I apologize for that shitshow of a debate rest of the world. I really do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9l6ouupdfI
>tfw not relevant
>people dont make fun of your shitty elections
>>55046101
>all those people cheering for ¡Jabe!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-95slpIMAE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2KQHMc7E5M
>>55046101
god i love trump.
>>55046101
What the fuck was that shit about Russia ? Why would even talk shit about them ? Does he think Putin doesn't watch these debates ? how the fuck is he suppose to respect a man and work with that talks shit about them what the fuck
Where were you when trump won the nomination
>>55046251
just fuck my election up
>>55046251
lel
>>55046267
You'd be out of your mind if you think Trump is gonna win this election. He's just entertaining the rafters.
>>55046101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU4jMs7EeUI
>>55046267
>>55046781
Such a sad end to such a beautiful friendship
>>55046101
Dear Amurikans, is anybody going to vote for Clinton in case she wins the Democrats' slot? I know your electing system is fucked up but still
>>55046850
The Republicans have an uphill climb to defeat Clinton. In all likelihood she will become president next year.
>>55046842
Actually, Bush ended up really disliking Putin. He tried really hard to develop a personal relationship with him, but Putin was too autistic for that.
>>55046101
Why are you apologizing? Fuck what the rest of the world thinks t b h
>>55046893
>Hillary gets elected
>a guaranteed four years of scandals and foreign policy blunders, combined with all that Berniefag butthurt
Can't wait
Boots on the ground in Syria when?
>>55046907
Putin actually seems kind of retarded.
>"You talk about Khodorkovsky, and I talk
about Enron," Putin told Bush. "You appoint the Electoral College and I appoint governors. What’s the difference?"
>At another point, Putin defended his control over media in Russia. "Don’t lecture me about the free press," he said, "not after you fired that reporter."
>"Vladimir, are you talking about Dan Rather?" Bush asked.
>Yes, replied Putin.
>Rather was in the process of stepping down as anchor of the CBS Evening News after a report accusing Bush of not fulfilling his National Guard service turned out to be based on fraudulent documents. Bush explained to Putin that he had nothing to do with Rather losing his job. "I strongly suggest you not say that in public," he added. "The American people will think you don’t understand our system."
He also told Bush that he "knew" that the US had special poultry farms just for Russia, so we could send our bad chicken to them.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/11/06/the-seduction-of-george-w-bush/
>>55046101
All debates in all parties are terrible. They are not informative or useful in any way.
>>55046101
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>>55046968
Based George
>>55046969
The Democratic debates have been pretty decent, actually.
>>55046968
The more I learn about Russia the more convinced I become that most of them actually do believe that the rest of the world is as shitty as they are, and no amount of proofs will convince them otherwise. I guess it's a coping mechanism.
>>55047004
No, they're awful. You can learn literally all the things said there in like 5 minutes of reading on a site like ontheissues or similar.
>>55047036
Obviously. The point of a debate is not to learn about a candidate's policy positions, though. It's to see how they articulate them and how they deal with being challenged.
>>55046986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lix-ajZ4Sk
>>55046101
Holy shit, no wonder people support Trump.
>>55047073
If that's the case I don't understand how anyone favors Sanders then. He normally does not answer the questions and just repeats his stump speech.
>>55047093
His stump speech is a pretty good articulation of his candidacy, though.
I'm not entirely convinced that he really believes that he has a shot at the nomination. But he is trying to take every opportunity that he can to get his message out to as wide an audience as possible. I can respect that. I've watched a lot of presidential debates over the years, and some of the things that he is saying are things that you wouldn't normally hear from a major candidate. It's refreshing, much in the way that Trump is refreshing, except, unlike Trump, it's not retarded or pure entertainment.
>>55047093
It was pretty based when he called out Clinton for name-dropping Henry Kissinger as if Kissinger isn't widely regarded (outside of the Washington sycophant establishment) as a complete piece of shit.
>>55047076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK_udj4kKz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo26QwFpqwE
RATO BTFO
>>55047154
ratito bootyblastito
>>55047153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UAzhuiT3k8
>>55047129
>except, unlike Trump, it's not retarded or pure entertainment.
>>55047148
Kissinger is pretty based though desu
not that I like the Clintons
>>55047025
a lot of the worlds problems would be solved if russia didn't exist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDXczRDJJ4c
The most embarrassing moment was actually when Cruz and Rubio argued over who was the bigger spic
>>55047188
>>55047209
look at trump holding his tongue
>>55047129
His stump speech puts on full display his severe lack of policy depth and willingness to waste political capital while simultaneously not defending things he actually voted for.
>>55046101
Why does ¡Yeb! think his family name entitles him to my vote? I hate his family. His brother destroyed this country.
If I'm going to vote for a Republican it's going to be Trump.
>>55047129
The thing is that Sanders himself is way fucking smarter, more strategic, and bigger picture focused than any of his supporters or staffers.
>>55046101
>hurr durr jeff is trying to be a tough guy let me say that about 3 billions times am i funny yet
>if i get booed its the jews lobby
>>55047271
>"My brother kept America safe!"
Is this how the Republican establishment actually views Dubya's foreign policy?
>>55047358
Who is Jeff?
>Trump retweeting /pol/ again
>>55047380
Yes. And that's why the party is currently being crashed with no survivors. The comes a point where lessons need to be learned.
>>55046101
Trump is god damn right. The West is supporting Syrian militias opposed to Assad for Geo-political reasons.
>>55047405
>Tfw trump misses his father
>>55047439
>not capitalizing God
Do better next time
>>55047196
Like what problems?
>>55047608
The Russian problem
>>55046644
>NGER AMERICA
desu I like Russia
You know that show Firefly where America joined with China and colonized the galaxy?
I want that, but with the Russians.
>>55047802
Russia solving problems m8.
>>55047834
Such as?
>>55047853
Nazis, Japan and Muslims, Also mongols and some capitalists in 'nam and Korea. You are welcome.
>>55047885
Russia solved none of those things, and many of those weren't even problems.
Nazis and Japs may be total shit but they're still more civlized than Russians.
the craziest part was that trump actually started to say a lot of reasonable things - aka showing his true colours (blue)
which very well may end up being his undoing because everyone is eventually going to find out that he is not actually a braindead republican like the rest of them - he just has a few right wing tier beliefs to go along with his liberal beliefs... i guess you could call him purple but hes really just being a pretend republican
the other crazy thing is how they make eachother look so fucking stupid that voting for a democrat seems like the only reasonable choice (however deluded they might be) - or kasch maybe since hes not nuts
>>55047990
Do you hear about them making trouble around, I am not also.
>>55047990
Nigger, plz. Leave us and we will not make any "problems".
>>55048081
leave us alone*
>>55046101
Who the fuck would watch american debates outisde of America?
>>55048114
We are, because is numba one and can sanctioned every country on the globe without the consequences.
>>55048161
USA
![1455438023872[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GJ2Iz6c.jpg "1455438023872[1].jpg")
>>55048161
and it was your job to prevent that
>>55048200
It was a USSR job.
>>55048217
USSR- Us Soviets Suck, Really.
>>55046101
I feel kind of sorry for Jeb Bush. He seems like a nice guy, a fucking idiot, but a nice idiot. If I got more than one vote I'd throw him a pity vote, even if I am a devious shitlord liberal.
>that bell
>that booing and clapping
>>55048261
>>55048318
>even if I am a devious shitlord liberal
So are you voting Hillary, or Hillary?
>>55047990
This is a key. Finally, you said that, not me :)
Westerners could have a conversation with nazis and japs. We are not, we are untermenschen and must be destroyed. How can I even see West as a friend, especially when you say such words?
It doesn't make me putin's fan though
>>55048340
>especially when you say such words?
They never denied it.
>>55046907
stop spreading rumours he is not autistic
>>55046101
>>55048340
USofA wanted to kill russians, vietnam's latin americans who are not a drug dealers, what a surprise.
>>55048339
Bernie like all the other young people.
Wouldn't touch Shillary. If she ended up the official democratic candidate the I'd probably just vote Trump just to see how absurd shit can get. If nothing else he's good for laughs.
>>55046251
that was great
>>55047885
>removing nazis
based russians
world wont forget that
![10d8c640-0dc4-0131-933a-168dd56d763b[1].gif_.gif](https://i.imgur.com/qms5xfl.gif "10d8c640-0dc4-0131-933a-168dd56d763b[1].gif_.gif")
>I lost hundreds of friends
>BOOOOOOOOOOOOO
America will great again. I vote Trump.
>>55048390
>USofA wanted to kill russians
We don't. We just want Russia to not exist anymore.
>>55048510
It almost the same. Dem murrinazis.
>>55048546
We're cool with that desu. At least we understand each other.
War when?
>>55048563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq0_ApTwNH4
>War when?
Nuclear war?
>>55048563
Bever i suppose. We shall show the world an eternal competition. While you will be on top we will starving and podsirat you
>>55048563
you had the chance in south ossetia, ukraine and now syria and pussied out
>>55048587
Sasha pls. It's been almost a century now, no one believes the nuke meme anymore.
When do we have a real war?
>>55046893
>The Republicans have an uphill climb to defeat Clinton
When she's rejected by her own base in favor of the senile welfare check-writer, what chance does she have getting Republican votes?
>>55048625
A nuclear war? Because nuclear countries fights with nukes to the last man on Earth that the rules.
>>55048597
>starvinf instead of fighting
That's why we're greatest enemies, you guys know exactly how to piss us off.
>>55048613
No one cares about those places. Also shut the fuck up spic, humans are talking.
I do think Trump made a misstep in claiming Bush was at fault for 9/11. While I can understand why he did it, it was still a not terribly bright thing to do.
>>55048533
Build Wall lmao
But seriously, I'm not so hopeless idealistic that expect a lot of Bernie's plans to work or even get passed by Congress. Why vote for him then? I simply like what he says more than I like anything the other candidates say. Unlike a lot of other people though I ground my expectations in reality. You won't see a great deal of change in this country within the next four years regardless of who gets elected. Trump included. Sanders and Trump will both face massive resistance in Congress. Bernie will face opposition from Republicans and Trump will face opposition from Democrats and establishment Republicans. Anyone else will try to keep the status quo.
>>55048655
>When she's rejected by her own base
She isn't.
Literally almost 99% of superdelegates pick her, meaning she'll win the primary.
>>55048657
We both know nuclear war will never happen.
Both our countries have too much invested in the next Olympic hockey tournament to destroy the planet.
Fucking Canada..
>>55048680
George Bush was not a conservative by any stretch; in 1965 he'd be a Democrat. He significantly ballooned domestic entitlement programs and also promoted things like TARP and No Child which are not small government conservatism by any definition.
Why does Trump always get booed in these things when Jeb has like 2% support in the real world?
>>55048676
>hurr durr muh war
>n-no one c-cares about those places.
kek
what a faggot
>>55048688
And here comes the Hillary campaign employee again. Right on time like every political thread.
>>55048721
>n-no one c-cares about those places.
That's true, I'm sorry it bothers you.
I believe Trump has more mainstream undecided voter appeal while Cruz is more preferred by hardcore conservatives/Bible thumpers.
>>55048713
>We both know nuclear war will never happen.
That is sad. The world in v truhu would be a funny.
>>55048714
On those things no BUT he did appoint two conservative USSC Justices which is two more than Reagan appointed (2 of his 3 USSC appointments were not conservatives).
>>55048753
why would it bother me that the average beckbeard american is an internet warmongering
America told russia not to invade both crimea and south ossetia, they did and you did not retaliate sorry this fact bothers you
>>55048756
from an outside perspective it looks like hardcore conservatives/Bible thumpers have been destroying GOP for a while now
>>55048765
Once the US and Russia start trading gold medals in hockry we can have nuclear war.
Canada can't be allowed to go out on top in anything.
>>55048773
That is true however Bush was president in a post-Reagan world. He had more choice in qualified conservative jurists to put on the court than Reagan did. Alito and Roberts were both guys who came up in the 80s during the Reagan Revolution and were more directly influenced by that era. For comparison Reagan was largely stuck with judges who were products of the Warren Court and mid-20th century liberalism.
And even then, Bush still retardedly thought he could appoint his personal legal secretary to the court.
>>55048781
What's a beckbeard? Is that like a forged work visa?
>>55048786
Right, because you're the gay Australian troll. I'm well familiar with your shitposts.
https://desustorage.org/int/thread/54910152/#54910415
>>55048857
There are lots of us gay Australian posters. You had me worried for a moment but that post wasn't me.
He's an absolute degenerate but only because of his Asian fetish
Nobody ever gets completely what they want in a president, there's always a level of compromise. Reagan is still a conservative icon although he signed an amnesty for wetbacks and signed an assault weapons ban two things strict constitutional conservatives would oppose. FDR is still a liberal icon although he put the Japanese in internment camps and was not a fan of straight welfare or of organized labor.
Or the many leftists who think Obanana is a sellout because he failed to produce single payer health care, even though I'm very certain that's what he had planned.
>>55046101
I don't get it...I mean, I hate Jeb Bush, but how would Trump have prevented the world trade center coming down? How could George Bush had known? I disagree with the way he handled things, but no one could have foreseen the act of terror that was 9/11. Airport security would've been the same because the country had no reason to be on high alert until after the WTC coming down. Trump's just using buzzwords to get the crowd loud; why won't these people think?
>>55048718
Because the audience is composed of establishment republicans that donate money to Jeb
>>55048912
It's a dumb thing; Republican suits claim they have to distance themselves from RR, especially when they like to claim it loses them Millenial voters because Millenials were not born/too young to remember him. But Democrats still openly embrace FDR as a symbol of the party though no modern Democrat was around in his time.
>>55048937
I just don't understand why they haven't abandoned Jeb yet since he's doing so shit. It's so weird to such a bias audience. I bet those tickets are expensive as fuck
>>55048926
I agree, he shouldn't have accused Bush (who was in office all of 8 months at the time) of culpability in 9/11 when if anything, Clinton was the guy to blame because he'd had and failed the chance to capture Osama Bin Laden.
If you ask me, Trump is probably banking on the idea that the conservative base does not like GWB and consider him a RINO/sellout/whatever. Which we could split hairs on, but I still think it was rather poor judgement.
>>55048975
Clearly you know little of just how much the Beltway insiders will go out of the way to appoint their own. On the other side, the big Democrat donors will support Hillary until the heavens fall in although it's obvious BS is running away with their voter base.
>>55048975
It doesn't matter at this point. The people abandoned ¡Jeb! months ago, the fact he still refuses to accept that is a case of constant amusement to the entire country. I honestly don't know wtf he was thinking by running. Americans were never going to take kindly to an unabashed grab for dynasty.
Not that anon btw.
>>55048834
>work visa
>letting other people into your country to steal your jobs
americucks will defend this
Rest in peace,Guac man
>>55049038
I'm a Democrat and if Bernie gets Jewed I pledge my vote to Trump. I'd rather see Canada burnt to ash than Shillary elected President.
If you recall Bush's 2000 platform ("compassionate conservatism"), it was not one of small government. Compassionate conservatism was more like "Forget all those liberal strawmen that Republicans want to take away old people's SS and children's school lunches actually I love giving anyone and everyone under the sun freebies too." Bush eventually tried to justify the bank/auto bailouts by saying something like "I must destroy the free market in order to save the free market."
And while you can argue that Reagan was not at fault for the AWB or 86 amnesty because the Democrats controlled the House, that excuse does not work for Bush because his party had Congress six of his eight years during which time they sponsored numerous large-scale entitlement packages.
>>55049112
I think BS is a senile idiot with no grasp of reality, but Hillary would be the worse because she's literally a corrupt, thieving criminal who belongs in a prison jumpsuit.
>>55049129
>Bush because his party had Congress six of his eight years during which time they sponsored numerous large-scale entitlement packages.
True. The problem was who those entitlement packages went to.
There's a reason people are pissed.
And Obongo is just as guilty.
>>55047608
Like you scum spreading your shit to other countries.
Sending spies and financing guerrillas,ultimately turning countries into shit
>>55049148
Fait enough. At least we can find common ground on anyone but Shillary.
I've been a Democrat all my life, but I will literally do anything to keep that demon out of office, even if I have to pass out rice crispy treats for Trump.
>>55049129
Consider the following.jpg
I think a large part of GWB's thinking comes from his religious background; the guy is a Methodist who believes almost naively in the fundamental goodness of mankind to the point where he had such sadly misguided ideas as thinking it was possible to turn shitskin savages in Iraq into liberalized Westerners who wear tight jeans, listen to rock music, and eat at Burger King.
PSA: the election is in fucking november. aka a billion years away. STOP TIHS TFUCKKING CAMPGAIGNING BULLLSHIT ALREADY FUCK
>>55049189
We tried to save you. I hope you remember that even if most Brazillians won't in the future.
Never forget that we tried.
>>55049174
Basically, the GOP tried to buy one voting block after another - Mexicans, soccer moms, old people, etc. All with huge handouts to each of those demographics. Though in all fairness the final apocalyptic disaster of the bailouts happened after the Democrats had Congress.
>>55049262
Good night,sweet prince.
I've never felt this way for another man before
>>55049223
Wow, do democrats really hate Hillary that much?
>>55049228
>turn shitskin savages in Iraq into liberalized Westerners who wear tight jeans, listen to rock music, and eat at Burger King
>tight jeans
>rock music
>Burger King
It's 2016, not 1985, dude. You mean yoga pants, wubstep, and Panera Bread.
>>55049189
>Like you scum spreading your shit to other countries.
Not my proplem if they are take it that shit.
>turning countries into shit
Being rich and soft worse than shit.
>>55049309
I can't say for sure but I don't forget how they all jumped ship to Niggy in 2008. The only demographic that Hillary can relate to in a personal sense are old lonely lesbian cat women.
>>55049287
That isn't true though. The bailouts were passed during the waning months of the Bush Presidency.
Not that it matters of course, it was damn near unanimous and incumbent Congressmen and Senators never lose elections anymore anyway. Had the vote been delayed three months it would have ended up exactly the same.
you're not a real american if you're not voting Trump
>>55046101
>all these monkeys in the audience making noise
is this how america is like?
>>55049309
Yes.
Also Trump isn't even really a conservative. I trust him more than Hillary who is a literal neo-con with a fat side of liar and criminality.
>>55049420
Seriously, how the fuck did she not go to jail for those emails when they proved she had the emails, and also deleted the evidence?
Biggest misstep that Bush made? Something not well remembered now, specifically McCain-Feingold which was a bill deliberately designed to destroy the 1st Amendment. The kicker is that Bush actually said "I oppose M-F; it's blatantly unconstitutional." and then went and signed it into law anyway.
The USSC did eventually chip away at M-F, but it's quite disturbing to think the easy potential for liberal activist judges like Ruth Bader Ginsburg to be in charge of deciding that.
>>55049364
I still wish he would have found his veto pen some time before the 08 campaign started.
>>55048912
How often Rethuglican do forget Reagan and the 86 amnesty.
>>55049548
I don't think it's a fair comparison firstly because Reagan never had a Republican House his entire administration, but secondly Bush supported amnesty when he had the lesson of the 86 one to draw from. If anything, the 86 amnesty should have proven enough that that didn't work, but it didn't stop him from trying an idea already found to be a failure.
>>55049599
True BUT all bills developed by Congress must receive approval from the president in order to become law.
>>55049624
That's true, however you must also understand that Bush never saw himself as the gatekeeper of Congress as some presidents did, rather as a co-partner of them. He quite seldom vetoed anything that landed on his desk, although in his defense he did also veto some bills that would have been an awful disaster for the country.
George W. Bush in a sense was the moderate bipartisan president every talking head on the cable news pines for, yet complains when they actually get.
>>55049463
We both know why. And the fact that even happened in this country is so fucking far beyond unacceptable I want to vomit.
>vote for this neocon for your democratic nominee
>don't worry about it voter, we're openly patronizing you by putting the weight of the DMC behind her
>don't examine her 30 years of failure and criminality
>just vote for her
>because we unironically think you're stupid enough to vote for an establishment republican who gets to pass as a democrat because she at one point in life probably had a gash
Yeah. I mad.
>>55049599
Besides, the total illegal immigrant population in 1986 was about two million, significantly less than what it had become by the 2000s. Amnesty might have at that time been a more viable idea.
>Blame Obama for being passive
>Support Passifism against the other guy.
American elections are fucking circus.
>>55049349
>Not my problem
>Literally paying for them to be retarded
Sure
>Being rich and soft worse than shit.
>I rather be poor than rich
Of course,you're Russian and therefore retarded.
I opposed McCain-Feingold like any sane person would, yet there's a quite credible argument for "money =/= speech". I don't agree with it, but it's a credible POV similar to my disagreement that flag burning =/= free speech.
Having said that, I think yes it was a tremendously dumb and irresponsible action of Bush to sign into law a bill that he outright said was unconstitutional.
>>55049792
Not my problem like I said before.
>>55049721
There's the argument that the amnesty bill sponsored by GWB wasn't amnesty in the sense that Obamacare wasn't SPHC, even though that would be the inevitable end result.
THe only one who offers real solutions to anything is actually Jeb, however weak he looks.
Of course the republicans, the most stupid of the already stupid Americans don't care about that. Hilarious.
For all his faults, it could have been worse than Bush. We could have had as president a literal traitor who threw away his Vietnam medals and marched in an antiwar protest with John Lennon.
And it was also profoundly unbecoming of John Kerry and Hillary Clinton as sitting Senators to accuse Bush of lying about Iraq's WMDs when both of them had previously said that Saddam Hussein had them, was going to use them, and was a danger to peace and stability in the region. Not to mention harmful to the war effort in Iraq which led to it dragging on longer and there being more deaths of US servicemen and Iraqi civilians that might have been avoided.
So yes, for all his faults, I'm forever grateful to whatever deity there is that Bush did get reelected instead of Lurch taking over the Oval Office.
>>55049916
>let's do the exact same stupid shit we've been doing the last 15 years!
>vote ¡Jeb!
No thanks
>>55049961
Okay so what is Trump going to do different? He doesn't even offer any politics he just blabber about BS "hurr durr make america great again hurr durr hit the establishment hurr durr win again". I actually chekced out his positions on his website and it doesn't even make any sense, he doesn't know what he's doing it's like a meme.
But it's not my election so guess it doesn't matter to me, just sad seeing a once great country getting this destroyed. This is a result of what was started in the 80s by Reagan btw, whether you can see it or not.
>>55049708
You say that as if there is any real difference between the top brass of liberals and conservatives.
>>55050011
I really really like those numbers
>>55049599
The border wasn't secured after the amnesty and we had several amnesties after
>>55049952
Bro pls. It's hard to believe anyone could have been worse than W. Whether you're liberal or conservative he was an objective failure from either viewpoint.
A president has six core functions - negotiate treaties with other countries, commander-in-chief of the armed forces, appoint ambassadors, cabinet selection, appoint judges and the veto. Three of the six concern themselves largely with security/international affairs.
Bush appointed two very good constitutional conservatives to the USSC. That will go down as one of the better elements of his legacy. It would have been nice if he'd vetoed bills more often, though TBF the Republican Congress under Dennis Hastert was absolutely terrible and practically Democrat Lite.
>>55046101
foolish guac bowl merchant
>>55050011
>Okay so what is Trump going to do different?
Not be completely full of shit for starters.
>>55050076
I know, I know. You only read the first sentence of the post you're replying to.
>>55049708
Ah hush. You democrats dont get to complain since it's obvious you're going to win now, and for the next couple of elections.
This is essentially your country for the next decade or 2.
>>55050021
That's why I'm mad, and that's why I'm voting for Trump when Bernie gets Jewed out of the nomination in favor for a corrupt criminal. Which WILL happen btw.
There needs to be consequences for fucking over your party members, it's high time the DNC learned that.
His conduct as CnC will make of him one of America’s three legendary war-strategist presidents: Washington, Lincoln, and Bush 43.
Bush 41 failed the Iraqis, Reagan failed the Marines in Lebanon, Truman and Eisenhower failed the Koreans, too many people to count failed the Vietnamese, FDR failed Eastern Europe by condemning them to 45 years of Russian rape, and Wilson was in league with nations hostile to American interests.
War-strategist CnC makes him a steadfast patriot president—if that makes him a conservative, at least in that one endeavor, so be it.
Everything else, an unmitigated Leviathan interventionist disaster. His domestic policies should make him a hero of the leftists, but their hatred of his defense of American interests abroad using armed forces made them blind to his common cause with them.
Fitting for his administration’s end are his last words that will ring forever with infamy: “I have abandoned free market principles.”
But, the even worse infamy his domestic legacy will bear consists of his creation of the Dept. of Homeland Security and its agency the TSA. Having taken over our airports, it will soon unionize.
Once its own union formed, TSA will strike.
>>55050138
I wonder if this Hillary campaign employee ever sleeps.
>>55050011
I just want to know how he plans to make Mexico pay for the fucking wall.
There's absolutely no way they will ever cave to that demand. I just don't understand how Trump plans to do it. Invade Mexico? Nuke Mexico? Is it really fucking worth it? An offensive that would needlessly cost lives and money and destroy any reputation we have in the international community?
I'm speculating of course but it's pretty sad that my speculation is more detailed than anything Trump has said on the matter. Any time he's pressed for more info it's always "I know a lot of really good people who I will bring in to work on this." That doesn't fucking answer anything!
>>55050097
>this is a convincing argument in America
I've seen your debates. It's just sad how stupid you people are at this point. Fat, lazy and degenerate no-good zombies. I think leadership reflects the people. In the 40s, 50s and 60s you were great people, so your leaders were also great. Look at FDR, do you think a leader like that could come in the 2010s? Can you find normal men with qualities like him?
>>55050138
I don't want to "win" if the candidate is a criminal neocon. That isn't a victory, that's a bait and switch.
I unironically think Trump is more economically progressive than Shillary.
>>55050213
Name me one position of ¡Jeb! that isn't:
>let's keep doing the same stupid shit! It's great!
I fucking dare you.
>>55050163
>I'm voting for Trump
He's not going to win the primary. He is as much a meme candidate as Bernie. Even if he does win, he's built up so much ill will that most republicans will only vote for him just to try and stop Hillary, and all the independents and most democrats will vote Hiillary to stop Trump.
Truly a time to be alive, where the main candidates of both parties are hated by said parties, and equally corrupt and/or stupid.
Are we gonna make it liberal-bro? I'm a conservative, but this election has actually made me kinda scared for the future.
>>55050321
>He's not going to win the primary
Which? He already won the most inoortant one and has a ten point lead in the next, which is the primary that traditionally seals the nomination.
>>55050321
>Are we gonna make it liberal-bro?
Honestly I doubt it.
>>55046101
Trump speaks the truth. It's weird.
>>55050443
M-maybe we can hope for a president so weak, we can safely secede with no penalties and start over?
>trump
>literally has the sanest foreign policy, economic, immigration, and social views of any politician while still being down to earth and against special interests
>media hates him for "racism"
WHY
Trump is just the american Berlusconi, deal with it
>>55050514
I don't want to live Canadians again, secession isn't an option.
There's no reason the US can't get it together though. All it will take is both parties getting shit in their mouths come November. The Americsn people are clearly no longer buying the bullshit the centrists are selling.
>>55046267
Most of these people don't care about that. Bush knew there were no WMDs in Iraq. But Haliburton needed profits. F35 is a disaster, and they try to replace A-10 with it. After the New Deal reforms there were no financial crises. There were jobs and growing incomes.
At some point the Roman empire had paper legions. They were paid wages which were pocketed by senators. When a hegemon gets corrupted, its elites stop giving a fuck about anything except how to extract money and power for themselves.
David Harvey was once speaking to some investment bankers at Wall Street and mentioned that there is a very real possibility that the US will become a failed state. Their answer was: "So you think we should get villas in France?"
>>55046101
I am currently reading The Making of the President, 1960 by White and Jesus Christ, what the fuck happened to you, America? You guys had horribly tough primaries because there were that many great politicians. Now it's more about who will do the least damage.
>>55050399
>won the most inoortant one
which?
>>55050584
Muslims and illegal Mexican immigrants are races now. Don't ask me to explain it, I'm not retarded.
>>55050713
NH, but you could also say SC because he's going to win that too. SC won't vote for Mexicans.
>>55050321
Bernie is literally controlled opposition
>>55046101
Why is he going after the 5th placed candidate (out of 6)?
It's weird. He treats Jeb as if he's right on his tail.
>>55050795
personally hates him
>>55050795
Jeb is the ultimate "Establishment" candidate and a big part of Trump's appeal is that he is anti-establishment
Also I think Trump genuinely hates Jeb and the Bush family
>>55050694
>F35 is a disaster
Stopped reading here
>>55050795
easy pickings
>>55050781
you mean trump. He's a Dem plant
>>55050795
No one like Jeb. He needs to be taken down a peg or five.
>nepotism and 150 million dollars means i get to be president
Mcfucking kill yourself.
>>55050694
>Bush knew there were no WMDs in Iraq.
How did they know?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war#Chemical_and_biological_exports
>>55048005
Except I think his supporters like his policies. They don't like blacks or hispanics and they want a president who just extracts resources from them and gives them to minorities, meaning Hillary, but they also want higher wages and spend government money on roads rather than wars. I think quite a few of them would hold their noses, due all those blacks, and vote Bernie rather than some cuckservative.
>>55050917
The ulterior motive is just too perfect
>>55050694
>After the New Deal reforms there were no financial crises. There were jobs and growing incomes.
There was a financial crisis in 37-38 and the 50s was peppered with recessions, fucking kill yourself.
>>55048533
t. Cuck
Free shit is best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPJfKdp3bDs
>>55050922
>who just extracts resources from them and gives them to minorities, meaning Hillary
you mean Bernie
Blacks still like the Clintons but not as much now despite Bill Clinton's policies not helping them.
>>55050209
He will make them pay by stop sending them foreign aid packages and use that money to build wall.
C'mon Juan is it that hard to figure out?
>>55048161
yeah but at least you have free health care unlike me who has to pay a whopping $26 a month. fuckin billionaires squeezin me dry man
You Americans have to elect Trump
>>55051007
Don't bother taking russian shill posts seriously senpai
>>55049952
>a literal traitor who threw away his Vietnam medals and marched in an antiwar protest with John Lennon.
How is expressing political opinions treason?
>>55049073
So what if there not enough of qualified personal? You need a specific skills, those native pop can't provide. What will you do?
how do non-americans not want trump? Imagine all the memes and funposting.
>implying your day to day life will be any different regardless of who is president
It's the congress that actually matters. The presidency is for fun.
>>55051082
>>55051007
Right...
>The New Deal was a series of domestic programs enacted in the United States between 1933 and 1938
New Deal failed because it did not reach back in time to prevent a financial crisis
t. You
>>55051033
Bernie does class based policies.
Has anyone noticed how funny Trump sounds when he says "millions". Same for "billions".
I like saying it like Trump, "we have spent _billions_ of dollars". Ha ha, billions.
>>55051176
>7 years into the new deal
>another crisis
>this means the new deal was working
>let me post an image which has easily debunked implications that have nothing to do with my retarded position
t. You
Shouldn't expect much from Bernie fans desu
>>55051197
and most of the people that will benefit from them are black and hispanic
>>55049952
>We could have had as president a literal traitor who threw away his Vietnam medals and marched in an antiwar protest with John Lennon.
Don't see how this makes him a traitor. Bush literally went awol.
>>55051197
Then why is he for civil rights? That literally has nothing to do with class
>separate but equal
>>55046101
Anyone that doesn't vote Trump should be hanged for treason
>>55051007
Correct; there were three recessions during Eisenhower's administration and real GDP growth averaging 1-2% a year.
Watching the American elections is like watching Big Brother or something.
This shit is crazy.
Jeb "Please clap for me" Bush isn't winning.
