Americans, who are you rooting to become president? What is your reason for wanting this person to be president?
>>56432777
Trump is a walking meme
>rooting
None. They're all trailer mixed bags of awful.
>voting
Trump.
Just for those sweet, sweet Reddit, news media, liberal, and liberal European tears.
>tfw Trump will lose to Cunton in the general election
>the Left will win again
>>56432825
>Voting for someone just to spite a bunch of nobodies you'll never meet.
cmon son.
>>56432777
They're all shit.
Shillary will just kick the bucket further down the road as wages continue to stagnate and the middle class continues to vanish, Trump is only interested in consolidating his own power and influence, he doesn't give two shits about the social issues he's supposedly taking a stance against.
Sanders would most likely be a disaster. He'll lose any popularity he may have had once people realise that 'free stuff' just means increased taxes which mostly vanish into an unaccountable, ineffective and fairly corrupt bureaucracy.
Cruz is slightly more worrying than even Trump, there's something quite sinister about him. Either way, he's been bought and paid for by the establishment so there's no reason to trust anything he says.
The rest are varying degrees of garbage, nothing promising whatsoever. Whoever wins, America loses. People will look back in 10 years or so and realise Obama wasn't so bad after all.
Was gonna be Rubio but looks like Clinton, now.
>>56432872
It's either him or Hillary, and I honestly don't know which I dislike more as a president.
>>56432834
wait for the debates my friend. Hilary is un-charismatic and is represents the state during a time when most people hate it. I'm sure very few people are extremely excited to vote for Hilary.
Id be happy with any of the 3 that have a shot to win, this is the first election where ive actually liked all the viable candidates instead of just hoped for who i hated the least. (im 31)
>>56432877
>Cruz is slightly more worrying than even Trump, there's something quite sinister about him
Its because trump talks real loud about fucking over immigrants and alienating muslims.
Cruz actually passes legislation to do it.
>>56432916
And you're (stupid as fuck)
>>56432777
No one. All candidates are awful.
>>56432922
>fucking over immigrants
illegal immigrants =/= immigrants
he also knows whats up. He said islam hates america, and hes right. Words matter, notice he did not say 'muslims hate america', he said islam hates america. This shows insight and understanding on the nature of the problem.
Honestly the only complaint i have with trump is im a socialist. But fuck if his foreign policy is not exactly what we need, so eh.
As a Yuropoor, I would say anybody but Clinton because that will fuck europe up. And because it will be trump vs clinton, I would choose trump. And besides, Trump wants to drop support for the terrorists in Syria, so the migrant crisis will end. In my best interests.
>>56432777
I wish we could wipe this election fresh and ban all the current candidates from running again, they're all shit.
>>56432952
Bet youve been voting up to this point like an idiot.
This is the first real election america has had in a long time. Its between the status quo and change. I think both trump and sanders are not part of the system, and hillary i think will probably just start ww3.
Still an improvement desu senpai
Trump. I voted for him in the primary and will be voting for him in November. I don't agree with him on everything, but I love him.
>>56432777
Nobody, every single candidate is fucking horrible.
We're fucked no matter what, so I might as well sit around jerking off then wasting time to wait in line to vote.
>>56432777
if you're not voting for trump you don't care about your country.
>>56433022
thats the meme responce from the last 7 elections
This is the first time its not true.
Well, actually we are probably all fucked anyway regardless, but not because of the elections.
>>56433002
This.
Who are these some of these chucklefuck?
How is this the best roster for both parties to choose from?
>>56433102
>This is the first time its not true.
Who are you refering to?
>>56432777
Bernie or Hillary. Trumps a liar, but every politician is. The problem is the lies he chooses and the fact that he can't even hold to them for 48 hours without flipflopping. That, and his handling of the shit that goes down at his rallies is pretty disgusting.
> I don't support violence
> But if you sucker punch a nigger at my rallies I'll pay your legal fees, talk shit get hit!
> Also my boys will totally fuck up yours Bernie!
Say what you will about Clinton and Sanders, but I don't think they'd actually burn the country down for the right to rule over the rubble.
>>56433193
>Bernie
low-test detected. He's done after embarrassing himself last night anyway.
>>56432825
keep it up, Michel.
I want to see twisted fucked-up liberal in Japan that is acting like following "Advanced country". I'm incredibly fed up with them.
Looks like Hillary will get the Dem nomination, and Trump for the Reps unless there's a contested convention, in which case it might be Cruz.
Hillary is the establishment personified, meaning we'll just have a continuation of the status quo, but she's a better choice than Trump or Cruz.
Why would fucking someone allow an American to become president?
>>56433174
All three potential winners i am excited about.
Trump has good foreign policy but could potentially cause harder times before things get better
Sanders would actually deliver on the typical leftist bullshit, which isnt that big a problem for me because political correctness is already going out of fashion anyway, and im a socialist
Hillary is basically the most evil one, i view her more as an empress. The reason i think she would be ok is just how damn ruthless she is, the clintons have a high body count, and hillary has been responcible for a lot of the back room deals of the last decade, so having her in position to actually reap those long term plans will probably put america in a strong position all around. She will probably keep things locally more or less standard how its been thus far though, so she is the least 'exciting' candidate, but in the end solid but minimal gains is still an improvement
All in all id prefer trump to win because the people who hate him most, i really dislike and enjoy watching them get upset. But as ive said earlier, i would be happy with any of the three of them as president.
>>56433345
they should make it a law that only Australians can run. the country would literally be better off.
>>56433341
When does your testosterone replacement therapy start?
>>56433193
You do realize the media talking points you are parroting are actually designed by the media to help trump win, by being so absurd that only a complete idiot wont see the obvious bias in it?
Media is playing batman here. They are supporting trump hard.
>>56433341
its been trump vs hillary for over a month now. Its really obvious, the people who think otherwise arent old enough to realize its all showmanship.
>>56433402
Are you implying that Trump did in fact not say those things or are you suggesting that I shouldn't care about them because of media bias?
>>56433439
>Are you implying that Trump did in fact not say those things
Yes.
He also did not say mexicans were rapists and criminals.
>>56433518
> Yes
Ok, then you're ignorant. I caught the threat on Bernie supporters from Trump's own fucking twitter a few hours before I even saw articles about it. This is definitely shit he did say. Trump supporters just don't want to hear it because it makes their candidate look like an asshole.
> Bernie Sanders is lying when he says his disruptors aren't told to go to my events. Be careful Bernie, or my supporters will go to yours!
>>56433627
you got
> Also my boys will totally fuck up yours Bernie!
from
>Bernie Sanders is lying when he says his disruptors aren't told to go to my events. Be careful Bernie, or my supporters will go to yours!
Trumps being provocative, thats whats so great about him. However if you are reading anything more into that than what he has said its you who have the problem.
The other day i heard hillary accuse trump of a list of things which is basically the exact same thing that every politician has been doing for decades. This illustrates the point, these people, and their followers, are so vile, they cant think about anythig other than what they themselves are, and the only accusations they can throw, are ones that they embody.
This is how trump operates. He will say something, people will insist he meant something else, and then make fools of themselves misquoting him because they are so convinced thats what he meant they think he actually said it. This makes them just look petty and false.
Trumps a genius.
I just want to know who is going to be VP since all 3 candidates are likely to die
>>56433968
Only sanders strikes me as a victim. Hillarys probably a projection of malevolent energy wearing human skin and immortal, and trump...
trump has no business at all being anywhere near where he is, but hes there, he also probably knows what hes doing. Inevitable assassination attempts are probably part of his plan to consolidate power even further.
>>56432777
>tumblr
kill yourself my man
>>56433801
Ignoring the violent incidents that occurred at his campaign rallies already, if you go out after a night of violence, a night you blame on the supporters of your opponent, and threaten that your supporters will show up at his rallies, yes, that does come off as a threat of violence.
And honestly, if he didn't mean for it to come off that way, that's equally damning as far as the presidency goes. If you can't take five seconds to say "gee, how might people interpret this," before talking maybe you shouldn't hold the highest office the country has to offer.
And get off the "Trump a good boy, all them politicians is evil!" Bullshit . Trump is a billionaire businessman. Running to him from the establishment in hopes of truth is like running from a tiger into the arms of a Grizzly bear.
Trumps genius lies in his ability to trick people into thinking he's telling it like it is when he's feeding bullshit. I will never understand how so many people will blindly trust this man. Even when they are shown video of Trumpt saying something that goes against their beliefs they'll claim it was edited before they admit their golden boy could do wrong.
> these people, and their followers, are so vile,
You know what's vile assaulting a man only for him to be tackled to the ground while a room full of people applaud. That's pretty fucking vile.
> b-but he gave us the finger
I'm unironically voting for Trump. Actually looking forward to his inevitable presidency
>>56432825
why do all right winger try to rationalize voting for retards with the same argument ?
everyone is like "lmao it'll butthurt reddit and the left lmao XDDD let's vote for nazis"
cowards desu
>>56434311
>Not being an accelerationist
Partidist democracy as a system is a joke, and I can understand wanting to fuck it up by voting the worst possible people into office
>>56434149
He meant it to come off that way, but hes turning it around. Hes not saying anything violent, its just coming across as violent due to context, but that context is due to the actions of his opposition.
So for what he said to be taken violently, the sanders protesters had to exist.
He plays on the edge, thats why i like him. I have spent my time on the internet being a slightly grating maybe trollish kind of funposter question mark on various forums, and ive never been banned, because i know just how far i can push it in whatever company im in. So does trump. Its a good skill.
Ill take an evil businessman over an evil politician any day. Ill trust people in order of how little they desire power, and i gauge that a career politician desires power more than a career buisnessman.
Trumps already rich and powerful, there is a chance hes actually being altruistic about his political career. Its a question of a bunch of absolute bastards vs a 'maybe bastard', ill take the gamble.
Trump will either be horrible, or great, for us. Hes the only potential for great to happen however.
Its exciting times.
Justinian killed an entire hipodrome worth of people to stop constantinople burning. He ensured the empire lasted another 1000 years.
>>56434311
Those people are literally whats wrong with the country. If we can just beat them the fuck out hard enough that they stay shut up, we might be able to get back to more serious matters like world domination.
Hallo Annos
>>56434375
>Ill take an evil businessman over an evil politician any day. Ill trust people in order of how little they desire power,
But he's an evil businessman that want's to be a poli-
> I have spent my time on the internet being a slightly grating maybe trollish kind of funposter
Oh, I see, fuck you
>>56434333
>implying accelerationism wont bring neo-monarchism instead
>>56432825
Trump is the most reddit candidate in existence
>>56434448
>But he's an evil businessman that want's to be a poli-
Typically people get into politics as a path to power, he already has it.
Thats why hes intriguing
Just stop and think for a minute. The way our country is set up, the president alone can accomplish almost nothing.
Every other person in government hates him.
But hes still running. Why? What is his plan? Arent you interested in finding out? Is he just going to kill everybody? Does he have dirt on everyone in congress? Alien support?
What is it? He thinks running is a good idea, hes not an idiot, so what does the future hold?
I cant wait
>>56434466
>Implying that is a bad thing
>>56432825
The media fucking loves Trump. He's the most divisive candidate this country has had in years. If I was a reporter I'd wake up every day and thank the lord Trump exist while racking up all those sweet sweet advertising bucks as the viewers pour in.
>>56434553
>>56434536
He's merely an opportunist exploiting people's frustrations. How is that a preferable candidate in any way
>>56434639
jokes on you, he (or his court most likely) was kind of a decent governor and better than most later Bourbon kings
>>56434659
>He's merely an opportunist exploiting people's frustrations
Thats every politician
>How is ... preferable
Everyone else whos a politician hates him
I dont think you understand how fed up people are of the status quo in america right now. Even if we get nothign but a new system of politicians, at least its something new.
The choices are either everything stays the same, or everything probably stays the same, but might change.
There was no reason to vote at all prior to this election. At least this time theres a chance something might happen.
>>56434717
>I dont think you understand how fed up people are of the status quo in america right now.
>Hillary still favourite to win
>>56434717
His rethoric aside, he is literally an embodiment of the upper echleons of the status quo tho.
Can't you get a proper nationalist instead of a meme buisnessman tv star?
>>56434717
Funny thing is Obama's approval rating is at like 60% right now so apparently people aren't that upset with the presidency, but just want things to change for... reasons I guess.
>>56432777
Clinton is the boring candidate. I like boring.
Trump would be funny to watch though...
>>56432990
>migrant crisis will end.
top kek
If migrant crisis ever ends, it will not be due to anything USA does or does not do.
>Trump wants to drop support for the terrorists in Syria
This is wishful thinking, just like idea that US under trump will leave NATO
>>56432777
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>>56434717
>Thats every politician
No it's not. The difference is huge. Hillary has been at it for years and years and she tried to win the nomination in 2008 as well. She's not 'exploiting people's frustrations'.
Trump though is merely telling people what they want to hear, manipulating them in order to gain power
>>56434814
>US under trump will leave NATO
Has he said that?
>>56434775
>a meme buisnessman tv star?
This is basically the quintessential american politician. Our founders were meme businessmen celebrities. This is why he is popular, hes basically the real deal.
>>56434789
I even find myself liking obama lately. Its just because hes on his way out. He was president for for a while now, ive gotten used to him.
>>56434871
>Trump though is merely telling people what they want to hear, manipulating them in order to gain power
But that's Hillary too.
>>56434871
>'exploiting people's frustrations'.
Do you listen to her speeches? She is pandering directly to the traditional voting block the democrats pander to.
Trumps pandering to people who have not really had a party pandering to them.
>>56434908
Hillary isn't inciting people to violence though so she's preferable.
>>56434947
neither is trump you memehead.
trump said if someone attacks his followers then they would be justified to hit them back, and that he would pay their medical bills.
Thats not 'inciting violence', thats basically saying "if someone attacks you, attack them back!" Traditional american values.
Do Americans actually believe he's gonna build a wall?
>>56432834
>Left
Fuck you, Clinton is neoliberal, imperialist right.
>>56434908
I think what he means is she has shown willing to keep at it for a long time, and has been involved in politics for longer so has legitimacy for the role. If Don loses, Don does something else I guess, Don does what he wants not what other people want.
>>56434994
No, he also said he pay their legal bills, meaning he's willing to defend people in the instance that they're in the wrong. That's why he's "looking into" paying for McGraw's legal fees even though there's clear video of him being the aggressor.
>>56435015
the cunt probably doesnt know about NAFTA
underage most likely
>>56433358
>hillary has been responcible for a lot of the back room deals of the last decade, so having her in position to actually reap those long term plans will probably put america in a strong position all around.
Most f those back rom deals have lowered American wages, caused financial crises, imprisoned millions of Americans, led to failed wars and moved American industry and technology to China. Sure, the Clintons will reap hundreds of millions for themselves, but how exactly would any of these things put America in a better position?
>>56434908
But it's not
I'll explain this one more time. Hillary is a serious politician. Her proposals are not grasped out of thin air. It's based on experience and a sensible course in politics. A continuation of Obama in many ways. It's not flamboyant or dazzling, but it is a realistic vision.
Trump is an opportunist. He doesn't actually give a fuck, he just entered the candidacy because he sensed favorable winds, that is, a frustrated electorate ripe for a populist message. He might as well have run for the democratic party if he had thought that would've given him a better chance. That shows what a spinless worm he is, all he cares about is gaining power. He's not trustworthy in the slightest.
HIS proposals ARE pandering, they're nonsensical, crap like wanting to lower taxes by 9.5 TRILLION, and then suggesting he can still balance the budget. It's not realistic in the slightest. Just a lot of shouting and hot air
voting Trump without a doubt
>>56435015
>>56435094
left and right are mostly meaningless in partidist systems aside as a term to refer to speciffic candidates or parties, everything is neoliberal anyway
>>56435133
>Hillary is a serious politician.
Hillary is a serious criminal. you probably get super filtered media that far away so its not your fault, but she is a horrible person if you know her true history.
People want change because of the current, almost tyrannical leftism. Not necessarily a bad thing, but conservatives are being opressed. Openly suggesting that Trump isn't that bad or stating that you're a republican, will immediatly damage your reputation.
If the conditions were right, Bernie could've done wonders to your country, but welfarism relies on solid fundations and high tax rates. The ONLY reason said system works in, say norway, is because we have alot of money and we are few people.
Hillary doesn't want weed, so fuck her
>>56435100
same reason i trust the cia to protect america even though they are an international drug cartel. You keep your house in order.
>>56435069
>in the instance that they're in the wrong
So only guilty people get charged of anything and dragged into court, is what you are saying?
IN a political show like this the oposition could cetainly lawyer up and target some poor rally atendant if they thought ruining their life might help their campaign. Trump is simply pledging not to let his supporters become victims. Notice he had an entire rally shut down by agressive protestors. But hes the violent one eh?
>>56435133
Shes part of the status quo, their only real goal is to stay in power. Shes part of the clinton dynasty. She might or might not have the wherewithal to do complex beneficial political plans, but why would she? Both parties have been colluding to just keep things the way they are for nearly a hundred years now.
If all trump does is disrupt their efforts, thats still better for us.
>>56435193
Well actually she didn't commit a crime as far as we know. She is untrustworthy and morally reprehensible, but she hasn't (as far as we know) actually done anything illegal. Of course Trump is also untrustworthy, and Sanders is just an unrealistic idealist.
There really are no good candidates.
>>56435328
she's committed many crimes
-she murdered Gadaffi, which was illegal according to international law
-she accepted bribes while secretary of state from foreign nations and businesses for influence
-she kept email on a unsecure private server which was classified information
-she attempted to destroy email which belonged on the public record to cover herself
that's just the things i can think of off the top of my head the list goes way back further
>>56435413
>-she murdered Gadaffi, which was illegal according to international law
Badass. She deserves to be president for this one alone.
>>56435456
if you think that was cool you can send her a gift of thanks for flooding your country with africans and middle eastern poor people
>>56435456
she literally caused the cucking of your continent ahmed
>>56432777
I was supporting Bernie Sanders but since it looks grim for him I guess I'll just brace for another decade of sinking ship.
I would emigrate if you weren't all shitting up your countries too.
>Other countries talking about US elections
Please go.
>>56435542
I like sanders on principal because im a socialist, but honestly most of his followers are the most insufferable twats ever. I hate college kids.
>>56435489
>>56435501
Do you unironically believe in those memes?
Sarkozy is more responsible for Libya than Clinton. Libya is not even main source of immigrants, and EU's impotence in dealing with them is responsibility of our own politicians and dysfunctional border and migration policies.
Using Qaddafi to outsource European security was a shit deal, just like the one with Turkey is going to be, and just examples of European hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy.
I can and do blame US (and Russia) for their share in fucking up /mena/, but at the end of the day security of EU is EU's responsibility.
I have very little interest in my own country's politics, less another country's.
But I want Trump to win just to stick it to the ultra-leftists.
>>56433193
>trump
>politician
pick one.
>>56432777
Hate me if you must... But I not only want, but VOTED for Bernie sanders! I believe in socialism and I want there to be free healthcare and access to planned parenthood for me and me sisters. I'm sorry to go against the meme, but this is how I really feel
>>56435688
You can plan your parenthood fine on your own, you don't need president to do it for you.
>>56435612
> Libya is not even main source of immigrants,
immigrants go through libya. plus ousting libya destabilized the region.
The US is more involved in the area than you are aware.
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/06/new-hillary-emails-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/
>>56435562
I haven't met any. My primary is one of the last ones (Indiana).
>>56435709
I want cheap or free access to breast/cervical cancer screenings and access to plan b pills and yes (dare I say it) abortions. I'm sorry. I'm not promiscuous. But you would feel 100% differently if you had to give birth just because of a stupid drunken evening.
If services like this are illegal then ppl will end up hurt or maimed trying to do this procedure themselves.
>>56435717
>Muh Gold standard would threaten Euro/Dollar
Absolutely retarded, added to the fact that none of the documents provided proves that the creation of such a currency would be perceived as a threat. His Gold and Silver reserves are only mentioned to point out he could sustain a conflict.
>>56435824
First of all Bernie isn't socialist and what you refer to isn't socialism at all
Second, democratic socialist countries work only because they don't have a lot of groups of different people, which wouldn't work for USA
>>56432777
Been rooting for Trump since the beginning and will continue to root for him
>tfw you can't vote
>>56435885
rooting means fucking
>>56435891
I wouldn't mind sucking the Trump tower if it means he wins
>>56435824
That's already proven to be false
>>56435717
>immigrants go through libya.
Yes they do. Not the most recent wave that comes over balkans, but they do. Even so, turning them away and processing should be responsibility of european border guard, not conveniently outsourced to a random dictator.
>ousting qaddafi destabilized the region
Yes it did. That doesn't mean overthrowing qaddafi was a bad thing, it means that the ousting was poorly thought out and forces that planned it had no idea what to do with the place after creating a power vacuum. I will agree that leaving Qaddafi in place would have been better than the ruin the place is in now though.
>The US is more involved...
Of course it's involved. Your country can't help but get involved everywhere, it seems.
>>56435879
Sanders has well thought positions. He has a long term aim.
All the orther candidates are just doing the politics of the day.
but Americans love the guys that scream, solutions for a problem that occured to came up right yesterday. Why bother fixing old problems?
>>56436348
Too bad all the dindus and other retards would rather have the serpent Clinton. Between Clinton and Trump, I'd pick Trump just for the memes.
I'm not sure Trump can actually win the general but Ill still be voting for him. Really looking forward to Trump calling bill a rapist during the first GE debate.
Anyone not planning on voting for Trump needs to take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror, and ask the following:
Am I really an American?
>>56435274
>same reason i trust the cia to protect america even though they are an international drug cartel. You keep your house in order.
America is not their house. Manhattan, good parts of LA, Paris, London, vineyards in the south of France, their gated communities are their house. Your elites are global and their managerial classes live in gated communities.
Look at the sort of countries where the elites do the best. The Nigerian government is notorious for the opulent lifestyles of their officials, and the country is full of millionaires. In quite a few countries the capitals are full of rich people with servants and the countryside and the slums are without law.
That is the best result for people like Hillary and for the CIA type of organizations.
A meme country deserves a meme president.
