When did Putin start with this ultra-conservativism? It wasn't always like this
It seems to me as if he did it to gain popular support after those protests in 2011
>>56745938
he woke up one day and felt like wew lad
>>56745969
Yeah, I guess you're right
![1343009790973[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TSG6Rgk.jpg "1343009790973[1].jpg")
I hope the whole Eastern Europe stays conservative.
Power
Like Erdo, Orban and all the bad lads in Africa who "evolved." Except based rato Paul Kagame
>>56745938
>ultra-conservatism
It's just regular old conservatism lad.
>>56746410
>stays
Some countries, like Poland and Hungary, are turning into Russia style mafia states
>>56746532
No, this is fairly new, even those anti-gay laws are quite recent.
>>56746594
Stop watching that gay media, son.
>>56745938
>ultra-conservativism?
its literally just a meme
>>56746693
Total dominance of a single party isn't doing them good
One positive outcome of our recent general election is that we've avoided that fate
>>56745969
could be right, at least it make sense this way
>>56745938
3rd presidentional term, since 2012. Right after he cried in inauguration
>>56746410
How about you be conservative Suomi and we'll take the advanced liberal path
>>56746594
fucking finally, I say
and you, little liberal pussy, can get the fuck out to one of your favourite pussified shitholes
>>56747723
Why do Eastern Europeans have a hard-on for tyranny.
>>56745938
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Putin is most definitely not "ultra-conservative".
Ultra conservative is Poland.
>>56747111
He's either trolling or a plain old idiot
Nice digits
>>56745938
>ultra-conservativism
Not sure what do you mean by that.
>he did it to gain popular support
Kek. Like anyone supported the government policies. Sure, started around 2012.
>>56746594
this
>>56747759
because democracy doesn't work
parties are just trying to get into power, steal all they can, and then fuck off to EU or something to get even more lucrative positions
and they all are pushing for more welfare, destroying the economy, because that's what blind masses want. when the masses finally get pissed off, they bring in immigrants, give them welfare and promise more if they vote for them
it's a vicious cycle and none of these people are anyhow interested in well being of a country
>>56747894
What's your problem? Why are you posting in every damn thread, antifa?
>>56747980
>tfw my country has had a continuous democracy since 1776
Git gud. :^)
>>56746693
>implying >>56746594 isn't right
I don't mind my country being conservative desu, but conservatism has nothing to do with rule of circlejerk-like clique who promotes incompetent and corrupt yesmen.
>>56748085
lol
>>56748085
oh, thank Heavens!
>>56745938
>When did Putin start with this ultra-conservativism?
It doesn't mean that we are conservatists if we are not completly cucked.
Actually Russia is a liberal, multiculturalism and pro-feminism country, but on the coservatism rails.
>>56747980
>because democracy doesn't work
How about go fuck yourself
One day you may live in a dictatorship and you'll realize how fucking stupid that comment is
>>56748295
On all levels except physical Russia is liberal
>>56748402
>One day you may live in a dictatorship
I hope to live to that day
while your democracies will finally crumble, like they always do
>>56748402
You'd think that a country that's lived through a shitty authoritarian government would know better.
And Putin supports only foreign /right wing/ parties.
In Russia only LDPR has power and accepted freedom of speech.
Also maybe Putin even isn't a russian, he may be vepsian. Vepsian language is the one of two RF languages that on the latin alphabet.
No fanatical Putin-hater, just facts.
Shitholes are conservative (see most of muslim world, eastern Europe and Africa) while rich parts of the world are liberal/feminist (see China, New world, Western Europe)
>>56748533
>China
>""""""""""""""""""""feminist""""""""""""""""""""
what do they teach you in Swedish Boarding School for Boys
>>56748418
Is it bad or good?
I fucking tired of this third world-tier wild capitalism and faggotory to USSR while the really good things from it had dropped.
I am nationalist+socdem.
>>56748533
>China
>liberal
Ain't that some shit.
>>56748533
Poland is better than Sweden and coservative.
>>56748085
>Democracy
You're fucking blind if you can't see that US is an oligarchy with an 'abnormally' high tolerance of individual liberties (excluding economic).
>>56748484
we live through it to this very day
now it's le ebin democracy, so we can cycle through variety of post communist parties! God bless democracy!
Shit started in 2004 after the "1st maidan" in ukraine.
Putin felt like west has deceived him.
It went full shit in his 3rd term
Sad, this man had a chance to leave politics in 2008 as a great president who fought with terrorism, decreased level of poverty and made life better
>>56748443
Could we send our autistic wannabe Breiviks to live with you guys?
You could have deep and meaningful discussions about the perils of cultural marxism and cuckoldry under your cozy dictatorships.
>>56748734
>high tolerance of individual liberties (excluding economic)
are you retarded?
>>56748764
Nothing started until 2012-2013.
>>56746786
>Total dominance of a single party isn't doing them good
brainwashing stronk
>>56746594
Commies always accuse their enemies of corruption, that's how they got the U.S. to stop supporting Chiang kai-shek and led China to fall to Maoism.
Do not believe their lies. The difference between the corruption in a country like Poland and Hungary, and the corruption in Belgium and France, is that you don't know about the corruption in Belgium and France since corrupt officials and media owners are all part of the same masonic lodge or synagogue.
>>56748746
So would you prefer food shortages, even shitter economy and no freedom to shitpost on 4chan?
>>56748957
>corrupt officials and media owners are all part of the same masonic lodge or synagogue
Holy shit, this must be some sort of a mental illness
>>56747759
There is more freedom and independence of civil society in Poland and Russia than in Western Europe and North America, where communist intellectuals decide what thoughts are approved and people practice self-censorship in the name of "anti-racism".
>>56748975
>authoritarianism=communism
seems like someone never heard of Pinochet here
>>56749036
>the incoherent ramblings of a HUEHUEHUEHUE
>>56748909
you wot
>>56748957
it's le epin antifa slovak
make him and us a favor, don't reply
>>56748975
Just compare american cities and french ones.
>>56748957
>KMT was not corrupt
Impressive source you got there
>>56749122
He can't into /náš svet/ magic.
>>56748402
>says Sweden
If you were actually familiar with the work of Eastern Bloc dissidents, like Czeslaw Milosw, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn and Vaclav Havel, you would realize that Sweden is already a dictatorship where Cultural Marxism is in the place Bolshevism occupied in 20th century communism.
>>56748514
Source then
There's pictures of Putin at age 3 in fucking StP
>>56749114
The Russian economy grew 5% per year average until 2013.
Then oil went bye bye. It's rising again btw
>>56749240
It doesn't means that he wasn't born in Russia if he isn't a russian by enthicy.
Also half of StP has the finnish relations.
>>56749138
And what is YOUR source? Edgar Snow? Owen Lattimore? Brooks Atkinson? These were known communist agents.
>>56745938
In 2004 after the Orange Revolution. He demanded that Kuchma put down the Ukranian uprisings by force but he refused. This was the pivotal moment for Putin. From then on the conspiracy theory that the CIA creates all color revolutions and has this huge influence over hundreds of thousands of people took hold of him. And so he began to develop his strategy against this imaginary enemy according to his old KGB training. The rest is history. Before 2004 he really wanted to orient Russia towards the West and even joked about joining Nato. But the Orange Revolution changed Putin's views profoundly.
>>56749114
I'm talking about OP's topic.
>The leftist Slovenian makes another thread
>>56749059
>b-b-but it'll be different under fascism xD!!!
Don't you have more toilets to clean so you can afford the internet bills :^)
>>56749235
Václav Havel would've told scum like yourself to fuck off
He was what is on /pol/ derided as a cuck i.e. decent human being
>>56749300
Our polish allies will help us. They actually sold the perfect trams to us, it was the polish-russian industry project.
>>56749387
>conspiracy theory
>>56749411
nice adhominem bro, here's your (You), I consider this a perfect ending to our little discussion
>>56749300
Do you realize that USA will be a spanish country soon?
>>56749421
>Havel's political philosophy was one of anti-consumerism, humanitarianism, environmentalism, civil activism, and direct democracy.[1] He supported the Czech Green Party from 2004 until his death.
>>56749357
Lmao you're autistic. He looks more ethnically Russian than most, knows Russian, and is a authoritarian leader.
How much more Russian can he get?
>>56749421
It doesn't matter, my point still stands, if you read "The Power of the Powerless" and substitute the socialist slogan in the grocer's store with a "diversity is our strenght" slogan, the example still stands.
Actually, nowadays it's worse.
Western Europe is the most totalitarian society that ever existed, anti-racism goes further than Soviet communism because it employs self-censorship and completely destroys social relations. When you were persecuted by the Stasi, you could count upon your friends and family, but now, when you are accused of "racism" for not giving your wife and daughter to the enjoyment of big black cock, your own friends and social relations abandon you.
>>56749059
And life was shit under Pinochet. If your far-right dream government fails to make standards of life better for you and you suddenly get cold feet, what are you going to do? You can't even shitpost here because the secret police are watching for anything that pisses off the caprices of the regime.
>>56749605
>when you are accused of "racism" for not giving your wife and daughter to the enjoyment of big black cock, your own friends and social relations abandon you.
I'm actually worried about you
Please, seek help before it's too late
>>56749364
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2009/04/21/2003441653
Taiwan
>>56749605
>all of this post
OK, now I know you're just making shit up, so your worldview is intact.
>>56748402
>>56748484
He's just trying to be edgy. No one can be this stupid.
>>56749538
Not really. I don't say that it makes him worser. Finno-ugric nations are good and european.
But it's a working version. And I just wanna say that he isn't a russian nationalist, how ameticans are imaging him. He is liberal-conservative with sympathy to USSR, I guess.
Also, the Vepsian language
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZEdlDHWHsxo
>>56749387
>conspiracy theory
I am as anti-Russian as it gets, but the Color Revolutions were most definitely supported by the CIA.
>>56749605
wew lad
I feel bad for you that you actually believe all this garbage
>>56749656
>and life was shit under pinochet
Hahahahahahahahahaha
>>56749687
Be like them
http://youtu.be/ixPsUJyfhX8
>>56749656
>And life was shit under Pinochet
nice meme comrade
>>56749794
Putin is literally one of the few competent people in the Russian government. It's the retards he has to help get elected which are fuck ups.
Putin is most likely ethnically Russian, and it doesn't matter either way.
Vespian language? I have never heard of this.
>>56749656
Pinochet's Chile was not totalitarian and the secret police didn't mess with you unless you were a known communist guerrilla.
>>56749605
>Western Europe is the most totalitarian society that ever existed
>quickly descends into sexual fantasies
this is gold
>>56749862
Wasn't he a bloody dictator who used to kill people like Stalin and Napoleon?
>>56750068
Yes, but he killed leftists, so he is okay. :^)
>>56749948
You really believe that Western Europe is a totalitarian dictatorship of the Church of the Big Black Cock? Man...
>>56748909
That's only when Putin felt strong enough to start a hybrid war against Ukraine and the EU. But Putin's mind changed in 2004 as your compatroit said. From then on he worked towards making Russia able to wage such a war.
2018 will get most interesting. Several things will happen then: 1) the transformation of Russia's economy to a war economy will be finished, 2) the transformation of the Russian military will be advanced enough to make Russia able to take on any Nato nation except the USA, 3) Russian currency reserves will be depleted and 4) elections.
2018 has all the makings for the outbreak of a big and serious war.
Let's not forget that the reason Hitler started his war in '39 despite his generals telling him the German army will be ready for war in '42 was because he ran out of money.
He saw the state of western country and said to himself, holy shit I better do everything I can to slow this down
>>56749945
No, seriously. He looks finnish and it's a fact.
Picreleated (Sergej Šargunov / Sergey Shargunov) is an example of how etnhical russian looks. Russians are closer to poles, especially central.
Also Poklonskaja looks clearly polish.
Russia is a multicultural country. Even russians as ethnos were created after Novgorod falled under Moscow. Before it Novgorod and Moscow were as different countries as Spain and France now.
>>56750068
>who used to kill people like Stalin and Napoleon
>napoleon
when will this ebin napoleon was a dictator maymay stop ?
He was one hell of a personality, a lot of classical liberal views with the right amount of conservatism
>>56750068
he didn't kill any people
>>56749945
>putin
>Competent
Nah, no wonder you support Trump.
>>56750133
Forget it then.
>>56750210
>war
Lol, no. Who would attack us? If Putin leaves, we elect Shoigu and continue stagnating.
>>56749432
>>56749797
You can support a revolution but you can't instigate one. In particular you can't make hundreds of thousands go out on the streets if they don't want to themselves.
The paranoia of Putin goes a whole lot deeper.
>>56750255
Napolen didn't start any wars :D
Dindu nuffin like other conquerors :DD
>>56750384
>You can support a revolution but you can't instigate one. In particular you can't make hundreds of thousands go out on the streets if they don't want to themselves.
Yes you can do it against their own interest , are you a retard? There are people whos profession it is to do this, America and Soros funded NGOs put millions and billions into training these people , organizing groups organizing social media.
>>56750133
>It's OK when we do it :DDD
When will this meme die?
>>56750346
>Who would attack us?
I wasn't talking about someone attacking Russia. I was talking about Russia attacking someone. Read again carefully. The Hitler analogy wasn't just for shits'n'giggles
>>56750532
>I was talking about Russia attacking someone.
Ha-ha.
>>56750137
Just for the record, my uncle is a conservative old fart. He's living in Sweden since 1968 and he's cursing at faggots left and right
His family doesn't agree with him, but he's free to do that. No Swedish Stasi has taken him away or anything
>>56750454
NGOs like those fighting HIV in Russia. After they got branded as foreign agents and couldn't continue their work, guess what happened? HIV rates in Russia rose again. Stop being a conspiracy nut.
>>56750683
Then you have people like that calling you a conspiracy theorist because American taxpayer funded NGOs and Soros funded NGO's are instigating regime change with tried and refined regime change techniques.
Western idiots drink a special kind of cool aid, no wonder they stopped functioning as countries
>>56750683
I can't find anything funny about the thought.
>>56749387
You do realize people in such positions tend to rely on intelligence reports more than "conspiracy theories, right?"
>>56750805
>Then you have people like that calling you a conspiracy theorist
Yeah, that is pretty surreal, m8.
>>56749605
Are you one of those southern Brazilians I keep hearing about?
>>56750964
It's been known for some time that when Putin says these things, he really believes them. People close to him have told the story.
He wouldn't be the first dictator believing in weird stuff. And he won't be the last.
>>56750530
It will never die, m8. Applying different standards based on sympathy will always be there for you.
>>56751230
Dude, you live in a world where the CIA made a lookalike act in a porno film in order to overthrow a regime at one point
He's not crazy, even if I greatly dislike where he's heading with Russia. The concerns are valid.
>>56751600
The notion that the CIA gets hundreds of thousands of people on the street who don't want to themselves is simply crazy. Germany is currently under heavy Russian propaganda attack including active measures by the Russian intelligence services. But the most they achieved (including the useful idiots) was about 2'000 people in total on the streets dispersed over several locations. You'd need absolute totalitarian control over society to get these numbers up by even one order of magnitude, which back then didn't exist in Ukraine. It's simply Putin's paranoia.
