I herad there is only 240 years country hahaha
Nice to meet you, herad
>>56712918
There are younger countries than that, like >>56712990
come on amerika! hey come on!!
>>56713676
Sexy.
ALWAYS WAS
ALWAYS WILL BE
ABORIGINAL LAND
>>56712918
>>56712918
>69 years old
>>56712990
>25 years old
>mfw there are countries which are less than 1000 years old
>not even 360 years old
>still one of the oldest countries out there
>>56714189
>>56714315
most countries in Western Europe are older than that
>>56714399
>tfw less than 100 years old in current form
>>56714131
>murrikan education
There's a good argument to be made that the country of Japan only came in to existence in 1868, if not 1945.
Anyway, Australia didn't exist before 1901.
>>56714451
>Russian Federation
>founded 1991
>only 81% Russian
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>56714315
America was created in 1865 when the Confederacy and the Union, which were separate countries, were combined.
>>56714451
>Our country's age isn't connected to the age of our current government.
>America is only 240 years old.
Pick one.
>>56714439
Because most of Ireland broke away? That doesn't stop the rest of the country from existing. I'd say your country has existed since the Acts of Union in 1707.
>>56714544
Country it is people not gov't.
>>56714582
So how old is America?
>>56712918
You used to be an empire before that 240 years country bombed you into decency.
>>56714451
Wait, what he said about Russia is right.
>>56714603
Western calendar starts from when America was founded, so 2016 years old
>>56714603
Natives died, so 240 years.
>>56714610
Even before that you should really only count from the Meiji restoration.
So still younger than America.
>>56714634
Russian Federation*
>>56714603
The USAisn't a nation. It's a bunch of loosely connected ethnic groups that live only to serve the corporations that run the world.
>>56714634
So as he said about Japan.
>>56714541
>he recognizes the confederacy as a legitimate nation
t. Johnny Reb
>>56714670
Not all of the natives died tho.
Besides them, Europeans first settled in America in 1607.
The name came about in 1507.
Now tell me, how is Russia not 25 years old?
>>56714634
>>56714544
>>56714525
>>56714131
The name Russia is derived from Rus, a medieval state populated mostly by the East Slavs.The name Rus itself comes from Rus people, a group of Varangians (possibly Swedish Vikings) who founded the state of Rus.The current name of the country, Poccия (Rossiya), comes from the Byzantine Greek designation of the Kievan Rus'
>>56714838
Russian Federation is 25 years but the beginning of the Russian statehood is 862
>>56714838
Majority of USA is not a native. If chief Old Bull ruled USA right now I would be said America is a oldest country in the world.
>>56714853
And? Are any of the borders the same? do you even speak the same language?
Actually, now that I look, it seems like you guys are only 22, you turn 23 in December. huh.
>>56714853
>state of Rus is gone
>Russian Empire is gone
>USSR is gone
Russian Federation is all you have, and it was founded in 1991 :^)
Cheer up, small fry. Maybe one day you'll join the 200+ year club. If you manage to make it to 2191 without chimping out, that is.
>>56714853
>(possibly Swedish Vikings)
WE
>>56712918
>>56713676
>>56714324
hello davido
>>56715028
Bla bla govt is not country. That is my point anyway the name of the country is same as people lol.
>>56715028
So? That just change of form of government
>>56715134
Oh so the form of government has nothing to do with it?
>>56715187
Govt are russians so it is ok. Not French or germans like with UK .
>>56715028
>state of Rus is gone
>Russian Empire is gone
>USSR is gone
That is only a names of Moscow princedom.
>His country doesn't worship its presidents as demigods.
>>56715022
How about you, japs?
How old are you since war?
Japan empire is dead long ago, you are just 69 years old and a small island.
Stop baiting you look retarded.
>>56715106
>>56715134
>>56715258
>a country
>A set region of land having particular human occupation or agreed limits
>Russian Empire and USSR lost territory, governments, and subjects
>Russian Federation is different from its predecessors in all three accounts
>still the same nation because the name is still similar to what it was in the 800s
TOP KEK
>>56715258
You know Rus was mostly in modern Ukraine, right?
>>56715552
>>56715552
Holy shit we can say this about EVERY country
I am OP
I'm not so deeply considerd and post it
like proxy hahaha
>>56715609
ofc we know it's called Kievan Rus' but it was so only before 1240.
>>56715628
Yeah but America has been having free and open elections for the same government for 240 years. so.....
>>56715624
>blyat u bait me
>we wuz swedish kieven tsar commisars and shiet
lel
>>56715628
Yes, most countries aren't very old and cannot match the unbroken 239 year reign of our Union.
>>56715696
Country =/= state
>his country is less than 500 years old
back to >>>/reddit/
>>56715187
Technically that means America's government changes every 2 years in January then.
The Russian state with its present borders is very similar in government structure and ethnic/cultural makeup to the Russian Empire. Russian Empire = RSFR = Russian Federation
So Russia as a nation is at least 600 years old.
>>56715629
Sure, but have you even been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>>56715691
>free and open
>1787-1921
>>56714541
>confederacy was almost completely unrecognized as legitimate
>the confederacy lost their rebellion, and therefore were never independent
>>56714582
Nation is people, country is land, and state is government
>>56715696
>unbroken
What is 1860-1865?
If civil war and rival government does not equal "broken" then Russia goes back to Tsar Ivan the Brutal.
>>56715803
The government is the same even if the people change. The best you can do is say that it only starts after it's present constitution which, for America, is 1787.
>>56714999
I was born here. That makes me a native to this land.
>>56715891
Nation and Country are synonymous in many places, including America.
Abandoning shitpost thread.
>>56715746
>USSR collapses
>loses subjects, territory, and government
>no longer the same state or country
>USA keeps constitution, expands in territory, and grows in citizenship for 239 years
>still the Union
>>56715911
The Union survived the Civil War, and never went under. The Tsardom didn't survive the Revolution, it was wiped out and replaced completely.
>>56715911
If the confederacy had won it's age would have started in 1860. America would still be 1776-1787 because it would still be the same government, just with different borders.
>>56715891
>PRC never won completely in China, therefore it is not legitimate
Shitpost logic
>>56715960
>mfw I am in total agreement with straw boss
>>56715979
Lmao
>>56716017
The Government of Russia has no affect on the nation of Russia. Are you autistic?
>>56715960
Lmao so China started in 1949 and Zimbabwe has never began because no constitution.
Nice logic
>>56716048
The confederacy surrendered, and the southern states are still fully part of the union, for better or worse (worse. it's definitely worse).
>>56716127
>Lmao
What's so funny? Do you not understand what the word native means?
>>56716172
The point is, either America is a lot older than 240 or most countries are a lot younger than they pretend to be.
Pick your poison.
>>56716017
>nigger doesn't know about continuator state
>continuator, which despite change to its borders maintains the same legal personality and possess all its existing rights and obligations
>the Russian SFSR reconstituted itself as the Russian Federation and is recognized as the continuing legal personality of the Soviet Union.
Now fuck off to burger king. You burned to much calories talking about what other countries are.
>>56716127
>losing territory, losing population, changing rulers has no effect on the people
>Russians are exactly the same as they were in the 9th century because their name is kinda the same
So, if I name my house "Sumer", can I claim to live in the oldest empire in the world?
>>56716213
Therefore even if the PRC conquers China, if the RoC does not surrender as an organization then the PRC is illegitimate?
Your logic is flawed.
>>56716241
Then why do we officially call Native Americans, Native Americans?
If Abdul who's parents are straight from Syria is born in Cologne, does that mean he is "native" day 1?
>when his country it's not even 800 years old
>>56716347
The point is you have no logic.
The use of the word "United States of America" in the context of a nation only goes back to 1783.
The use of the word "Russia" in the context of a nation goes back to the late 1500's under Tsar Ivan the Brutal.
The citizens of that time period should decide. And in Russia they decided Russia exists, and in the 13 Colonies, they did not decide the United States of America existed until 1783.
>>56716349
>it's the same because we say so!
>forget the territory we lost, the government that changed completely (at least on paper), the people who are no longer our subjects, it's the same!
>go back to burger king suka blyat!
Good heavens, you're mad as hell. Why does it hurt so much to admit you're only 25 years old?
>His country isn't at least 1000 years old
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Germany
>>56716497
Funny you should bring up names, because the name "America" goes back to 1507.
>Oh but that wasn't the UNITED STATES of America
No, and Tsar Ivan the Brutal didn't rule the Russian FEDERATION.
>>56716364
No because the name has not held since the time of that country.
If your house happened to be in ancient Sumer, and your ethnicity was Sumerian, and you spoke Sumerian, and 2000 years later you and MANY other people called the area Sumer, then yes it would be Sumer even if Iraq "owned" the land.
The RoC is not recognized as sovereign by 189/197 nations. That doesn't mean the RoC doesn't exist in Taiwan.
Bad logic.
>>56716603
>Tsar Ivan the Brutal
>>56714853
Well obviously. Your culture is older than ours, so what? The political agenda of a country shows the true nature of its people's loyalty and stability.
That feel when tree in my backyard planted by my ancestors is older than USA.
>They didnt even make their own soil, conquering it from the raging seas with their bare hands
>>56716520
>his country isn't at least 2300 years old
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgae
>>56716520
Nigger please, by any reasonable definition Germany was founded by Kaeser William I and Otto Bismarck in 1871.
>>56716460
>When his country swore eternal neutrality
>>56716386
>the PRC is illegitimate?
No, because they're clearly an established, functional state.
>Your logic is flawed.
Your autism is a flaw.
>Then why do we officially call Native Americans, Native Americans?
Most of the USA's treaties say American Indian.
>If Abdul who's parents are straight from Syria is born in Cologne, does that mean he is "native" day 1?
Yes. That's what that means. Words have meanings. Is he ethnically German? Of course not, but he is a native German.
>>56716676
My family has been American longer than Merica.
>>56716603
Are you purposely being dense?
The United States of America as a nation was not even known or thought of by the people of that time period until late in the Revolution.
Russia as a nation was thought of by the people of the time period going back to the 1500's.
Have you seen a map? The name "Russia" begins and stays the same from the 1580's to present.
If the official designation was all that mattered, then the United States of America did not begin until 1865 since the name and constitution changed slightly.
>>56716794
Also
>who's
>who is
retard
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4rzPXIS.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>56716845
If you aren't a member of The Sons and Daughters of the American Revolution then stfu.
>>56716897
>United States of America did not begin until 1865
That's still older than most modern states, including the Russian Federation.
>>56716512
Because I AM older then 25 years and I live in the same country for all my life with the same people. I never 'migrated' from USSR to Russia jesus christ
>his country's dynasty isn't running from B.C.
>>56716945
Of course I'm not. My family converted to Catholicism, and became Midwesterners nearly 200 years ago (again, before the midwest was a thing). We're just rowdy hillbillies really.
Nonetheless, my ancestors have been here since 1689.
>>56716794
Your logic was that the Confederacy surrendered so the United States of America's line of succession as the government was not broken.
The RoC has not surrendered so the PRC is not the government of China.
That's the logic used here>>56716017
and what I replied to.
>>56716897
>United States of America did not begin until 1865
You can amend a constitution without throwing it out and starting all over again.
btw the 13th amendment isn't even close to being the newest.
>>56716996
>older then 25 years
Hi fellow oldfag
>>56717113
It wouldn't matter if the CSA won and annexed everything except for maine, if the US government still exists then it still exists.
>>56716996
>I never 'migrated' from USSR to Russia jesus christ
You did when it collapsed and left you with a new government and governing ideology, fewer subjects, and less territory. Just because you're still alive doesn't mean you're not living in a new country.
>>56717113
>Your logic was
See, there you go being autistic again
>the Confederacy surrendered
As a rebellion within the United States
>The RoC has not surrendered so the PRC is not the government of China.
I'm sure the RoC agrees
>>56716693
Thanks for giving me a reason to finally filter you, fucking weeb
>>56714439
>the UK vs England
Kill your self my man
>>56716996
So Crimea is still part of Ukraine?
>>56717278
If you can't handle truth bombs then by all means, go ahead and filter me.
>>56717185
Okay so that's different logic than what I was responding to.
>>56717264
The PRC was a rebellion from within the RoC.
The RoC has not surrendered.
Well 189 out of 197 nations disagree with the RoC.
How come those 189 countries say something you don't?
>>56717307
What? That is not logical. A nation's territory can expand or contract as long as all the territory is not lost.
>>56716460
>When his country is just a large, cucked banking clan
;^))))))
>>56717328
>Making shit up
>Truth bomb
Ok
>Americans trying to convince others that they're not people boiling pot mutt nation with 200 years old culture
Have a deep fried butter and cheddar, John.
>>56717464
>theseus ship paradox
That's a bullshit way of looking at it. The only concrete way to judge the age of a country is by how long it's government has been CONTINUOUSLY governing.
Cultures change, languages change, people in borders change, but governments are what puts all that changing stuff into one box.
>>56717502
Here ya go.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_of_Germany
>New kid on the bloc usurps all Euro nations as head of the west
>All of the delicious butthurt
>>56717648
Can you find a historian that agrees with that statement?
No government has existed in Somalia for 30 years. Does it not exist as a nation?
The truth is the whole matter is subjective.
>>56717710
There's been like two Euros in here.
Are you autistic?
>>56717702
We are a successor state of the HRE and the confederations my friend, not to mention Prussia existed long before the German Empire
>>56717790
Calling Somalia a country is really stretching things.
>Can you find a historian that agrees with that statement?
I doubt it, most serious historians don't spend a lot of time arguing about semantics, which is exactly what this thread is doing.
What's going on here?
>>56717962
>Prussia existed long before the German Empire
Yeah PRUSSIA did. Before ol' Willy became the "king of the Germans" "Germanic" was just an ethnicity. When people thought about their country it wasn't Germany or Deutschland, it was Bavaria or Prussia or one of the other smaller provinces.
Point is, the places that became Germany might have had long histories but they weren't Germany.
>>56718254
So the US exists only since 2009 because you ceded 6 islands to Mexico?
ITT americans who think that country==state
My mob (the Wurundjeri) have been in, and recognised as the original land owners, of this nation around the city of Melbourne for around 40000 years. You fucks don't know shit about history. You haven't truly become one with your land until you can feel the call of a songbird from miles away in the bones of your legs.
>>56717827
It's not just here.
Are you autistic?
