can I play?
>>56787354
So you have haplogroup U5?
Are Hungarians big on the whole muh Finno-ugricism thing? They've been hanging out with Slavs for so long it makes me wonder.
>>56787039
>Yes but because Russians are occupying the lands of some of our brethren, they have to post under the Russian flag for now.
They all are Rossiyans (citizens of Rossiya). But we you use word Russian, it is about the the Russian (Russkie) people, and we don't include another peoples living in Russia into ot - they are Karelian people, Tatar People, Chechen People, etc.
>>56787039
>Russians
There's some theory about Russians = Slavic + Finno-Ugric. Because russian culture has become exist only after Ruric (which is probably was finn too).
So, maybe you shouldn't see Russians and Finno-Ugric like absolutely different people that has no kinship. Just think about it.
And yes, i'm not arguing about steal or not steal. It's a different topic for me.
>>56779739
Plz explain?
>>56786812
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethyl_ether
>>56787039
>Those are in Finnish though
Eh, that's the problem.
>>56786914
Oh look, it's the nicoposter from /mämmi
>>56787164
Yeah, we definitely should use runestones (more, at least) for that.
Not an absolutely solve for the problem but.. We could have more infrormation about past times.
>>56787501
One of them.
You do realize Nico is best raibu so she has millions of fans?
>>56787214
>tfw snub nose
>>56787164
Ah kuule. Suitsusaun on eriline. Olen elu aeg Põhja-Eestis elanud. Suitsusaun on järve kaldal ja teen liha ka seal. Jah see on pärit Lõuna-Eestist (sama moodi nagu meie kõik uurali tagant) aga ära nüüd nii eriliseks ka tee ennast. Special little snowflake.
>>56787379
Haplogroups don't determine ones heritage or identity. Even less about your language family.
>>56787379
U4.. less common and more western I think. But Still mongorian
>>56779213
meänkieli and kveeni are just dialects of Finnish
>>56787641
tossa kuvass on Nico Yazawa ^__^ se on super idoli !
nico liitty muusiin eli siis Otonokizaka hich sckoolin (vaikee sana) idoli ryhmää ku se oli semmone idoli fani ja halus ain olla idoli! ^_^ se eka koitti terrorisoida niit iha täpösellä ku ei tykänny niist mut sit kaikki oli sillee et nico pls -.- ja sit nico oli sillee jaa ok iha sama voin liittyy teidä klubii jos ette määlyile ain ja sit sen jälkee kukaa ei määlyilly (paitsi honoka joskus ku honoka o iha töhö ain välil).
sit nico alko treenaa iha täpösel muusien kaa (ja sit honoka perseili taas jotai ^o^ ) mut se kai kuuluu asiaan tavallaa emt.
no sit nico vaa söpöili ain mut siin o hauskaa se et vaik se söpöilee ain laval se on oikeesti aika nihkee vimpula , aina vaan mököttelee ja sit nozomi kurittaa sitä puristamal sen tisseij ja sit se ain rauhottuu. sit nico ain sanoos nico nii iha sama mitä tapahtuu ku seon sen tavara merkki ^^
>>56784513
Haplogroup N is from Asia like R is though, by that logic R1a carriers are Mongols too
>>56787705
Suitsusaun = savusauna = smoke sauna?
>>56787232
21:47
Kurat ma oleks 3 korda poes ära käia. Terviseks.
>>56784014
You ruined it already.
Keep it, faggots.
>>56787734
Of course they do. Its is a direct line maternally or paternally to your earliest ancestor. How is that not muh heritage?
Identity/culture no of course not, and certainly not language - it all looks Turkish to me :)
>>56787807
Yes
>>56787660
Are you a nigedinogedi?
>>56787807
Jah
>>56779952
Some Hungarians really hate us though
>>56787802
N is Finnic though and R1a is indo-european. Geography means very little especially in Asia as everybody was nomadic and mixing.
