>Europeans will tune in tonight to see Hilary win the primaries
Why do Europeans care about American politics? No one in America gives a shit about European politics.
because america matters you dumb shit
Because if Clinton wins, Europe wins.
We won't allow you for voting antieuropeans like Trump or Sanders
>>56403996
This is disgusting. Shillary is literal shit and if you think Trump is bad(which he isn't), Hillary will be worse
>>56403913
so we can troll the shit out of pol later ofc
>>56403913
I don't care about your meme politicians 5bh
>>56404060
I don't care if Trump is bad or good for americans interests
Hillary is good for european interests, she offers stability, friendship and we keep going this way.
Trump gives us inestability and he will destroy our image in the world for being related to him
Like, literally only Clinton and Rubio are the only potable candidates in this election.
I'm worried about the path american is choosing. Every election things are more and more distant from the center and the stability.
>>56403913
Gloating aside, we are the most relevant country.
>>56403996
>>56404223
This, although Kaisich doesn't seem to be too bad either.
AMERICA BACK TO ISOLATIONISM WHEN?!?!?!
>>56403913
countries who have the US as 1 of their major trading partners would definitely hope clinton wins. nobody wants a radical change in the US government. trump and sanders are no good for the rest of the world. only clinton would maintain the status quo
>>56404323
Soon as someone who isn't a manlet runs.
>>56404223
>trump is bad for europe
we would have a rapefugee tidal wave today if trump was in charge
>>56404557
*wouldnt
>>56403913
Actually, we just like the show.
>>56403913
>No one in America gives a shit about European politics.
But it's good to understand foreign politics. I'm following the US election because I want to be an informed member of society (and it has entertainment value). I also follow European politics and that of select other countries. The French and German elections next year will have my full attention, indeed I was following the regional German elections a couple days ago.
If one understands the dynamics that are playing out in other countries, it helps planning and strategy in a number of ways. For example if my job involves advising businesses on strategy then knowing about this stuff is a good idea.
Because soon, I too am a citizen of the American kind.
>>56404223
Well we don't give a shit about how you feel because they are meant to run America, and you aren't America, you aren't an American.
>>56403913
This election basically determines if we will be annexed by Russia or not.
>>56405265
European Union has a big influence, if Trump wins we'll make all the possible to destabilize America until the american people make him leave :^)
>>56404223
>our Image
Maybe West Europes, Pablo
But who cares anyway about some shitty image, who will appreciate it?
Niggers?
>>56405364
>if Trump wins we'll make all the possible to destabilize America until the american people make him leave
lol
>>56405321
Meh maybe the balts but beyond them I don't see Russia being able to actually win assuming all the EU fights, counting for the dysfunction I assume the EU would eventually win
>>56405364
The EU is pretty fucking weak, if you tried that we could just stop all your trade.
>>56405585
lol
>>56405364
>if Trump wins we'll make all the possible to destabilize America
WTF kid
Some european contries need a relevant figure from a relevant country to show them the way against degenerate progressive politics and rapefugees love.
I would vote for him if I were american.
>>56405585
US power depends on allies. The very fact that Trump now has a chance of becoming President means that many countries are already starting to question their reliance on the US. Stability is everything.
>>56403913
>implying I don't give a shit about European politics
>Why do Europeans care about American politics?
Because our politicians don't understand that Economy+Military combined means how powerful you are. So we aren't powerful at all and cucked under the US unfortunatly.
>>56405750
>depends on allies
We can't really count on you guys for shit though
>>56405815
(and that is why we don't matter and the US does so the US has no reason to watch EU politics)
>>56405750
>US power depends on allies
Other way around.
And that's also why I think America should stick to America for America and say screw all the others.
>>56405839
If there's any truth in that it's contingent on US weakness. IIRC the latest figures show that the US is 16% world GDP compared to nearly 50% at the start of the Cold War
I'm torn. I have to keep pretending to be Muslim for senpai but i wan't to visit the US, but i also want to see leftist tears. Pls Trump make exception for Muzzies that can recite the American anthem and have Uncle Sam lunchbox and MAGA hats.
>>56406060
No thnx
>>56406060
OK ok
>>56404060
>if you think Trump is bad(which he isn't)
The most divisive presidential candidate in US history isn't bad, okay guy.
>>56406060
>have to keep pretending to be Muslim
Uh unless you're getting married to a qt muslim, what for?
>Why are American politics important
The single most important country on the planet is going to have a bloodless mini-revolution for the next 4 years. It's important no matter how you slice it.
>>56405518
rip
>>56403913
It is a great show. I watch debates and BCS only this season.
>>56403913
Because you are the main cock in the cockhouse, it draws attention
![2000px-Forms_of_government.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/YLTaife.png "2000px-Forms_of_government.svg[1].png")
Some of the reasons have been mentioned: US is a superpower and the entertainment factor. Another thing that makes US politics interesting is how alien it is compared to European politics. Not just the political left/right spectrum but the structure of the political system itself is different to what the majority of Europeans have in their domestic politics - mostly parliamentary democracies.
Therefore US politics, with its primaries, its President separated from the lower house, and so on is exotic and interesting
Your political campaigns are like reality TV shows and generate a metric ton of memes. Over here it's just to quick and abrupt.
>>56406578
To be fair, over here we have limits on political campaign donations and the lengths of the campaigns themselves. It would be impossible to fund a US-style campaign in the UK because even if people wanted to throw that much money at a party it'd be illegal.
>>56406701
Exactly
>>56404291
I wish Kaisich would gain more traction the top 3 candidates as of now all suck it's unfortunate but I guess that's how politics always go.
>>56403913
but i do care about european politics
>>56406917
I don't blame you, European politics has become interesting for the first time in a long time. Have you noticed the 'great fragmentation'? Some countries (Spain, Ireland) with proportional voting systems are literally unable to form a government because vote has fragmented to an insane degree. Anti-establishment and anti-globalisation forces are getting stronger just like you're seeing in America
Poland and the UK went from coalition -> majority government as the exceptions that prove the rule, although in Poland it was the anti-establishment vote that won the majority
>>56407894
>Spain
Spain still has 4 major parties. Try the Netherlands for a change, there's already talk of requiring 5 or 6 parties just in order to form a government next election.
>>56408614
Yeah but it's impossible to predict the results of an election a year away. Everyone "knew" that the May 2015 UK election would result in a Hung Parliament and a coalition would be difficult to form. Then what happened?
I cite Spain because they actually can't form a government, it's a mess. Same in Ireland. They may need to another election. If that doesn't work it will be minority government or Grand Coalitions, and the thing about a Grand Coalition is that the extremist fringe parties are given extra legitimacy as the most visible opposition.
The next of American's president will affect other countries' politics.
Just look now at Germany, Trump so far has won, now AfD got on 2nd place of certain place. People wakes up because your country wakes up, this is ironically true. You can't deny this.
>>56408967
You think the Germans were voting AfD because of Trump???
I don't want an incompetent bitch to rule the most powerfull country in the world.
She's a real cuck too.
The same reason Europeans desire to know several languages while Americans are content being monolingual.
The European is interested in intellectual subjects while Americans simply strive for pleasure. They only care about today (Change! Make America great again) instead of actually listening to their politicians ("Make Mexico Pay For The Wall" lel)
>>56409006
Not really believe, but the coincidence is pretty strong.
>>56409190
You don't think it had something to do with the refugee crisis and Merkel's open door policy, to the extent that the German media were treating the elections as a referendum on Merkel's handling of that crisis?
>>56405745
too bad you would be considered a subhuman spic for trump and get deported
>>56403913
>Europeans will tune in tonight to see Hilary win the primaries
No. I won't. I will just read the headline next morning and laugh about primitive Americans.
>>56403913
Because you're spamming it for a year already.
Fuck off already.
>>56405364
Pablo Iglesias pls. Go comb your hair.
>>56409486
>laugh about primitive Americans.
>>56409486
>>56409466
You are a fucking retard. Go back with your dirty dog and your flaut and leave my fucking country.
>>56403913
The same reason I tuned in to watch the German voting the other day
>>56405750
What the fuck
Trump: "Iraq was a terrible idea"
"We need to stop invading countries"
"Globalist trade deals are bad"
"I hope European nationalists win elections"
vs
Cruz/Rubio/Bush
"Invade everything and drag our allies with us"
"Let's spy on everything"
"Corporate America should colonize the world more"
Trump is objectively less of an asshole to US allies than Bush was, who dragged Europeans to die in our pointless wars and set forth spying programmes and other crap. Trump is against Iraq, and Iraq caused a lot of the refugees. Those like Cruz or Bush don't care of the consequences though
>>56405213
Retard. The USA is a third-world shithole full of fat retards, why anyone in the first world would come here is beyond me
>>56409804
>nini without the ESO spotted
go back to gandia shore, subhuman scum, do a favor to your country and kill yourself
Based Cruz is the only candidate that can save western values and stop degeneracy and muslim invasion. Trump is just another liberal cuck and Clinton will just continue with Obama's policies. Other candidates are just a meme at this point.
>>56409159
>The same reason Europeans desire to know several languages
>Britain has worse second language attainment than the USA
Although considering your pic I know you were pretending to act fedora
>>56403913
We all need to have a laugh sometimes
>>56410066
I own a bussines, while you are just human scum that talks about how to save the world, eventhou you just smoke weed and dont work/study a meme degree. Good luck being a failure and sucking muslim cock you subhuman scum.
Sanders is the most pro-European candidate I think
He solidly opposes TTIP
>>56410141
Good thing that Social democrats are dying lol
>>56403913
A legitimate answer to a bait thread: because Europeans on 4chan speak English, hence they are interested in countries which speak English.
>>56409996
I said "stability is everything" you fool. A US President who is dismissive of NATO and wants to get cosy with Russia is obviously going to make Europeans question their assumption of the USA's role since the end of WW2. You are a fucking idiot.
Also the US isn't powerful enough to drag Europeans into wars if they don't want to be involved. In Iraq most of Europe chose not to join in. When the US was gearing up to hit Assad, even the UK refuse to join in. Libya in 2011 was actually a case of Europe dragging the US into a conflict.
>>56410367
fuck off
>>56410367
Sanders would reduce military expending, and probably would destroy the economy of our main trade partner (the US) through stupid regulations. We only care about you for this 2 things, and Sanders would hurt us the most.
>>56404223
Good thing you aren't voting.
Now shoo shoo.
>>56405750
>US power depends on allies
Other way around autist.
>>56410555
You know so little about our political system.
Research it before you shitpost.
>>56410778
How is Sanders going to balance the budget if he wants to increase expending so much? He will probably reduce the military spending. The other thing is that he wont be able to pass a single bill through congress, but he can Veto what congress proposes. So the US would have a meme goverment that would do javk shit, rulled by an old fuck that was bullied in his own rally by some niggers. Sanders presidency would be a big joke, and would make us all lose time and resources.
>>56410555
>sanders controls the budget
No.
>>56409486
If Germany is considered "advanced" then I'm fine being primitive.
>>56410555
>Sanders would reduce military expending,
Almost everyone in the world wants this about the USA. Americas military is primarily used for evil purposes. Most foreigners want a more isolationist USA that spends more on things like healthcare and infrastructure.
TTIP is what will fuck Europe up, and Sanders opposes it while the mainstream candidates have been suspiciously quiet on it. TTIP threatens to allow the US to dump toxic pseudo-food products on Europe for cheap, along with giving the rights of multinational corporations to sue governments for "lost profits"
>>56410531
So what? None of that in that image has anything to do with Poland. Polish soldiers died in Iraq for American lies.
![world-usDefensePacts-2300[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IBL5Ril.jpg "world-usDefensePacts-2300[1].jpg")
>>56410680
Why does the US spend so much money, put American lives at risk, and stake so much credibility on defending a multitude of different countries across the world if the US didn't depend on allies? Did you know you have a defence pact with Pakistan? Why would a country which doesn't need allies do something like that?
>>56404060
dumb trumpposter
>>56411272
The world hates us down to the DNA. It's utterly pointless to defend bigots. It's like a black man paying for security to protect the KKK
>>56404557
why not?
>>56403913
T
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MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
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>>56411235
TTIP would fuck Germany over. Countries like Spain or Greece would benefit about it. Our economy is transitioning to exporting mainly, and our labour is cheaper than yours, and products that dont pass the regulations here cannot be sold, we alredy have free trade agreements with countries like Colombia, and they cant sell their crappiest shit here. Europe needs a strong US military, because reallisticly your army is the only thing that prevents Russia from bully us.
>>56411272
pakistan was because soviets had influence over india so we needed to have influence over pakistan
>>56411039
He can veto a bill passed by the congress.
>>56404223
>Like, literally
Neck yourself yank
>>56411621
Yep, exactly.
So as I saying >>56405750, "US power depends on allies". Allies are necessary to project influence.
>>56403913
>Why do Europeans care about American politics?
Hillary Clinton on the violent death of a leader of a sovereign country.
"We came, we saw, he died" **Laughs gleefully**
>>56404223
>>56411807
Nothing wrong with a healthy thirst for blood-letting in the national interest
>I do not personally regard the whole of the remaining cities of Germany as worth the bones of one British Grenadier. It therefore seems to me that there is one and only one valid argument on which a case for giving up strategic bombing could be based, namely that it has already completed its task and that nothing now remains for the Armies to do except to occupy Germany against unorganised resistance.
- Bomber Harris
>>56406041
Because your economy was destroyed retard
>>56405128
This basically
Except pic, capital of the world ? Uheuhe
Voted 4x for Sanders today
If Clinton and her goons cheat their way to victory I'm gonna riot
>>56403913
Hillary is going to win and she will finally open our borders to see millions of Yanks and Mexicans coming and going.
America will receive like 10 millions of us in the next 8 years and we will receive a couple of millions of Yanks that are gonna open business and buy "cheap" houses and land.
Hillary isn't only the best option for us she is the best option for the entire world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkSRJSUY0vs
ruh-roh
>>56412003
Which made the US more powerful in a relative sense. The recovery of the rest of the world from war has made the US position weaker. Isn't this obvious? If the US economy grows at 3% that says absolutely nothing about US power in the world until you know how the rest are growing.
>>56409159
We are not monolingual. Many Americans can speak Spanish and for a long time the second most spoken language in the US was German.
>>56412154
>muh we the same treatement as men. Womyn are tough
>trump is rude to womyn. What a terrible human bean
>>56406218
my parents would kill themselves. My Mum said this to ym face in complete seriousness. I mean if they threatened to kill me or disown, i'd be hurt but i could easily just abandon them. But they love me so much and have always and been great parents, so i just fucking cant do that to them.
I wish religion didn't exist, chains us fucking down.
>>56412498
holy fucking shit you are retarded
that being said the video is still stupid
>>56412647
Isn't suicide a unforgivable sin in Islam too ?
>>56412811
They blow themselves up all the time m8
>>56412217
>Many Americans can speak Spanish
That's oftenthe only language they speak 2bh
>>56411272
defense pacts are mostly a show of support/respect and or ww3 worst case disaster scenario preparing
the entire world depends on the US for stability, countries like korea and kuwait literally wouldn't exist if we didnt have bases in them. Our navy secures all the major ocean trading and shipping routes and the entire EU's military capabilities are 1/10 or less compared to the united state's. The reason many EU countries can afford to have such generous social welfare programs is because they are offered security by the united states. why do you think no one has a base on US soil
>it's a "non-American tries arguing the intricacies of American politics and their opinion on the matter" post/thread
>>56412811
Religion is all shit lad
Gave up trying to understand this shit a long time ago.
It's a shame as Arabic actually looks like a neat language.
>>56403913
What is primaries? Don't americans have elections? You just come and vote and they count votes, no?
>>56403913
>No one in America gives a shit about European politics.
This is what's wrong with America desu. I try to follow most of Europe's elections and the nations I care about or have a vested interest in.
>>56413094
why should we care?
their elections barely effect us
>>56413215
>their elections barely effect us
Do you really believe this? Just think about it
>>56412999
I wonder what EU countries would do if both US and Russia decided to cut all ties.
>>56413081
are you shitposting or serious?
primaries election: voting to decide which canidate will represent the party (democrat and republican) for the general election
this is just the 1st half of the election cycle
> You just come and vote and they count votes, no?
it is way more complicated than that. im not gonna explain the electoral college in 1 post but votes are basically decided by winning a state's majority votes not by popular vote.
Very important for global power politics as there are two candidates that go against the status quo which can have far reaching consequences. Trump is essentially a pig headed isolationist who doesn't give a shit about agreements, if he wins NATO will lose it's legitimacy, he is fairly open about the fact that he considers the Baltics, Ukraine and other states as a part of the Russian sphere of influence which will make NATO lose the tiny drop of legitimacy it has left. I support many of Sanders domestic policies but honestly he is too idealistic and I just imagine him as a sort of appeasement politician, but perhaps I am wrong. If these candidates win US influence in Europe may be diminished which can have unforeseen consequences.
>>56403913
No one in Europe wants your US bases here idiot.
Pack your shit and head back to burgerville, and we'll stop caring about your bullshit.
If you stopped meddling into the affairs of other nations, other nations would stop caring about your politics.
Is that so difficult to understand?
>>56413081
Their "democracy" is far more complicated then that.
>>56413372
the average american feels no repercussions on european elections. the fact that european countries depend on USA's military and economic co-operation ensures that they will always be friendly on the political level.
even if lets say spain decided that they would elect a president thats anti-american to the max and shuts off all trade and all other ties to america, the average american wouldn't feel any change in their lives
>>56413639
The "average American" is very affected by the US economy, which has extremely close links to the European economy. European elections will have huge repercussions on our economy and yours because the future of the EU is at stake if certain things happen in any number of European elections that are coming up in the next few years.
You're incredibly ignorant.
>>56411272
Don't be naive, it's a matter of soft power.
![eu-us-export[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZYzrkwR.jpg "eu-us-export[1].jpg")
>>56413639
Here you go, 21.7% of your exports. That is massive. Any big disruption that happens in Europe you'll feel it for sure.
>>56413945
>soft power
>military defence pacts
>soft power
>>56413754
>>56414011
but it works both ways
if you cut off your exports and economic ties then you also lose on american export and economic ties
so no president is going to effect americans by cutting off trade
>>56414011
Didn't Obama say he wanted to focus on the pacific area for trades?
I think the US is slowly turning their back on EU. Depends on whether or not TTIP will actually happen though.
>>56414302
Famous last words
>>56413402
become africa
>>56414936
That is currently happening anyway, so why not.
Because America is the most powerful country and because they speak English. It's hard to get interested in the politics of a country if you can't understand their language.
>No one in America gives a shit about European politics.
Plenty of Americans were interested in the British election, Scottish independence, Euro crisis etc.
>>56415051
maybe china would invade
china population is literally bigger than all of EU + USA + Russia
>>56414302
The disruption doesn't have to be a deliberate cutting of ties. If the Eurozone or EU comes to an end, that will hit US-Europe trade hard. If a European nationalist or a populist is elected in a major European country, then that will have global ramifications. Plus, there are a lot of votes in protectionism, as you must have noticed if you were paying attention to your own elections. So what if it's harmful if that's what the people want then it'll happen.
Do you know any US history? The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930? You guys did that despite it being damaging to your economy.
>Europeans saying 'Clinton would be good for us!'
Just like Obama when he caused the Syrian refugee crisis? Or Bill Clinton in the Balkans?
Its like watching a slow motion carsh crash
>>56415954
>Just like Obama when he caused the Syrian refugee crisis?
I think that was george bush
>twice
>>56415954
>Syrian refugee crisis
Most of the refugees are not even Syrian god fucking damnit.
>>56416062
>bush decided to overthrow Assad
>>56410367
>supported war against Serbia
>cons
>>56416527
just ignore the cuck
>>56403913
we care about us politics because we know that the bigest decision are made in washington, even for europe.
>tfw there's a stealth rare flag ITT
>>56403913
>No one in America gives a shit about European politics.
We all know that Americans can barely place Mexico on a map, let alone understand that other countries also have politics
>euros support the candidate that caused/supported the shitstorm in the middle east
>while said euros are still feeling the aftershocks of said shitstorm in the form of migrants, etc.
>AMERICA FUNDING THE HUTTI TUTTI WAR
>THEY ALL COME TO WESTERN EUROPE
>AMERICA FUNDING ISLAMIC EXTREMIST IN YUGOSLAVIA
>THEY ALL COME TO WESTERN EUROPE
>AMERICAN FUNDING THE IRAQ WAR
>THEY ALL COME TO WESTERN EUROPE
>AMERICAN FUNDING THE SYRIA WAR
>THEY ALL COME TO WESTERN EUROPE
If you don't support Trump you're literally retarded.
>>56403996
>>56404223
Et tu Spain? I thought you were a decent guy.
Because American politics is a fucking circus so it's fun to watch.
Politics is inherently boring, but America manages to make it entertaining. Albeit not in a good way, but still
