Finno-Ugric union when?
300 BC, almost all languages in Russia proper (Novgorod) = Finno-Ugric.
>Finnic
Sure
>Ugric/Saami
No
>>55824109
Homeland of ural mountains belongs to Finno-Ugric peoples.
turan when
>>55824149
Ugrics are too mixed. We can fix Komi and Udmurt with Finnish semen but we can't fix Ugrics.
>>55823891
Are Finno-Ugrics the celtcucks of Eastern Europe?
>>55824261
We actually have our own countries, withstood many invasions and occupations, speak our languages and have preserved our culture unlike celts.
We would need to learn speak russian to be in contact with "volga finns". Heck Finns don't know a shit about Estonia for example. Finno-Ugric union will never happen
>>55824484
I think 2000 years ago Mordvin would have been as close to Balto-Finnic as Estonian is to Finnish now(and the intermediate languages like Merya even closer). Maybe if those Slavic roaches didn't show up we could have had some unity.
>>55823891
>Vendic
DAS RITE
FUCK OFF SLAVSHITS
>>55823771
Mari and Erzän masterrace
>>55823891
Rurik was Finnish tbqh senpai, also Novgorod was a joint effort of Uralics and Slavs originally and then Scandis came into the picture
>>55824149
Sami and Samoyeds aren't Uralics but Mongoloids who adopted an Uralic language, Proto-Uralics were EHG cro-magnons aka caucasoids
>>55823771
*Turanian Union
>>55825630
I think Proto-Uralics had 5-10% Siberian-Mongoloid DNA.
>>55825859
No, Mongoloids are way younger than Cro-Magnons
>>55823771
It was a Stalin's plan. To put all the finns in the place of their origins.
He deported estonians, and would deport finns to the same place were they fall under the soviet influence.
It's a dream of millenia. Deport all the finno-ugrics in empty Northern Urals and all the Turkics to the Northern Saha, where they'll live and thrive peacefully like 3000 years ago and will potentially build civilization of their own.
>>55825672
>middle ages
>german flag
>slavs as slaves
2/10
>>55825894
Proto-Uralics existed in 4000-3000 BC somewhere west of the Ural mountains. There was East Asian MtDNA(C1) in Karelia over a thousand years before that.
>>55825920
Ural Mountains or any of contemporary Russia is yet to be proven to be our ancestral homeland
>>55826034
Does it really matter? Finns and turks are the only species capable to withstand such a harsh climate. These lands were meant for you.
>>55826034
>any of contemporary Russia
You just went full retard.
>>55826121
The language might be from there, but looking at autosomal DNA we most certainly aren't
>>55826003
Such genetic markers are in the minority and point to minor admixture, Proto-Uralics were predominantly N1c1 and R1a (there's a subclade of R1a found in Karelians not present in Slavs and is much more ancient) as EHG Cro-Magnon huntergatherers belonged to those groups primarily
>>55826089
How about you let Maris, Erzäns, Sakhas etc. become independent if East Slavs can't withstand such climate?
>>55826154
Finns aren't genetically from present day Russia raped by Huns and Slavs but Bronze age Russia where the Turkic taint didn't exist.
Estonian are the only people we actually have something in common. Mixing us and komi would be like if someone tries to mix nippons and aztecs
>>55826262
They could separate just like all the others in 90s, but we are their only neighhbors, they don't have neither planes nor ships to support own independent existence.
Why don't you move there and take a lead of this rebellion anyway?
>>55826428
Why would they need armies if theyre surrounded by peaceful russia :)
>>55825920
>>55826089
>live in the middle of nowhere
>no sea nearby
>no humid climate
>no forests
0/10
>>55826220
Curiously, haplogroup Q is not carried by Finno-Ugrics but is common in Scandinavia leading credibility of the hypothesis of an extra-European Asian origin for it and Scandinavians.
>>55826545
I mean transport. They have neither fruits, nor vegetables, reindeer blood is their only source of vitamins. They don't even have salt.
We never conquered them technically. We just came to them selling the salt and gunpowder.
They can get anything they want without trouble while being part of Federation. Were they foreigners we'd sell them everything for tremendous price.
>>55823891
>"wendic"
>just another word for the slavs
>just like "welsch" for the celts, as in Wallis, Wales, Wallonien, etc.
Why are the polish so butthurt about being in a language group with the russians? They have the same origin, but the russians moved eastwards and mixed with a lot of indigenous people, so where is the point in making up such a shit ass "excuse"?
>>55826708
The Q found in Swedes and other Scandis is from Hunnic admixture famalam
>>55826857
>They have the same origin,
Except not.
>>55826998
>dat scientific method
What is that
>>55827113
No idea. Some german was spamming it, so i saved it. :^)
>Finnish thread always end up in hablopablo map spamming
It's fucking amazing to be honest.
>>55823771
Looks like we need to keep our eyes open, if Russia starts harassing our people in their "country". We need to protect our interests in our sphere of inluence
>>55827320
That's because both Finns and Poles were hurt by being under someone's influence.
Finns under Swedes and Russkies
Poles under Germans and Russkies
:^)
pls no bully Ugrics senpai
>>55827418
And yet we still exists. Looks like we are the real cockroaches of nationalities, we never cease to be! ETERNAL FINNISH AND POLISH BUTTHURT!
>>55827624
DAS RITE
till the next time...
