Germany """LOST"""" WW2
Lol.
We all know who the real winner here is
Syrians.
>Chiang Kai-shek
>allies
Love this meme.
>whole world against one country in central europe with irrelevant allies who didn't really achieve anything or made things even worse
Allies were pathetic cucks. One on one Germs would have easily beaten anyone.
>>56449271
I believe we beat them "one-on-one" when they tried to invade the UK :^)
The Jews?
glorious soviet zerg rush!
>>56449486
>brit doesnt know they would btfo if their murican bastards didnt come to help
>>56449271
gotta agree
the efficiency and professionalism of the german army is amazing
> muh kdr
I'm pretty sure that tought was going through a wehrmacht soldier's head as he was watching his daughter get raped by ~5 soviet liberators in the ruins of his magnificent haupstadt germania
>>56449533
where was ur grandfather?
>>56449560
>Turkey
>literally an overgrown chicken
>>56449560
Americans didn't help us militarily when they invaded ya fucking retard
>>56449606
when did germany invade?
i thought it was just an air battle
>>56449606
>bombing your worthless island
>invasion
>>56449089
Fugging zerg.
damn slavs and chinks ruining my k/d
>>56449634
>>56449647
Well they couldn't gain air superiority so they couldn't invade :^)
>>56449560
There was no help from the Americans until after the Germans gave up on us
>>56449735
No military help.
>>56449735
So why were axis winning untill murica joined the party?
>>56449814
America joined just to get a piece of europe in future
>>56449814
America was literally irrelevant to the European theater of WW2
>>56449089
>We all know who the real winner here is
Italy?
>>56449560
>Cockroach education
>>56449715
You do know that the zerg rush thing is a meme, right ?
>>56449907
>switch sides
>win
Hey, guess we won too! Lapland war 1945, neva foget!
>>56449907
This.
The only country that keep winning from 40 to 45
>>56449961
Well couldnt even beat us, so, i dont see how would they get hitler.
Anyways, i wish hitler didnt attack west and east at the same time, just because i want to see ugly brits get german'd
>>56449892
Really? You think britcucks without americans could have liberated your country after D-Day? I don't think so. Without american intervention, soviets would have advanced all the way to Paris.
And lets not forget that massive american lend lease to soviets during the war, which literally saved their asses from Germany.
>>56450175
When the Soviets conquered Germany the French could have liberated themselves
>>56449560
Turkbro knows what's up.
>>56450011
>>56450011
>switch sides
You mad you don't have this sweet racial perk?
>>56450175
they didn't liberate us, they came to france to try and split it into an american/english colony
>>56450264
t. Turk
:3
>>56449606
>w-we didn't get any lend lease help from america, honest
>w-we didn't have to beg for obsolete warships from america
>>56450328
But he is right, britshit.
>>56450261
But with probably much greater pain, and we would have ended up another SSR.
Which would be the basis for big alternative history : imagine the Cold War with only the US + England vs France, all of Germany, + the Commie Bloc
>>56449089
The eternal Anglo, of course, was the only winner
>>56450264
pls germans and italians got btfo by brits in north/east africa without american help up until tunisia (where americans were literally useless and got btfo themselves).
>>56449089
>civilian dead: over 45000000
Germs and Japs are fucking savages, nothing new here. Especially, Japs. USA did a good job nuking these slant-eyed bloodthirsty bastards.
>>56449089
>Less casualties means they won
That's why there's such a strong fascist influence all around the world now, right?
>>56450353
No need for swearing here, friend.
>>56450344
I said militarily
>>56450459
>getting massive amounts supplies and warships
>not military help
>>56450499
military as in them sending soldiers
>>56449089
>tfw Canada left ww2 with the 3rd largest navy in the world
>nowadays, its fucking pathetic
ree
more like merica pls halp :(
>in some universe America never joined and Germany steamrolled all of Europe
>>56450707
America was irrelevant to the defeat of Germany, the problem was Russia
>>56450707
That universe would imply Hitler wasn't a totally shitty commander, which is a universal constant.
>>56449647
1940's
>britain
>worthless island
>worthless
>worth
>less
>w
>l
>>56449486
Reminder that the Brits did not win a single land based campaign against Germany until the USA joined the allies.
>le soviets could have won germany alone meme
American Lend Lease to soviets
>427,284 trucks
>13,303 combat vehicles
>35,170 motorcycles
>2,328 ordnance service vehicles
>2,670,371 tons of petroleum products
>4,478,116 tons of foodstuffs
>1,900 steam locomotives, 66 Diesel locomotives, 9,920 flat cars, 1,000 dump cars, 120 tank cars, and 35 heavy machinery cars
British deliveries to soviets
>3,000+ Hurricanes
>4,000+ other aircraft
>27 naval vessels
>5,218 tanks
>5,000+ anti-tank guns
>4,020 ambulances and trucks
>323 machinery trucks
>2,560 Universal Carriers
>1,721 motorcycles
>600 radar and sonar sets
>Hundreds of naval guns
>15 million pairs of boots
lmao
>>56450960
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Desert_Campaign
Uhh it's obviously Israel
>>56450764
says the country that rolled over in two seconds
>>56450789
what he said:>>56451057
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease#US_deliveries_to_the_USSR
>>56451078
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Desert_Campaign
And when exactly did you achieve victory? Not in 1940 or 1941 buddy.
Maybe I should spell it out for you once again.
>until the USA joind the allies
Back to school with ya.
>>56449089
Especially if you look how it turned out in the long run...
>>56451223
>implying Americans did anything relevant in the African campaigns besides supplying brits with tanks
>>56451057
imagine the possibilities if Mannerheim didn't want to be a nice guy and actually ordered Murmansk railway cut
>>56451303
Yes, all over the course of war your country was depending on americans supplying you.
>>56449089
E M U
M
U
Blame Russia and their horde-like movements
>>56451303
>unable to refute point
>posts a trashman picture instead
So this is the great British debating "skill" people are talking about. Bravo!
>>56451409
>le i won another argument on 4chan mummy
>>56451355
And the colonies, God bless them.
>>56451200
You rolled over Germany when it was on its knees already
The war would of course had been (even) bloodier if America/Britain didn't intervene at all, but that's a very stretchy alt-his scenario
What if Stalin didn't purge the Red Army ?
What if there hadn't been a German-Soviet Pact ?
Etc, etc...
>>56449089
Was close to pyrrhic victory, but victory is still victory.
>>56451468
You're the one acting all butthurt lassie. Perhaps if you didn't "forget" all your materiel at Dunkirk you might've been more justified for acting smug.
>>56449089
>Germany """LOST"""" WW2
Pretty much.
They are forever cucks to Jews now.
Just like how Australia lost Emu war. Sure you killed more emus, but now emus will fuck you FOREVER.
>>56451468
Are Brits always this butthurt when losing an argument? Perhaps if you didn't forget all your materiel at Dunkirk your pride might've been more justified.
>>56451724
>World GPB in the year of our Lord 1
It's the worst meme I've ever seen
Worst, the drop of Germany is explained by the rise of China, not the Jews or anything
>>56451781
Yeah, blame 4chan for not working properly. When it still didn't appear after 3 minutes I decided to post the same reply again considering other people's replies were showing.
No need to post out the obvious samefag though lassie.
>>56450011
We basically got away with a slap on the wrist tbqh, the ""Empire"" was barely a thing anyway.
I think the Brits overall lost much more in that regard.
>>56451932
>We basically got away with a slap on the wrist tbqh, the ""Empire"" was barely a thing anyway.
I think the Brits overall lost much more in that regard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marocchinate
>>56449089
Number of casualties is irrelevant, what matters is whether the final goal was met or not.
>>56449594
Mine was at the Battle of Moscow, got wounded and was handicapped ever since
>>56450414
I love you
>>56450707
In that universe the Soviet borders would end at the shores of France and Portugal
>>56451057
Those numbers are irrelevant compared to the entire stockpile of the USSR.
>>56451230
And later that day, the old German went home only to find his granddaughter being fucked by three sandniggers
>>56452030
>le slavic russian jew
Opinion disgarded
>>56451724
terrible bait chart lol
total gdp means nothing, especially considering europe essentially controlled china and india
>>56452085
>le frozen Mongol
Opinion disgarded
>>56452018
Oh well that is bound to happen with niggers, but overall your nation as a whole lost more in terms of power. You basically lost your global power and gave the keys to the US.
>>56452147
>oy vey you're not even white goy
like clockwork the kike comes out
>>56451327
You would have been liberated in 1944 and become Finnish SSR.
>>56452415
Come closer and something else will come out, baby ;^)
>>56449089
If K/D was what determined who won a war then we won Vietnam and Germany won WW1
>>56451814
>the drop of Germany is explained by the rise of China
Drop of Germany (and the rest of the Europeans) is explained by you guys being dumb arrogant little kids who pretty much had the world in their grasp and decided to squander it away in your stupid little wars that end up fucking yourselves over.
>>56452499
>>56449892
You are retarded. Without American money and industrial might the Soviets would have fallen and Germany would outlast Britian assuming the US doesn't do D-Day either.
>>56449089
>soviet Union
>superpower
>>56452704
Majority of lend-lease arrived post-Stalingrad.
Also a number of american companies operated in Germany with the permission of USA government.
Without USA existing USSR would have won the war faster and easer.
>>56452884
>Without USA existing USSR would have won the war faster and easer.
You should be more grateful that we keep dying for you guys and that we're pretty much happy to do it - mostly because it's just the goddamn right thing to do. Seriously, not even memeing.
>>56452884
Of course most lend-lease came after Stalingrad because Stalingrad was fucking halfway through the entire war and we joined 1/3rd of the way through.
You still would have had failed without our shit at one point or another assuming no D-day. You just didn't have enough shit.
>>56452030
>And later that day, the old German went home only to find his granddaughter being fucked by three sandniggers
Mashallah!
>>56452884
>Without USA existing USSR would have won the war faster and easer.
To be fair you would have.
It took you about 60+ years to admit communism was wrong and "win" the cold war.
Losing to the nazis it would cut that down by 40+ years.
>>56452030
>And later that day, the old German went home only to find his granddaughter being fucked by three sandniggers
Well memed, my friend.
But on a more serious note: their own fault for not slapping the shit out of their kids and letting them become fucking green/leftist faggots.
>>56453446
>You still would have had failed without our shit at one point or another assuming no D-day. You just didn't have enough shit.
But Soviet Union stopped German offensive, reorganised their armies and started the counteroffense themselves against now much weaker Germany which now doesn't have element of surprise. Why would they suddenly stop winning and started losing, if they were getting stronger every day while their opponents were getting weaker?
>be European
>get your continent destroyed by Germans thrice in a century
>>56452141
>europe essentially controlled china and india
>India
Graph shows each country's GDP not the empires. GDP was never calculated with colonies included (you should know, you were a colony)
>china
Britain had the largest holdings of all the Europeans and the area of holdings was about the size of London.
Saying Britain "owned" China because of Hong Kong like saying Canada is "owned" by China if the took Vancouver alone.
>>56450344
>Finnish reading comprehension
>>56454037
>>be European
>>get your continent destroyed by Germans thrice in a century
> Be Japanese
> Get fuckined nuked
>>56449089
>the real winner
>>56451057
>Lend-Lease would help the British and Allied forces win the battles of future years; the help it gave in the battles of 1941 was trivial.[22]
Russia won the war at Moscow in December 1941. Lend lease didn't arrive in significant quantities until late 1942.
Russia would not have defeated Germany without us, but Russia would not have lost to Germany without us either.
>>56454037
>be japanese
>have no idea what a history book is
>"hey I think these Germans can win! It's a safe bet, the Germans never lose anything! They definitely have never lost a war in... forever or anything! They always win!!
>Germans lose
>Your 2000 year old country's culture gets killed
>whoops lol who could have predicted that?
Leave strength and fighting to whites tojo, you just don't have what it takes to win.
>>56454037
>be Japanese
>brutally occupy half of Asia for 50 years
>say dindunuffin
>wonder why you're disliked
>>56449233
chinks did literally less than the frogs, yet they still got counted as ""winners""
>>56449907
We should've learned from you all along.
>>56455354
The thing is, the adopted son of CKS was a commander in the German army and CKS reached a sor of agreement with the Japs to fight Meme Hig testoung
>>56455354
How so? China never surrendered and fought millions of Japanese troops while France surrendered less than a month after German troops touched French soil.
>>56455791
history according to american.txt
>>56455791
How many Chinese died during WWII again?
>>56458103
Less than soviets, but more than just about everyone else.
>>56455354
China did fight. Their war with the Japs started before the European wars started too.
They were also fighting a civil war between themselves until the Japs attacked and the proceeded into a psuedo-truce.
>>56455975
Said some ignorant kid in country that surrendered about the your ally that didn't.
If your grandfathers heard that they would smack the shit out of you.
France the nation surrendered, but anyone who calls the French people cowards are as stupid as you saying the Chinese didn't fight.
>>56449089
Does anybody have the casualities and losses thing of the british empire?
>>56458704
t. zhang
>>56459254
>t.muhammad
It's gold-lopez-stein btw.
This thread triggers Americucks
>exterminate millions for muh Aryans
>20% of the population is foreign in 2016
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>56454181
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation
>>56449486
It was the water around your incest island that protected you.
>>56450381
The brits in North Africa got tanks sent from America which they preferred over their own for being pretty much obsolete. Without proper tanks, no North African victory.
That's help.
>>56459767
>spheres of influence
>colony
Cool, didn't know USA colonized all of western Europe.
I mean we had a few bases, soldiers in them, and had """"""influence"""""".
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_of_humiliation
Please try to stay on topic.
I give 0 fucks about that.
Humiliation =/= colonization
Best tank ever.
Fast, maneuverable, can penetrate a Tiger, cheap, cute. Not very comfy though.
>>56460517
You just proved that you either know nothing or are simply baiting.
Just in case it's the former, you should do some reading. Start here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphere_of_influence
>>56454037
>Be Japanese
>Commit war crimes
>Lie about war crimes
>get nuked T W I C E
>surrender
>be forever known as "the country that got nuked and made anime"
>>56461812
He's not wrong, having a nation in your sphere of influence doesn't necessarily equate to colonization. You can exert some power and influence, but not as if you totally controlled them. By that logic, Japan, Germany, South Korea, all of Latin America, etc. are US colonies.
>>56462123
>In the field of international relations, a sphere of influence (SOI) is a spatial region or concept division over which a state or organization has a level of cultural, economic, military, or political exclusivity, accommodating to the interests of powers outside the borders of the state that controls it.
The very first sentence in the wiki page.
>>56449089
all non white people
>>56462314
>a level of cultural, economic, military, or political exclusivity, accommodating to the interests of powers outside the borders of the state that controls it
Which is not colonization
>Colonization (or colonisation) is an ongoing process of control by which a central system of power dominates the surrounding land and its components (people, animals etc.).
a level of exclusivity =/= dominate
>be Latvian
>more colonized than a colonizer
>be colonial pro and feel the need to argue on behalf of western euros who don't even make such arguments
This is my last reply to you.
You're a waste of time.
>>56449089
At least there's one thing the Germans are good at: killing civillians. Not so much winning wars against people who shoot back.
>>56463825
Who said anything about colonization? You just pulled that word out of nowhere.
