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>you will never ride on the steppes of Mongolia
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>>56518443
Asians used to be the most alpha men, but now...
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>>56518443
Finnland is right around the corner right?
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>>56518443
>tfw no steppe gf to get comfy with in our yurt while drinking yak milk
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Gengis Khan was indeed the alpha man.
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>>56518493


>man has hundreds of wives
>ghengis chad
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IM A TURBO MONGOL I RIDE TO WORK WITH MY HORSE AND SHOOT ARROWS MY EYES ARE SLANT MY SKIN IS YELLOW IM THE SON OF GENGHIS KHAN
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>>56518477

They have the Mongols, but no steppes sadly.
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>>56518489
What's the difference between her and a Chinese?
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>>56518530
fug :DDD
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>>56518472
>implying
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>>56518778

She is stronger.
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A BLUE WOLF TOOK AS HIS SPOUSE A FALLOW DOE
THEY SETTLED AT THE MOUTH OF THE ONON RIVER AND THERE WERE BORN THE MONGOLS
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>>56518443

I am glad that I'm not the only one who feels this.
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You can though, now's possibly your last chance before Mongolia completely urbanises for high paying Chinese investment jobs.
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>>56518530
Ogedai?
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>>56518861

The entire country needs to be protected by UNESCO and garrisoned by NATO.
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>>56518880
This is pretty much what Tim Cope is trying to do, probably the biggest Mongolboo since von Ungern-Sternberg.
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>>56518861
Mongolia will be developing pretty fast since they have no communism to hinder them and their average IQ is 103. After half a century under communism and a millennia living in those barren steppes they still manage to score more than Europeans in IQ tests.

>>56518443
Mongolia is a nice country and you can say that from the demographics. 3 million people on 1,5 million square km. Also, the weak, feeble people wouldn't be able to withstand such temperature variations, 80 degrees difference between summer and winter. But their population is growing rampant and roads will be developed faster than in Europe since they have no roads to replace and implicitly to destroy, only to build new ones.
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>>56518443
omg this is so racist, celebrating a mass murderer rapist

gib reparations mongolia
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>>56519027

It's not racist since they raped Europeans too.
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Is it still under construction?
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>>56519037
Exactly

My greatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreat grandmother was raped by a viking who's mother was raped by a slav who's mother was raped by a mongol

mongolia must pay me reparations, I am still living with the consequences of Mongolian barbarism
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>>56518443
>tfw I have seen the steppes of Mongolia
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>>56519068
Were they steep?
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>>56518443
>you will never be a large scale farmer in the mongolian plains
just kill me now
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If anybody is interested in Mongolian history I highly recommend Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast on the Mongols, those Mongols were badass as fuck.

>You will never master the art of riding on horse back while shooting your enemy with a 100+ pound bow in reverse
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>>56519083
Nah, pretty flat for the most part. At least the ones I saw. It's a huge country so I'm sure there's plenty of stuff I missed.
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>>56519068
did you pick up the bottle on the ground?
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>>56519102
>Carlin's Chinese history teacher still mad as fuck about the Yuan.

Made me kek.
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>>56519117
I didn't go there to collect garbage. That was the cleanest angle I could find, I was surprised and saddened by how much garbage there was in the open nature. Mongolians just throw anything out and leave it there.
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>>56519102
The bow isn't 100lbs the draw weight is
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>>56519143
Thanks, that's what I meant.
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>>56519102
>100 pound bow
Is that a catapult?
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Why is it so sparsely populated?
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>>56519170
Yeah, 100 pounds is pretty stiff. I got my bow at 30 pounds for pull. 50 is most anyone need.
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>>56519102
>100+ pound bow

>tfw you catch an Aussie shitposter in a dumb 'mistake' and want to roast him
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>>56519203
>>56519165
>>56519170
>>56519143
>>56519207

That's how you describe bows though.
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>>56518443
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>>56519226
Right, but you'd never find a 100 pound draw bow.
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OK OK THE SHITPOSTER FUCKED UP JESUS NOW RELAX YA FLAPS
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>>56519255
100 is pretty standard for high power bows, they go up to 200 for the ridiculous ones.
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>>56519300
Who on earth can lift 60 kilos while trying to aim as well? I can barely lift 25 kilos with my both hands, let alone trying to aim as well. I am no manlet, I am taller than the average Mongolian (almost 180 cm).
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>>56519383
>I can barely lift 25 kilos with my both hands
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THE GOLDEN HORDE IS COMING
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>>56519383
Draw weight is the power needed to draw the string back as far as it can go, not the weight of the bow.
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>>56519415
What have I said wrong? It is a toil for me to carry a pail of water if it weighs 25-30 kilos. I wasn't born for that as it seems.
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>>56518443
>wide open grassy space
>massive sky country
>fresh water and air
>very little light pollution so you can see the galaxy really well at night
>wild herds of endangered bactrian camels and rare saiga antelope
>cool looking flag
>neat throatsinging music

So beautiful. I want to go there and live in a Yurt where nobody will bother me. 8 Lakes National Park in Mongolia is supposed to be beautiful.
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>It is a toil for me to carry a pail of water if it weighs 25-30 kilos.
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN?
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>>56519453
I understood that. But isn't it similar to the force you need to execute in order to lift a 60 kg object?
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>>56518443
What the fuck are you talking about, you can literally do that right now
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>>56518808
Singapore a shit, very third world.
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Fun fact! Mongolia has sent one astronaut into space to visit aboard the International Space Station. That's one more astronaut than Portugal!
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>>56519489
Don't listen to them Romanian man
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>>56519488
Are those stars on your flag white?
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The steppe isn't good enough land for a ton of urbanization. Calm your fucking tits. You can't grow shit there either so don't worry about commercial farming.
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>>56519546
no
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>>56519489
Probably a bit easier but 100lb bows are incredibly hard to use unless you've trained a lot.
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>>56518778
LEGS
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I feel like there's a dragon or something hiding in these mountains. Would adventure through/10
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>>56519300
>100 is pretty standard for high power bows
no it isn't
80 lbs is the upper range of high powered bows used by sane people
100 lbs and able to strike a bullseye is pretty fucking remarkable. you actually have to be really good at archery to do this. you can't just get ripper and aim a bow at a target and be all "yo I be the internet king og archery :DD"
t. faggot who used to do archery
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>>56519561
Mongolia is heavily involved in mining though, and much of the younger generation are leaving their traditional lives for work in Ulanbator, a common theme these days.
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>>56518778
chinese women are inbred smog-breathing plastic surgery looking polluted pieces of shit
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>>56519668
That's not very nice.
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>>56519658
Britbongs used to use 100lb bows all the time, they were absolute madmen though.
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>>56519027
>>56519065
https://khabaristantimes.com/world/asia-eastern-europe-coalition-demands-reparations-from-mongolia/
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>>56519630
I don't see myself lifting a 30 kg object without sweating, let alone aiming. But if I were to live in the dark medieval times probably I would be more physically capable.
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"The Russian heads fell beneath the swords of the Tatars as grass beneath the scythe." -- Novgorodian Chronicles, 1238 a.d.

We miss the Mongols. We need to talk to them.

We go to the steppes, but they don't seem to be home.

We need them, because they were the only nuclear power before the twentieth century. They were not human, as we, after 1945, are not human--much though we try to be, cowards that we are.

The Mongols are our only ancestors. What little we know about them is charged with a terrible and beautiful alienness.

They poured molten silver in the eyes and ears of traitors--a visual joke.

They could be compassionate: when Genghiz Khan captured Jamukha, his closest friend, he did Jamukha the honor of killing him by rolling him up in a carpet and crushing him with boulders, so that the blood would remain in the body.

They had their own sense of righteousness: when the small Slavic town of Kozelsk, near Kaluga, resisted them for months, they dubbed it "the wicked town." So upset were they with the scandalous behavior of Kozelsk that they not only killed all the inhabitants (which went without saying), but drowned the child-prince, Vladimir, in human blood. That'll teach'em to be wicked!

Only water could stop them. Only two of their campaigns failed: the attacks on Java and Japan. The Mongols were inland creatures--centaurs, four-legged archers; they had to rely on mere humans to transport them across the sea. Like witches, they lost something of their power when crossing water. The Japanese were saved twice: once by a lucky typhoon, the kamikaze or holy wind invoked by suicide bombers in the last stages of WW II, and once by the confusion among the Mongols as they tried to disembark: the Samurai attacked and destroyed the invaders before they could mount their ponies.
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>>56519754
>I don't see myself lifting a 30 kg object without sweating
>>>/fit/
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>>56519765

Once on the pony, bow in play, the Mongols were invulnerable; they danced just at the edge of bow-range, dispatching humans until it was time to go among the dead and collect one's arrows, burn the villages and move on to the next days work of planet-cleansing.

When the Russians first encountered the Mongols, it happened the way the Tasmanian Devil appears in a Looney Toons cartoon: first all the animals in the forest come rushing past, fleeing together, lion and rabbit and squirrel no longer afraid of each other, sharing the far greater terror of what's behind them. Then the Devil himself appears.

It was their old enemies the Polovtsi, who warned the thirteenth-century Russian princes of the Mongols. The Polovtsi came to beg the Russians' help against this new terror from the East. The Polovtsi explained things simply: "They have taken our country; tomorrow they will take yours." The Southern Russian princes, for once, behaved sensibly--at first. They acknowledged their common peril and formed an alliance among themselves and with the hated Polovtsi against the Mongols.

The Mongols appeared, quiet and uncanny, to make the Russians another offer. Their ambassadors said "We have come against our slaves and grooms, the accursed Polovtsi. [The Mongols always thought in horsey terms. "slave" equals "groom."] We have no quarrel with you; be at peace with us." Rarely did the Mongols give anyone a chance like that. And, just like the last of the reckless Russian princes, Nicholas II when the Germans warned him not to destroy his people on behalf of the French, the Russian princes chose not to listen. A foolhardy chivalry ruled them from the moment they took the non-career-enhancing step of murdering the Mongol envoys.
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>This will never be me
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>>56519789
he's a big guy
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>>56519784

But they still could have won, if they hadn't been ruled by the same suicidal chivalrous recklessness. For once, all the princes of Southern Russia were united. They made a huge and formidable army, which advanced into the steppes in 1224 to find the Tatar horde. Encountering the Mongols on the Kalka, near the sea of Azov, the princes' cavalry charged without even informing the Kievans who made the bulk of the army. They were destroyed; then the Mongols went about methodically destroying the disorganized Kievan forces. At least 10,000 Kievans died, and the Southern Russian forces were broken. The surviving princelings reverted to form, making private deals with the Mongols--but the Mongols, faced with such "wickedness," were not in a generous mood any longer. Mstislaf, Prince of Kiev, was holed up in a fortified camp on the Kalka. The Mongols offered him his, his sons' and his retainers' lives if they surrendered. They did; the Mongols massacred the garrison and then crushed the Prince and his two sons-in-law under planks. In the Slavic view, this was a refinement of cruel treachery; but the Mongols thought in their own, very alien and idiosyncratic ways. To them, this might have been an honorable death, which kept the blood in the body--and to them, the blood was the life.

The Southern Russian princes had come close to organized resistance; the Northern princes, terrified, could not unite and were wiped out one by one. After a ten-year quiet which was almost as terrifying as the first onslaught (the Mongols had gone home to attend the coronation of Ogodai as Genghiz's successor), they returned, annihilating the Bulgars, another former enemy of Russia, then turned on the Northern princes.
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>>56519789
KHAN'D
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>>56519812

The next century was smoke, blood, disaster. The only stories the Russians could use to console themselves were of the sort conquered people always tell: grand defiance, magnificent gestures which have no hope of altering the fact of defeat. The Princes of Ryazan, marching out to meet certain death, were offered a deal by the Mongols: "If you want peace, give us a tenth of your wealth." The folk tales have the princes saying in grand disdain, "When we are dead, you may have the whole." The Mongols' reply, not recorded, would have been something on the order of, "OK; thanks!"

When Fyodor of Ryazan had died in due course, his wife, Euphrasia, followed the practice of virtuous wives, choosing to leap from the terem (harem) rather than face the fate worse than death. There's no proof she did so; these stories are the only way the defeated humans could go on living under alien rule.

The Russians gleaned from the great disaster only the bitter consolation prizes of defeated peoples, above all the right to explain what went wrong, whatever went wrong, as legacy of "the Mongol yoke." It's easy for Westerners to mock this sort of grand version of "I had a bad childhood," but it's even harder to imagine Voltaire and Hume springing up on soil that had felt the Mongol ponies' hooves. They were good enough reason to explain many things, above all disappearances and vanishings..

The Mongols specialized in vanishing and making vanish. They didn't build cities, they erased them. Karakorum, the Mongols' one attempt to build a capital city, is a rectangle of mud walls now. The Mongols' greatest memorials are negative: huge blank spots on the map. Eastern Iran, once a populous, irrigated land, is a blank now, courtesy of the Mongol cleaners. They erased the cities and, far more devastatingly, the irrigation systems. Humans breed like cockroaches, and will always repopulate plundered cities--but if you smash their water supply, they can't come back.
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>>56519765
>>56519784
>>56519812
fucking Rohirrim

>>56519801
4tengri
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>>56519840

But the one quality which sets them apart from every other tribe is their utter, superhuman immunity to the God-virus. The Mongol attitude to religion was wholly alien. They found the religions of the conquered humans handy, to keep the livestock under control, but could see no difference between the various superstitions and were equally sardonic about all of them. They cared no more about the beliefs of their subjects than a farmer cares what his dairy cattle think about reincarnation. It's true that Genghiz disliked Muslims perhaps more than subjects of other cults, but only because the Khan's armies encountered more opposition from the Muslims, while the Christians, far weaker in Central Asia, were mostly preachers--entertainers on dull nights after a day of erasing villages.

No human tribe has ever managed to keep from catching the God virus-but then, the Mongols were not human. All the survivors agreed on that. An Armenian priest describes them:

"They were terrible to look at and indescribable, with large heads like a Buffalo, narrow eyes like a baby bird, a snub nose like a cat, big snouts like a dog, narrow waists like an ant, and short legs like a hog. They are as strong as lions but as shrill-voiced as hawks....They bear huge litters like snakes and eat like wolves. Death does not appear among them, for they live 300 years. They do not eat bread at all."

A science-fiction writer wisely said, "The thing about aliens is--they're ALIEN." You can't understand them. You never will. That's true of the Mongols: they were so unlike the people who "eat bread" that chroniclers can only describe them by resorting to a whole zoo of analogies, like the Armenian does: they were like ants, lions, snakes, birds, dogs...everything but human. The Mongols referred to themselves as a "swarm of birds"; they flew, while the humans trudged. The humans said the same: "The Mongols appear where least expected," coming and going like a wry, lethal God.
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>>56519843
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>>56519782
My place is not amongst those jocks.

>>56519789
prkl
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>>56519877

The Khans claimed to be the descendants of a she-wolf. They tinkered with humans; they played. When Ogotai, son of Genghiz Khan, captured North China, his lieutenants suggested that the human population be erased, because all these walls--the houses and palaces and cities which were no more to the Mongols than termite mounds--spoiled what could have been good pasture. The Khan considered it, but decided as a matter of policy that those bipeds could be useful. And it would have been a lot of work to erase them, because there were at least twenty million people in North China. He let them live. That's why China is not pasture today.

In Iran, the Mongols chose to erase the human population: that's why much of Iran is desert today.

And that's why we need to talk to the Khans now: because they are the only people before the invention of nuclear weapons to have treated the world as a garden to be pruned as they chose. We need to compare notes with Genghiz and Kublai Khan, with Subotai and Ogodai. But it's difficult, because the Mongols are coming into fashion and becoming extinct.

The two processes are linked: extinction first, then fashionability.

The missionaries are in charge of the actual extinction. As the eXile's inimitable War Nerd recently pointed out, the missionaries are the military wing of Christianity, the real stormtroubadors. They are busily infecting the Mongols now. Mongolia is converting to Christianity faster than any other country in the world. Some reports say the whole population will be Christian in ten years. Plump white folks from Nebraska and Texas are fanning out over the steppes in expensive new Toyota Landcruisers, visiting the most remote herders' tents to breathe the God-virus on them. And these Mongols, the shy remnant, lack the Khans' immunity to the God-virus; they're succumbing to it instantly.
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>>56519901

For the herders, the switch from Buddha and the shamans to Jesus is simple: Jesus brings stuff every time his followers come by, while Buddha never brought anything. The old Buddhist monks just sat in their lamaseries, chanting; the Christian missionaries, these inexplicable white people in vehicles worth more than most Mongolian towns, drop off blankets and pots every time they come by. And the shamans' drums don't work as well as the drugs the plump visitors bring.

So the Mongols are finished. Already they've descended to human; soon they'll be churchgoing stooges--less than human. Ten years from now they'll all be in cheap suits, singing Come to Jesus in the key of C and studying accounting at Oral Roberts U.. Then the Khans will really be gone.

The most grotesque aspect of the whole thing is that Hollywood is going Buddhist/shamanistic as quickly as the Gobi is going Christian, so that in a decade the Dalai Lama may build a new, Lhasa-style palace overlooking the HOLLYWOOD sign while Pat Robertson powers his wheelchair up the ramp of a brand-new Jesusarium & Bible College built on the ruins of Genghiz's capital.

Somehow, though, it's not a fair exchange. Hollywood Mongols just wouldn't be very good. Hollywood has never done the Mongols very well. John Wayne actually played Genghiz in a movie called The Conqueror, but I've heard it was one of the worst movies ever. Didn't see it myself; I don't go in for camp, especially about serious matters.

But it's foolish, I guess, whining about the extinction of the Mongols, when all the warrior peoples are being phased out, along with the big cats and other remaining predators. In the cubicle world, no predators are allowed--not without ties'n'smiles. Dress code.
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>>56519923

But don't worry, we'll mourn'em as we kill them off. Just like the Brits mourned the Highlanders, once they were wiped out. Just like the Americans mourned the Sioux once they were erased. Just as, when the last wolf in the lower 48 was shot, wolf posters started appearing in every sensitive kid's bedroom. The wolf-cult is big now; CDs of wolf-howls sell almost as big as humpback whale songs, and there's a whole subgenre of New Age music in which wolf howls are tracked over bad jazz, for meditation soundtracks. We love 'em, once they're gone.

That's why the camera crews are fanning out across the steppes right now, along with the missionaries. The missionaries are the kill-teams; the moviemakers are there to make videos of the death, like the ones perky office-workers with colon cancer make of their last weeks on Earth, the kind shown at those new-style cheery funerals so popular these days.

Julia Roberts just did a documentary about her stay with a family of Mongol herders, who were presented as friendly, kindly, and a bit dim. Nothing to fear, or interest, any one.

The Russians go a little further, of course, toward the thing we really like about Mongols: so, in the quasi-Russian film Urga, a poor Mongol herder dreams he meets Genghiz Khan, the "Oceanic Ruler," himself. The modern Mongol comes face to face with the Khan's entourage, and is ashamed to be seen as he is: unarmed, harmless, ripe for infection with the Christian virus.
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>>56518443
Finland isn't that far away.
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I'm at a juncture in my life and want to live in Mongolia for a while. How do I Mongolia /int/? Are there even any jobs there worth having form an American like me? I suppose if I learned the language I could be an interpreter.
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>>56519945

The modern Mongol, dim and affable--nobody except the missionaries really wants THAT Mongol. What the rest of us dream of is the Khan's horde: the black arrow that swept across Eurasia like a hundred-mile wide cropduster, leaving utter silence in its wake. Every boy who came on the Mongols in the "M" volume of the encyclopedia slobbered over those black arrows on the map, placed the flat of his hand over them and moved it forward following the path of the Horde, making little hissing noises as he imagined the progress of Death incarnate.

For centuries the wilder Europeans have been making the black pilgrimage to Central Asia, trying to find THOSE Mongols. They never find anything but the shy, polite herders--Julia Roberts' gracious hosts.

Last year I saw a five-hour documentary by some German woman who followed a group of yak-herders around the steppes. The Mongols were very quiet: the only sound for most of the five hours was the yak-bells clanging. The herders smiled embarrassedly, aware that they were somehow unsatisfactory. There was a festival with wrestling, and long shots of people crunching in frozen mud--but the Mongols we all want to see were not in evidence.

And they're not to be found. The Western Khanates were absorbed by the Islam they had done so much to destroy, and subsided into feebleness, so that their Russian vassals began pushing south and east, taking back what had been lost and more. The herders, and their decadent little rulers, were all there was to be found. No one to hold to account; no one who even remembered the days before these beings who had been something more, less, other than human became mere people.
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>>56519967
If you have a decent education you can try applying in the US embassy there, there probably aren't many applicants.
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>>56519968
>these beings who had been something more, less, other than human became mere people.
Yeah I like romanticising dumb shit too.
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>>56519141
You shouldn't expect them to carry it around with them now. I mean, where do you think the nearest fucking trashcan is?
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>>56519203
You need it at 40lbs to hunt other wise is cruel to animals
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Don't we have a Mongolian anon here?
He should be at work about now desu
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>>56520422
how do you know he/she/xhe is male, shitlord?
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>>56520422
I always thought that was a proxy
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Been to Mongolia and the women are hideous desu
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>>56518443
Good, fuck the wind
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>>56520422
There's also the Mongol bloke working in Khazakhstan atm.
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>>56518961
>IQ
Kill yourself
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>>56520571
>he doesn't know the transcendent joy of sitting in a silent desolate landscape, listening to nothing but the subtle hum of wind, snad, and grass

sucks to be you
t. southwestern knower
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>>56520655
>wind in mongolia
>subtle

I would go if I had about 5 pounds of chapstick and 10 gallons of eyedrops
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>>56520562
I've been told faggotry is haram in Mongolia.

Ugly women, no homo allowed... No wonder many Mongols are leaving.
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>>56520641
>catholic Serbs in charge of having a normal argument

>>56520422
I spoke with him two times. He's been here for a while, be posts weekly or even daily.

>>56520432
I know that, he is 18 year old college student and has been on 4chan for 3 years. I highly believe he posted the Mongolian burger king as well.
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>>56518443
Jesus Christ think about how many goofy religions would pop up after the apocalypse, with all these giant statues lying around in random ass places
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>want to watch a documentary about mongolia
>"look at these poor farmers working so hard"
>"look at the climate changing because bad industrialism"
>"look at their lives are tied with nature and modern man is destroying it"
God fucking damnit, its impossible to find a simple documentary following a simple guy living his life and not crying 24/7 about how modern world is destroying it all. White hatred is fucking real.
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>>56521401
We have enough literature and various other mediums to elaborate on a lot of things in our culture. It'd be harder to explain more obscure things like.. memes. Some people might actually take them seriously.
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>>56518472
mongolian men are still alpha
>>56519789
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>>56519789
he is a kazakh actor
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>>56518443
I might eventually
the steppe is still mostly untouched

I have a few mongolia pics
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>>56519789
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>>56519754
you fucking poof
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>tfw your mongol blood yearns for that but your country is just forests and lakes
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>>56520115
at least they could bury the trash
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>all these people saying Mongolia is clean
I have a hard time being China's neighbor brings no consequences
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/int/ expedition to mongolia when

thinking like a month long trek minimum
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>>56521914
it's apparently pretty good but mining industry is moving in and fucking it up

think some Australian companies have stakes there
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>>56521892

One day my fellow mongol
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>enter thread expecting massive throatposting
>nothing
Off yourselves right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_5yt5IX38I
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can't wait for mountain blade 2 desu

want to raise my horse army and conquer
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>>56526115

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4zm9L4rIGw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeXG9-wyzw0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLM3ii4nVMU
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>>56526140
Why I like this so much? It gives me goosebumps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uYJLd-04s4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lnxs_DMUDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3encA6KYQUI
.
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>>56526195
10/10
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>>56526315

nice taste f.am

try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1PH0Ob946I
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gztGzNljqW4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl9XUzd9GrM
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>>56526408
Amazing tbqh 10/10. Thanks, I didn't know them.
>>56526529
Total war games usually have amazing osts, aside from Rome 2.
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