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Which side is more European and white?
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Greece should be yellow and it would be perfect western europe
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>>56582047
The red side obviously.
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>>56582047
North Africa tbqh
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right
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>>56582076
Ancient Greece is long gone Sven.
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>>56582047
you should divide it to 4 pieces. everything below ukraine is pretty much automatically not white.
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Remove kebab pls
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pic related is best europe
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>>56582179
But what about Finns and other Uralics?
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>>56582217
you mean the people who have actually been in europe the longest? surely they are not european
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>>56582211
What about north italy?
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Yellow side. Yellow is 95% white and 5% muslim/black. Red side is 100% white, BUT also 100% slavic.

Germanic > Slav
Germanic > Anglo
Germanic > Latin/Greek
Anglo > Latin
Latin/Greek > Slav

Slav > muslim obviously
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>>56582211
makes sense
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>>56582047
more european obviously left
more whit probably right, but not in a good way
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>>56582211
feels good to live in Mitteleuropa, reunification when? This time let's federalize.
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>>56582321
holland

20% arabs
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>>56582047
You think Spain or Italy are similar to Germs? Or to Sweden? Or that orthodox Romania, Bulgaria or Greece are similar to Hungary or Finland?

Just how fucking stupid this division is
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The Balldicks.
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>>56582240
What has this to do with whiteness?
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>>56582377
oh, you're one of those finno-ugrics are yellow retards?
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>>56582367
of course spain and italy are more similar to germany and sweden than eastern european countries
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>>56582355
Less than 5% of my country is muslim. Also, 95% of those muslims are Moroccans and Turks. No Arabs. Not that it matters a lot but still.

Your country is 100% slav. Monkey.
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>>56582047
>turkey
>European
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>>56582321
how can red side be 100% slavic with greece, finland and roaches included?

and btw Slav >>>>>>>nethercucklands
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>>56582422
>Ethnic groups: Over 81,7% of the population are Dutch (Germanic and Gallo-Celtic stock), other 18,3% (of which 9% are non-western origin mainly Turks, Moroccans, Antilleans, Surinamese and Indonesians) (1999 est.)

nice try rajeet, go back to smoking your hashish fucking cockroach
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>>56582373
This and some Central European cunts.
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>>56582367
Germanics and rapebabies vs Slavs and rapebabies
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>>56582404
You wouldn't remember if your people were white.

>>56582434
Russia, Caucasus and Turkey are Eurasian.
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>>56582047
Not Southersn definetly
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>>56582450
>(of which 9% are non-western origin mainly Turks, Moroccans, Antilleans, Surinamese and Indonesians
Largest group is non-muslim Indonesians

Muslims are about 4% of the Netherlands

>Islam in the Netherlands is the second largest religion in the country after various forms of Christianity, practiced by 4% of the population according to 2012 estimates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_Netherlands
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>>56582047
give balkans to and turkey to yellow, there red is now white
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>>56582505
Russia is a part of European and Christian world, turkey and caucasus aren't. Muslims can't be European.
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>>56582673
>Russia is a part of European and Christian world, turkey and caucasus aren't. Muslims can't be European

I consider muslims from Albania and Istanbul to be Europeans.
Russia is barely European.
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>>56582418
Spain and Italy are similar to Germs or Sweden? Have you seen the corruption rate in Italy or Spain? Why Reformation never triumphed in those countries?

And what do you mean by eastern european countries? Orthodox, Ruthenian, Slavic, Balkans occupied for centuries by Muslims?

You know that history didn't start in the XIXth century or even the XVIIIth century? And this is when this West/East division started to sink into peoples' minds because then modern historiography was created?

This division is inaccurate, who the hell knows which factors have been included here
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>>56582750
>I consider muslims from Albania and Istanbul to be Europeans.
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>>56582673
>Georgia isn't European and Christian
>Bosnians aren't muslims
>Albanians aren't muslims
>Iberia, Sicily and Balkans were not ruled for centuries by muslims
Most of Russian culture is Turkic and European, especially your food.
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>>56582505
>Caucasus and Turkey are Eurasian
What the fug, lol.
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>>56582673
Russia isn't a part of the european world if we understand proper Europe as the one which was influenced by Rome and greek philosophers
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>>56582211
>>56582340
>>56582353
The idea of "central Europe" has been invented by Eastern European countries like Poland and Czech, who desperately try to get rid of the stereotypes and try to associate themselves with Germany/Austria rather than Ukrain or Russia. In reality, there is no "central" Europe in any way.
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Left
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>>56582880
If Uralic speaking atheists like you are European, then natives who have been speaking an Indo-European language for many thousand years are,too. Most of the Balkans has a Turkish culture. Do you say that the Balkans isn't European? Istanbul has more people than most European countries.
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>>56582907
Part of Russia, Turkey, Georgia and Azerbaijan are in Europe.
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>>56582926
So what is the common trait that throughout history those "Eastern European" countries had?

What is the link between the Czechs and the Bulgarians, influenced by two different historical traditions?
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>>56582047
> more European
western
>and white
eastern
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>>56583014
>Uralic speaking
i speak finno-ugric and stop putting words into my mouth
also your attempt at reasoning is hilariously shit
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>>56583074
Communism and slav culture, retard. They are like 80% the same. Just like Netherland and Denmark are 80% the same, or Italy and Spain.
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>>56582076
>Greece should be yellow and it would be perfect western europe
no
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How come almost all the Dutch loathe slavs?

Did Poland invade Netherlands or something?
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>>56583194
>through out history
>communism
can you get anymore retarded?
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>>56582926
The late 20th century ruined the concept, but to say Mitteleuropa didn't exist in the 19th century shows a complete lack of historical knowledge. If Czechia wasn't communist we would have been a fully first world country (we were in the top 10 richest countries before WW2)
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>discussing turkey as a europe
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe
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>>56583221
Two words: self report
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>>56583171
Albanians speak an Indo-European language, you don't.
Turkey shaped 1/4 of Europe, you didn't.
All you did was being a part of Sweden or Russia for all of your history.
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>>56583194
Communism lasted less than a century even in Russia and effected each country differently. Also it was invented by jew from Germany who wanted slavs to be wiped out for supposedly betraying 1848 revolutions.

Hungarians, Estonians and Finns aren't even indo-europeans, how can they be clavic culturaly?
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>>56583374
>Indo-European language
>mentioned first in 13th century
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>>56583464
Just forget your butthurt for a while please.
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>>56583374
we didn't feel the need to shape anything, we have been quite happy living a simple life in these parts of europe since 10000BC

stop replying to me, i don't give a shit about your pseudo-history lessons and "relevancy"
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>>56583194
But what is exactly Slav culture? Is it Ruthenian (Ukraine, Belarus, Moscow) or Polish, Czech, Balkan countries?

Netherlands and Denmark may be 80% the same, but France, Spain, Italy in comparison with Germany or Sweden are quite different countries. Even Britain isn't like Germany

You're just living in the XIX century divisions, when the Slavdom was pretty much still dominated by Moscow, Turks or Austro-Hungarians
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Fuck them yellow side fags
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>>56582505
>The most numerous ethnic group in Europe.
>Euroasian
ok
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>>56583374
are you a t*rk of are you just so brainwashed by your german media that you actually defend the balkan shits? no real german would say balkan people are white or ""european"". when walking the streets balkanese guys look and act more like muslims from middle east than any european culture.
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>>56583526
>we didn't feel the need to shape anything
Because you couldn't do anything as a part of real countries. You are only Russian rapebabies.
>since 10000BC
top kek retard
>stop replying to me
Stop posting in my thread then.
>i don't give a shit about your pseudo-history lessons and "relevancy"
>gives me no sources and actually gives a shit by replying to me
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>>56583579
You know his answer wil be: "Poverty, backwardness, delusions of grandeur and leeching EU money off your betters such as myself."

Why do you bother?
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>>56583057
Nobody calls Caucasians Asians. Weird.
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>>56583725
> You are only Russian rapebabies.
look whos talking
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>>56583507
Stating a fact is now butthurt? Albanians today have minimal connection with ancient Illyrians. Not to mention other Balkan countries have just as much native Balkan admixture as Albanians.
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>>56583725
>top kek retard
laughing_archeologist.jpeg

is german education really so shit these days? or are you one of those niggers who call themselves the new germans?
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>>56583171
Finno-Ugric is a subgroup of Uralic you idiot
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>>56583725
>You are only Russian rapebabies.
Said real Russian rapebaby. We contacted very little with Balts even in Soviet times.
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>>56583725
>Russian rapebabies.
that is literally GERMANY the fucking rape capital of europe

we were just a tiny little part of a great empire, there was no raping you dumb fucking subhuman
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>>56583884
you shouldn't have raped German women that much. I feel bad for them
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>>56583875
and what does that mean? is there a language that is uralic? no, there is however a language that is called estonian, which i speak. people don't speak language groups, they speak languages.
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>>56583922
I doubt Russians raped them that much. If they did, average German woman wouldn't be 5/10.
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>>56583725
The only countries that shaped anything in Europe for several centuries were France and Britain
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>>56583665
Istanbul has more people than all the black countries. Make Holland and Romania black, too, if you count all Turks in the continent.
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>>56584003
oh they raped the shit out of them as revenge
the small girls, the women and the grandmothers, they were all filled with russian semen
no one likes to talk about that too much though for obvious reasons
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>>56583579
There's actually a lot of similarities in folk beliefs, customs, traditions and art between slavic nations preserved until the 19th century. You can look them up there's plenty written on the net. Of course each has been influenced by it's neighbours and their own historic development but nevertheless a lot of it is the same.
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>>56584071
Rapes are common in every war, not just ones fuelled by revenge. Americans raped a shittone of French women despite having no reasons like revenge.
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>>56582321
>Germanic > Latin/Greek
mjin fokken sides
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>>56582321
Western Europe is less than 85% white.
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>>56583960
>changing the subject
Proto-Indo-European doesn't exist any more either but it's still a meaningful category.
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>>56583808
They are special snowflakes who were always there.

>>56583825
There are thousands of papers which show that Albanian is related to Illyrian, but look at your post.

>Not to mention other Balkan countries have just as much native Balkan admixture as Albanians.
Albanians are European if Bosnian muslims are, too.
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>>56582422
Lol no

Muslims are 8% of the population as of 2012.
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>>56584049
Wouldn't it be easier to write ”0-15.000.000 black”? Why did they put the same colour 5 times?
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>>56584078
Ok I don't deny that there are similarities in them being Slavic, but what was the impact it had on the development of their countries?

Like what is so common about Bulgaria and Russia, given that Bulgaria was dominated by the Ottomans and couldn't even develop as a country?

It's just very shallow to say "a ha! These are Slavs, these are Germanics". Every state is much more complex, just compare Italy to Sweden
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What is even an european?
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>>56583894
>subhuman
edgy
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>>56582556
Disagree with Pew all you want, your cunt is 6% muslims or more.
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>>56584269
I made this map you stupid Gypsy.
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>>56584332
a country belonging to European continent
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>>56584159
but were they told to do so by their commanders?

>>56584333
>gets edgy as fuck calling others rapebabies
>gets called one himself, starts crying like a bitch
wow, you really are a russian offspring, pathetic hypocrite
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My country is like 90% white, so I can say it's a mix of both sides.
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>>56582047

W T F?????? WE ARE WEStERN
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>>56582750
>Albanians are european

European is an ethnic term. Not geographic
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if you judge by whiteness then visegrad 4 and Russia/Ukraine/Belarus/baltics/Finland are way whiter than balkans, balkan should be a 3rd category
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>>56582321
Anglo is Germanic you stoner
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>>56583014
>this horrible logic

Hello New German!
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>>56584403
What makes Albanians non-european?
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>>56584455
they are whiter than Spain/Portugal as well if you want to use that logic
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>>56583374
This is a Turk or diaspora bosniak
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>>56584403
Eurovision 2016 Australia
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>>56584399
western, no. northeastern, yes.
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>>56584524
i guess, whitest people in Europe are probably Finns though
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Does italy have a lot of Muslims?
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>>56584332
An ethnic term for the native people of Europe.

Most Albanians are not European in my view.
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slav butthurt at its finest
they post in between krokodil injections
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>>56584633
no but they have the biggest mosque in europe any way
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosque_of_Rome
>thank you saudi arabia
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>>56584383
No
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>>56584686
Yes
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>>56584302
>what is so common about Bulgaria and Russia
Like aside from the fact that half of their culture is ours/was copied from us? And then how we copied them in almost every manner in the 19th and 20th centuries.

>Bulgaria was dominated by the Ottomans and couldn't even develop as a country
You're missing some 7 important centuries of development before that.

>It's just very shallow to say...
Of course, you're right, but in the grand scheme of things and within the context of European dynamics they are grouped together for more than one reason. Also don't take this too seriously.
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>>56584669
This can't be happening!!
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>>56584475
Heavy turkic ancestry. Muslim. Strong supporters of the Ottomans.
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>>56584655
Krokodil has long been unpopular here
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this is how you do it. Yellow is what people think when they hear Europe, specially non-europeans
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>>56584701
It's an ethnic term for the native people of Europe.

Abdullah in Cologne from Syria is not European just because he is now in Germany.
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>>56584792
add Rome to that and remove Nordics
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>>56584792
So, two countries that literally made Europe are not European?
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>>56584792
Slovenia, Croatia, Greece and Cyprus should also be Southern Europe too.
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>>56584792
Where is the rest of your kingdom?
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>>56584792

What a retard.
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>>56584833
Abdullah is not but an Albanian from Albania is native European as far as I know. Turkey is not, I agree with that
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>>56584757
>Heavy turkic ancestry
no
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Albanians
>Studies in genetic anthropology show that the Albanians share the same ancestry as most other European people.

>Muslim
this is because of turkish conquest in 1450. If all albanians would convert to christianity, woulde we be europeans? And if someone for example from sweden would convert to islam, would that make them non-european? No?

>Strong supporters of the Ottomans.
No. If that was true we would still be a part of turkey today.
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>>56584965
srb za smrt
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>>56584904
lol this map is always different everytime it gets posted, this time greece has been colored grey
anyway, it is based on a faulty study by Moorjani with very poor methodology, you can find a good article on Dienekes which disproves it
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>>56584792
when people think Europe they generally think either Rome yes but they also think of Bavaria in Germany with all those beer fests and comfy buildings and all that, thats partly why refugees want so desperately to get to Germany
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>>56585179
I found it with google and the old map included 0,5%-1%, but this one starts from 1%.
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>>56584403
And also, what is an ethnic european?
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I wish Poland was an island. I mean the size as it is now but an island separated from ruskies and germs.

It would be so beautiful.
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>>56585587
same here, i wish balkan countires were islands with no immigration between them, then we'll stop being the asshole of europe where wars happen every 20 years and maybe even have good relations among each other
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>>56582774
HAHAHAHA
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>>56582926
here's the whole graphic
>>56582047
>turkey
>europe
are you being a cuck on purpose?
>germany
right
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>>56582132

No it's not mehmet.
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>>56582047
>Russia looks like a Polish flag
Hmm
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>>56582923
>>56582900
>>56582750
It was an obvious b8.
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>>56582047
more european yellow
the whitest (skin color only) red
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>>56584474
he's a turk
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>>56582047
Red side. At least from genetical point of view.
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>>56585421
something nonexistent tbqh pham
/int/ intellectuals with very high iq told me so
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this thread holy shit
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>>56582926
why would we want to associate with any of you loonies?
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>>56591452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxcP7TRY178
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>>56582923
>Russia wasn't influenced by Latin and Greek philosophers
nice memed pan Bolak
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>>56591746
but it's true.

Russia was always eastern and orthodox not latin.
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>>56591746
I can't speak about the Balkans and countries influenced by the Byzantine Empire and Orthodoxy, but it's very clear that the attitude towards state, freedom is different in Russia than in say Italy/France
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red minus turdkey
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>>56582321
> Yellow is 95% white
Lmao yellow is less than 80 % white in the people under 30. Face it you cucked yourself to native american status. Enjoy your infidel resorvations if the caliph is feeling generous.
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>>56582047
Right side as Uralics are Proto-Europeans
>There was no massive migration of Indo-European-languages-speaking population to north. There was only the so-called pioneer colonization of the Uralic-language- speaking area by Indo-European-language-speaking people. Northern Indo-European languages – Germanic, Baltic and Slavic – may be the result of a transition of Uralic or any other old Northern European-language-speaking population to an Indo-European language form. New speakers of the Indo-European language form spoke their new language poorly, with many phonetic and morphosyntactic mistakes. We can see these mistakes even today in the contemporary Germanic, Baltic and Slavic languages.
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>>56584231
>Proto-Indo-European doesn't exist any more either
It's more than likely it never existed tbqh familia, Altaic is more compact as a language family than Indo-European yet it's controversial while IE is widely accepted. That attests to just how hypocritical Indo-European linguists are. Then again, Indo-European historians also assume Scythians were Iranian based on a few interpretations of names and words by Greek philosophers.
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>>56582211
No such thing
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>>56582047
france
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>>56596863
>Altaic is more compact as a language family than Indo-European yet it's controversial while IE is widely accepted.

It happens because we have old and yet well-attested IE languages; mainly Greek, Latin and Sanskrit. With Altaic, there is nothing like that.
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>>56601530
HOL UP
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>>56582367

with due respect bro i dont get the distinction you make between eastern europe countries. is there even a difference between romania, bulgaria, hungary and poland? arent all of them like basically russia?
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>>56605423
>with due respect
>proceeds to have no fucking F at all
why even post?
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>>56582418
But you know that in terms of bloodline we both have more in common, than any of your western buddy?

Wait, does it makes you a slav?
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>>56605816
and you: necro-replying to posts from yesterday...

what do you think you are going to achieve? talk some sense into someone who is beyond the point of ignoramus maximus?
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>>56605935
Lol, this isn't some kind of rekt m4d forum with golden shovel prize. This thread is still alive m8.
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>>56606047
this thread was revived sadly yes, but you're replying to a post which was what? 9 hours ago?
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>>56584370
no need to be so rude mustafa
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>>56584884
hwy?
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>>56582505
Ethnic Russians (slavs) are Europeans you stupid German, and they make up about 80% of the population.
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>>56582047
Eastern Europe, Western Europe is a caliphate.
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