I hope I dont offend anyone, but how comes everything about England is so ugly?
Their houses, their food, their people, even their weather.
It can't be a coincidence, can it?
Nope it's a depressive shithole
Have you ever seen one of those typical English TV shows? They make you want to kill yourself
Looks more OCD friendly and designed with attention to the last detail than Germany does.
>you will never be an impoverished chav living in a council estate in Hull causing petty crimes on a daily basis and terrorizing your elderly neighbors.
WHY LIVE
>>53272562
Wish the terraces near me were made from lovely brick.
All we have is worthless mundic.
desu i like the style of the english town houses a lot
>>53272562
It's how we rebuilt everything during the depression after you bombed it, arsehole
>>53272707
Most of these impoverished people own a house made of bricks...
Meanwhile in the USA, you belong to the middleclass if you own a wooden hut in the desert.
I thought we had it bad, then I travelled. Now the UK is very dear to me.
>>53272596
such is the life of the lower class
>>53272562
Youre posting this like these are typiacl houses m8. Most of our houses are semi-detatched
>>53273025
Yeah, but this is what one imagines when one thinks of a british house
>>53272562
Around what year were these built?
I guess around 1920 to 1930.
>>53273274
Then their imagination is incorrect. Youll only find these in preserved neighbourhoods up north
>>53273367
Plenty of terraces in London, although the style is different to the ones in the OP. Sash windows are mostly on the townhouses, Victorian and Edwardian terraces don't look like that either.
Terraced houses with the old yellow stock bricks can be gorgeous 2bh
>>53272562
yet those are better than your commieblocks
>>53272984
>hut in the desert.
You don't know much about the U.S. do you? Our middle class houses are generally bigger than European homes and like most countries the majority live near the coast (39% actually live in countries bordering the coast). No one really lives in the desert unless your some kind of religious nut.
>>53272562
Industrial revolution m8
>>53273467
Most Germans don't even own houses they rent as you said little commie block apartments.
>>53273462
Well London too. Anyway, these are rare elsewhere. The closest to it there is where I live are those big georgian terraces that are basically terraced mansions
>>53273324
After ww2 most likely
>>53273594
Yes, I believe the vast majority of housing stock in the UK is semi-detached.
>>53272984
>middleclass if you own a wooden hut in the desert.
No, that's Bill Gates tier in America. The American middleclass live in houses made of plywood and cardboard.
>>53273324
Probably 1930s
Former /brit/ here. Britain is a depressing, dire, lonely place, to be honest. While there are a couple things that I'll miss, I don't regret leaving for a second.
>>53273756
Actually, I was surprised when I moved here that the wooden houses meme is only really true in a few places. Most homes here are solid brick. Only outer suburbs are cardboard meme houses.
>>53273542
Houses there are expensive as fuck.
I know 2 Germans that own their own small business and they still live with their parents. One guy has 12 employees.
>>53273594
Have you never traveled around your country? They're everywhere, from north to south and from small towns to big cities. To say that they are only in a couple areas is laughable.
>>53275074
Do you not understand what the word 'rare' means?
>>53274241
Where were you born m8?
>>53272562
That doesn't resemble anything in my town, m8. The UK is a great place to live, and the more I've travelled and the more I've learnt about the world the more I thank my lucky stars I was born here.
>>53272694
Why does Macedonia always have dumb posts bros?
>>53272562
They look cosy for terrace houses.
>>53275810
Is that a fucking mosque?
>>53272562
They exported all their beauty.
>>53275868
yes.
>UKeistan
>not full of mosques
>>53275868
you're literally looking at the worst the uk has to offer
>>53275868
Obviously senpai.
>>53275868
Obviously... Is that shocking to Americans? The mosques in my city all have regular worshippers... While many Churches have been turned into museums.
>>53275868
the memes
it's true, all of it
>>53275964
>those wires seemingly going everywhere
So... Do people have suspiciously low electrical bills in that area?
>>53275915
Shut the fuck up toilet cleaner
>>53276038
wtf?
>euroPOORs
kek
>>53275935
>>53275964
I didn't want to believe the memes
Honestly, if you think there are better places to live than the UK then you're deluded, and selectively posting the poorest places we have to offer is proof only that even our lower classes get a solid brick house each with clean water and 1st world sanitation.
>>53275810
There's something....off about this picture....
>>53273662
Semi-Detached make up 26% of houses in the UK
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/6703/1750754.pdf
Page 11 has a list of house types and their percentage
ITT: It's bad to be working class shocker
Pic related is about 40 minutes away from central London on the tube
>>53275868
Are you racist or what?
>>53276142
>>53276012
Memes never lie
>>53276142
America is no better tbqh
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/15/michigan-muslim-majority-city-council-hamtramck-detroit
>>53276225
why does the pavement look so worn down?
>>53276308
>http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/15/michigan-muslim-majority-city-council-hamtramck-detroit
dude, that is satire
a lot of this country is "ugly" compared to some other places in europe because we were the first industralised country and a lot of the buildings are 19th century or older. plus the fact WW2 left us relatively untouched. but that's not to say there aren't plenty of beautiful places
>>53276305
kek
>>53276308
>>53276358
never mind, I thought you linked this
http://nationalreport.net/city-michigan-first-fully-implement-sharia-law/
>>53276225
this 2bh
I live in a fairly well off town in the North
These are average houses in my town
Semi-Detached ones with about the same floorspace are also common
>>53276214
Yes, so that makes them the most numerous types of house then according to your link, the 2nd most numerous were detached houses at 17%.
>>53272562
those houses look comfy.
>>53276503
Never said they weren't
>>53276516
Aareet marra! ha is Newcassel treatin yee? ah tek it yas enjoyin aaal it hez tuh offor?
>>53276174
I used to live in the UK. I happen know exactly what it is like. There are plenty of far better places to live.
>>53276225
Those houses are likely near a million quid.
>>53276638
are you that guy that claims he is from peterborough yet uses completely american spelling
>>53276475
Sorry lad, but those aren't anywhere near average. What city are you in. I'll show you the average.
>>53276683
Innit?
>>53276475
>>53276225
>t. Tory Eton Cunts
>>53276225
this looks like our east coast
>>53276827
>t. Poortherner
>>53276741
Yes, I still accidentally mix my spellings, but have tried to transition to American so that I'm not corrected at work.
>>53276747
All you're going to do go is spend half an hour looking for the shittiest house you can and then post it here
>>53272562
>yfw you realise 10 Downing Street, the public face of Britain, is a terraced council house
>>53272562
>I hope I dont offend anyone, but MEMES XD
>>53276353
I hope you're not referring to the brown foliage at the edge of the road. It is from the trees.
>>53276683
My parents one is worth half a million. They've been in it for around 30 years though.
Memes aside. This what white areas are like in England
>>53276747
>tell me about my country
he's right senpai
>>53276904
You can verify the data yourself.
>>53276940
looks racist
>>53276638
I live in the UK right now. The only possible way for me to have an even higher standard of life is to win millions on the lottery or something, and even then I'd just move to an even nicer place in this country. I'd concede that there are countries that might compete with UK but to say there are places much better than here is sheer fantasy. You're obviously bitter about something but that's your problem, son.
>>53276940
looks uh..fantastic
>>53276883
nah i've seen you a few times and i can tell you're not british from your writing style. you stay stuff like "a couple things" instead of "a couple of". your autism levels are off the charts
>>53276827
LOL, try champagne socialist Labour voting NW Londonfam.
that's why they conquered places with nice weather and food
>>53272562
Industrialization, shitty plebs and incest
>>53276948
I'm British you nonce.
>>53276964
Go away Emily Thornberry we don't want you here
>>53276908
Boston's Beacon Hill neighborhood reminds me of Downing St a bit.
Brick terraced homes in New England are worth quite a bit of dosh. Maybe you can buy some surface parking lot in Boston or a plot in some rural village in New England, plop some British brick terraced homes and flip them for a million dollars, kek.
>>53277006
in the shitholes we conquered the natives would regard a terraced british house as a fucking palace
>>53276973
Except I've posted proof on numerous occasions.
>>53276883
What a cuck
I lived in Texas as a child and I never resorted to using American spellings.
I remember doing some English test and the teacher marked me down for using the British spelling instead of the American spelling.
I complained but she didn't have any of it. My parents complained to the teacher, my home room teacher and the Principal, and it got remarked with the British spelling being correct.
I did two years of middle school but we lived in an area with quite a few British expats, so they accepted us using British English
>>53276939
Half a million when they bought it? Or now?
>>53277020
sorry m8 but your flag says otherwise
>>53276970
Or to move to CAN, AUS, or the US, which are all loads better
>>53273756
Bill Gates house is actually pretty nuts. Only 1/3rd of it is visible because it's build into a hill. Medina houses are nuts but his is next level. I helped do a fence for some amazon guy that lived out there for a summer job in high school, he spent 350k on a fence.
>>53277097
Epic yarn, Kirby. Sell that shit on kindle.
>>53276960
What do you mean?
I know they probably aren't average in a shithole, but I put they are an average house in my town
>>53277140
Nah
>>53277140
his point being that if he moved there his standard of life would basically be the same and he's right
>>53277097
Difference is that you were in school and I'm working professional. They don't put up with it in a professional setting, especially in sales.
>>53277161
Never lost my accent which is nice
My sister lost hers days after getting off the plane and when we moved back to the UK, we moved to the North and she picked up a Northern accent
>>53277227
>sales
So a professional bullshitter? Now I'm even more skeptical.
>>53277183
Either your town in made up exclusively of wealthy people, you confuse what those you associate with as the average, or you are blagging.
>>53275725
always? really
>>53277140
For white people all of those countries have almost exactly same standard of living. The only reason why people leave England for those cunts is mainly for the weather.
Also I can just tell you're not a brit. So stop pretending.
>>53277089
let's see it again then m8
>>53277209
Not really, your money goes much further elsewhere.
>>53277312
the weather (and standard of living) on the south coast of england is fucking great 2bh
>>53277312
They really don't. The standard of living in CAN, AUS, and America is heaps better.
>>53276747
I live in the small town of Brewood in South Staffordshire. Feel free to show us what the 'average' house looks like here.
>>53277376
Compared to a place like Florida, California, or most of Australia it can be quite shit most times. It might be great for brits but it is still overcast it seems more often than not.
I like overcast weather though so it doesn't bother me very much.
>>53277376
in fact I'd go as far as to say if I could afford to live anywhere in the world it would be in some little rural village on the south coast of england, literally the goatest place on the planet
>>53277431
none of that proves you're a UK citizen, just that you've lived/worked here
>>53277348
yes really, it would basically be the same with slight variations obviously
who are worse, chavs or slavs?
you brits are right. you're such a beautiful, kind, and aware people. you should stay in the uk and never ever visit the us. ever.
>>53277531
Not even close.
>>53277291
Page 10 if you are looking in a PDF viewer, marked as page 18 on the document and onwards
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUKEwjUjcefy5rKAhVBpA4KHSa0AMYQFggoMAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fylde.gov.uk%2Fassets%2Ffiles%2F4354%2FFylde-Borough-Council-Economic-Development-Strategy-Final.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHWydeOEqNnqFCEBcjDnOlwiPficg&sig2=cbfcbs4c2YKas52t5wxOyQ&cad=rja
I live in Fylde
>>53277582
Slav is much broader term 2bh so I'd have to go with them. Chavs are disagreeable people 99% of the time.
>>53277479
>it is still overcast it seems more often than not.
No it isn't.
'Seems' is not evidence hard facts from the met office is evidence and that hard evidence proves you wrong.
>"It is also furthest from the paths of most Atlantic depressions, with their associated cloud, wind and rain, so the climate is relatively quiescent."
>>53277608
Cheers m8
>>53275973
>nethercuckeds
>>53277582
We don't get many slavs around my area, but the ones we do are hard working and likeable. A Polish family brought some food of theirs to the last street party and we had a great time.
Unfortunately we live near a chav shithole, so if they find a reason to come here, then they just fuck our shit up
Fortunately, there isn't much of a reason for them to come here
>>53277431
you're 6 months older than me
$10,750
worth it?
>>53277631
Nice evidence you got there lad.
>>53277834
Depends on the area
>>53277631
You could get a larger house. But there's a reason people pay more to live in the UK than somewhere like America.
>>53277834
Would probably get obliterated by a tornado the moment you bought it
>>53277861
upper Michigan, but similar will be found all over the midwest
>>53276970
oh fuck off
>>53277834
>Not buying a 4 story mansion in Detroit for $500
lad....
>>53277427
>Staffordshire
simply lmao
>>53277898
That's why there's insurance
>>53277891
you're delusional just most brits
>>53277634
Average in your area is a price of 179k. Pic related semi-detached is a listing for 176k.
>>53277898
no tornadoes there
$17,000
>>53277916
these are over 10 hours drive from there
>>53277699
>>53277794
would you say the movie kingsman/legend is an accurate description of typical chav behaviour and mannerisms? I find their subculture interesting
>>53277910
So nowhere near Detroit?
What are jobs like around there? Is that in a bad part of town?
>>53277916
Then you would have to pay back taxes
>>53276142
The funny thing is that the UK is more fucked with mudslimes than Germany is... But I think Merkel will fix that... Wir schaffen das.
>>53277988
>Is that in a bad part of town?
not really
1% hsipanic
2% black
or if you are rich, build this for under $50,000
>>53277891
Having lived in both, I'd pay more to live in the US than the UK. The UK is thoroughly depressing and grim.
>>53277999
>the UK is more fucked with mudslimes than Germany is
lol no
>>53277991
>Paying taxes
>>53278045
>being a soft cunt
>>53278038
forgot pic
>>53277999
Were yoiu getting molested by 1000 muslims while you typed that m8?
>>53278038
looks like it could do with some paint and then it would be comfy
>>53278045
Global property markets > your personal preference
>being this wrong
>>53278077
Why would one enjoy shit weather, lower salaries, no space, higher costs, etc? Britain is essentially the US with everything good about it stripped away.
>>53277936
why is that funny? not that guy but staffordshire is fine. It has some very nice rural areas.
>>53277988
>What are jobs like around there?
sorry, missed this
Some jobs, mostly tourism and jobs at the university, some small factories making parts for the Big 3 in Detroit.
>>53278045
>>53278121
It is a matter of space. The US has space, so space is cheaply bought. The UK doesn't, so space is at a premium. It has nothing to do with desirability.
>>53277999
>But I think Merkel will fix that
she's a false prophet, give up on her m8
>>53278206
ayyyyy
>>53272562
this is why we take so many drugs here. we hate our lives.
>>53278206
Only criminal minorities live in those areas. Nobody of actual value lives like that in the US.
>>53278206
looks like west philly. is that west philly?
>>53278166
Well, you don't have to put up with bitter expats for a start.
>>53278291
girl on the right looks oddly American for some reason.
The US is less expensive because it's so much larger. Just Texas alone is 3x the size of the UK.
>>53273324
Ones with stone lintels like that are generally around 1890-1910
>>53278306
West Philly is gentrified, might be north Philly t.b.h.
Maybe Baltimore?
>>53278325
I did. Likely a third of my office was American Expats who would constantly complain about how shit the UK was. When the pound went off a cliff, I decided to fuck off to the US with them.
>>53278294
you lot have been cherry picking so I thought I would do the same, google 'american slums' or 'american projects' and there's literally tens of thousands of pictures like this, so get off your fucking high horses
>>53278390
Not west of 48th. It looks like Camden to me though.
>>53278225
If I wanted a massive house in the Scottish highlands or a massive house in Alaska, It would still cost more in the UK. There's plenty of space in both of these locations, but people will pay a premium to live somewhere like the UK, America is nice, but I don't want to live knowing a gang of niggers could ransack my house at any moment. Even if it means I have to pay a bit more for the privilege. Factors like this influence property markets across the globe. And they favour the UK over America.
>>53277376
>brits actually think this
>>53278306
it's detroit f.am
>>53278429
Don't be such a cunt.
>>53278430
Not cherry picking at all.
>>53278468
it's one of the most affluent areas on the planet Bruce
>>53278341
it's the loose fitting dress
>>53278481
Detroit's housing stock looks nothing like that. Housing like that is only found in the Northeast and maybe a few midwest cities like Chicago and Cinci.
>>53278517
For every picture of a grim looking area you post I can post one of a nice looking area, it's the exact definition of cherry picking.
>>53278531
I think he was memeing about the weather, the UK pretty much has the perfect weather imo
$20,000
build it yourself, comes as a kit
>>53278576
I haven't posted a single picture of a grim looking area, so I don't know what the fuck you are on about.
>>53278531
if a permanent windy overcast drizzle and "days" lasting 5-6 hours is your thing I suppose
>>53278574
well I googled 'detroit slum' and picked a random photo but as it turns out it's from an article about american slums so you could very well be right
>>53278583
>UK
>perfect weather
If you like grey skies, dampness, and a constant drizzle.
>>53278462
Delusional brits actually think this is how it works. Why is NYC more expensive than London if that's the case?
>>53278583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M36OGCfYp3A
>>53278590
>$20,000
*oops
*$35,000
this one is under $20,000
>>53278614
other americans have in order to support the same argument you are using
>>53273649
No American, it is also very possible they were made in mind to house (factory) workers. These types of houses are here too, they're small (because they needed a lot of cheap houses fast) and host enough space for one family.
>>53278686
A gust of wind would bring that down
>>53278640
lel the weather on the south coast is nothing like that, maybe it is up north
>>53278462
>but I don't want to live knowing a gang of niggers could ransack my house at any moment
How many here do you think live like this?
I know of none.
Not all of America is the stereotype that has formed on 4chan
>>53278691
Again, I'm British. I'm not an American citizen yet. Won't be for another year. The difference between me and them is that I've actually lived in the UK and know exactly what it is like.
>>53278729
No, there are many here that have been up for over 100 years.
Why do you even think this?
Because a few states have tornadoes?
>>53277144
>Bill Gates house is actually pretty nuts. Only 1/3rd of it is visible because it's build into a hill.
>you will never live in a Hobbit hole
>>53278738
Except it is. The British coast and British beaches are a damp, cold, hypodermic needle and takeaway wrapper-covered joke.
>>53278647
The southern England has the roughly same climate as France.
>>53278729
What? Those are more solid than wood framed houses, those are solid wood.
>tfw I will never mass produce GM cars in Detroit and live the American dream...
why live
>>53278769
and your argument is coming from a point of opinion and bias because you hated the UK enough to leave, I am trying to argue facts and the fact is there is about .02 difference between the anglo countries on the HDI index, therefore confirming what I;ve been arguing all along that the standrad of living in any anglo country is basically the same with slight variation
>>53272562
weather has an effect on everything and it's always so gloomy.
>>53278667
NYC is more desirable than London, in the same way the UK is more desirable than America.
>>53278842
Yes, Northern France, which is cool, damp, and rainy.
>>53278462
I hope your memeing because if you actually believe this garbage I feel sorry for you
>>53272984
>>53273756
Nice même.
>>53273542
Some of my family own their own houses but they live in the country side or are in banking in Frankfurt.
>>53278643
The vast majority of poor people in Detroit live in small single family bungalows. The only time you see row homes in the midwest, 9 times of out ten they are made of stone like pic related.
>>53278766
I'd say about 37% if I had to put a number on it.
>>53278716
>to house (factory) workers.
Holland gets it. These terraced houses, as we call them, are a relic of late 19th, early 20th century when there were a lot of active factories and mines and housing was needed. Most are being replaced with modern homes now because people don't want to live in them.
>>53278882
>UK is more desirable than America.
w e w
For you rich faggots
$95,000
http://www.naturallogcabins.com/Sleeping-Bear-Home.html
>>53278833
you really don't know what you are talking about, you're arguing from a point of complete ignorance, there are meteorological facts to back up my argument, the weather in southern england, particularly along the coast, is comparable to France, not really surprising though considering that they are only a few miles apart geographically speaking
>>53278855
HDI is an awful measure that uses meme stats.
>>53278904
I hope you're* memeing about me memeing.
>>53278928
Wow, try maybe 2%
>>53278888
Your impressive digits do nothing to mitigate your lies.
>>53278958
>$95,000
>rich
>ameripoors
>>53278941
>UK
>more desirable than America
Top lel, lads.
>>53278833
Some nice beaches in Wales or Cornwall. I doubt you've been to all the beaches in Britain.
>>53278965
Yes, rainy, damp, cool northern france, not warm, sunny Mediterranean france.
>>53277967
Sorry m8 I've never seen either of those. I'm not sure the Kray twins were typical, they were pretty hardcore criminals in their prime. The area they grew up in would be a working class kind of place where you might find chavs, but still some decent people who wouldn't really fit the chav stereotype, plus chav culture is a more recent phenomenon 2bh.
>>53278978
So how else would you like to measure it? Your opinion?
>>53278941
>>53279034
I'm sorry, but the markets don't lie. It's simple supply and demand. If people don't want to live in your country, it's going to be cheap. Same reason mouldy bread is cheaper than fresh baked.
>>53278833
nice bait thread you dog cunt
>>53277936
South Staffs m8, technically a different country with its own council offices.
>>53279021
but i don't have $95,000, do you?
you gotta admit that houses like that are a bargain at that price, if you buy the kit it is only $70,000
>>53278583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M36OGCfYp3A
You can't escape reality Nigel
>>53279014
Except that picture only proves what I said.
>>53279091
Markets are not only based on desirability.
Supply and demand is another, and many more factors.
>>53279091
Actually foreign investment has a lot to do with it, as well as your geography. USA has lots of space to spare, UK does not. Regardless, I'd wager that most non Anglos would prefer to live in the States than the UK.
>>53279065
Been to a fair few. I used to like the coast myself, but then I visited actual beaches in the tropics and the med. Now UK beaches just seem like total shit (and they are).
>>53279160
What? That southern England gets as much sun as middle/southern France? I don't think that's what you were saying.
Really? I find it charming, in a way.
It's like their own special style.
England is wonderful.
>>53279160
you blind m8?
>>53278882
Wew lad. Maybe on planet chav, not earth though.
>>53279128
>made of logs
>probably doesn't have proper sewerage
>middle of nowhere
There's a reason its so cheap, m8.
>>53276129
Where does Iceland's money come from? I can't imagine Eve Online and fishing bring in the big bucks.
>>53279205
>I'd wager that most non Anglos would prefer to live in the States than the UK.
ehhhhh, I'd be more inclined to argue against that but you might be true.
>>53279219
This, I quite like it.
>>53278341
>>53278565
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>53279205
So not only is the UK more desirable to live in, but it's more desirable for investment. The market would wager that you're wrong.
secularisation
whether there is a God or not is irrelevant... without hope, you get alcoholism and fear of the feral children running in the street who could randomly stab your face at any point for looking at them wrong
>>53279262
>>made of logs
better than the average wood frame and cheaper
>>probably doesn't have proper sewerage
depends on where you put it, hooking up to sewer system cost depends on distance from road
>>middle of nowhere
that is a good thing, being ten minutes from the grocer is fine with me
Is every Brit obsessed with living in London or other big cities?
>>53279208
Yeah I'm not going to argue that tropical/med beaches don't beat ours hands down.
>>53279295
It's a lesser of two evils really. I wouldn't choose to live in either, but if I was forced to pick I'd go USA.
>>53279329
>desirable to live in
for a refugee maybe
>>53272562
You're absolutely right, Britain is a wet, miserable, boring island. The weather is literally like the OP picture for 80% of the year, I can't fucking stand it.
>>53279358
>Is every Brit obsessed with living in London or other big cities?
Not at all. 5 miles to the nearest shop where I am (pretty far for Britain) but with a car who gives a shit.
>>53279332
It's more a problem of population density imo. The issues you mention are much more of a problem in cities/suburbs than they are in rural towns.
>>53279404
Refugee, investor, worker, the super rich etc etc. Anyone really. The market is pricing out plebs though.
>>53279409
Just got back from a month in the UK. It literally rained every single day.
those hours still cost more than a similar american house kek
>>53279457
>Anyone really
except the middle class ... oh wait it just vanished
>>53272562
>I hope I dont offend anyone
when you see phrases like that, you can be sure that whatever is to follow is going to be intentionally offensive.
