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Discuss urban developement, design, planning, urbanization, growth and future of cities, urban life style etc. All discussions about architecture, it's impact on daily life, trends(both historical and contemporary) and anything related to architecture in general, are welcomed here aswell.


Post pics of cities, urban areas, buildings, physical structures and infrastructure. Comment and rate.
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Never enough Łódź in these threads.
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I recommend this documentary and in special this chapter that is about the evolution of the architectonic design, planning and urbanization of the XX century. The documentary is narrated by the famous australian critic of arts, Robert Hughes. Very interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C04JZsoqs1A
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>>53715816
for you El Polaco !Cua0D5T/Q this old blog about architectonic plans in Madrid, Barcelona and other cities... but is in spanish.
http://www.urbanity.es/
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>>53716579
>lets shock people!
>shouldn't we try to please them?
>no lets shock them! And maybe in 50 years time they will finally start liking what we built, but if not, who cares, we'll be dead by then anyway
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Chimneys = cozy
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Almansa Castle

The castle is a moral lesson that stands proclaiming the grandeur of soul of the Spaniards of the Reconquist, who for the love of Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary and the Holy Catholic Church gradually populated Spain with castles as they took back the country so that Muslims would never even think of returning. If they did, they would find this whole network of castles standing in their way.
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>>53716784
Gracias! Será divertido para leer estos artículos!
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Verona, Italy
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Bologna, Italy
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Paris, France
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Barcelona, Spain
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Istanbul, Turkey
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Malbork, Poland
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Vancouver
http://vancouver.ca/files/cov/Greenest-city-action-plan.pdf
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Segovia, Spain
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That feel when left OPs picture for a place with 6k inhabitants
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>>53719420
I like Vancouver
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>>53719760
Why?
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>>53720721
I really like the style they've got going.
Especially that building in front of the two tall ones on the right.

It looks like someone plopped a 3 story house on top an apartment building.
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>>53719760
Viviste en España, amigo?
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>>53721330
I lived in another city but had to move here in the end
>>53724181
For 20 years
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>>53724505
How did you end up in Sweden?
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>>53724591
I spent a semester in Denmark and visited Sweden on holidays
I liked it and got a job so I moved after a few months

Have a cute video of Oslo https://vimeo.com/39470129
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>>53716579


thanks ill see this
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>>53724505
That's ebin, and why Spain?
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>>53724897
Cheers. How are you dealing with Swedish winter? Do you live in the south or north?
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>>53725791
>>53725791
frozen wastelands

only singapore
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>>53725434
Because I'm Spanish
>>53725791
I go to Spain to get my sunlight fix during Christmas
I live in the south, close to Denmark
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R8 lads, it's called Alwyn Court.
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>>53725994
Was actually some crazy frost all over my county this morning.
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>>53726180
looks good definitely

but I think it's a bit too much?
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>>53726136
Qué guay, España es genial. Cuáles son sus lugares favoritos en Madrid y en España, por ejemplo en su opinión los más bonitos o los más magníficos etc.
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>>53726417
That's what it's know for here funny enough. It's ornate as hell.
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>>53726639
Interior.
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>>53726639
it's pretty nice but what I love most about American architecture is neoclassicism, art deco and some modern stuff aswell
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>>53726560
One of my favourite places is >>53719760
The nature is also nice around Madrid, there's a mountain range called Sistema Central. I've gotten into hiking so it's become one of my favourite places (the pictures on Google don't make it any justice).
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>>53726180
Pretty crazy ornamentation, but in a way subtle. Seems like the kind of building where you have to get up close and personal to really notice all the detail, as judging by pictures, it looks very standard from afar.
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>>53727077
You're right actually, from afar you can basically only make out small indents. Another one of my favorite buildings the old Police Building.
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>>53727793
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>>53727050
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>>53727999
Interior.
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>>53728143
Flat Iron.
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>>53727793
>>53727999
Sweet dome, and definitely the star here. The body itself is pretty nice too, although I've never been a fan of grey neo-classicism.
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I like Birmingham and there is literally nothing you can do to stop me.
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>>53728402
It's really common here.
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>>53728529
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>>53728383
Manhattan Municipals.
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>>53728725
Lots of buildings.
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>>53728529
>>53728584
Birmingham is nice to some extent, but there is nothing that remarkable about it. It doesn't seem to have much of an identity compared to other UK cities, which is odd for a "second largest". That said, I never did much more than loiter around the station when stopping by.
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best church ?
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>>53730451
>churches
Takbir!
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>>53731140
to be fair some mosques are pretty based aswell
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>>53730451
Hard to say. There are almost too many good ones out there.
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>>53731422
Oops, I meant to post a mosque that's pretty close to where I live, but failed to shitpost.
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>>53731604
Atleast we should agree than nothing outside of France, Germany, Italy, and the UK comes close
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i' ve been up there
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>>53727995
>>53720721
I did till I actually went to Vancouver, go off the beaten path and you're going to be praying you don't get stabbed to death by a Chinese heroin addict.

Fuck Vancouver
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>>53718114
Is that a mosque?
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>>53730451
Been there. Florence. Climbed up the tower.

How? As Ezio.

(But also in real life, it's a great church)
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>>53731914
I wouldn't purely keep it to those. Spain, Switzerland, Austria, Belgium and The Netherlands have many good ones too. Most European countries, even in the east, seem to have at least one top-tier church.
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Hotelli Torni tampere
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>>53733190
Hotelli Torni Helsinki

which one do you like the most
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>>53732261
lol
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>>53732959
ah yeah Spain, Austria and Belgium too but the rest? what good churches do they have?

also there is not good churches in the East, all Polish churches are ugly red brick desu
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Aleksanteri katu Helsinki
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Redi currently being build in Helsinki
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>>53733190
>>53733238
Hotelli Torni in Tampere looks decent at night. It's obvious it had a tight budget otherwise. Hotelli Torni in Helsinki is nicer and more valuable, not only because it's 85 years old, but also because it's an interesting example of the transition between historical and modern architecture.

>>53733438
Domtoren is probably the most notable one in The Netherlands, but just look at Amsterdam's skyline, and you'll see quite a few nice spires. Switzerland is probably the least impressive of them, yeah, but the Bern Minster is at least quite nice.
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>>53730426
I tend to forget about London. It isn't something I need to think about. It has top business, it has top old architecture, it has density, it has sme good new architecture, it has a zillion different things being built. It's fine.

So forget London.
That leave Birmingham as the only city in the UK with a big city feel, in my opinion. It even has a (not great) skyline.
The buildings have some density. It feels like a place with white-collar jobs, whilst most other cities, in my opinion, still feel pretty blue collar and sort of... unimportant
I would hope that Birmingham would become a fashionable city. But the demographics are a problem.

I think it depends how quickly Birmingham can escape from 20th century architecture. It has many ugly buildings, definitely, and will probably have an ugly skyline for the new decade at least. But on street-level, there are some low-rise buildings which are modern, yet look alright.
I have seen a few images of a Scandinavian city which had an entirely modern region, and also a Polish city which had an entirely modern neighbourhood. All low-rise. And they looked decent. Decent designs. We don't have that in England. I cannot think of a single post-Victorian plan that actually looks good. Birmingham might eventually become that.
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>>53734687
>I cannot think of a single post-Victorian plan that actually looks good.

Apart from Poundbury, of course! Pic related
But Poundbury only looks good because it was designed to look traditional.
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>>53734107
I've been to Switzerland.

Yeah it looks clean, nice, rich, developed, mountains are fucking awesome and all but ... not my thing honestly. Not "lively" enough for me.
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>>53734943
It is quite quaint, and that's probably its charm to many. As for Polish churches, there's nothing wrong with red brick, m'family. Aside from that, you still have the Jasna Góra Monastery, which even has its own badass fortress.
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>>53732959
Let's not forget Sweden which has great churches imo.
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>>53735187
>As for Polish churches, there's nothing wrong with red brick, m'family
it sucks
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>>53733900
nice
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Paleo-Christian architecture in Ravenna (6th century)
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>>53735461
Personally I find Swedish churches to be a mixed bag. Many of the old ones were renovated to look more like "continental" European churches than their original forms, such as Uppsala Cathedral and even Lund Cathedral, which had its historic towers purposely torn in the late 19th century. The Riddarholmen Church and German Church in Stockholm are alright, though.
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>>53735585
I like them, and I find their brick-work to be really impressive. Then again, most larger Nordic churches from the 19th century are of brick, so maybe I've just been too exposed to them.
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>>53737508
So imposing too.
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>>53738544
Urban walls like these are intriguing.

>tfw you'll never see the famous 1km long polish commie
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post your fav skyscraper
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>>53733711
>beautiful architecture and people

>almost no non whites

Tfw you will never live in Helsinki
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>>53741815
frozen wasteland tho
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>>53741887
are you korean?
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>>53742632
no
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>>53741336
wew lad
Too many options there, so I'll narrow it down to my favourite building over 400 metres, in which case it would be this. I just like its smooth surface and curvy shape, plus it goes well with its sister towers.
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>>53741336
I actually really like the One World Trade Center. It's a little generic, but it looks so nice and smooth.
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>>53744570
Pudong is unbalanced now though

and I hope Shanghai will get more projects later and Pudong will be more dense
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this building on the right of the picture is 370m tall lol

looks like idk 150
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>>53745652
Depends what angle you look at it from.
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>>53746046
Even from the usual touristy view, Pudong was already unbalanced. I'd say Shanghai Tower balanced it more, because it's on opposite sides of the similarly tall Shanghai TV Tower, both with clusters surrounding them, which creates for a sort of symmetrical frame. All they need is a couple mid-sized towers to fill the gap in the middle with. You can even see it's perfectly aligned with the building with the balls in the middle down there.
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>>53746356
>All they need is a couple mid-sized towers to fill the gap in the middle with.
yeah this reee
>centre of the largest city in 1.3 billion country
>not dense
it's triggering me what the chinese are doing
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>>53715701
I love those towers. They aren't even supertall for world standards (nothing in Europe is) but they look awesoe in person and in photos
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>>53746823
>(nothing in Europe is)
Federation Tower(Moscow)
OKO(Moscow)
Mercury City Tower(Moscow)
The Shard(London)
Eurasia(Moscow)
Capital City(Moscow)
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>>53746823
As for these towers in Madrid they are really nice and have decent height but they need some lower highrises surrounding them to form a decent skyline. For now it looks kind of empty.
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mies
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>>53751359
wew, just realized the thread was on page 11 there.
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>All this awesome places I'll never visit
Sigh.
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>>53752466
DELET THIS
but sure. Anything goes, as painful it might be.
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>>53752466

Why they built it like pieces of tetris?
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>>53752585
ESÉ, share some nice cherrypicked photos of Mexico with us.
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>tfw you'll never live here
why live
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>>53752666
I really don't know, it's soviet era i think, it's by the sea and green so maybe loads of farmers moved there at once, that's the china story at the moment i thort?

here's some glorious victorian not giving a shit about the poor
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>>53752683
Ok
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>>53752950
Nice. How does the exterior look?
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>>53753367
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>>53744863
i stood at the base and looked up to the top and got a dizzy spell i almost fell backwards very strange, gonna go to the observation deck when i get some time
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>>53753522
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>tfw you'll never live on a comfy deserted island
why even bother
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>>53751529
nice you saved it :D
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Anyone else's city been demolishing these horrific things lately?
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>>53753367
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>>53744863
it's really nice, quite the skyscraper you would expect in NYC

I think it will get iconic after some time just like twin towers before
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i dont know which skyscraper is my favourite lol

but Taipei 101 is nice
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>>53754142
Speak of the devil, I was just reading up about the Red Road Flats a minute ago. Quite weird to think the whole cluster to the right here is gone.
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>>53754142
>>53754361
what are those
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>>53754385
They were apartment blocks built in the 60s in Glasgow when the city council wanted to move loads of people out of the city centre into the suburbs but had nowhere to put them. They are all over the city and all of them are hideous but the red road flats are probably the most famous.

They were demolished in 2015 but it was a disaster and two of them stayed half upright for days so they had to create an exclusion zone around them in case they fell down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvJi0ses9AA
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>>53754385
Big commies in Glasgow that ended up being demolished because 3rd world tier ghettos formed around them. Oh well,
RIP in pieces. Forgotten, but not missed.
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>>53754480
>move loads of people out of the city centre into the suburbs
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desu, I actually really like some of the stuff they've got in Detroit. So far the Guardian Building takes the cake for me
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>>53741336
Not really a skyscraper, but one of my favourite buildings. Looks otherwordly af
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>>53754552 Here's the interior. It's some brilliant Art Deco, imo
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>>53754570
whats the reason for that?
only for being a unique snowflake?
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>>53754531
honestly if you look up pictures of some of the slums in Glasgow in the 20s and 30s you can see why they wanted to do it.

Loads of the centre of Glasgow got fucked by German air raids in the war too.
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>>53741336
432 Park Ave

(just kidding)
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>>53746733
You realise 20 years earlier the entirety of pudong was made of crops/parks

ou don't build a HK/ NYC by snapping you fingers
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>>53754651
>Loads of the centre of Glasgow got fucked by German air raids in the war too.
N-no
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>>53754717
dont worry friend, all good now
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>>53754552
you what
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>>53754837
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>>53754717
pay reparations for warsaw
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thank you based Saarinen
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>>53754850
There's some pretty decent skyscrapers and church buildings around the city. Back when it was loaded with industrial cash they spent it on some of the most expensive buildings in the world at the time. Pic related
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average polish city
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>>53754903
give back königsberg and car
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most beautiful city in poland
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>>53754480
>>53754531
Well, they were actually meant to replace the infamous Glasgow slums, and give the poor inhabitants a chance at proper living. Quite ironic the area started out filthy and ended filthy.

>>53754552
>>53754571
I like the Book Tower a bit more. Its form is so unique, and the crown is fantastic. Shame it's in Detroit, among other good skyscrapers.
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>>53755028
im headding to krakau this year i hope.
going to visit auschwitz and a few days around the city.
kurwa much
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>>53755045
True. When you drive into the city from the main highway, Book Tower pokes out just above the other skyscrapers, crowning the western skyline.
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>>53755021
we dont have it
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>>53755201
but you know the guy who has it.
both.
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I really like lots of places of El Paso. It's a bit small but I go there on a regular basis, so I know a lot of nice buildings and areas, though they're not exactly tall.

I have a video of a really neat shopping center. It's the most hipster shit ever, but it's quite unique in case anyone's interested
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new supertall growing in LA
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>>53755269
Looks pretty typical American, but nice. And please do share.
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>>53754694

I actually like 432 Park Ave

everyone else seems to hate it
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>>53755546
I mean, nobody really asked for a really plain overly minilast skyscraper inspired by a trash can to dominate the NYC skyline...
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>>53755546
it's not ugly or something it's minimalistic, we'll see how it looks like when the other slim skyscrapers will be built
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>>53755445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cnzlAS-h4I

As small as it is I don't think I did it justice. Sadly though this is a fairly new area in a pretty much Everytown, America so you won't find much pictures about it online. There is another one about in on YT though, but it was clearly made during an event.
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>>53755677
kek

it's true though
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>>53755546
>The Twin Towers didn't fall they just stacked on top of each other
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>>53755677
>dominate the NYC skyline...

yeah for all of like 2 years until the other supertalls catch up

the three in the foreground are all already like 10 stories tall
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>>53755749
Jet fuel can't glue steel beams
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can someone nuke this country?
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>>53755749
keeeek
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: ^ )
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>>53727040
This building is huge. You really can't tell in pictures.
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Parsons The New School of Design, NYC
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>>53756274
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>>53741336
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>>53756274
Just walked by that yesterday. It's so great

also, SOON
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>>53756424
>mfw having been there in 2011
back then it looked exactly the same regarding to the fence etc.
the only thing that changed is this white construction.
what did they do for 4 years?
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>>53741336
Makes me comfy
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>>53756135
I think it looks amazing desu senpai
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>>53756352
it's really impressive

though I regret it doesn't have any Korean features (like Taipei 101 or Jin Mao Tower are clearly inspired by traditional Chinese architecture)

it's more like Shanghai Tower, very tall, monolithic and international looks
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>>53756135
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>>53756503
please not this :D
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>>53756714
>Chrysler Manlet
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>>53756474

building underground around moving trains in lower manhattan takes a long time
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Espoo Finland
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>>53756755
>>53756744
checked
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>>53756744
shiiieeet thats neat from the inside
looks a lot like the towers
seems as i have to visit nyc again soon
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This shit in my city is weird af. Not sure if good or bad.
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>>53734178
is this from russian disneyland?

looks fake
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>>53756907
Forgot pic lol
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>>53754142
actually those are cool and good

they also work pretty well when you don't fill them up to the brim with poors/immigrants
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Here is another thing from El Paso, it's the newest big mall/shopping center they've built. It's really pretty and it's great to walk through it at night (just not when it's windy cause it's out in the open)
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>>53756973
That looks like it was made out of kiddie building blocks.
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>>53757507
You like this place better.
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>>53755300
earlier this month
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>>53760581
>>53755300
Scares me to be honest. I have an irrational prejudice against the LA skyline
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>>53761680
why? it's pretty iconic I'd say

thuogh pretty small too
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>>53720721
>>53719420
Shit this is what Vancouver looks like? When was some of that stuff built? I haven't visited in 19 years.
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>>53764665
Iconic, yes, but I've always felt it to be a little boring. I do like the gradually rising and falling heights, though. Not many cities have it as nice as LA does. I'm partial to art deco and glass, so the small window modern and international look just doesn't suit my fancy
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>>53764800
yeah this is what Vancouver looks like
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>>53764817
yes it's pretty boring I must say probably if not for the mountains it wouldn't be so good

but the new supertall will be a nice addition, it will have completely different cladding so it will make the skyline more lively
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Yarm school auditorium, winner of a RIBA prize.
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>>53765196
And Yarm itself.
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Schwalbach am Taunus
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>>53765225
comfy/10
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>been away for over 8 hours
>thread still alive
Truly a Christmas miracle. Good morning, f@ms.

>>53765433
Wew, there's one of these things in Spain too.
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>>53767795
y ppl do this
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>>53768551
Not sure myself. It's so weird lol.
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why people do this : o
>>53768882
great pic
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>>53769245
I was watching live on TV when that one burgerdude walked across the Marina Towers and some nearby skyscrapers in Chicago like this. Was pretty intense.
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>>53769245
>great pic
yes, and to think the city looked like this less than 30 years ago
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>>53769481
much better than polan
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>>53769481
and looks very american
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>>53770661
Poland has a lot of nice historical centres tho, which is something Norwegian cities severely lack.

>>53770697
It kind of does, even to this day.
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Gdansk, Poland
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St. Mary's Church in Lubeck, Germany is fantasy novel-tier.
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>>53771237
>Poland has a lot of nice historical centres tho
2 of our 3 largest cities don't really have anything one because it became a city quite recently and the second one because it was 90% destroyed during WW2

but yeah we have some nice centres

Norway had a really low population in the Middle Ages and later on, I guess it couldn't really support making of any historical centres besides Oslo
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>yfw http://www.domusweb.it/it/notizie/2016/01/14/matteo_cibic_torri_tim_all_eur.html
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The always underrated Seattle skyline.
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>>53771573
Danzig sure is nice.
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oh image limit
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new bread
>>53772313
>>53772313
>>53772313
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>>53771700
We were wealthy until the black death, so many buildings are still standing from medieval times, even if it's mainly churches. After the black death most our population died off and we were annexed. But most "historical" buildings here came during the 19th century, as it was the first time in centuries Norwegian money actually went to Norwegian land. A lot was lost during WW2, but mainly in smaller towns.
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>you will never be a criminal living off grid in an asian superdense lawless city

Kowloon walled city is something that interests me greatly. I wasn't even a sentient being when they destroyed it. A super populated almost anarchist city and somewhat proof that human beings will make do anyway possible.It had many business, from little stores to pasta production and unlicensed dentistry. Is there anywhere like it today in the world?
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>>53771797
I love how these are all set up so that the Space Needle is huge compared to all the other skyscrapers when in reality its not very tall and it's highly overrated. I like the city a lot though, or else I wouldn't live here.
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