Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
The universe began to exist.
Therefore, the universe has a cause.
If the universe has a cause, then that cause is spaceless, timeless, immaterial, enormously powerful, an "agent" cause, immutable and beginningless.
Therefore, a personal, enormously powerful and beginingless Creator exists who, sans the universe, is timeless, spaceless and immaterial.
>>53948327
That is some weak ass logic
Also Bait
>>53948327
you're a loser lol
RELIGIOUS NUTS ABSOLUTELY BTFO
>>53948327
>we don't know how the universe started so therefore my one God out of the millions humanity has worshipped is the right one
>Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
Proofs?
>The universe began to exist.
Proofs?
>Therefore, the universe has a cause.
Proofs?
>If the universe has a cause, then that cause is spaceless, timeless, immaterial, enormously powerful, an "agent" cause, immutable and beginningless.
Proofs?
>Therefore, a personal, enormously powerful and beginingless Creator exists who, sans the universe, is timeless, spaceless and immaterial.
Proofs?
>>53948327
>Atheists btfo
Not exactly, this argument has been around for a while and we still don't have a definitive answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalam_cosmological_argument
>>53948366
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>>53948707
Hello newfriend. :^)
>>53948830
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>>53948327
>Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
>The universe began to exist.
I disagree. The conservation of energy and mass holds that nothing is ever lost or gained. Thus, the universe never 'began' to exist and has instead always existed.
>>53948620
>seriously implying academics have to prove things are true in order to consider them such
Learn science.
>>53948366
>i have nothing to say so i will just say its bait
>Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
Who's to say the universe never existed?
>>53948327
>there has to be a cause
Wonky but let's say it's true
>the cause has to be sentient
No
>>53948970
Science doesn't point to truth.
It's the best explanation we can muster based on observation.
It's constantly changing thanks to changes in technology.
We don't regard the science of 500 years ago as truth, and people 500 years from now will certainly not consider our science to be truth.
>>53948366
What happens here?
>>53948690
> Why doesn't God create rock so heavy he can't lift it
> Why doesn't God do logical impossibilities
Why do atheists make up chart then deny the premise that evil exists?
> morality is a social constructs
>xxxx bc
>smoke weed
>imagine stupid shit
>"guys what if we were created by an all-powerful being"
>"pass the weed bro"
and a religion was born
>>53949086
caribbean boipussy
>Protestants in charge of theological arguments.
>we don't know something
>IT WAS GOD
welcome to the never ending hell that is theological debate
>>53948945
Just learned this in middle school mate?
>>53949104
>Why do atheists make up chart then deny the premise that evil exists?
Because suffering exists.
There are some who have no voices
Or none that will ever speak
Because of the things they know about this world
And the things they feel about this world
Because the thoughts that fill a brain
That is a damaged brain
Because the pain that fills a body
That is a damaged body
Exists in other worlds
Countless other worlds
Each of which stands alone in an infinite empty blackness
For which no words are being conceived
And where no voices are able to speak
>>53949184
Yep, it was so enlightening, the teacher was even handing out fedoras, I have to hide it from my parents though or they might kick me out
>>53949138
>Catholics in charge of Aristotelian metaphysics
>>53949272
>metaphysics
>le universe has to have a beginning meme
Stop
>>53949125
This is cringeworthy.
>>53949317
prove me wrong
>>53949138
>>53949306
>>53949272
>>53949317
Like Hinduism?
>>53949348
When your denomination has an apostolic tradition then you can talk shit about transubstantiation.
>>53949442
*tips menorah*
Nice try, polytheist.
>>53949492
>The guy who was born 1500 years after Christ died had the right idea about the nature of god.
>>53949213
Ah the problem of SUFFERING rather. That's an easy one to resolve. You don't even need God for this. Just kill yourself.
>>53949556
>implying Christianity isn't fanfiction of the Tanakh
>implying G_d can be killed
>>53949556
Jesus would not want a pope that claims himself to be infallible.
>>53949879
>I know what Jesus would want
>>53950318
Jesus said what he wanted, and some guys wrote it, implying it was real, ofc.
>>53950318
>jesus would want some random guy to claim that he is the direct word of god and has the right to change the bible
k.
>If the universe has a cause, then that cause is spaceless, timeless, immaterial, enormously powerful, an "agent" cause, immutable and beginningless.
That is some leap
>>53950400
>implying that's not exactly what he did with the apostles.
>>53948327
>Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
Then why the hell do you exist?
